HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA..........yes, it's funny and contains Obama content.[views:2754][posts:26]_______________________________ [Oct 12,2008 7:34pm - Hoser ""] I heard a lady in the line at Market Basket call Obama "a purple lipped ape." Thought I was gonna shit my pants laughing. |
| _____________________________________ [Oct 13,2008 2:30am - sacreligion ""] go banana! |
| ____________________________________________ [Oct 13,2008 9:37am - purple lipped ape ""] i am highly offended and deeply unamused |
| _____________________________ [Oct 13,2008 9:41am - pam ""] Racism and ignorance...in my country? |
| ____________________________________________ [Oct 13,2008 9:45am - purple lipped ape ""] pam said:Racism and ignorance...in my country? thats why I stay in the jungle!:thescream: |
| _______________________________ [Oct 13,2008 9:52am - Hoser ""] Hey, it was just funny. She was talking to some other lady when she said that. Naturally, not being from Mass, NY, Conn, or any of those other flatlander PC whiny liberal states...I laughed my ass off. I could just see the look of disgust painted across some whiny PC dorks' face if he/she were there to hear it. |
| _____________________________ [Oct 13,2008 9:54am - pam ""] Hoser said:Naturally, not being from Mass, NY, Conn, or any of those other educated, college hosting, evolved states... fixed* |
| _______________________________ [Oct 13,2008 9:58am - Hoser ""] See what I mean?? Pam has censored my writings. Do you all see what the left wing does with the world?? They change it to their liking!!!! No opinions allowed, only theirs. Pam, why would you do this to us. Don't you see that you're ruining the whole world?? |
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| _____________________________________ [Oct 13,2008 10:11am - RichHorror ""] Does Maine really not have any colleges? |
| ________________________________ [Oct 13,2008 10:16am - Hoser ""] We have one of the better medical schools in the country...but other than that, we really don't have much. |
| _____________________________________ [Oct 13,2008 10:18am - RichHorror ""] Lucky. |
| _______________________________________ [Oct 13,2008 10:20am - Nobody_Cares ""] This type of intolerance would never happen at a Shaws or Hannaford. Keep the neanderthal views in Market Basket, in the Ramen aisle. |
| ________________________________ [Oct 13,2008 10:25am - holy ""] There's a reason why non-isolated/cultured blue states/cities are located where they are. Hoser should relocate to a southern/midwestern red state where most of his not so intelligent redneck buddies are. |
| ________________________________ [Oct 13,2008 10:58am - Hoser ""] Your face is not intelligent. Cities are for queehs!!! |
| __________________________________________ [Oct 13,2008 11:37am - Conservationist ""] RichHorror said:Does Maine really not have any colleges? Nilla, please. http://www.bowdoin.edu/ A friend of mine ended up there. He was an IB student and debater; knew his shit; said it was a great school with boring, drunken winters. |
| __________________________________________ [Oct 13,2008 11:38am - Conservationist ""] pam said:Racism and ignorance...in my country? While I don't like bigotry, ignorance of the differences between races is the new Scopes trial in this country. |
| ________________________________ [Oct 13,2008 12:28pm - Hoser ""] I am a Scopes monkey. |
| ___________________________________ [Oct 13,2008 12:38pm - grizloch ""] I'm going to assume, likely incorrectly, that you are truly ignorant to this concept and hit you up with a lesson handed to me by John H. Relethford, who literally wrote the book containing the common understanding of human origins and genetic evolution what exactly constitutes "race"? skin color? how black is black? how white is white? is it region of origin? how far back do you go when you say origin? what percentage of a persons lineage has to be from a certain place to make them, say, white? what happens to that theory when you factor in that all humans originate in Africa? if you want to look at ANY biological marker, keep in mind that biological variation exists in all populations, and defining one as unique to "blacks" or "whites" is highly improbable (I use that term because impossible isn't very scientific) if you can find a provable correlation between skin color (which in itself is 100% relative) and intelligence or any other biological ability (again, relative) I'll be the first to sign on board, but until you or anyone else does that, than race in a biological (and political) context exists only as a figment of 200 year old theorists' imaginations Yes there are current scientists who argue for the race concept, claiming that biological markers-ie cranium size, presence of greater fast twitch muscle mass, penis size, eye sight, etc (whose variation from the whole of the human population ranges to a MAX of 16%) shouldn't be ignored, but then that is only greater thantypical variation in the average joe by 4%, which would be true (although not particularly important) IF the researchers had bothered to define race in a useful manner (which again is highly improbable) if you want to show me whatever sources you are using to back up the "differences between races" I'll be sure to look them over and tell you why they are wrong, if you don't think I'm an adequate source, I'll forward them on to Relethford, who I'm sure would be more than happy to tell you why they are wrong |
| ________________________________ [Oct 13,2008 12:40pm - READ ""] Racism is just what this country still needs. Shoot those fuckers straight into the sun. I would love to run into someone saying shit like that, it would be the end of their days. ignorant bastards, its 2008 not 1963 |
| _________________________________________ [Oct 13,2008 1:10pm - Conservationist ""] grizloch said:what exactly constitutes "race"? skin color? OMG the old retarded strawman! You need to read THE RACE FAQ: http://www.goodrumj.com/RFaqHTML.html Only opponents of race claim it's "skin color" alone. Did you think anyone would be fooled by that gambit? Oh, and if he'll go on the record, I'd love to interview the good professor for CORRUPT.org -- I'd appreciate any contact info. |
| __________________________________ [Oct 13,2008 4:31pm - grizloch ""] first, I never claimed it was skin color, I asked how YOU define race, if you continue reading you'll see Ive listed other options for you to choose from, feel free to continue avoiding the question, captain "informed" and I think I'll take the risk and speak for Dr. Relethford when I say no, he is not interested in being interviewed for corrupt.org, he's jewish, if you need any other reason for him to be "corrupt" then you aren't doing your job right I look forward to finishing Goodrum's diatribe where upon I will point out where he goes wrong, and while I appreciate his extensive bibliography, I'm very curious as to exactly what his qualifications are, as there are none listed on his home page |
| _______________________________ [Oct 13,2008 5:16pm - dftg ""] This is gonna be good... |
| ____________________________________ [Oct 13,2008 6:59pm - spawn1349 ""] Fuck Hoser and all the stupid shit he posted!! Fuckin' white thrash, redneck, Nazi wannabe, intolerant, closed minded piece of shit!!! Get a life you fuck. |
| _______________________________ [Oct 13,2008 7:51pm - Hoser ""] I'm sorry that I offended you and your concrete nation. Please learn to live as I have, how many days in a row is the longest that you have ever lived with a a person of color? Sorry to the rest of us, I must call them "people of color because thats what the inner city trash call them." Sorry...I call a leaf a leaf...and a tree is a tree. I don't need any special words for that. |
| _________________________________________ [Oct 13,2008 9:58pm - Conservationist ""] grizloch said:first, I never claimed it was skin color, I asked how YOU define race, if you continue reading you'll see Ive listed other options for you to choose from, feel free to continue avoiding the question, captain "informed" and I think I'll take the risk and speak for Dr. Relethford when I say no, he is not interested in being interviewed for corrupt.org, he's jewish, if you need any other reason for him to be "corrupt" then you aren't doing your job right I look forward to finishing Goodrum's diatribe where upon I will point out where he goes wrong, and while I appreciate his extensive bibliography, I'm very curious as to exactly what his qualifications are, as there are none listed on his home page No, dude, you listed skin color and then began exploring that topic. See "how black is black?" I don't care if Relethford is Jewish or; neither CORRUPT nor I are anti-Jewish or anti-Semitic, and in fact as Pan-Nationalists are pro-Zionist. It wouldn't have killed you to actually read the web site before commenting. If he really believes in what he's saying, he won't mind a challenge from little ol' us, would he? You can read other sources on race than Goodrum, if you'd like. I recommend first getting a background in biological determinism, which might be well started by reading Stephen Pinker -- who also is Jewish, OMG, we should worry -- or Lynn, Murray, Herrnstein, etc, some of whom may also be Jewish. |
| ___________________________________ [Oct 14,2008 10:06pm - Grizloch ""] grizloch said:what exactly constitutes "race"? skin color? how black is black? how white is white? ***is it region of origin? how far back do you go when you say origin? what percentage of a persons lineage has to be from a certain place to make them, say, white? what happens to that theory when you factor in that all humans originate in Africa? ***if you want to look at ANY biological marker, keep in mind that biological variation exists in all populations, and defining one as unique to "blacks" or "whites" is highly improbable (I use that term because impossible isn't very scientific I just want to go on record here and say that if your typical way of reading includes reading the first line of a paragraph and then moving on, well, that's just unfortunate for you, but explains a great deal but back to that first line, answer the question, what constitutes race? Feel free to use any of the THREE examples I listed, or stump me with one of your own I have zero concern for corrupt.org, what its about or what you would be interested in asking Relethford, and being as he is a prominent member of his field, I doubt that he has the time or interest to be "challenged" by people who don't know the background of the person that they use as their go to source (who’s qualifications is another question you avoided answering). If you so choose you are welcome to google his name and find his email, I sincerely doubt he is difficult to track down, ask him yourself. and I'm well aware of biological determinism, I'm aware that it is a functioning science, what I am not aware of is how that relates to a fictional system of categorizing people based on genetic markers that vary throughout all human populations I have only started to get into my refutation of Goodrum, but I'll give you a quick once over. Goodrum continues to use three basic assumptions to back up his claims. First, humans are an animal, animals have subspecies (races), so should we. Second, humans aren't a genetically homogeneous species, variation exists. Third, races have existed in the past, so should they now. His first assumption is true, we are an animal, that’s where the similarities stop. We have the wheel, we have boats, and we have the ability to domesticate pack animals. We as a species have been mobile since we were evolutionarily different enough from Homo erectus to be called human (and if you know anything about hominin evolution, since before that time). Where this factors in with Goodrum's thought is that unlike cheetahs and jaguars, lions and tigers, etc. etc. we have been in near constant contact with neighboring human populations since we left Africa. What that means is that while genetic drift definitely took place between human populations, gene flow between those phenotypically varying populations common. And when you breed an oreo with a black, or someone with a different RFLP with peoples within a population with a common RFLP, the phenotype will eventually revert back, but the genotype is more persistent. Compound that by millennia, and you have a pound full of distinctly different looking mutts. Second, no one says variation doesn't exist, the argument is EXACTLY the opposite. There is such great genetic variation within the human species that, while slightly greater between different "races" than between members of said "races", the very slight genetic differentiation has not been proven to be functionally significant in any way, that is to say that intelligence, or anything else, is not in any way related to whatever genetic variance you should choose (which I think is clear that you are trying to argue, if I am wrong please clarify). Third, well to be frank, if this logic is to stand, then the world is flat and we should all worship the sun... Claiming that science from 1775 holds greater value than something that directly disproves those findings from the past decade is frightening. Regardless, if we were to assume that races had existed and they should still, what exactly makes up a race? You fail to understand the flaw in taxonomy, from Goodrum's conclusion, "Nevertheless, when the taxonomic term is used consistently across species, it’s difficult to see any justification for the common assertion that human races are merely ‘social constructs.'" Goodrum doesn't realize here that taxonomy itself is a social construct, the desire to split things into groups is something that we contemplated and put into practice, whether or not everybody is doing it holds little consequence. By that very flaw his entire argument falls apart. You will probably read that and try and say something like, the statistics don't lie, we are genetically different, but how different do you have to be to be a different race? Goodrum lists five races, that he pulled from another article, then he drops it to four, including the American Indian in the Asian race. If races are so concrete how is that possible? If we can manipulate races in that fashion than the science falls away and politics take over. While your conviction is adorable, and typically I ignore people as self righteous as yourself, you continue to push yourself further and further into the classic "I'm such a non-conformist, I'm going to conform just to be different," good luck with that though |