Weed decriminalization begins this Friday[views:13311][posts:187]______________________________ [Dec 30,2008 3:20pm - Yeti ""] Pires said:I'm just saying there's more to life than getting high or drunk. so because you feel that way, then anyone who feels differently is immature? i enjoy the worlds of both greenery and beer and have huge aspirations for the future, and i work very hard to maintain my choice of lifestyle. i also get a lot out of life, and in ways, i feel i may get a little bit more out of life. does that mean things can't be accomplished with substances in my life? absolutely not. thats ridiculous to assume. just because some fuckhead ruined his life because he couldn't control his extra-curricular activities doesn't mean that everyone is like that. think man. |
| _______________________________ [Dec 30,2008 3:20pm - Pires ""] the state can take your kids if they find you to be irresponsible. Trust me. I know weed isn't that big of a deal. But all it takes is one or two fuck ups and you're done. I'm sure many of you are great parents. I'd honestly just hate to see someone not only screw up their life, but their kids life as well. Especially since mass. has now decriminalized weed. It's not meant to be a free for all. And yes. You can still be charged for oui. And heavy smokers have weed in their system for up to 30 days. And the shitty part is, they can get you for oui even if you hadn't smoked that day. If they take a blood test, and it's in your blood, you can and will be charged with oui. It's up to the court and your lawyer to prove otherwise. Extremely faulty system yes, and I don't agree with it, but it is out there. |
| ______________________________ [Dec 30,2008 3:23pm - Yeti ""] but if you are stupid enough to get caught and ruin your life, then you are one of the ones that brings a bad name to the responsible ones, and thus no sympathy is deserved. anyone who gets caught is an idiot, its so easy to be cautious and it really only takes an extra second to do so. |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 30,2008 3:24pm - arilliusbm ""] "you realize you're going 10 miles below the speed limit, right? "yes, officer" "time for a blood test, fucker." |
| ______________________________ [Dec 30,2008 3:25pm - Yeti ""] "you know how fast you were going?" "65?" "63" "but isn't the speed limit 65?" "yeah....it is" |
| _____________________________ [Dec 30,2008 3:26pm - pam ""] Oh well thank you for your genuine concern for me and my family. Eat a dick. |
| _______________________________ [Dec 30,2008 3:27pm - Pires ""] haha. In all seriousness, I have a feeling many teens are going to ruin this for the people who like to just chill and smoke. |
| _____________________________ [Dec 30,2008 3:28pm - pam ""] Pires said:the state can take your kids if they find you to be irresponsible. Trust me. I know weed isn't that big of a deal. But all it takes is one or two fuck ups and you're done. I'm sure many of you are great parents. I'd honestly just hate to see someone not only screw up their life, but their kids life as well. Especially since mass. has now decriminalized weed. It's not meant to be a free for all. And yes. You can still be charged for oui. And heavy smokers have weed in their system for up to 30 days. And the shitty part is, they can get you for oui even if you hadn't smoked that day. If they take a blood test, and it's in your blood, you can and will be charged with oui. It's up to the court and your lawyer to prove otherwise. Extremely faulty system yes, and I don't agree with it, but it is out there. Find me ONE person who isn't one fuck up away from ruining their life. That's life, and it applies to EVERYONE. |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 30,2008 3:28pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] Littering and... Littering and... Littering and... |
| ______________________________ [Dec 30,2008 3:29pm - Yeti ""] pam said:Oh well thank you for your genuine concern for me and my family. Eat a dick. you are awesome. |
| ___________________________________ [Dec 30,2008 3:30pm - dreadkill ""] regardless of whether it's getting caught smoking pot, forgetting to turn the oven off, or driving carelessly, pam's right: everyone is basically one mistake away from ruining their life. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 30,2008 3:31pm - ouchdrummer ""] Conservationist said: Pires said:I'm just saying there's more to life than getting high or drunk. I agree. What makes you think anyone thinks getting high or drunk is the most important thing in life? The fact that we are excited that we won't be arrested for something that should be legal in the first place? For something that has been PROVEN to reduce the risk of lung cancer? That's right, not only does the tar from pot NOT give you cancer, it has been proven to REDUCE the risk of getting it. And for just because people get excited that it's being decriminalized, you think they have nothing in their life but getting high or getting drunk.... I don't buy it. You just wanna tell everyone that you DON'T do those things, that you aren't saying it specifically... but you do think your better than us. Seriously, where in this thread did ANYONE say that getting high or drunk trumps serious life goals or ambitions? They didn't. So shut the fuck up. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 30,2008 3:34pm - ouchdrummer ""] ... and to boot, PAM- I know familys that have raised some of the most well balanced, nice, funny, happy children in the world. And their parents smoked weed constantly. Don't listen to people like this who try and make everyone else feel bad, mostly because they don't have anything to feel good about. |
| _____________________________ [Dec 30,2008 3:34pm - pam ""] Yeti said: pam said:Oh well thank you for your genuine concern for me and my family. Eat a dick. you are awesome. Back atcha, Tony. |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 30,2008 3:38pm - porphyria ""] dreadkill said:pam's right: everyone is basically one mistake away from ruining their life. For example: I could have humped a fairly attractive thai prostitute in hong kong but I think I made the right choice and walked out of the 'Bar' as soon as one asked me to take her to a hotel room. Fortunately I drink soda, otherwise I may have been more apt to make a different decision. :spineyes: |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 30,2008 3:38pm - Josh_Martin ""] Pires said:the state can take your kids if they find you to be irresponsible. Trust me. I know weed isn't that big of a deal. But all it takes is one or two fuck ups and you're done. I'm sure many of you are great parents. I'd honestly just hate to see someone not only screw up their life, but their kids life as well. Especially since mass. has now decriminalized weed. It's not meant to be a free for all. And yes. You can still be charged for oui. And heavy smokers have weed in their system for up to 30 days. And the shitty part is, they can get you for oui even if you hadn't smoked that day. If they take a blood test, and it's in your blood, you can and will be charged with oui. It's up to the court and your lawyer to prove otherwise. Extremely faulty system yes, and I don't agree with it, but it is out there. Your lack of understanding of the new law is astounding. Please read it a little more closely before talking about it. The only way DSS is going to bust some parent for smoking weed is if some vindictive piece of shit rats them out. Its not like crack or heroin where you're spending your kid's food and medicine money on drugs. You claim to not be a "straight edge" but you sure come off like one. That whole blood test situatuion you're describing is extremely unlikely. That's only going to happen if the cops really want to nail for something much more serious but they need to buy time to gather more evidence. They don't have roadside blood tests. |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 30,2008 3:39pm - porphyria ""] dreadkill said:pam's right: everyone is basically one mistake away from ruining their life. For example: I could have humped a fairly attractive thai prostitute in hong kong but I think I made the right choice and walked out of the 'Bar' as soon as one asked me to take her to a hotel room. Fortunately I drink soda, otherwise I may have been more apt to make a different decision. :spineyes: |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 30,2008 3:40pm - Josh_Martin ""] porphyria said:my ex-gf's parents use to get high with her friends (much younger) with their other 10-11 year old daughter in the next room. It was pretty uncomfortable to be around that. people can do what they want, I don't really care. I'll never understand why some people can't function without getting high or get drunk constantly...or is that backwards? oh well! You are uncomfortable around any drugs in any situation. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 30,2008 3:40pm - ouchdrummer ""] Pires said:the state can take your kids if they find you to be irresponsible. Trust me. I know weed isn't that big of a deal. But all it takes is one or two fuck ups and you're done. I'm sure many of you are great parents. I'd honestly just hate to see someone not only screw up their life, but their kids life as well. Especially since mass. has now decriminalized weed. It's not meant to be a free for all. And yes. You can still be charged for oui. And heavy smokers have weed in their system for up to 30 days. And the shitty part is, they can get you for oui even if you hadn't smoked that day. If they take a blood test, and it's in your blood, you can and will be charged with oui. It's up to the court and your lawyer to prove otherwise. Extremely faulty system yes, and I don't agree with it, but it is out there. Acutally you are very, very wrong. It is the BURDEN OF THE STATE to prove beyond a reasonable doubt, that the weed in your system was smoked just prior to, and still in effect during the time you were driving. That's a fact. They have to basically catch you smoking while your driving to get you on a OUI. and don't talk to the police. |
| _____________________________ [Dec 30,2008 3:41pm - pam ""] ouchdrummer said:... and to boot, PAM- I know familys that have raised some of the most well balanced, nice, funny, happy children in the world. And their parents smoked weed constantly. Don't listen to people like this who try and make everyone else feel bad, mostly because they don't have anything to feel good about. Both my parents smoke, my dad regularly. Someone should go tell my dad to grow up. That'd be hilarious. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 30,2008 3:48pm - ouchdrummer ""] and ANOTHER thing... the cops can't give you a BLOOD test!! Where the fuck are you getting these ideas? Are you just making them up? You ever heard of privacy? Do you know the search and seizure laws? Do you think if a cop can't search your TRUNK if you don't permit it, that they can take your blood?!! Your an idiot. |
| _____________________________ [Dec 30,2008 3:52pm - pam ""] Yeah I giggled at the blood test thing. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 30,2008 4:02pm - ouchdrummer ""] maybe i am over-reacting....maybe it's cause i am four days into quitting butts, but when i read such idiotic uninformed crap... i stress a bit... if people would just inform themselves about things BEFORE they state really dumb opinions on said things, i would be much happier. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 30,2008 4:05pm - Josh_Martin ""] ouchdrummer said:maybe i am over-reacting....maybe it's cause i am four days into quitting butts, but when i read such idiotic uninformed crap... i stress a bit... if people would just inform themselves about things BEFORE they state really dumb opinions on said things, i would be much happier. Its not just you. That shit bugs the hell out of me too. Mostly because someone else may read what this idiot is posting and assume it to be true and then the wrong info keeps perpetuating itself. |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 30,2008 4:10pm - arilliusbm ""] Well, I think Pires has a point. We should abuse this now that it will be in affect. It should be taken in a positive way. I think it will ultimately lead better things for the pot-smoking community in MA. I hope a bunch of idiot thug kids don't drive around smoking non-stop. It will cause more concern for it and well, you know how politicians are. |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 30,2008 4:11pm - arilliusbm ""] err.. we should not abuse* ahahaha |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 30,2008 4:12pm - arilliusbm ""] Now that it'll be in effect though, what do you think the general outcome will be? Do you think that it will do all the things the supporters said it will do? I think so. |
| _____________________________ [Dec 30,2008 4:14pm - pam ""] I don't trust cops, therefor I'd never smoke where I would be easily caught anyway. That's just stupid. Plus they'll take my weed and smoke it themselves. Fucking cops. |
| _____________________________ [Dec 30,2008 4:17pm - pam ""] arilliusbm said:Now that it'll be in effect though, what do you think the general outcome will be? Do you think that it will do all the things the supporters said it will do? I think so. I think those dickheads under the golden dome will overturn it. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 30,2008 4:27pm - Josh_Martin ""] arilliusbm said:Well, I think Pires has a point. We should abuse this now that it will be in affect. It should be taken in a positive way. I think it will ultimately lead better things for the pot-smoking community in MA. I hope a bunch of idiot thug kids don't drive around smoking non-stop. It will cause more concern for it and well, you know how politicians are. No, he has no point at all (not a valid one anyway). Stupid kids cannot ruin it for the rest of us. The new law is actually HARSHER for under 18s caught with weed than before. It forces them to go to drug treatment and if they fail to do that they get even more fucked. Its us adults who get off light now. I realyl wish people would read the fucking law before talking about it. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 30,2008 4:29pm - Josh_Martin ""] pam said: arilliusbm said:Now that it'll be in effect though, what do you think the general outcome will be? Do you think that it will do all the things the supporters said it will do? I think so. I think those dickheads under the golden dome will overturn it. I was worried about that but I think if they were going to fuck with it, they would have done it by now, before it takes effect. Besides it passed with such an overwhelming majority it would political suicide for whoever brings up a bill to make weed a crime again. |
| _____________________________ [Dec 30,2008 4:31pm - pam ""] Hope you're right. |
| ___________________________________________ [Dec 30,2008 4:47pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] Josh_Martin said: I realyl wish people would read the fucking law before talking about it. just because you read something doesnt necessarily mean you comprehend it. |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 30,2008 4:57pm - arilliusbm ""] Ah, shit you're right. I forgot about that whole thing about the under 18s. That's good to hear. |
| ______________________________________________ [Dec 30,2008 5:07pm - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] Enough of this pussy weed shit, when are they going to decriminalize heroin!? |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 30,2008 5:30pm - ouchdrummer ""] Josh_Martin said: pam said: arilliusbm said:Now that it'll be in effect though, what do you think the general outcome will be? Do you think that it will do all the things the supporters said it will do? I think so. I think those dickheads under the golden dome will overturn it. I was worried about that but I think if they were going to fuck with it, they would have done it by now, before it takes effect. Besides it passed with such an overwhelming majority it would political suicide for whoever brings up a bill to make weed a crime again. Exactely. After the landslide that was question 2, and them not overturning it before it takes effect, not only would it be political suicide, but it would take several steps before the law could be reformed again, and hell would be raised before then. Josh, we don't always (usually....(ever)...) agree, but people who lop pot smoking in with crack, meth, etc.., and who think it should be treated the same way, make me crazy.... and the thing that gets me the most riled up is when people talk about weed like adults, talking about the pros/cons of the new law, and people have to butt in with "There is more to life than getting high" bullshit. What is that, rehearsed? There is no place for comments like that in a discussion like this. It doesn't even make sense to SAY something like that in this thread, all it does is show that they are so damn "different" and that they live a more "pure" lifestyle. Fucking pricks. I can't stand em. Why don't we do away with cold medicine because all it does is mask the symptoms of a cold, and doesn't actually fix anything. Basically, getting you high? Why don't we stop people from exercising to the point of super high natural endorphins? I mean some of those people ADMIT to doing it for the buzz!! Because obviously a "buzz" is inherently evil.... let's think about that for a minute, what is so evil about wanting to do something because it makes you feel good, or relaxes you? What about aromatherapy? How is that different? What about sex with birth control? If you aren't trying to create a child, then is there a point besides the buzz you get? Which don't kid yourselves, intercourse makes your body use a certain chemical called dopamine, and that's right, it gets you real high. Is it because your smoking something? Since when is inhaling gases bad or evil? Is it because your "escaping" so to speak? That's the answer i get most of the time, that they don't need to "escape" like i do, and they think it's wrong.... but i escape much more into music, and books. I do those more often than i get high, and for longer periods, god, i read almost EVERY NIGHT!! I forget EVERYTHING when reading a book. Is that evil? Where do you draw the line? Fuck everyone. |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 30,2008 5:34pm - arilliusbm ""] ouch, let's puff sometime. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 30,2008 5:34pm - ouchdrummer ""] absolutely. |
| _____________________________ [Dec 30,2008 6:06pm - pam ""] me three. |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 30,2008 6:11pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] SHUT UP HIPPIE |
| _____________________________ [Dec 30,2008 6:15pm - pam ""] FIGHT ME OR YOU'RE A PUSSY |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 30,2008 6:18pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] Dude, harsh. |
| _____________________________ [Dec 30,2008 6:19pm - pam ""] I just want to love you. |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 30,2008 6:19pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] SHUT UP HIPPIE |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 30,2008 6:22pm - arilliusbm ""] DYA eats indian food and then poops his pants during band practices |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 30,2008 6:25pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] SMELL THE LOVE |
| _________________________________ [Dec 30,2008 6:49pm - reimroc ""] DestroyYouAlot said:SMELL THE LOVE Thats the petrulli oil |
| ___________________________________ [Dec 30,2008 8:08pm - dreadkill ""] BobNOMAAMRooney%20nli said:Enough of this pussy weed shit, when are they going to decriminalize heroin!? FIGHT WEED OR YOU ARE THE PUSSY |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 30,2008 8:16pm - timtirpation ""] Yeti said:but if you are stupid enough to get caught and ruin your life, then you are one of the ones that brings a bad name to the responsible ones, and thus no sympathy is deserved. anyone who gets caught is an idiot, its so easy to be cautious and it really only takes an extra second to do so. ha ha, I'm sorry but this is one of the dumbest things I have ever read. |
| ______________________________________________ [Dec 30,2008 8:17pm - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] dreadkill said: BobNOMAAMRooney%20nli said:Enough of this pussy weed shit, when are they going to decriminalize heroin!? FIGHT WEED OR YOU ARE THE PUSSY FIGHT HEROIN OR WEED IS THE PUSSY |