Christian metal/hardcore[views:7191][posts:72]______________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 6:18pm - ToBeWithout ""] http://www.myspace.com/christianmetalfellowship Say what you want about the bands listed on this page believe in and sing about, some of them are fucking awesome. I guess it's rational to say that if you are not a dedicated Satanist then you are a hypocrite to listen to bands like Gorgoroth, Immortal, or Dissection (among MANY others) for not knocking what they believe in/sing about. |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 6:28pm - corpus_colostomy ""] hey great! well said..:satancross: |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 6:29pm - AUTOPSY_666 ""] Christian Metal = KKK Rap |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 6:31pm - ToBeWithout ""] I guess you gotta be scene enough to play it and like it. Fuck, even you're in your 30s and you still don't dress it (i.e. dress like your in highschool still), you ain't metal enough to truly be Metal. |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 6:33pm - AUTOPSY_666 ""] Fashion is so very important. |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 6:39pm - dreadkill ""] this thread is raviolis |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 6:47pm - corpus_colostomy ""] tobewouthout, your grammar in the initial thread is appalling. how can we take you christians seriously? if you have something to say, try your best to use your "big people" words. grammar is king in this godless and empty world. it's a grim and withering reality... |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 6:56pm - ToBeWithout ""] corpus_colostomy said:tobewouthout, your grammar in the initial thread is appalling. how can we take you christians seriously? if you have something to say, try your best to use your "big people" words. grammar is king in this godless and empty world. it's a grim and withering reality... I can assure you that your point will be taken to heart considering the lesson I received by your perfect grammar. Is your shift key broken? I'm just curious you fucking douche bag. |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 7:01pm - brandon... ""] You know god would be pissed off if he saw all the swears on this post. Im just saying. |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 7:02pm - ToBeWithout ""] How can I take you seriously? Your grammar is appalling. |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 7:04pm - corpus_colostomy ""] hast thou ever heard of ee cummings my troglodyte friend? gotta know the rules... to break them properly. |
| ____________________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 7:06pm - ConquerTheBaphomet ""] ToBeWithout said:http://www.myspace.com/christianmetalfellowship Say what you want about the bands listed on this page believe in and sing about, some of them are fucking awesome. I guess it's rational to say that if you are not a dedicated Satanist then you are a hypocrite to listen to bands like Gorgoroth, Immortal, or Dissection (among MANY others) for not knocking what they believe in/sing about. If you're a Christian, let me tell you something, brother. You don't need to act like everyone else to stick up for something. I am guilty of this sometimes, but you don't need to attack people to make a point. You don't owe any of these people anything and there's absolutely no point in having such an attitude and condescending tone in your first post, especially on such a hostile board. But yes, a lot of those bands deserve more attention but you might want to make your point less hostile. |
| ____________________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 7:06pm - ConquerTheBaphomet ""] Also, ToBeWithout, stop cussing. You're bad at it. |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 7:08pm - corpus_colostomy ""] a detect a false dangling participle..let me get my gerund stick. |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 7:11pm - ToBeWithout ""] ConquerTheBaphomet said: ToBeWithout said:http://www.myspace.com/christianmetalfellowship Say what you want about the bands listed on this page believe in and sing about, some of them are fucking awesome. I guess it's rational to say that if you are not a dedicated Satanist then you are a hypocrite to listen to bands like Gorgoroth, Immortal, or Dissection (among MANY others) for not knocking what they believe in/sing about. You don't need to act like everyone else to stick up for something. I am guilty of this sometimes, but you don't need to attack people to make a point. You don't owe any of these people anything and there's absolutely no point in having such an attitude and condescending tone in your first post, especially on such a hostile board. Your absolutely right; point taken. I just assumed that hostile/condescending tones are the only way to make a point around here. Also, then again, I assumed that a hostile approach was the only way to make this kind of a point around here. |
| __________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 7:14pm - archaeon ""] Immortal is satanic? ok. HAY IM IGNORANT |
| _____________________________ [Mar 31,2008 7:15pm - SW ""] ConquerTheBaphomet said: ToBeWithout said:http://www.myspace.com/christianmetalfellowship Say what you want about the bands listed on this page believe in and sing about, some of them are fucking awesome. I guess it's rational to say that if you are not a dedicated Satanist then you are a hypocrite to listen to bands like Gorgoroth, Immortal, or Dissection (among MANY others) for not knocking what they believe in/sing about. If you're a Christian, let me tell you something, brother. You don't need to act like everyone else to stick up for something. I am guilty of this sometimes, but you don't need to attack people to make a point. You don't owe any of these people anything and there's absolutely no point in having such an attitude and condescending tone in your first post, especially on such a hostile board. But yes, a lot of those bands deserve more attention but you might want to make your point less hostile. If you're a real christian, you shouldn't celebrate Easter and Christmas because they are really pagan holidays. I keep my mouth shut with you, but you brother have a log in your eye and you better think twice before you try to remove anymore twigs from others. |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 7:19pm - ToBeWithout ""] archaeon said:Immortal is satanic? ok. HAY IM IGNORANT Slowly crossing as red rivers runs below Forever passing where the darkness lies unknown Where soulwinds burns my eyes Where shadows of lost life hides Enter the centres of darkness Where all evil dwells Demons present in flames Oath of black souls found Sacrifices as old as the earth We cut the living flesh Circles of the deepest black throned A promise of the darkest blood found Unholy forces of evil Unholy forces of hell An mayhemic silence floats We await our signs of death our circles gathered Ceremonial powers belongs to us A goat baptised in fire We dance the circle dance the thorns Awaiting the sign of the horns A thousand black clouds storms Blasphemous Northern rites Mysticism touched Pentagrams burning Into the centres of the darkness Where all evil dwells Demons present in flames Oath of black souls found The unholy forces of evil Server upon our diabolical souls Cults of death bathed in slaught As the devils candles burns Into the dark skies Floating with the soulwinds of the pentagram To the deathlights where the North star awaits. HAY I'M ONLY 18 AND STARTED LISTENING TO IMMORTAL WHEN THEY CAME OUT WITH SONS OF NORTHERN DARKESS. |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 7:24pm - SlyATNFAC ""] I will never understand Christian metal... ever... |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 7:25pm - corpus_colostomy ""] >> Your absolutely right; point taken. I just assumed that hostile/condescending tones are the only way to make a point around here. Also, then again, I assumed that a hostile approach was the only way to make this kind of a point around here. >> the only way to get your point across to to kill and tame the heathens... |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 7:27pm - corpus_colostomy ""] pardon the pun, but am i playing devil's advocate here or do i really believe in this crap? and to what of eschatology...who will stand by HIS right hand? back to da pipe... |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 7:30pm - corpus_colostomy ""] i used to be christian until this morning when i dwnloaded IPSISSIMUS. music is so pervasive. |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 7:33pm - yah-whey ""] children, children, children... |
| __________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 7:34pm - Dankill ""] Much like Satanic bands, I can give a crap less about what they sing about. If they rock, they rock. I'll have as much chance becoming a Jesus freak listening to old Extol as I do burning goat blood for teh Satanz! after listening to Dissection. |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 7:43pm - ArrowHeadNLI ""] SW said: If you're a real christian, you shouldn't celebrate Easter and Christmas because they are really pagan holidays. I keep my mouth shut with you, but you brother have a log in your eye and you better think twice before you try to remove anymore twigs from others. Horribly incorrect. The dates and rituals are pagan. The HOLIDAYS are Christian. And as smart as you may feel, most Christians are already quite aware that christmas trees and bunny rabbits have little to do with Christ. "real" Christians celebrate Christ. Things like his birth, life, death and resurrection. It just took incorporating all of us other heathen's pagan rituals to convert over all the leftovers that didn't know shit about Christ. It's a lot easier to convert a mass of people to a new religion if they know they can still dress up like a bunny and stick eggs up their asses. That said, fuck christ. He came once, and failed miserable. He'll come again and kill us all. Exactly where is the part where I'm supposed to love this guy? |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 7:43pm - ancient master ""] i listen to some NSBM, does that make me a nazi? |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 7:45pm - the_reverend ""] no, but your polished army boot, shaved head, flack jacket and pagan songs about killing jews might just be a step in the right direction. |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 7:48pm - ancient master ""] ha |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 7:49pm - dreadkill ""] corpus_colostomy said:hast thou ever heard of ee cummings my troglodyte friend? gotta know the rules... to break them properly.that post was fucking great. |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 7:52pm - dreadkill ""] ArrowHeadNLI said: SW said:It's a lot easier to convert a mass of people to a new religion if they know they can still dress up like a bunny and stick eggs up their asses. like richard gere |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 7:53pm - dreadkill ""] ConquerTheBaphomet said:let me tell you something, brother. preach on, reverend hulkamaniac. |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 7:53pm - dreadkill ""] spread the big boot of god throughout the land. |
| __________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 7:54pm - archaeon ""] ToBeWithout said: archaeon said:Immortal is satanic? ok. HAY IM IGNORANT Slowly crossing as red rivers runs below Forever passing where the darkness lies unknown Where soulwinds burns my eyes Where shadows of lost life hides Enter the centres of darkness Where all evil dwells Demons present in flames Oath of black souls found Sacrifices as old as the earth We cut the living flesh Circles of the deepest black throned A promise of the darkest blood found Unholy forces of evil Unholy forces of hell An mayhemic silence floats We await our signs of death our circles gathered Ceremonial powers belongs to us A goat baptised in fire We dance the circle dance the thorns Awaiting the sign of the horns A thousand black clouds storms Blasphemous Northern rites Mysticism touched Pentagrams burning Into the centres of the darkness Where all evil dwells Demons present in flames Oath of black souls found The unholy forces of evil Server upon our diabolical souls Cults of death bathed in slaught As the devils candles burns Into the dark skies Floating with the soulwinds of the pentagram To the deathlights where the North star awaits. HAY I'M ONLY 18 AND STARTED LISTENING TO IMMORTAL WHEN THEY CAME OUT WITH SONS OF NORTHERN DARKESS. ATTN: FAYGIT I'm 17. omg theres one song where they mention pentagramzz so they must be devil worshiperz. Just because you singz about satanicness doesn't mean you're satanic. not like that Christian bull. you could have pick more evil bands. "Evil will always triumph, because good is dumb" -Dark Helmet |
| ____________________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 7:59pm - ConquerTheBaphomet ""] That Dark Helmet quote is on a Leukorrhea album. Also, I love Immortal. They are immensely entertaining. |
| ____________________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 8:01pm - ConquerTheBaphomet ""] ArrowHeadNLI said: That said, fuck christ. He came once, and failed miserable. He'll come again and kill us all. Exactly where is the part where I'm supposed to love this guy? How do you figure he failed? Because he died? That was the point, my friend. |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 8:19pm - ArrowHeadNLI ""] ConquerTheBaphomet said: How do you figure he failed? Because he died? That was the point, my friend. Do you even LOOK at the people you're surrounded by? Salvation is lost on humanity. Read your book. The point ends with him coming back to slay the vast majority of us in horrible and very permanent ways. And for good reason. |
| ____________________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 8:23pm - ConquerTheBaphomet ""] I think you should read and find out for yourself. Your conclusions are false. |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 8:24pm - dreadkill ""] your god is false. nana-nana-boo-boo! oh snap! |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 8:24pm - corpus_colostomy ""] ESCHATOLOGY! |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 8:24pm - dreadkill ""] sorry, just felt like being a retard |
| __________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 8:27pm - archaeon ""] ConquerTheBaphomet said:I think you should read and find out for yourself. Your conclusions are false. Yes lets read a mistranslated and edited book and base our entire lives around it. |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 8:40pm - ToBeWihout ""] archaeon said: ToBeWithout said: archaeon said:Immortal is satanic? ok. HAY IM IGNORANT Slowly crossing as red rivers runs below Forever passing where the darkness lies unknown Where soulwinds burns my eyes Where shadows of lost life hides Enter the centres of darkness Where all evil dwells Demons present in flames Oath of black souls found Sacrifices as old as the earth We cut the living flesh Circles of the deepest black throned A promise of the darkest blood found Unholy forces of evil Unholy forces of hell An mayhemic silence floats We await our signs of death our circles gathered Ceremonial powers belongs to us A goat baptised in fire We dance the circle dance the thorns Awaiting the sign of the horns A thousand black clouds storms Blasphemous Northern rites Mysticism touched Pentagrams burning Into the centres of the darkness Where all evil dwells Demons present in flames Oath of black souls found The unholy forces of evil Server upon our diabolical souls Cults of death bathed in slaught As the devils candles burns Into the dark skies Floating with the soulwinds of the pentagram To the deathlights where the North star awaits. HAY I'M ONLY 18 AND STARTED LISTENING TO IMMORTAL WHEN THEY CAME OUT WITH SONS OF NORTHERN DARKESS. ATTN: FAYGIT I'm 17. omg theres one song where they mention pentagramzz so they must be devil worshiperz. Just because you singz about satanicness doesn't mean you're satanic. not like that Christian bull. you could have pick more evil bands. "Evil will always triumph, because good is dumb" -Dark Helmet 17, even worse. You commented on the ideology of a band that came out when you were 2. I could have picked more evil bands you say? Wouldn't you think that I said: "..Immortal...(among MANY others)..." For a reason? Tomorrow on your school bus ride pay extra attention to you reading comprehension section of your english book. |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 8:40pm - s.axl.beckett ""] Being a satanic band implies that you believe in christian mythology in the first place, so you already lose by trying to be seriously satanic. Oh yeah and all religion is fags dood. |
| __________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 8:42pm - archaeon ""] Embarrassing that a 17 year old has better musical tastes than you. |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 8:43pm - corpus_colostomy ""] s.axl.beckett said:Being a satanic band implies that you believe in christian mythology in the first place, so you already lose by trying to be seriously satanic. Oh yeah and all religion is fags dood. THREAD DONE. +1 |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 8:44pm - ancient master ""] religion....is poison- chairman mao lets all become maoists |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 8:45pm - corpus_colostomy ""] durh...opiate of da masses? |
| __________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 8:46pm - archaeon ""] da lord praize em |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 8:47pm - ArrowHeadNLI ""] ConquerTheBaphomet said:I think you should read and find out for yourself. Your conclusions are false. I studied theology, mostly Judeo-Christian, for seven consecutive years while attending a christian school. When you were being squirted out of your mother, I was meeting cardinals and studying the bible. In addition I've taken a keen interest in the book of revelations for the last 15 years. As you can see, I DID read. I know your book and faith better than you do yourself. If you'd like to go point for point with me feel free, I'm perfectly ready to. All this, and I'm a self appointed LaVey satanist. And just for the record, I jumped in this thread to DEFEND you silly little Christ-suckers. |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 8:50pm - ArrowHeadNLI ""] s.axl.beckett said:Being a satanic band implies that you believe in christian mythology in the first place Actually satanists by definition oppose christian mythology, and they do NOT believe in it. I think you are confusing Satanism (opposition or enemy to the Christian churches) with pagan devil worship. Take a look, it's in a book, a reading rainbow.... |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 8:50pm - corpus_colostomy ""] irony is over played these days BUT that last move was awesome...you know about you defending the christian(s) |
| ________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 9:00pm - zyklon ""] SlyATNFAC said:I will never understand Christian metal... ever... Christian or Satanic= fanatic, stupid, ignorant fucks |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 9:05pm - ancient master ""] E-V-I-L E and Ice-T are on a jack move Layin down the dope groove, smokin those who disapprove Wreckin the deck, you'll regret if you cross punk Rollin like a Mack truck, waxin those who talk junk Violent your end, I got your face in my crosshairs Wanna see your dome bust sucker cause I don't care Nuttin bout you, your crew, because you talk shit I'm the Lethal Weapon boy, ridin the apocalypse If you're in my way, then lay beneath the ground soon Violence is my business fool, the microphone of doom Mission that's to cure all punks as I bust caps Peelin your back, my ammunition hollow-point raps You try to run, that makes it even more fun I just cold lamp and vamp you with the shotgun Cops try to flex.. but guns they'll never find.. My Lethal Weapon's my mind! [Chorus: Rakim, "Microphone Fiend"] "A lethal weapon.. A lethal weapon.. A lethal weapon.. An assassinator, if the people ain't steppin" You hit the deck, as rap busts from my lips You think I'm finished - I load another clip Look in my face, I crack an evil grin Lyrics bring death from the microphone Mac-10 Sucker MC's, you ain't down with the Syndicate Try to kick game, but end up talkin weak shit, yo You're weak, you're wack, you need to quit you lil punk bitch Go and freak your mother, go dig a damn ditch Get out my face, I'm tired of the press too You write about me, I write about you You think I'm violent, but listen and you will find.. My Lethal Weapon's my mind! Up against the wall - it's Valentine's Day The Massacre's about due for a replay I'm about to explode - like a hand grenade Evil E do damage on the crossfade {*Evil E scratches*} Cuts like a battleaxe You try to bite, get iced, my raps are boobytraps Claim of mine, designed by the Ice himself You beg for mercy as you read the hand you're dealt Cause there's no let up, you walked into a set up It's suckin you down and now you can't get up Why because you froze the moment we met up And I never run punk, I go head up I ain't no fool and new jack poppin fake rap I rap from the heart and soul, where only facts are kept Many rappers sell-out pop and other MC's slept I ain't in no playin mood, so nigga watch your step Cause if you cross the boss, you go to bed quick Know my situation boy, don't diss the Syndicate cause when we chose to move, you're gone and no remains they'll find.. My Lethal Weapon's my mind! More bodies than John Gotti, the Lethal Weapon is slaying Just open any book, that's ammo to the brain What really matters, is how well is your weapon trained Some would say genius, while others would say insane The Weapon power has been witnessed upon my page From Martin Luther's "dream", to Hitler's psycho rage What's more powerful - the brain or a twelve gauge? The words I speak have scared many people to this stage But promote violence, I really have to disagree It's entertainment, like "Terminator" on TV But some'll never see, you're stupid ignorant and blind The Lethal Weapon's the mind! The mind.. Think! The mind.. YouknowhatI'msayin? I got my jammy with me at all times, youknowhatI'msayin? They can't take this one thing away from me that's got more power, than any gun in the world, youknowhatI'msayin? I'm talkin bout brain power homeboy They can't mess with me cause I'm too smart for them out there youknowhatI'msayin? Fully strapped, always packed Go to the library and get some more ammo, youknowhatI'msayin? |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 9:06pm - dreadkill ""] ArrowHeadNLI said: Take a look, it's in a book, a reading rainbow.... |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 9:07pm - dreadkill ""] i meant to post "hahahahahahha" when i quoted that because i thought it was funny |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 9:15pm - dreadkill ""] zyklon said: SlyATNFAC said:I will never understand Christian metal... ever... Christian or Satanic= fanatic, stupid, ignorant fucks like i said in another thread, i don't care if the band is singing about how much they hate me personally, if i like the way it sounds, that's what matters most. i despise christianity, but i've liked stuff by christian bands over the years. as long as it isn't over the top preachy, i don't really have a problem. |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 9:19pm - ancient master ""] dreadkill said: zyklon said: SlyATNFAC said:I will never understand Christian metal... ever... Christian or Satanic= fanatic, stupid, ignorant fucks like i said in another thread, i don't care if the band is singing about how much they hate me personally, if i like the way it sounds, that's what matters most. i despise christianity, but i've liked stuff by christian bands over the years. as long as it isn't over the top preachy, i don't really have a problem. read: CREED |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 9:22pm - dreadkill ""] creed was the worst. that drunkard singer of theirs thought he was jesus. |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 10:07pm - Murph nli ""] ConquerTheBaphomet said: ArrowHeadNLI said: That said, fuck christ. He came once, and failed miserable. He'll come again and kill us all. Exactly where is the part where I'm supposed to love this guy? How do you figure he failed? Because he died? That was the point, my friend. Acually, the new "Number One" most popular religion on Earth would disagree wth you. ...and him dying was not the point. Messianic Judaism was pretty much dead set against their savior doing anything but slaughtering their oppressors and creating a new socio/political/religious state. Seriously man, I know you're a "Christian" but you're basing all this shit off of a handful of documents that were handpicked for their topical "cohesion." It is impossible, IMPOSSIBLE to escape history. The New Testament is much more in tune with the Mystery religions of Europe and the Middle East predating and contemporary to "Jesus." Hence "New" in New Testament, a lingual attempt at furthering itself from Judaism, with which (other than the mere mention of rtual observances) it has little in common. Paul, the guy whose psychobabble spawned your Church, as well as all other offshoots of Pauline Christianity (which is everything but a few nomadic Johanite sects) didn't even know "Jesus." *By the way, I hope our bands play a show in the near future, I do like your stuff. |
| ______________________________ [Mar 31,2008 10:16pm - SW ""] ArrowHeadNLI said: SW said: If you're a real christian, you shouldn't celebrate Easter and Christmas because they are really pagan holidays. I keep my mouth shut with you, but you brother have a log in your eye and you better think twice before you try to remove anymore twigs from others. Horribly incorrect. The dates and rituals are pagan. The HOLIDAYS are Christian. And as smart as you may feel, most Christians are already quite aware that christmas trees and bunny rabbits have little to do with Christ. "real" Christians celebrate Christ. Things like his birth, life, death and resurrection. It just took incorporating all of us other heathen's pagan rituals to convert over all the leftovers that didn't know shit about Christ. It's a lot easier to convert a mass of people to a new religion if they know they can still dress up like a bunny and stick eggs up their asses. That said, fuck christ. He came once, and failed miserable. He'll come again and kill us all. Exactly where is the part where I'm supposed to love this guy? haha you have no idea who you are talking to. I am well aware that the majority of people who call themselves "christians" fully believe they are celebrating Jesus' birth, death, and resurrection. I know the mass media marketing technique of calling these holidays christian to sell mass quantities of food and junk. Unfortunately just because these people believe that these are christian holidays does not mean you can put a phallic symbol(tree) in your living room and think God will be happy about it. It's funny you said you were studying theology and meeting cardinals, you should know that the Catholic Church did the same thing. Emperor Constantine was killing christians and it wasn't working because people saw that christians believed so strongly that they were willing to die for their beliefs and so even more sprang up. So to control the christians while still pleasing the pagans, Constantine(who was STILL a pagan at the time) professed to be a christian, created the Catholic Church and became the first pope. They gave all the pagan statues and symbols christian names(Semiramis and Tammuz became Mary and Jesus and so on) The Catholic Church was never christian. These holidays are not christian. If you are Catholic or celebrate these holidays you are not a true christian. I know this post is long but screw it, one more thing ArrowHead. LaVey satanist huh? Anton Lavey's satanism is the hollywood version at best. It is a joke and was only created to draw people in who rejected religion into the real deal "pagan devil worship". If the only reason you use the word Satan is for a symbol of opposition to christian churches, why not call your self something else? Why use the word Satanist if you don't believe in Satan? It doesn't make sense. You can tell me all you want about it just means "the adversary" and blah blah, seriously just call yourself something else if you want NOTHING to do with christianity. Sorry this was long but you need to see I'm not just some jackass spouting off some random stuff I watched on youtube or something. I'll go point for point with you any day of the week. |
| ___________________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 10:19pm - thegreatspaldino ""] SLAY THE WICKEEEEeEEeeEeEeEeEeEeEeEeD!!!!! *metal hand* |
| _________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 10:24pm - zyklon ""] dreadkill said: zyklon said: SlyATNFAC said:I will never understand Christian metal... ever... Christian or Satanic= fanatic, stupid, ignorant fucks like i said in another thread, i don't care if the band is singing about how much they hate me personally, if i like the way it sounds, that's what matters most. i despise christianity, but i've liked stuff by christian bands over the years. as long as it isn't over the top preachy, i don't really have a problem. Mortification is a good example of that |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 10:33pm - ArrowHeadNLI ""] SW said:If the only reason you use the word Satan is for a symbol of opposition to christian churches, why not call your self something else? Because as much as you don't want to hear it, the word means exactly that: opponent. Satan=opponent, not Lucifer. As for your other statements, you've re-worded and misinterpreted everything I already said. What's your point? As already stated, when the romans decided to force Christianity on the nations they were rapidly absorbing, they eased the transition by keeping significant dates and religion. It wasn't about re-naming anything. It was simply a matter of transition. The celebration of the birth of Christ didn't replace the winter solstice celebration, it was merely moved to share the same date. Druidic tree lighting ceremony? Not problem, that just happens to be the way we celebrate christmas around here! For you to have stated that celebrating Easter or Christmas is un-christian is ignorant. You don't need a tree to celebrate x-mas. You don't need eggs and bunnies to celebrate Easter. You overstate your stance far too much, just in hopes of showing off some historic tidbit that you most likely DID get off the interweb or youtube. Me, I learned everything I know about faith from Levar Burton. And for the record, I was referencing my upbringing. I in no way would brag about meeting that childtouching douchfaggot O'Connor, no matter how long ago it was. |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 10:39pm - brian_dc ""] Hey, look! It's a bunch of words on the internet about religion. I think I'm gonna...um...do something else. |
| ______________________________ [Mar 31,2008 11:01pm - SW ""] Ironically, all I have to say is watch this video on youtube of an ex-satanist. You will most likely think it is absolute garbage, but hey maybe you will open your mind to it. Other than that, I don't need to show you a bibliography of my research and I only explained so much because I thought you might see I'm not pulling stuff out of my ass. Instead you called me ignorant, classic. No worry because I don't have discussions with people like you who never consider the opposing point, no matter how valid. Only what boosts your ego and makes you look smart. http://youtube.com/watch?v=qmmr4xmZ3qs&feature=related |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 11:04pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] ArrowHeadNLI said: SW said:If the only reason you use the word Satan is for a symbol of opposition to christian churches, why not call your self something else? Because as much as you don't want to hear it, the word means exactly that: opponent. Satan=opponent, not Lucifer. As for your other statements, you've re-worded and misinterpreted everything I already said. What's your point? As already stated, when the romans decided to force Christianity on the nations they were rapidly absorbing, they eased the transition by keeping significant dates and religion. It wasn't about re-naming anything. It was simply a matter of transition. The celebration of the birth of Christ didn't replace the winter solstice celebration, it was merely moved to share the same date. Druidic tree lighting ceremony? Not problem, that just happens to be the way we celebrate christmas around here! For you to have stated that celebrating Easter or Christmas is un-christian is ignorant. You don't need a tree to celebrate x-mas. You don't need eggs and bunnies to celebrate Easter. You overstate your stance far too much, just in hopes of showing off some historic tidbit that you most likely DID get off the interweb or youtube. Me, I learned everything I know about faith from Levar Burton. And for the record, I was referencing my upbringing. I in no way would brag about meeting that childtouching douchfaggot O'Connor, no matter how long ago it was. [/win for use of "douchefaggot" in reference to a Catholic cleric] |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 11:15pm - ArrowHeadNLI ""] SW said:I don't have discussions with people like you who never consider the opposing point Then what are you doing? And sadly, our points aren't really opposite at all. Yours is just less refined. Are you really getting all sandy that I'm better than you? These threads are always a great time. Discussing theology with metalheads is much like trying to teach date rape techniques to a retarded kid. You can still get the job done, but you lose a lot of the fine details in the process. |
| ___________________________________________ [Mar 31,2008 11:21pm - thegreatspaldino ""] TO HELL WITH THE DEVIL!!!!!! |
| ________________________________________ [Apr 1,2008 12:11am - This_Is_Heresy ""] ArrowHeadNLI said: Are you really getting all sandy that I'm better than you? These threads are always a great time. Discussing theology with metalheads is much like trying to teach date rape techniques to a retarded kid. You can still get the job done, but you lose a lot of the fine details in the process. The was the single best and most accurate way of putting that feasibly possible. Excellent. :yoda: |
| __________________________________________ [Apr 1,2008 12:13am - thegreatspaldino ""] SOOOOOOOOOOOOOLDIERS.... SOOOOOooooooOoooooooooooLDIERS!... |
| __________________________________ [Apr 1,2008 12:25am - Samantha ""] LOL @ this banner on their myspace page: [img] |
| _________________________________ [Apr 1,2008 12:30am - sxealex ""] i can see that happening... thats the sad/funny part religion is a scam |
| ______________________________________ [Apr 1,2008 1:01am - timtirpation ""] These threads are always a great time. Discussing theology with metalheads is much like trying to teach date rape techniques to a retarded kid. You can still get the job done, but you lose a lot of the fine details in the process.>> Hilarious. |