Classical Music for Metalheads[views:5035][posts:39]_________________________________________ [Jul 10,2008 1:29pm - Conservationist ""] Classical music offers what everyone secretly wishes metal would: an unbroken cultural tradition untamed by the modern whore, untouchable by the mediocre tools who seem to thrive in our industrial cities. Here's a few favorites: 1. Brahms, Johannes - Get your Romanticism on. Flowing, diving, surging passages which storm through tyrannical opposition to reach some of the most Zen states ever put to music. 4 Symph. (2CD) 2. Respighi, Ottorino - Italian music is normally inconsequential. This has an ancient feeling, a sense of weight that can only be borne out in an urge to reconquest the present with the past. Pines, Birds, Fountains of Rome 3. Saint-Saens, Camille - Like DeBussy, but with a much wider range, this modernist Romantic rediscovers all that is worth living in the most warlike and bleak of circumstances. Symph. 3 4. Bruckner, Anton - Writing symphonic music in the spirit of Wagner, Bruckner makes colossal caverns of sound which evolve to a sense of great spiritual contemplation, the first "heaviness" on record.Romantic Symphony 5. Schubert, Franz - A sense of power emerging from darkness, and a clarity coming from looking into the halls of eternity, as translated by the facile hand of a composer who wrote many great pieces before dying young. Symph. 8 & 9 6. Paganini, Niccolo - Perhaps the original Hessian, this long-haired virtuoso wore white face paint, had a rumored deal with the devil, and made short often violent pieces that made people question their lives and their churches. 24 Caprices Excerpted from one of my blog posts at Metal Blog. For more information, see the original metal/classical fansite, The Dark Legions Archive. |
| _______________________________ [Jul 10,2008 1:32pm - aril ""] Classical music is great. I'm a huge fan of early classical music, specifically the Baroque and Classical era. I like some of the Romantic composers but for some reason I've always perfered Baroque... |
| _________________________________ [Jul 10,2008 1:43pm - Martins ""] aril said:Classical music is great. I'm a huge fan of early classical music, specifically the Baroque and Classical era. I like some of the Romantic composers but for some reason I've always perfered Baroque... LOL Only Classical music is Classical. Baroque is Baroque and Romantic is Romantic. [/douchebaggery] I prefer Romantic music but the simplicity and catchiness of Baroque era music is fantastic. Think Handel or Monteverdi. |
| _______________________________ [Jul 10,2008 1:59pm - aril ""] haha yea, it's funny how the generic term for all of it is "Classical Music" and yet there's a whole bunch of eras. |
| _________________________________ [Jul 10,2008 2:02pm - Martins ""] I took a class on Baroque music first semester last year and it ruled. I had a great teacher (world renowned, supposedly. He ruled at the [forte]piano and harpsichord). Baroque music is basically where all modern music stemmed from. |
| _____________________________________ [Jul 10,2008 2:54pm - Lame Crook ""] IMHO nothing can top "Symphonie Fantastique" by Hector Berlioz |
| _________________________________ [Jul 10,2008 3:02pm - Martins ""] I have yet to check out Berlioz. I need to get on that. |
| _____________________________________ [Jul 10,2008 3:08pm - Lame Crook ""] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symphonie_fantastique |
| _________________________________________ [Jul 10,2008 3:24pm - Conservationist ""] Martins said:Only Classical music is Classical. Baroque is Baroque and Romantic is Romantic. Actually, most classical fans accept the generic use now, but will specificy "the classical period" when they mean that type of music. |
| _______________________________ [Jul 10,2008 3:28pm - aril ""] Edvard Greig is another good one to check out. Vivaldi, Handel, Bach. The problem with classical music (if you call it a problem) is that Beethoven, Bach, Mozart, etc. have the ultimate spotlight when it comes to it. A lot of people who aren't really deep into classical music don't really delve deeper into other composers. There's so many, and so many awesome ones. |
| _______________________________________ [Jul 10,2008 3:43pm - thuringwethil ""] Penderecki Bartok Ligeti Xenakis and OF COURSE P.D.Q. Bach |
| _______________________________ [Jul 10,2008 3:50pm - aril ""] Bartok is the shit. |
| ______________________________ [Jul 10,2008 3:57pm - blue ""] Liszt shitting all over y'all. |
| _______________________________ [Jul 10,2008 3:59pm - aril ""] I heard John Williams pwns every composer that ever existed. Is this true? |
| ____________________________________________________ [Jul 10,2008 4:27pm - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""] GUSTAV HOLST FTW |
| _________________________________________ [Jul 10,2008 4:48pm - Conservationist ""] aril said: The problem with classical music (if you call it a problem) is that Beethoven, Bach, Mozart, etc. have the ultimate spotlight when it comes to it. A lot of people who aren't really deep into classical music don't really delve deeper into other composers. There's so many, and so many awesome ones. That's why we share the MP3s... http://www.corrupt.org/transcendence/forum/index.php?board=1.0 |
| _________________________________________ [Jun 24,2009 5:16pm - Conservationist ""] I went from being a metalhead who had a couple classical albums to a classical and metal listener. The two musics are really similar: like metal, classical strings together a series of riffs to tell a story. My favorite composers are: * Franz Schubert * Ottorino Respighi * Gustav Faure * Anton Bruckner * Camille Saint-Saens * Ludwig van Beethoven * Robert Schumann All of these dudes are extremely "metal": stormy, powerful, dark and lawless music. Some of my transition was inspired by the Talk Classical metal forum and "Classical Music for Metal Fans". Anyone else listen to classical? |
| ________________________________________ [Jun 24,2009 6:22pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] Conservationist said:Some of my transition was inspired by the Talk Classical metal forum It's hilarious checking out that forum and finding such a contrast - here we find metalheads who all have a huge respect for classical music, who are educated about it and have listened to it, and at that forum are people who are supposedly above everyone else because they're classical music purists, don't understand metal and berate and belittle everyone who has something to say about it. I love it. I've listened to a lot of Franz Schubert, Mozart (Agnus Dei especially), you can't find music better than that really. |
| _________________________________ [Jun 24,2009 6:23pm - darkwor ""] ^^ that was me. DYA thinks he owns my PC. |
| _________________________________ [Jun 24,2009 6:46pm - Martins ""] From that forum: "Metal is the worst genre of pop music. Funk, hip-hop and reggae are the best." |
| _________________________________________ [Jun 24,2009 7:21pm - Conservationist ""] I just called him out: http://www.talkclassical.com/5763-getting-metal-fans-involved.html |
| ______________________________________ [Jun 24,2009 9:04pm - Doomkid nli ""] I went and read those two threads, how can you even discuss music with people who dismiss everyone who doesn't play classical or jazz as lacking in musicianship? It is funny to see classical music geeks trolling against metal heads. |
| __________________________________________ [Jun 24,2009 10:43pm - BoarcorpseJimbo ""] I consider my love of metal to have been born from my love of classical. Dmitri shostakovich, and Bela bartok being my respectful 1&2. Hey, anyone wanna do a trip to the berkshires to Tanglewood to see the BSO? |
| __________________________________ [Jun 24,2009 11:57pm - darkwor ""] meeeeeeeeeeeeee |
| __________________________________________ [Jun 25,2009 12:25am - BoarcorpseJimbo ""] let's do it man... let me look at some dates.. |
| __________________________________________ [Jun 25,2009 12:38am - BoarcorpseJimbo ""] Ok, this is the best one all summer. We should take the day off and go out there early, it's fucking amazing out there. Rachmaninoff, and Shostakovich... it's gonna be some seriously fucking amazing stuff. Both of these particular pieces are among my favs too. August 14 2009, Friday 8:30 PM Rachmaninoff and Shostakovich Koussevitzky Music Shed Lenox, MA Michael Tilson Thomas, conductor Yefim Bronfman, piano RACHMANINOFF Piano Concerto No. 3 SHOSTAKOVICH Symphony No. 5 |
| __________________________________________ [Jun 25,2009 12:40am - BoarcorpseJimbo ""] fuck it, that whole weekend looks good... you in? August 15 2009, Saturday 8:30 PM Beethoven, Liszt and Ravel Koussevitzky Music Shed Lenox, MA André Previn, conductor Jean-Yves Thibaudet, piano BEETHOVEN Symphony No. 4 LISZT Piano Concerto No. 2 RAVEL La Valse August 16 2009, Sunday 2:30 PM All-Brahms Program Koussevitzky Music Shed Lenox, MA Kurt Masur, conductor Garrick Ohlsson, piano Tanglewood Music Center Orchestra BRAHMS Piano Concerto No. 2 BRAHMS Symphony No. 2 |
| _________________________________ [Jun 25,2009 9:18am - darkwor ""] Lenox, damn that's out there. Count me in Jimbo, let's leave as early as possible. It's at this place [img] |
| _________________________________ [Jun 25,2009 9:19am - darkwor ""] And it takes an hour shooting down the pike. |
| __________________________________________ [Jun 25,2009 11:24am - BoarcorpseJimbo ""] oh i've been there many times. It's fucking awesome. There's a cheap motel we can hit up about a 10min walk from the place. They sell full bottles of redwine to drink on the grass, and you can smoke weeds all day and not be bothered. |
| ___________________________________ [Jun 25,2009 11:26am - brian_dc ""] Edward Elgar has some of the most beautiful Cello concertos. I recommended his Cello Concerto in E Minor - Op. 85 |
| _______________________________ [Jun 25,2009 12:45pm - Yeti ""] dudes if you guys are really planning a trip like that inform me, i would love to see that. that sounds like a phenomenal weekend. |
| __________________________________________ [Jun 25,2009 12:46pm - BoarcorpseJimbo ""] consider yourself informed. I'll buy tickets this weekend, call me and we can figure out details. |
| ____________________________________ [Jun 25,2009 1:24pm - arilliusbm ""] that trip does sound intriguing. I was just having this discussion last week with some lady I work with: classical music is very intense live. seeing all the different instruments performing their parts, the passion, the musicianship. it's an awesome experience |
| _________________________________________ [Jun 25,2009 1:49pm - BoarcorpseJimbo ""] And hearing all the little clicks and clacks really makes a difference too. Not to mention at Tanglewood the overall atmosphere couldn't be any nicer. I think all in all Tanglewood is 2 square miles (including parking) so while not watching performances you can walk and look at some of the most beautiful scenery in NE. |
| ______________________________ [Jun 25,2009 3:15pm - Yeti ""] i'm in. |
| _________________________________________ [Jun 25,2009 3:22pm - BoarcorpseJimbo ""] word, i spoke to Jon a couple hours ago and he's all in too. So we'll all take that Friday off (the 14th of August) and we'll drive up early and see the show friday, the rehearsal sat morning, the show saturday, the show sunday afternoon, and then head back to the city. |
| _________________________________________ [Jun 25,2009 5:58pm - Conservationist ""] BoarcorpseJimbo said:I consider my love of metal to have been born from my love of classical. Me too. Without classical, I never would have understood death metal. Doomkid%20nli said:I went and read those two threads, how can you even discuss music with people who dismiss everyone who doesn't play classical or jazz as lacking in musicianship? They're pretty irritating about it. A selection: Quote: Originally Posted by Herzeleide View Post None, zero, zilch; don't go near it, it's terrible. Quote: Originally Posted by Bach View Post Metal is the worst genre of pop music. Funk, hip-hop and reggae are the best. Quote: Originally Posted by Bach View Post metalheads are ugly and gross. Those 'metal' girls make me want to hurl and the boys look like smelly unkempt yokels with tasteless, revolting piercing through every flap of skin. (and if they don't look like that that's only because they're too pussy or their mum won't let them - not through want of desire) They all look brain dead (which they must be) and they all deserve to be shot. Quote: Originally Posted by Bach View Post Nobody of any worth is a metalhead. Quote: Originally Posted by Bach View Post Or we could just ban anyone who expresses even the vaguest interest in becoming interested in becoming interested in metal. Or we could just stone them.. that's always a viable option. Quote: Originally Posted by sam richards View Post It is the fact Conservationist and most of the ANUSites (yes, you included) pretend to know about classical music when it's obvious that doesn't have the knowledge to discuss Classical. This is not a Metal forum. Quote: Originally Posted by Mirror Image View Post That reason alone, and the fact that I hate metal or any kind of "music" which lacks real musicianship, should be reason enough to avoid it. Quote: Originally Posted by Bach View Post But we still hate you and think your facile and pretentious breed of pop music is only fit to line a dust bin. Quote: Originally Posted by Bach View Post They're all geeky satanists and their music sounds like sped up computerised noise with foul vocals and laughable subject matters. Quote: Originally Posted by Mirror Image View Post Real musicians don't play metal, they play classical and jazz. Rock, metal, country, etc. are all styles of music that were created, in my opinion, because these "musicians" couldn't play classical or jazz and obviously showed no desire to do so, which in turn, means they don't understand the kind of commitment it takes to become a virtuoso on their instrument. But instrumentalists aside, there aren't any rewarding qualities about metal that interests me. Quote: Originally Posted by Mirror Image View Post That was a hilarious post. Thanks for the laugh. Quote: Originally Posted by Mirror Image View Post You won't be seeing me listening to metal either....ever. I don't listen to nonsense. Quote: Originally Posted by Bach View Post Metal isn't musicians music. I simply don't know any musicians of considerable talent who value it as an art form...as if these drugged out D- students have any right to discuss anything academic.. Quote: Originally Posted by Mirror Image View Post Metal is nonsense. It's all rooted in something that doesn't serve any purpose. It's only purpose, it seems, is to make people bash beer bottles on their heads and run around in a mosh pit like some uncivilized tribal ritual. The only difference here is people get hurt for no reason. |
| _________________________________________ [Jun 25,2009 6:00pm - BoarcorpseJimbo ""] Conservationist said: BoarcorpseJimbo said:I consider my love of metal to have been born from my love of classical. Me too. Without classical, I never would have understood death metal. wow, we agree 100% on something. |
| _________________________________________ [Jun 25,2009 6:44pm - Conservationist ""] BoarcorpseJimbo said:wow, we agree 100% on something. It happens. Quantum physics proven right yet again? |