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[QUOTE="Conservationist:819711"]I think a lot of us are on the same page... it's just hard to get a grasp on politics. There's a lot there to study and understand before one has the rudiments of an opinion. I was for many years a diehard liberal, convinced it was the right way to do things, and then I asked myself: 1. Will these methods/plans accomplish our goals? If so, why haven't they so far? 2. I believe my motivation to be honest; are others around me motivated by honesty, or ego or something else? 3. How happy are the people you know who are taking on these views? How successful? 4. If none of the above suggest a positive future, [i]cui bono[/i] from keeping us all pursuing liberalism? My answers shocked me, so I began studying for change. I don't identify as a conservative because I think they are both impractical and not extreme enough. My political guides are Plato and Aristotle; in them I find clarity that's lacking now. Santayana is not a bad start either, nor obviously is Nietzsche.[/QUOTE]
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