Flo Mounier Defends Shift In Band's Musical Direction[views:17133][posts:43]_________________________________ [Mar 18,2008 12:29pm - zyklon ""] Drummer Flo Mounier of the Canadian metallers CRYPTOPSY has defended the shift in the band's musical direction on their forthcoming sixth full-length studio album, "The Unspoken King", after unfinished versions of several of the tracks surfaced on the Internet. A CRYPTOPSY fan named "Sam" made an online posting directed to Flo in which he stated about group's new material, "there is a difference between adding experimental touches to music and completely and utterly throwing everything you've done on past albums out the window. Now I haven't heard the full new album so I can't base a full opinion on it yet. But I sure as hell know that I'm not the only one feeling this way. The way I see it (and countless others I have spoken to about the issue) is that you've alienated your core fan base completely, which is shit, because die-hard fans like myself are just left saying 'What the fuck?' Also the new tunes I've heard sound pretty commercial, but not commercial enough to get a whole new fan base off the ground in my opinion. As a musician myself, I know what it's like to want to play something different and change it up every once in awhile. But at least change the name of the band if you guys are going to release this because listening to 'Bemoan the Martyr' [off the forthcoming album] and then putting on something great like 'Loathe', 'Shroud' or 'Phobophile', it just doesn't sound like the CRYPTOPSY I know and love, and have spent a lot of my hard-earned money getting tattoos, CDs, seeing shows, merch etc." In his response to Sam, Flo wrote, "[I'm] very disappointed to see how closed-minded some of our fans are. We started extreme metal and now we are doing it even more then before, extreme dynamically. When you listen to the full album, you will understand or not. Never has CRYPTOPSY been soo fast and agressive and at the same time generated feel in metal songs, wow. Not an achievement to you, it seems, but something extremely hard to do. If you get it or not, that's up to you, but people judge fast and I can guarantee that if you open your mind a little, you'll understand and be in awe. No change, then just vote for Bush again while you're at it. You know, [I'm] not an angry person by nature, but god, open your ears." "The Unspoken King" is CRYPTOPSY's first album to feature new vocalist Matt McGachy, who is also a member of 3 MILE SCREAM. CRYPTOPSY was forced to cancel its previously announced tour of South America in March after Mounier broke his knee cap. Flo had completed the drum tracking process for the group’s new album prior to the incident, so it did not affect the recording. The tour of South America is expected to be rescheduled later in 2008. |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 18,2008 12:31pm - sinistas ""] Hahaha, they started extreme metal? Or started "out" extreme metal? Flo needs to back away from the keyboard before he has an aneurysm. |
| _________________________________ [Mar 18,2008 12:33pm - zyklon ""] i know... |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 18,2008 12:35pm - dreadkill ""] english isn't his first language. i think he meant they started out as extreme metal. |
| _________________________________ [Mar 18,2008 12:37pm - zyklon ""] He's also doing a "rap/metal" album with a Necro wanna be |
| _________________________________ [Mar 18,2008 12:39pm - xmikex ""] Either way, what a dick. I can't imagine anyone, French Canadian or not putting out an album like that, so far removed from their original sound, and not expecting their fanbase to be pissed about it. Said it before, and I'll say it again; they knew exactly what they were doing when they wrote this album. |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 18,2008 12:40pm - archaeon ""] zyklon said:No change, then just vote for Bush again while you're at it. you're from canada douchebag. What an idiot, No one said cryptopsy should stay exactly the same. Change is good. But changing into suck is not. |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 18,2008 12:43pm - brian_dc ""] LOL @ voting for Bush again...he'll win with enough write-ins |
| _______________________________ [Mar 18,2008 12:50pm - Yeti ""] thats as stupid as Metallica's bullshit excuses for St. Blowhard. to sum up, "its our band, we want to change, so deal with it". no, fuck you, its not your band anymore. the fact that you are still a band and able to hold record deals and make good money is BECAUSE of your fans. you owe it to your fans to maintain something they have feverishly supported for years. if you want a change, drink Pepsi instead of Coke. |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 18,2008 12:54pm - archaeon ""] George Bush he's like your cousin who you knew was always fucked up, in and out of jail. Tried to fuck your mom, snorted coke off hookers asses etc Cryptopsy is like that cool uncle that you first smoked weed with and give you your first playboy. But one day late at night after a few brews you turn around and his nuts are in your face, yes his nuts. |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 18,2008 12:57pm - SacreligionNLI ""] at least we all know that this band won't exist after this album. hooray! |
| _______________________________ [Mar 18,2008 12:58pm - Yeti ""] look at In Flames. |
| __________________________________ [Mar 18,2008 1:00pm - archaeon ""] At least they went in a musical directions that appealed to SOMEONE. I don't think anyone in any fanbase will like this. |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 18,2008 1:01pm - dreadkill ""] Yeti said:look at In Flames. why didn't people get this pissed off at in flames? maybe it's because they gradually gayed up their sound, at least more gradually than cryptopsy. i don't know. |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 18,2008 1:02pm - SacreligionNLI ""] yeah....the music is pretty awful |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 18,2008 1:02pm - dreadkill ""] archaeon said:At least they went in a musical directions that appealed to SOMEONE. I don't think anyone in any fanbase will like this. yeah that's true. they went for a trend that was still somewhat on the uprise, or at least still at its peak. |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 18,2008 1:04pm - HeavensJail_nli ""] It's probably because the really terrible tracks were buried on Reroute and Soundtrack, not dumped in the public's face as their previews. In Flames' singles from Clayman on have been decently done radio metal, whereas the new Cryptopsy so far is just utter garbage. |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 18,2008 1:06pm - dreadkill ""] i haven't listened to the new cryptopsy stuff at all. i imagine it's far worse than newer in flames and not worth listening to . |
| __________________________________ [Mar 18,2008 1:08pm - brian_dc ""] oh god...yeah...just don't. If you've resisted this long just keep at it. |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 18,2008 1:08pm - SacreligionNLI ""] it sounds like a combination of coal chamber, trapt, and lazy off-time riffing |
| ________________________________ [Mar 18,2008 1:09pm - zyklon ""] archaeon said:At least they went in a musical directions that appealed to SOMEONE. I don't think anyone in any fanbase will like this. Maybe their current fan-base will be dead after this but I'm sure they won't have a problem finding new fans |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 18,2008 1:09pm - SacreligionNLI ""] and throw in some dogfight |
| _______________________________________________________ [Mar 18,2008 1:12pm - thuringwethil at the library ""] it's simple just stop wasting your time on them and don't give them your money. there's infinity other bands to listen to out there. I understand the disappointment though. |
| __________________________________ [Mar 18,2008 1:12pm - archaeon ""] zyklon said: archaeon said:At least they went in a musical directions that appealed to SOMEONE. I don't think anyone in any fanbase will like this. Maybe their current fan-base will be dead after this but I'm sure they won't have a problem finding new fans I really have to disagree dude. This music isn't appealing. A bad version of incubus mixed with pseudo Cryptopsy parts. no one wants to listen to that. |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 18,2008 1:17pm - dreadkill ""] thuringwethil%20at%20the%20library said:it's simple just stop wasting your time on them and don't give them your money. there's infinity other bands to listen to out there. I understand the disappointment though. i feel bad for people who really liked the band and considered them one of their favorites. i liked some of cryptopsy's stuff, but i was never a huge fan of theirs, so it's no big loss to me. sucks for the die hard fans though. you're right. there's so much out there to listen to. losing one band isn't a huge deal. |
| __________________________________ [Mar 18,2008 1:18pm - brian_dc ""] lol @ getting a band tattoo |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 18,2008 1:20pm - dreadkill ""] brian_dc said:lol @ getting a band tattoohahaha, yeah, i thought it was funny that the guy is upset about his cryptopsy tattoos. it's not the band's fault he was dumb enough to get a tattoo and trust that they'd never change their sound and disappoint him. |
| __________________________________ [Mar 18,2008 1:21pm - archaeon ""] brian_dc said:lol @ getting a band tattoo they changed their bat logo thing a bit. so if you have a tattoo of the old bat one you can be all like fuck dat new shit son. |
| __________________________________ [Mar 18,2008 1:23pm - brian_dc ""] or you can be all like, "yeah I'm the kind of moron who gets a band logo tattoo. |
| __________________________________ [Mar 18,2008 1:24pm - brian_dc ""] er... " |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 18,2008 1:57pm - largefreakatzero ""] I wonder if Flo accidentally broke his kneecap, or if he got gay-bashed by a former fan after hearing those horrendous leaked songs. |
| _______________________________ [Mar 18,2008 2:06pm - aril ""] meanwhile there's bands like primordial that are still releasing unbelievable albums while slightly evolving each time. |
| __________________________________ [Mar 18,2008 2:07pm - mortalis ""] aril said:meanwhile there's bands like primordial that are still releasing unbelievable albums while slightly evolving each time. while not getting NEARLY enough credit. primordial is fucking amazing. |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 18,2008 2:11pm - dreadkill ""] primordial is one of my all time favorites. they've never written a bad riff, let alone a bad song or album. |
| ____________________________________________ [Mar 18,2008 4:12pm - ConquerTheBaphomet ""] Nothing can save this band. Nothing. |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 18,2008 4:23pm - corpus_colostomy ""] what about christ? |
| _______________________________ [Mar 18,2008 4:26pm - dftg ""] hahahahaha. yeah, primordial is incredible. |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 18,2008 4:30pm - dreadkill ""] corpus_colostomy said:what about christ?hahahahahaa |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 18,2008 5:02pm - metal_church101 ""] SacreligionNLI said:and throw in some dogfight :HAHAHA: |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 18,2008 5:16pm - AUTOPSY_666 ""] brian_dc said:lol @ getting a band tattoo I have one... [img] |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 18,2008 5:18pm - AUTOPSY_666 ""] [img] |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 18,2008 5:23pm - corpus_colostomy ""] dun dun DUN! |
| __________________________________ [Mar 18,2008 5:54pm - archaeon ""] oh then it MUST be cool. |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 18,2008 6:35pm - AUTOPSY_666 ""] Must be. |