List of Scandals That Make Me Distrust Barack Obama[views:5531][posts:99]_________________________________________ [Oct 13,2008 1:03pm - Conservationist ""] List of scandals and deceptions by Barack Obama: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/10/us/politics/10donate.html?hp http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/09/acorn.fraud.claims/index.html http://www.thesocialcontract.com/artman2/p...lish/tsc_18_4/tsc_18_4_simcox.shtml http://www.ogdenonpolitics.com/2008/10/vot...rly-often-indianapolis-bloated.html http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/09/us/politics/09obama.html http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/33281?ts0hb&story=ts_pol http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/07/obama-funneled-state-money-to-family/ From: http://penetrate.blogspot.com/2008/10/list...scandals-that-make-me-distrust.html |
| ____________________________________ [Oct 13,2008 1:59pm - porphyria ""] I'm sure I could find as much bullshit against McCain but I have more important things to do, like eat pizza. Looks like all those articles have been published in the last day or two as well, seems like a last ditch effort from the McCain camp to sling mud/ accusations. |
| __________________________________________ [Oct 13,2008 2:10pm - sonof a.blinkin ""] porphyria said:I'm sure I could find as much bullshit against McCain but I have more important things to do, like eat pizza. Looks like all those articles have been published in the last day or two as well, seems like a last ditch effort from the McCain camp to sling mud/ accusations. yes and yes but its no :shocker:, republican way of thinking is to point out all of the faults of the other guy rather than actually have working plans/ideas themselves. |
| ________________________________ [Oct 13,2008 2:33pm - zyklon ""] Conservationist said:List of scandals and deceptions by Barack Obama: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/10/us/politics/10donate.html?hp http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/09/acorn.fraud.claims/index.html http://www.thesocialcontract.com/artman2/p...lish/tsc_18_4/tsc_18_4_simcox.shtml http://www.ogdenonpolitics.com/2008/10/vot...rly-often-indianapolis-bloated.html http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/09/us/politics/09obama.html http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/33281?ts0hb&story=ts_pol http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/07/obama-funneled-state-money-to-family/ From: http://penetrate.blogspot.com/2008/10/list-of-scandals-that-make-me-distrust.html Hoser, Nigger or whoever the fuck you are stop trying so hard to change people's mind cuz it aint working, you feel me dog? |
| _________________________________________ [Oct 13,2008 2:37pm - Conservationist ""] You wish it were true. Do you think you're going to scare/bully/intimidate/shame me into stopping? LOL |
| ________________________________ [Oct 13,2008 2:38pm - zyklon ""] You better stop... |
| ________________________________ [Oct 13,2008 2:39pm - zyklon ""] Do you even listen to METAL at all? or just Country |
| __________________________________ [Oct 13,2008 2:40pm - cav nli ""] STOP in the name of love |
| _________________________________________ [Oct 13,2008 2:43pm - Conservationist ""] zyklon said:Do you even listen to METAL at all? No, never, LOL |
| ________________________________ [Oct 13,2008 2:44pm - zyklon ""] Wow |
| _________________________________________ [Oct 13,2008 2:53pm - Conservationist ""] I really don't like metal at all. Especially early black metal. That stuff is awful. |
| ________________________________ [Oct 13,2008 2:55pm - zyklon ""] If you don't like metal what are you doing here then? |
| ______________________________________ [Oct 13,2008 2:55pm - the_reverend ""] [img] |
| _______________________________ [Oct 13,2008 2:56pm - yummy ""] cav%20nli said:STOP in the name of love Before you break my heart. |
| __________________________________ [Oct 13,2008 2:59pm - ScumFuck ""] [img] |
| ______________________________________ [Oct 13,2008 6:20pm - Nobody_Cares ""] Conservationist said: zyklon said:Do you even listen to METAL at all? No, never, LOL If I remember correctly this dude talks about predominately really good metal. What other reason would there be to go to this website? Obviously what he posted really got to you but its his perogative to do such things. I personally appreciate most of his posts, nothing wrong with spreading knowledge. Its easy to have an intelligent persona when you have the whole internet to reference, though I'm not doubting he is such in real life. Whatever, read it or don't read it. |
| ______________________________ [Oct 13,2008 7:00pm - Lamp ""] zyklon said:If you don't like metal what are you doing here then? You're a fucking idiot. Better to have a right winger for company than some dumbass who tries to talk street and never has a better insult than "fuck you nigga!!!!!!!!" |
| __________________________________________ [Oct 13,2008 8:17pm - largefreakatzero ""] I don't like either candidate at all. What I can say is that some of the tactics in the 1st 2 articles were used by Bush to defeat Gore -- fake voter names, dead people mysteriously voting, etc. This was all coming to the surface, when Gore mysteriously stepped down and basically handed the presidency to W. Again, I don't like either candidate in this election -- very, very sad choice. |
| _______________________________ [Oct 13,2008 8:22pm - Hoser ""] Ummm....where you been the last 20 years...Mars? Thats what Dems do, tard. |
| _______________________________________ [Oct 13,2008 8:22pm - thuringwethil ""] choice between a douche and a turd not as bad as Bush vs. Kerry though |
| __________________________________________ [Oct 13,2008 8:40pm - largefreakatzero ""] Hoser said:Ummm....where you been the last 20 years...Mars? Thats what Dems do, tard. Haha -- dude, did you just call me a tard? |
| __________________________________________ [Oct 13,2008 8:53pm - DaveFromTheGrave ""] cav%20nli said:STOP in the name of love best post in this thread |
| _________________________________________ [Oct 13,2008 9:53pm - Conservationist ""] thuringwethil said:a turd Turds are brown... THAT'S RACIST! The choice is bleak this election. It always is, with the two-party system. And as Plato points out, with democracy ;) |
| ________________________________ [Oct 13,2008 9:54pm - zyklon ""] Lamp said: zyklon said:If you don't like metal what are you doing here then? You're a fucking idiot. Better to have a right winger for company than some dumbass who tries to talk street and never has a better insult than "fuck you nigga!!!!!!!!" Ok, fuck your mama, is that better? |
| __________________________________________ [Oct 13,2008 10:01pm - Conservationist ""] Nilla, please. |
| ____________________________________ [Oct 13,2008 10:09pm - MASlayer ""] I've purposely stayed out of all the political banter on these boards but I do have a question or 2...all the liberals on here seem that the only opinion to be shared is there's but when a McCain supporter provides a side to his argument you all get into such a state of whine and defense...almost as if you were scared that what Conservationist or Hoser brings to the table may be more valid than you care to acknowledge...why such a stand off position with a varying opinion if you are all so confident in Obama? you know...the guy who voted 94 times for higher taxes...the guy with ties to a racist church...the guy with ties to a known terrorist...or are these not palpable facts? Or are you all too afraid to acknowledge them? |
| _________________________________ [Oct 13,2008 10:14pm - zyklon ""] U got a point |
| _____________________________________ [Oct 13,2008 10:24pm - porphyria ""] MASlayer said:the guy who voted 94 times for higher taxes...the guy with ties to a racist church...the guy with ties to a known terrorist...or are these not palpable facts? Or are you all too afraid to acknowledge them? All of those things have been acknowledged already if you watch or read anything at all. I'm not going into detail but... he didn't vote 94 times for higher taxes, that accusation has been answered if you've been watching anything. he's going to raise taxes for RICH people, fine by me. the 'ties' to a racist church hold no ground, doesn't reflect his opinion, dude is half white for fucks sake... all church is stupid as hell...what about video proof of Palin being saved by a 'witch doctor' and attending a pentecostal church that speaks in tongues. there are no proven ties of Obama and Ayers, Obama was 8 years old when that went down. What about McCain in the Keating Five? Gotta love how McCain/Palin are trying to paint Obama as a terrorist because of his name. |
| __________________________________________ [Oct 13,2008 10:27pm - Conservationist ""] porphyria said:dude is half white for fucks sake... all church is stupid as hell... Obama: “black people have reason to hate.” |
| _______________________________ [Oct 13,2008 10:51pm - Lamp ""] If anything, all this stuff makes me trust Obama even more, if he's a real man with real hate in him then good. I don't want a guy with sunshine crammed up his ass ruling over a land I live in. And fuck patriotism too. I guess it's one thing if you worked hard to move to a place where you could achieve a better life for yourself no matter where that place may be, but it doesn't take any talent to be born in a certain location and taking pride in it is gay as fuck. |
| ________________________________ [Oct 13,2008 11:12pm - Murph ""] [img] I choose him, he can do it. |
| ___________________________________________ [Oct 13,2008 11:21pm - corpus_colostomy ""] if you need a list of "scandals" in order to find distrust within your own mind, then your a dummy. politicians are innately untrustworthy. |
| __________________________________________ [Oct 13,2008 11:25pm - Conservationist ""] Lamp said:And fuck patriotism too. I guess it's one thing if you worked hard to move to a place where you could achieve a better life for yourself no matter where that place may be, but it doesn't take any talent to be born in a certain location and taking pride in it is gay as fuck. It's not the location. It's the people, the culture, the history and the familial lines we have. To belong to a place is to be its people, not some random grey race of jumbled fuckups who left their failing countries for some place where it was easier instead of fixing said third world shitholes. Do you realize the environmental cost of mass immigration? |
| __________________________________ [Oct 14,2008 12:51am - sxealex ""] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keating_Five |
| __________________________________ [Oct 14,2008 12:58am - sxealex ""] terry brashaw, red from that 70s show and regis were there too |
| ___________________________________ [Oct 14,2008 7:37am - MASlayer ""] porphyria said: MASlayer said:the guy who voted 94 times for higher taxes...the guy with ties to a racist church...the guy with ties to a known terrorist...or are these not palpable facts? Or are you all too afraid to acknowledge them? All of those things have been acknowledged already if you watch or read anything at all. I'm not going into detail but... he didn't vote 94 times for higher taxes, that accusation has been answered if you've been watching anything. he's going to raise taxes for RICH people, fine by me. How utopian...tell me...name 1 democrat that kept his promise in the last 30 years that kept their promise of a middle class tax cut |
| _____________________________________ [Oct 14,2008 8:18am - Josh_Martin ""] MASlayer said:I've purposely stayed out of all the political banter on these boards but I do have a question or 2...all the liberals on here seem that the only opinion to be shared is there's but when a McCain supporter provides a side to his argument you all get into such a state of whine and defense...almost as if you were scared that what Conservationist or Hoser brings to the table may be more valid than you care to acknowledge...why such a stand off position with a varying opinion if you are all so confident in Obama? you know...the guy who voted 94 times for higher taxes...the guy with ties to a racist church...the guy with ties to a known terrorist...or are these not palpable facts? Or are you all too afraid to acknowledge them? 1st of all, don't put Conservationist and Hoser in the same category. Hoser has demonstrated zero capability for thought. He's like Rush Limbaughs retarded cousin. Raising taxes for the rich is fine by me. Racist church? The religous right is more racist and far more scary to have in power than some fringe wackjob nignut. Known terrorist? Anyone who equates the Weather Underground with Al Queda needs to be removed from the gene pool. That accusation is just bafflingly stupid. I don't vote on economic issues anyways. They're all rich assholes out for themselves. Though the right has taken greed to levels unseen since the days of Tamany Hall, but on an international scale. The area where the two parties really differ is on social issues and what will make the biggest and longest lasting influence on that is who gets placed on the Supreme Court. I would much rather Obama get to choose who the next justice or two is than McCain (or Palin since McCain is gonna die like any day now, how many fucking times has that guy had cancer?? I vote yes to abortion, yes to decriminaling drugs, no to religion ion schools etc etc. And while not every dem agrees with all my positions and not every repub disagrees with all my positions, by far the dems are much closer to my way of thinking. (yes, I know there some dems supporting the drug war and I know there are some pro-choice repubs, I'm talking in the general sense) The only thing I really disagree with the dems on is gun control. If we have to have guns, I don't want the govt. being the only people to have them. But that one issue is less important to me than the others. |
| _____________________________________ [Oct 14,2008 9:04am - Josh_Martin ""] The Globe endorsed Obama today. Big surprise, I know but I really liked the ending: Campaigns are crucibles, and this one has revealed McCain to be erratic, out of touch with ordinary Americans, and, with Palin as his shotgun messenger, too quick with the sneer, smear, and division. He has been a profound disappointment, and he is unfit to lead the nation into its perilous future." |
| ______________________________________ [Oct 14,2008 9:17am - the_reverend ""] "How utopian...tell me...name 1 democrat that kept his promise in the last 30 years that kept their promise of a middle class tax cut" the problem is that dems can't keep their shit in their pants so their successor is a republican. then the GOP fucks it all up. tell me one republican who kept his promise of small government. |
| ________________________________________ [Oct 14,2008 9:31am - monster_island ""] bennyhillifier bennyhillifier |
| ________________________________________ [Oct 14,2008 9:33am - monster_island ""] the_reverend said:"How utopian...tell me...name 1 democrat that kept his promise in the last 30 years that kept their promise of a middle class tax cut" the problem is that dems can't keep their shit in their pants so their successor is a republican. then the GOP fucks it all up. tell me one republican who kept his promise of small government. speaking of keepin their shit in their pants ... johnny boy is an infidel too ... he was porking paris hilton sr. while he was still with his first wife LOL ... Mccain is a swine !! |
| __________________________________________ [Oct 14,2008 9:45am - sonof a.blinkin ""] Josh_Martin said: MASlayer said:I've purposely stayed out of all the political banter on these boards but I do have a question or 2...all the liberals on here seem that the only opinion to be shared is there's but when a McCain supporter provides a side to his argument you all get into such a state of whine and defense...almost as if you were scared that what Conservationist or Hoser brings to the table may be more valid than you care to acknowledge...why such a stand off position with a varying opinion if you are all so confident in Obama? you know...the guy who voted 94 times for higher taxes...the guy with ties to a racist church...the guy with ties to a known terrorist...or are these not palpable facts? Or are you all too afraid to acknowledge them? Known terrorist? Anyone who equates the Weather Underground with Al Queda needs to be removed from the gene pool. That accusation is just bafflingly stupid. FINALLY SOMEONE ELSE ACKNOWLEDGES THIS!! If these guys were considered terrorists , then so should everyone who ever protested against the government :wiggam: |
| ____________________________________ [Oct 14,2008 9:49am - porphyria ""] Sen. Barack Obama says the personal attacks levied against him by the campaign of his presidential rival, Sen. John McCain, particularly references to his association with 1960s anti-war radical Bill Ayers, are an attempt to "score cheap political points." "Why don't we just clear it up right now," Obama told ABC News' Charlie Gibson in an exclusive interview for World News. "I'll repeat again what I've said many times. This is a guy who engaged in some despicable acts 40 years ago when I was eight years old. By the time I met him, 10 or 15 years ago, he was a college professor of education at the University of Illinois . . . And the notion that somehow he has been involved in my campaign, that he is an adviser of mine, that . . . I've 'palled around with a terrorist', all these statements are made simply to try to score cheap political points." Obama said that the McCain campaign is making personal attacks "the centerpiece of the discussion in the closing weeks of a campaign where we are facing the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression and we're in the middle of two wars." I think that makes very little sense, not just to me but to the American people," Obama said. Obama said he believes the personal attacks are an attempt to "change the subject" and draw attention away from the issue at the front of most voters' minds: the struggling economy. "I mean, you've had their spokespeople over the last couple of days say if we talk about the economic crisis, we lose. I mean, you can't be much more blatant than that," he said. Obama also said he was surprised some of those attacks weren't brought up by his opponent at the debate Tuesday night at Belmont University in Nashville, Tenn. "I am surprised that, you know, we've been seeing some pretty over-the-top attacks coming out of the McCain campaign over the last several days, that he wasn't willing to say it to my face. But I guess we've got one last debate. So presumably, if he ends up feeling that he needs to, he will raise it during the debate." And Biden backs him up: "All of the things they said about Barack Obama in the TV, on the TV, at their rallies, and now on Youtube and everything else," Biden said — referring to McCain and Palin tying Obama to Weatherman bomber Bill Ayers and accusing him of "palling around with terrorists." "John McCain could not bring himself to look Barack Obama in the eye and say the same things to him," he said to cheers. "In my neighborhood, you got something to say to a guy, you look him in the eye and you say it to him." |
| ____________________________________ [Oct 14,2008 9:55am - John Cole ""] John McCain is not man enough to own his shit. John McCain will not openly confront Obama with his smears and lies and innuendo. John McCain will not come out and talk about Ayers, he has to be asked. That is why he goes to places like Fox News, so he can be asked. What a coincidence. John McCain is a coward. John McCain would rather hide behind his wife and Sarah Palin than say it himself. He would rather produce 2 minute ads that his campaign will never pay to air anywhere, and hope that the tire-swinging media will bring up the topic so he doesnt have to do it himself. John McCain just wants to throw shit out there, and "raise questions" about Obama, and hope his supporters connect the dots, because he is too much of a coward to directly push this toxic stew. He would rather hide behind right-wing bloggers, surrogates, and scummy websites staffed with wingnut welfare recipients like the NRO and the Weekly Standard. John McCain had 90 minutes to bring this stuff up to Obama, to his face, and passed. John McCain is a coward. bennyhillifier |
| _________________________________________ [Oct 14,2008 10:02am - monster_island ""] bennyhillifier |
| ______________________________________ [Oct 14,2008 10:12am - Josh_Martin ""] John%20Cole said:John McCain is not man enough to own his shit. John McCain will not openly confront Obama with his smears and lies and innuendo. John McCain will not come out and talk about Ayers, he has to be asked. That is why he goes to places like Fox News, so he can be asked. What a coincidence. John McCain is a coward. John McCain would rather hide behind his wife and Sarah Palin than say it himself. He would rather produce 2 minute ads that his campaign will never pay to air anywhere, and hope that the tire-swinging media will bring up the topic so he doesnt have to do it himself. John McCain just wants to throw shit out there, and "raise questions" about Obama, and hope his supporters connect the dots, because he is too much of a coward to directly push this toxic stew. He would rather hide behind right-wing bloggers, surrogates, and scummy websites staffed with wingnut welfare recipients like the NRO and the Weekly Standard. John McCain had 90 minutes to bring this stuff up to Obama, to his face, and passed. John McCain is a coward. Also: John McCain was a terrible pilot who would've been thrown out of the navy if it weren't for his family connections. John McCain, far from being a hero POW, told his vietnamese captors who his father was in order to get special treatment. John McCain sold out his fellow POWs by denying their existence after the war and voting against any rescue missions. Remember that guy Murdoch in Rambo? The guy Rambo said "I'm coming to get YOU" to? McCain is basically that guy but way worse. John McCain was a spoiled crybaby with a bad temper BEFORE he was a POW. Add 5 years of vietnamese POW treatment to his already shitty personality and you get someone who shouldn't be anywhere near the button or in any place of military authority. John McCain is a piece of shit who dumped his first wife after she was disfigured in a car accident and traded her in for the pill-popping bimbo he's with now. |
| _______________________________________ [Oct 14,2008 10:52am - goatcatalyst ""] ... What about "Niggergate" ??? |
| __________________________________________ [Oct 14,2008 11:11am - Conservationist ""] John%20Cole said:JJohn McCain will not openly confront Obama with his smears and lies and innuendo. John McCain will not come out and talk about Ayers, he has to be asked. I agree that's a mistake, but it's also part of a fundamentally different attitude between left and right on how to fight in politics: How Obama and the Left Are Alienating Normal People McCain should also confront Obama on these flaws: * Obama is corrupt. * Obama has no experience outside very tame activities sponsored by others. * Did he ghostwrite his book? Ayers may have done it for him. And even more, on these issues: * How will his campaign affect the long-term health of our economy, since it includes more expenditures? * Will taxing the "rich" (people above $140,000) have a positive effect on the economy, or as many think, result in fewer revenues paid? * Will more welfare and entitlement programs solve long-term problems? * How will a black candidate who preaches black rage enact racial reconciliation (if such an idea is possible)? * What elites does Obama represent, and how will these skew his policy? |
| ___________________________________ [Oct 14,2008 11:22am - cav nli ""] preaches black rage? |
| __________________________________________ [Oct 14,2008 11:31am - Conservationist ""] Have you taken a look at "The Audacity of Hope"? |