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Candiria-What Doesn't Kill You...APPRECIATION.

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[Dec 4,2008 9:28pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""]
I know there is already a thread discussing this album to a brief extent, but I'm making a new thread because I fucking can. This album is fucking amazing. Anyone who thinks it's nu-metal needs to get new ears and start sucking dicks, starting with mine. And if by some chance I'm wrong, then I don't want to be right. Fuck you.
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[Dec 4,2008 9:31pm - Hoser ""]
awesomeness....
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[Dec 4,2008 9:31pm - todayistheday nli  ""]
they are horrible now
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[Dec 4,2008 9:34pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""]
I need to get my hands on the Candiria album that never got released (wink wink nudge nudge Moe).
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[Dec 4,2008 9:43pm - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""]
Awesome album. Fuck da haterz.
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[Dec 4,2008 10:05pm - W3 nli  ""]
def did not care for that record
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[Dec 4,2008 10:08pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""]
I don't care for you, Sean Coale.
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[Dec 4,2008 10:09pm - W3 nli  ""]
Mr. Richards, that would hurt my feelings if you ever once made me pasta of any sort.
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[Dec 4,2008 10:09pm - yummy ""]
What Doesn't Kill You...Allows You To Progressively Get Worse
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[Dec 4,2008 10:10pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""]
Yeah, well, life's tough and sometimes you don't get pasta.
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[Dec 4,2008 10:11pm - MikeOvDecrepitvde  ""]
Isn't there a brand new track up on their myspace?
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[Dec 4,2008 10:19pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""]
Not that I'm aware of, but I haven't checked. I should get on that.
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[Dec 4,2008 10:25pm - Martins ""]
Eliot talks about this band sometimes. But he likes Slipknot so I don't listen to him LOLOLOLOLOL
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[Dec 4,2008 10:30pm - Blue nli  ""]
Mark i still say this album is horrible. Process of self development FTW
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[Dec 4,2008 10:36pm - yummy ""]
Surrealistic Madness FTW
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[Dec 4,2008 10:38pm - xanonymousx ""]
I like this band.
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[Dec 4,2008 10:44pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""]

Blue%20nli said:Mark i still say this album is horrible. Process of self development FTW


I will fight you to the death. Not personal, just business.
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[Dec 4,2008 11:39pm - moenli  ""]
this album is actually pretty fucking good from what i've heard...nothing like the last album...just heavy, techy almost mastadon-y melodic heavy.....stuff...i dunno

but this is a solid release
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[Dec 5,2008 5:50am - TheGreatSpaldino ""]
have you heard the NEW album. it fucking sucks so hard. its like they are TRYING to suck.
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[Dec 5,2008 7:00am - MarkFuckingRichards ""]

TheGreatSpaldino said:have you heard the NEW album. it fucking sucks so hard. its like they are TRYING to suck.


That's the one I need to get my hands on.
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[Dec 5,2008 8:34am - RustyPS ""]

MarkFuckingRichards said:I need to get my hands on the Candiria album that never got released (wink wink nudge nudge Moe).

http://christalmartyr.blogspot.com/2008/11/three-candiria-albums.html

you're welcome.... :spineyes:


As far as my two cents on WDKY, I didn't like it.....the slow rock-ish parts don't suit them well and kills any momentum the typical Candiria parts on that album build. Everything from Surrealistic Madness to 300% Density is phenomenal though.
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[Dec 5,2008 8:54am - MarkFuckingRichards ""]
Rusty, you are the man.
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[Dec 5,2008 8:57am - RustyPS ""]
:D
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[Dec 5,2008 9:06am - MikeofDecrepitude ""]
Surrealistic Madness, Beyond Reasonable Doubt, and The Process... make up the Holy Trinity of Candiria albums. 300% isn't too shabby either.
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[Dec 5,2008 10:40am - c.DeAD  ""]
I used to have the second album, I thought it was pretty cool when it came out. I have to re-listen to them. I saw them at the Espresso Bar and were awesome.
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[Dec 5,2008 10:47am - archaeon ""]
I bought this a few weeks ago. I like but I'm gonna figure I'll like the earlier shit better.
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[Dec 5,2008 1:41pm - W3 nli  ""]
dammit now im hungry and want pasta
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[Dec 5,2008 2:34pm - TheGreatSpaldino ""]

MarkFuckingRichards said:
TheGreatSpaldino said:have you heard the NEW album. it fucking sucks so hard. its like they are TRYING to suck.


That's the one I need to get my hands on.



no you dont. seriously. i love old candiria and a little of "what doesnt kill you" but honestly... i would have rather super-glued a porcupine to my johnson than listen to that album.
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[Dec 5,2008 2:49pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""]
I'll have to make that decision for myself, haha. I liked the direction they were going with the melodic stuff on WDKY.
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[Dec 5,2008 2:56pm - brian_dc ""]
drummer is really fucking good

dominates his kit
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[Dec 5,2008 3:12pm - oscarct ""]
I got there earlier more death sounding demos if anyone wants em
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[Dec 5,2008 3:32pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""]
Oh I want them. Big fucking time!
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[Dec 5,2008 3:59pm - RustyPS ""]

brian_dc said:drummer is really fucking good

dominates his kit



Yea man, he's phenomenal.

Anyone ever see their video for Without Water? When they hit that slow part in the middle of the song, they focus in on the drummer. It's unbelievable to watch the drummer play that part. It looks like he's in a trance playing this ridiculous part.

EDIT: My bad, it's the video for Signs of Discontent. The part I'm talking about is at about the 2:11 spot:

bennyhillifier
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[Dec 5,2008 4:17pm - Josh_Martin ""]
I have a couple of their early demos. The actual tapes not jsut dubbed copies. Are those worth anything on Ebay? (I can't go on Ebay at work)

I think one is called Subliminal and the other one is called Deep in the Mental, I think.


I used to see them all the time when they first formed. They opened NYC shows all the time. Especially at L'amour. The black guy singer used to call himself the Marijuana Messiah. Does he still do that? That was stupid and gay.
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[Dec 5,2008 4:22pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""]
Haha, I do not believe he has called himself that in a long time. You could probably make some cash on eBay for those demos.
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[Dec 5,2008 10:30pm - MadOakDevin ""]
i appreciate all the songs that don't have that gay singing nu-metal shit. fuck nameless king and a couple other tracks.
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[Dec 5,2008 10:30pm - MadOakDevin ""]
the new cd seems like it'll be good though
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[Dec 6,2008 4:27am - MarkFuckingRichards ""]
I honestly don't see how any of the album is nu-metal at all. The melodies are far more advanced than any shit nu-metal band could ever touch and there are still Candiria style grooves underneath it.
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[Dec 6,2008 6:05am - josh_hates_you ""]
+ one for surrealistic madness.

first saw this band at the espresso bar in 95 or 96. last time i saw them was at lupo's with life of agony 2006 maybe. yes they played temple of sickness \m/

there are about 3 good songs on what doesn't kill you..... that i would consider "candiria songs" the rest is definately swaying towards nu metal pop over produced crap. amazing for nu metal pop crap but i just don't want to hear it on a candiria album. yes i agree MFR it is complex and still has that candiria signature to the sound and style but it is still watered down and weak.

bottom line while what doesn't kill you has it's strong points overall it fails as far as candiria albums go.

*edit* Forgot to mention kenneth schalk has always been one of my favorite drummers. simply amazing.
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[Dec 6,2008 9:21am - MikeOvDecrepitvde  ""]
What doesn't kill you is watered down Candiria. Carley's vocals are not nearly as intense as they were on previous albums, especially when he was doing those septic-styled screams and DM vocals. There's no real experimentation or progressive elements, it's just straight forward metal/hxc music with some interesting timing. I hear nu metal influence on it as well, as other's have pointed out. It's not like they pulled a Korn or anything, but the influence is indeed there.
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[Dec 6,2008 10:55am - thebloodening ""]
i saw them a few times in like 1997 or something, back when smoking was aloud in MA and the singer whipped out a fat blunt and started smoking it right on stage...
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[Dec 20,2008 8:24pm - pickles 13  ""]
candiria is being forced to play crap on what doesnt kill you by the illuminati thats the only explanation i can conceive of every other album was inventive aggresive and interesting what doesnt kill you makes me want to buy skoal n kick my dog
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[Dec 20,2008 8:29pm - sxealex ""]

pickles%2013 said:candiria is being forced to play crap on what doesnt kill you by the illuminati thats the only explanation i can conceive of every other album was inventive aggresive and interesting what doesnt kill you makes me want to buy skoal n kick my dog

LOLOLOLOLOLLOLOL


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