question for those of you educated in the US of A[views:4354][posts:28]__________________________________ [Jan 27,2004 8:37pm - succubus ""] There is a book called "Lies My Teacher Told Me". One of the chapters writes about how American History does not teach its high school students suffering and the concepts of it. They do not see images of suffering and teachers are taught to not teach it. your experiences, thoughts, opinions? |
| _______________________________________ [Jan 27,2004 8:54pm - DeOdiumMortis ""] Suffering suffering or suffering as in sufferage ala voting? |
| ________________________________ [Jan 27,2004 9:39pm - XmikeX ""] unlikely every other book we read in high school was some dumbass book about slavery, on top of that Schindler's list was practically considered as a primary source on the holocaust. |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 27,2004 9:42pm - the_reverend ""] "history is written by the victors" |
| ___________________________________ [Jan 27,2004 10:25pm - succubus ""] interesting, thanks xmikex |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 27,2004 10:27pm - MyDeadDoll ""] i was taught that there's no such thing as truth in history. history books are influenced by the writers and editors, so if there's something they don't want you to know, they omit it. and if there's something they find more interesting, you hear more about it. but, either way, what's written is in the opinions of the books writers. |
| _______________________________ [Jan 28,2004 12:14am - Brad ""] succubus said:There is a book called "Lies My Teacher Told Me". i have that book good read |
| _______________________________ [Jan 28,2004 8:40am - davyp ""] there is truth in history, and with out it we would not be posting on this web..... It all in how you go about learning.. do you listen in grade school or high school.... yes you did, you had too or you would pass the test... that history is completely sub standard.... go to the book store or library and check out how many real history book are out there.... yes book are words and opinions from humans..... so what some of the writers out there are writing actual history... it all in the eye of the beholder anyway.... there are still people who belive that we never landed on the moon, or that the Holocaust never happened.... We need to rethink the way we teach every one in the school systems,,,,, Exspecialy History... How many people know that the battle of Bunker Hill was actually faught on neighboring Breeds Hill... or that Nepolien was 6'4"... They teach us the basics, false a lot of the times but its up to us as adults to learn the real truths about ourselves and our history..... sorry about the tangent... |
| ________________________________ [Jan 28,2004 9:29am - retzam ""] davyp said:there is truth in history, and with out it we would not be posting on this web..... It all in how you go about learning.. do you listen in grade school or high school.... yes you did, you had too or you would pass the test... that history is completely sub standard.... go to the book store or library and check out how many real history book are out there.... yes book are words and opinions from humans..... so what some of the writers out there are writing actual history... it all in the eye of the beholder anyway.... there are still people who belive that we never landed on the moon, or that the Holocaust never happened.... We need to rethink the way we teach every one in the school systems,,,,, Exspecialy History... How many people know that the battle of Bunker Hill was actually faught on neighboring Breeds Hill... or that Nepolien was 6'4"... They teach us the basics, false a lot of the times but its up to us as adults to learn the real truths about ourselves and our history..... sorry about the tangent... Hey, why so many elipses?? Anyway, Napolean was actually 6'4"? How did people get the idea that he was so short?? |
| ________________________________ [Jan 28,2004 10:00am - davyp ""] It'show the british portrayed him in cartoons, as a short man trying to make yup for his "short" commings. Penis envy type of thing. about the ellipses. I work in an insurance company and thats how i stop a statement, and go on to the next statement. its pointless i know but thats how its done here and i have brought it over to the real world:doublehorns: |
| ________________________________________ [Jan 28,2004 10:36am - Joe/NotCommon ""] I read lots and lots of history. It's all I care about, that and forcing my tastes on the rest of the world |
| ________________________________ [Jan 28,2004 10:41am - davyp ""] then your well informed.. good for you..... no go and force your tastes on the world and be merry. are you a very oppinionated person... i haven't noticed |
| _________________________________ [Jan 28,2004 10:44am - retzam ""] davyp said:It'show the british portrayed him in cartoons, as a short man trying to make yup for his "short" commings. Penis envy type of thing. about the ellipses. I work in an insurance company and thats how i stop a statement, and go on to the next statement. its pointless i know but thats how its done here and i have brought it over to the real world:doublehorns: Hey thanks a lot for the fun fact. One more question. Do said cartoons go back to the time of Napoleon's reign, or are they realitively modern? Also, about the elipses, why do insurance companies do this? Also, you might want to consider only using 4 after every statement, since that is the correct way to use elipses (3 if you are not necessarily ending your sentence). I know this seems pointless, but since you are a professional, people might think better of you. Or you could not take advice from someone who is still in highschool, which might be the better option.:spineyes: |
| ________________________________________ [Jan 28,2004 10:49am - Joe/NotCommon ""] retzam, you have not posted your picture in that other thread yet. |
| _________________________________ [Jan 28,2004 10:57am - retzam ""] Joe/NotCommon said:retzam, you have not posted your picture in that other thread yet. I don't have anyway of getting a picture of me on the computer yet. No digital camera, no web cam. The best I can do is get pictures with Opeth at the show, develop them in jpg format, make some freewebs webpage to host them, then I can post them. So, yeah, that is what I will do. They will be up sometime in March, but you guys can find me outside waiting for Opeth to come out after the show if you really want to know what I look like (don't be alarmed at my appearance, for I am a teenage mutant ninja turtle). |
| ________________________________________ [Jan 28,2004 11:00am - Joe/NotCommon ""] haha, i can host your picture so it wont exceed bandwidth. TMNTs rule |
| ________________________________ [Jan 28,2004 11:02am - davyp ""] Hey thanks a lot for the fun fact. One more question. Do said cartoons go back to the time of Napoleon's reign, or are they realitively modern? Also, about the elipses, why do insurance companies do this? Also, you might want to consider only using 4 after every statement, since that is the correct way to use elipses (3 if you are not necessarily ending your sentence). I know this seems pointless, but since you are a professional, people might think better of you. Or you could not take advice from someone who is still in highschool, which might be the better option.:spineyes:>> Political cartoon are as old as politics and the printing press to answer your question yes. um about the stupid .... thing i do it cause im nutz and like to hit the period button over and over again. I can take advice from a minor no prob. there is no set way here its the way i do it and people get what i am doing. and who cares how many periods i put after a statement. I am not professional. in no means am i profesional. I have a professonal job, but i am not.... I am the anti- insurance claims adjuster. I keep it real negative around here. also i dont care what people think about me..... who cares. nuff said. |
| ________________________________________ [Jan 28,2004 12:22pm - Joe/NotCommon ""] i take advice from Brian Morse only |
| _________________________________ [Jan 28,2004 12:22pm - retzam ""] davyp said: retzam said:Hey thanks a lot for the fun fact. One more question. Do said cartoons go back to the time of Napoleon's reign, or are they realitively modern? Also, about the elipses, why do insurance companies do this? Also, you might want to consider only using 4 after every statement, since that is the correct way to use elipses (3 if you are not necessarily ending your sentence). I know this seems pointless, but since you are a professional, people might think better of you. Or you could not take advice from someone who is still in highschool, which might be the better option.:spineyes: davyp said:Political cartoon are as old as politics and the printing press to answer your question yes. um about the stupid .... thing i do it cause im nutz and like to hit the period button over and over again. I can take advice from a minor no prob. there is no set way here its the way i do it and people get what i am doing. and who cares how many periods i put after a statement. I am not professional. in no means am i profesional. I have a professonal job, but i am not.... I am the anti- insurance claims adjuster. I keep it real negative around here. also i dont care what people think about me..... who cares. nuff said. Yeah, I knew political cartoons were around since then. I was asking if these particular ones were printed back then. |
| ________________________________ [Jan 28,2004 12:32pm - davyp ""] yes, they were |
| ________________________________ [Jan 28,2004 1:43pm - retzam ""] davyp said:yes, they were Oh, cool. Are they published anywhere? |
| _______________________________________ [Jan 28,2004 1:49pm - Joe/NotCommon ""] ask Brian Morse, he would know for sure. |
| _______________________________________ [Jan 28,2004 10:55pm - the_reverend ""] there's cartoons on that walls of a cave from 15K years ago. |
| ________________________________________ [Jan 28,2004 11:08pm - DeOdiumMortis ""] Did Jim draw them? |
| _______________________________________ [Jan 28,2004 11:46pm - the_reverend ""] no, actually, his dad did. |
| ________________________________________ [Jan 28,2004 11:47pm - DeOdiumMortis ""] Wow, that is old. . . |
| _______________________________________ [Jan 28,2004 11:52pm - the_reverend ""] completely. like pre-jerassic and shizzle |
| _______________________________________ [Jan 28,2004 11:53pm - the_reverend ""] actually, a little known fact: "if jims dad had his way in 15011BC we wouldn't have the word shizzle right now" |
| ________________________________________ [Jan 29,2004 12:02am - DeOdiumMortis ""] Nah, fo rizzle? You mizzlin' wit me. |