European Death Metal vs American Death Metal[views:8291][posts:54]__________________________________________ [Apr 30,2008 8:43am - corpus_colostomy ""] Who in your opinion has the best representation of current death metal right now? Europe or the States? (im not asking black metal, folk, pagan, lute, or whetever the fuck else. pretty much only interested in the top 3% of the sick DM bands from both countries) |
| _________________________________ [Apr 30,2008 8:55am - Martins ""] I'd say it's pretty even. We have most of the brutal stuff. They have most of the tech stuff. But I guess we have Florida and California, so I don't really know. |
| __________________________________________ [Apr 30,2008 9:01am - corpus_colostomy ""] yeah i dunno about the brutal thing, it seems that way at first, but i mean they have despondency, defeated sanity, beheaded...those bands alone blow alot of so called brutal american bands out of the water imo. |
| __________________________________________ [Apr 30,2008 9:04am - corpus_colostomy ""] fuck, inveracity and suffocate bastard are pretty fahking brutal as well. |
| _________________________________ [Apr 30,2008 9:07am - Martins ""] Good points, definitely. Europe may be beating us out. We need more good bands. |
| __________________________________________ [Apr 30,2008 9:13am - corpus_colostomy ""] kinda feels that way dont it.. |
| ______________________________ [Apr 30,2008 9:33am - blue ""] europe 2 to 1 |
| ________________________________ [Apr 30,2008 10:09am - aril ""] Insert the word "South" before 'American Metal' and we may have a competition |
| ___________________________________________ [Apr 30,2008 10:14am - corpus_colostomy ""] meh |
| _______________________________ [Apr 30,2008 10:32am - Yeti ""] Europe has always been better. |
| _______________________________________ [Apr 30,2008 10:34am - the_reverend ""] but we have awesome american bands like cryptosy. |
| ________________________________ [Apr 30,2008 10:38am - aril ""] I'm waiting for someone to come in here saying "The Faceless are the best American Death Metal band since... well, since Morbid Angel! And they're 12 years old!!" |
| ______________________________________ [Apr 30,2008 10:54am - AUTOPSY_666 ""] U.S. has too many boring bands. |
| _______________________________ [Apr 30,2008 11:01am - CNV ""] American death metal is terrible... Used to be good in the early 90's. Now it's all a rehash of pyrexia and suffocation crap. There are some exceptions: Arghoslent's - Hornets of the Pogrom crushes all of these college boy death metal homos. Europe can never touch Vincent era Morbid Angel... |
| __________________________________ [Apr 30,2008 11:16am - Martins ""] I don't think anyone can say that all European or all American death metal is terrible or great. No one here, myself included, really knows the extent of death metal in either area of the world. For every few terrible bands there has to be one that's great and innovative but also unknown. For all we know, the best Death Metal comes from an agricultural town in interior China. Probably not but you get my point. |
| _________________________________ [Apr 30,2008 11:18am - antny ""] SPAWN OF POSSESSION, ANATA, MARTYR... best Death Metal bands in the world at present. None are American. |
| _________________________________ [Apr 30,2008 11:19am - antny ""] American bands jock the slamtastic riffs waay way way too much. I love me some slam, but there is no denying that so many American bands sound nearly identical. |
| __________________________________ [Apr 30,2008 11:23am - Martins ""] You're only addressing one type of death metal. There are so many other styles and types each with their own unique idiosyncratic musical stylings. Thought I must agree on Spawn of Possession, not everyone knows every death metal band ever to say that anyone is the best metal band in the world. |
| _________________________________ [Apr 30,2008 11:26am - antny ""] I have my opinions and I really don't care if they're unfair to some shitty bands that play in a boring style of DM I don't like. I check out alot of bands and 95% of them are totally worthless and unoriginal, even bands that get jocked hard by people whose opinions I generally respect. Metal, especially death metal, is in large measure a stagnant genre in which so few bands display any real creativity and talent. There are bands out there that make it worthwhile, but they are few and far between. |
| ________________________________ [Apr 30,2008 11:29am - aril ""] I think American (black and death) Metal is pretty much at a standstill at the moment. |
| ___________________________________________ [Apr 30,2008 11:30am - corpus_colostomy ""] Martins said:each with their own unique idiosyncratic musical stylings. welcome mr. james lipton! |
| __________________________________ [Apr 30,2008 11:31am - Martins ""] That's exactly what I'm saying. There are a loooooooooooooot of bad bands but there has to be some good music out there. My point is that for every few bad bands there is one that is amazing and unknown. Sure a few make it, but there has to be more unknown ones out there. |
| _________________________________ [Apr 30,2008 11:32am - antny ""] True |
| __________________________________ [Apr 30,2008 11:33am - Martins ""] corpus_colostomy said: Martins said:each with their own unique idiosyncratic musical stylings. welcome mr. james lipton! Hahaha. I'm writing a 900,000 page Epic poem on Death metal, thank you very much. |
| ____________________________________ [Apr 30,2008 11:34am - dreadkill ""] antny said:I have my opinions and I really don't care if they're unfair to some shitty bands that play in a boring style of DM I don't like. I check out alot of bands and 95% of them are totally worthless and unoriginal, even bands that get jocked hard by people whose opinions I generally respect. Metal, especially death metal, is in large measure a stagnant genre in which so few bands display any real creativity and talent. There are bands out there that make it worthwhile, but they are few and far between. exactly |
| ____________________________________ [Apr 30,2008 11:35am - dreadkill ""] old swedish/american death metal > current worldwide death metal |
| ______________________________ [Apr 30,2008 1:17pm - blue ""] anyone who doesn't think there is any quality DM in the world right now needs to stop listening to so much shitty black metal. |
| ______________________________ [Apr 30,2008 1:19pm - blue ""] and I fully back antonio. SOP & martyr smoke all of your asses. |
| _______________________________ [Apr 30,2008 1:24pm - aril ""] agreed blue. there's soo much horrible bedroom black metal. everyone wants to be the next xasthur. |
| _________________________________ [Apr 30,2008 1:25pm - W3 nli ""] AUTOPSY_666 said:U.S. has too many boring bands. |
| _________________________________ [Apr 30,2008 1:27pm - W3 nli ""] antny said:American bands jock the slamtastic riffs waay way way too much. I love me some slam, but there is no denying that so many American bands sound nearly identical. BACK'D HARD :gun: |
| ______________________________ [Apr 30,2008 1:27pm - blue ""] I'll go ahead and say that both most BM and DM today though are swimming in lameness. But to say there is absolutely nothing of quality out there today is just straight up ignorant to explore for anything new. |
| ___________________________________________ [Apr 30,2008 1:39pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] Bloodbath > Every other death metal band. |
| __________________________________________ [Apr 30,2008 1:49pm - corpus_colostomy ""] lol @ bedroom black metal. |
| ___________________________________ [May 1,2008 1:13am - NoodleFace ""] Hypocrisy Thread over |
| __________________________________ [May 1,2008 2:46pm - PiresNLI ""] Inveracity and Benighted are my two favorite DM bands right now. So Europe wins. Go Europe! [img] |
| ____________________________________ [May 1,2008 3:17pm - corpus_NLI ""] inveracity, beheaded, despondency---i could survive off that solely off that shit!! |
| ________________________________ [May 1,2008 3:21pm - anthony ""] Beheaded are so amazing... Ominous Bloodline and Recounts of Disembodiment are fantastic CDs. |
| ____________________________________ [May 1,2008 3:23pm - corpus_NLI ""] i sleep with these cd's in my transformers pillowcase hoping that i will absorb their brutality through osmosis. |
| __________________________________________ [May 1,2008 3:36pm - mikeofdecrepitude ""] Demilich (rip) > all other EU DM |
| ____________________________________ [May 1,2008 3:42pm - corpus_NLI ""] so hessian, so impressive... |
| ____________________________________ [May 1,2008 3:44pm - Deteriorot ""] Inveracity's Influences are mostly american, just like all other band from the US and Europe Influences Broken Hope, Cannibal Corpse, Christ Denied, Deeds Of Flesh, Dehumanized, Fleshgrind, (early) Hate Eternal, Malevolent Creation, Monstrosity, Morbid Angel, Pyrexia, Terrorizer, Severe Torture, Slayer, Suffocation, Vile (US) |
| ________________________________ [May 1,2008 3:44pm - anthony ""] I love Demilich, but they are a bit too artsy for me. I feel they sacrifice good songwriting for weirdness to a certain extent. Still they are an amazing band. |
| ____________________________________ [May 1,2008 3:46pm - corpus_NLI ""] Deteriorot said:Inveracity's Influences are mostly american, just like all other band from the US and Europe Influences Broken Hope, Cannibal Corpse, Christ Denied, Deeds Of Flesh, Dehumanized, Fleshgrind, (early) Hate Eternal, Malevolent Creation, Monstrosity, Morbid Angel, Pyrexia, Terrorizer, Severe Torture, Slayer, Suffocation, Vile (US) is this new information to anyone? |
| __________________________________________ [May 1,2008 3:50pm - mikeofdecrepitude ""] Even though they're the gayest band now, Atrocity's Hallucinations and Todessehnsucht are underrated classics for EUDM. Considering Hallucinations was one of the 1st "technical" DM albums, you can tell bands like Cryptopsy got influenced by them. |
| ______________________________ [May 1,2008 3:55pm - aril ""] Luciferion's first release is awesome too. |
| ____________________________________ [May 1,2008 4:00pm - Deteriorot ""] corpus_NLI said: Deteriorot said:Inveracity's Influences are mostly american, just like all other band from the US and Europe Influences Broken Hope, Cannibal Corpse, Christ Denied, Deeds Of Flesh, Dehumanized, Fleshgrind, (early) Hate Eternal, Malevolent Creation, Monstrosity, Morbid Angel, Pyrexia, Terrorizer, Severe Torture, Slayer, Suffocation, Vile (US) is this new information to anyone? Probably not, but never forget who paved the fucking way...!!! US might be at a halt when it comes to brutal DM but never count them out. Just to clarify my statement from earlier on, we need more good USDM and less metalcore/grind wannabes...:skull::duffbeer: |
| ____________________________________ [May 1,2008 4:15pm - corpus_NLI ""] Deteriorot said: corpus_NLI said: Deteriorot said:Inveracity's Influences are mostly american, just like all other band from the US and Europe Influences Broken Hope, Cannibal Corpse, Christ Denied, Deeds Of Flesh, Dehumanized, Fleshgrind, (early) Hate Eternal, Malevolent Creation, Monstrosity, Morbid Angel, Pyrexia, Terrorizer, Severe Torture, Slayer, Suffocation, Vile (US) is this new information to anyone? Probably not, but never forget who paved the fucking way...!!! US might be at a halt when it comes to brutal DM but never count them out. Just to clarify my statement from earlier on, we need more good USDM and less metalcore/grind wannabes...:skull::duffbeer: fair enough and agreed! cheers! :duffbeer: |
| _______________________________________ [May 1,2008 11:00pm - neverpurified ""] corpus_colostomy said: (im not asking black metal, folk, pagan, lute, or whetever the fuck else. pretty much only interested in the top 3% of the sick DM bands from both countries) europe is a continent |
| _______________________________________ [May 1,2008 11:34pm - timtirpation ""] Putridity from Italy kills, check them out if you haven't already. |
| ______________________________________ [May 1,2008 11:37pm - ArrowHeadNLI ""] Yeti said:Europe has always been better. Wow, how old are you? |
| ________________________________________ [May 1,2008 11:52pm - NippleViolater ""] Is the opinion that Cannibal Corpse's "Kill" is one of the best death metal records to come out in years way too mainstream for the real DM fans out there? That album just kills it in every way. |
| ________________________________________ [May 1,2008 11:52pm - NippleViolater ""] I'm not one of those diehard death metal guys but I've been listening to the good stuff for a while now. |
| ______________________________ [May 2,2008 12:02am - blue ""] CC always releases solid albums. theres so much more out there though. |
| ________________________________________ [May 2,2008 12:06am - NippleViolater ""] Yea but I think Kill is the best recording they've ever had. I love it! |