D-Robo 4-Bay hard drive Enclosure for $458[views:11609][posts:87]______________________________________ [Dec 31,2008 6:38pm - the_reverend ""] http://www.ecost.com/detail.aspx?edp=41818...0)&cm_em=orders@returntothepit.comD I've wanted one of those forever... so tempted. bennyhillifier |
| ______________________________________ [Dec 31,2008 6:47pm - the_reverend ""] http://www.drobo.com/Products/drobolator.html 2x1.5TB and 2x750GB would be 4.5TB, 4.1TB after disc over head. put that into the Drobo would be 2.7TB of backed up space! so tempted... if they had an 8-bay for that price, it would be no question. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 31,2008 7:30pm - xanonymousx ""] say what? is it like a raid drive? |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 31,2008 8:45pm - porphyria ""] I guess I still don't fully understand this thing...how does it distribute a the data of a failed drive AFTER it fails? What if there isn't enough space on the additional drives? Doesn't seem like this could be trusted as an alternative to the traditional raid 1 or something. |
| ______________________________________ [Dec 31,2008 8:46pm - the_reverend ""] WATCH THE FRIGGIN VIDEO! |
| ______________________________________ [Dec 31,2008 8:48pm - the_reverend ""] http://www.drobo.com/Products/BeyondRAID.html |
| ______________________________________ [Dec 31,2008 8:48pm - the_reverend ""] "If you already understand how RAID 0, 1, or 5 operates, you understand the fundamentals of BeyondRAID since it relies on the precisely the same underlying data protection methodologies, namely mirroring and striping with parity." |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 1,2009 12:37am - the_reverend ""] I'm still drooling over this, but just realized that my 2 750GB are IDE and not SATA. it supports up to 16TB.... drives that don't even exist now. How killer would it be to drop a 4TB drive into there. or 4x1.5TB... I've got piles of 500GB on the ground now. I'm seriously thinking about this as a solution to my storage problems... $450 isn't too bad for something that is scalable. How much was your Iomega? |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 1,2009 2:56am - the_reverend ""] im such a dork. have been thinking about this drive all night. |
| ________________________________________ [Jan 1,2009 9:48am - Conservationist ""] the_reverend said:I'm still drooling over this, but just realized that my 2 750GB are IDE and not SATA. it supports up to 16TB.... drives that don't even exist now. How killer would it be to drop a 4TB drive into there. or 4x1.5TB... I've got piles of 500GB on the ground now. I'm seriously thinking about this as a solution to my storage problems... $450 isn't too bad for something that is scalable. How much was your Iomega? Do it, and make it the file server for your home network. It's obviously going to stick around for awhile. In the world of storage technology, $450 is a crackwhore blow job -- cheap and it happens quickly. Go for it. And never buy anything from Iomega. |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 1,2009 9:52am - the_reverend ""] tom (aka porphyria) had an iomega that died and then sent him another, but it was a refurb. Then sent another that was a refurb with all 1.5TB's. and then they sent another one that had all the drives in it that he had. I'm debating now, the first gen drobo is only $359. The second gen are $459. This really would be the best solution for me and all my drives. If this were before xmas, I would have probably gotten carina one. the 1st gen one of course. |
| ________________________________________ [Jan 1,2009 9:54am - Conservationist ""] the_reverend said:tom (aka porphyria) had an iomega that died and then sent him another, but it was a refurb. Then sent another that was a refurb with all 1.5TB's. and then they sent another one that had all the drives in it that he had. I had the same experience with another Iomega product in 1996 or so. the_reverend said:I'm debating now, the first gen drobo is only $359. The second gen are $459. This really would be the best solution for me and all my drives. If this were before xmas, I would have probably gotten carina one. the 1st gen one of course. Figure out if your RAM works. If it doesn't, RMA the fuckers. Then add up the total bill for RAM + drobo and see how bad it looks to you. Chances are you need all of it. A recent upgrade for me was a chance to end some nagging problems, and get some old dying equipment out of the house. I filled it with goat porn and donated it to a church. |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 1,2009 9:56am - the_reverend ""] and this will be good until hard drives get bigger than 4TB. |
| ________________________________________ [Jan 1,2009 9:58am - Conservationist ""] That would be an insane amount of storage. Is there even that much anal pron in the univ--- well, of course there is. |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 1,2009 9:58am - the_reverend ""] oh, I bought new RAM... 4GB of 1066MHZ ($69) stuff and it won't step down to the 800MHZ speed that the motherboard takes. so I'm using some old 533MHZ from a computer that never really worked. one of the sticks is bad. I guess I could RMA it, but I'm going to have to get 4GB of 800MHZ RAM anyhow. I'm just trying to find someone who will traid 4GB of 800mhz for 4GB of 106mhz. |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 1,2009 9:59am - the_reverend ""] Conservationist said:That would be an insane amount of storage. Is there even that much anal pron in the univ--- well, of course there is.Need more slav slaves |
| ________________________________________ [Jan 1,2009 9:59am - Conservationist ""] Good point. Sounds like a Craigslist dilemma at this point. That's weird about the RAM not stepping down. Who made it? |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 1,2009 10:08am - the_reverend ""] wait, it was $59 when the 800mhz was $39. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...-_-Content-_-text-_-N82E16820231166 |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 1,2009 11:07am - the_reverend ""] hm... time to find a dell 25% off coupon http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/product...l.aspx?c=us&l=en&cs=19&sku=A1755231 |
| _________________________________________ [Jan 1,2009 11:18am - Conservationist ""] the_reverend said: Conservationist said:That would be an insane amount of storage. Is there even that much anal pron in the univ--- well, of course there is.Need more slav slaves We can get 'em cheap around here, in addition to Mexican girls and Thai ladyboys. 25% off $499 is quite hefty. That puts you within range of rev1 prices. |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 1,2009 11:35am - the_reverend ""] I tried buying a 25% off coupon on fleabay, but none of them will work on this unit. I think I'm probably going to just bite the bullet. I have 2x1.5TB and 2x500GB that can go in it now. |
| _________________________________________ [Jan 1,2009 11:53am - Conservationist ""] Sometimes, it's worth the cost just to centralize resources, and make maintenance less chaotic. |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 1,2009 6:34pm - the_reverend ""] yeah, that's what I'm thinking... but then I will have a couple extra 500's and 750's to do something with... 500 (IDE) to my PS3, 750 (IDE) into my TIVO. that leaves me with the SATA II drives: 2x1.5TB 1x750GB 5x500GB plus 2x500GB that are already in enclosures. |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 1,2009 10:02pm - the_reverend ""] why didn't alex look at this thread? |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 1,2009 10:12pm - the_reverend ""] looks like in 2011, 4TB drives! On Monday, Hitachi Global Storage Technologies (GST) announced that it expects to be shipping 4TB desktop and 1TB laptop drives by 2011 |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 2,2009 9:31am - the_reverend ""] up |
| _________________________________________ [Jan 2,2009 10:12am - Conservationist ""] the_reverend said:looks like in 2011, 4TB drives! On Monday, Hitachi Global Storage Technologies (GST) announced that it expects to be shipping 4TB desktop and 1TB laptop drives by 2011 Translation: the earliest you'll want to buy them is in 2012 (when the world ends). However, as it is... dude, you have a shitload of storage. I hope you abuse it irresponsibly. As frightening as it is to face this fact, I think I could fill 4 TB of MP3s without breaking a sweat. |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 2,2009 11:39am - the_reverend ""] right now, I have 175gb of mp3s that I have collected. |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 2,2009 10:34pm - the_reverend ""] ordered for $408. |
| _________________________________________ [Jan 2,2009 10:53pm - Conservationist ""] the_reverend said:right now, I have 175gb of mp3s that I have collected. That's impressive. Really impressive. I guess it'd be cheating, but one thing I like to have around are FLACs. You can listen to them at the machine, or burn them to CD and have a perfect copy of the original. It's the best way to get a lot of out of print music, especially from the 1930s-1960s. |
| __________________________________ [Jan 2,2009 10:59pm - dertoxia ""] im really interested to know how this works |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 2,2009 11:10pm - the_reverend ""] if I like this, I'm going to troll for a refurb'd unit to put 4x500GB at work. |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 2,2009 11:16pm - the_reverend ""] BTW, I got my system running with DIMM1: 2GB 800mhz DIMM2: 2GB 1066Mhz DIMM3: 1GB 800mhz (former 533mhz memory) DIMM4: 2GB 1066Mhz and it boots. if I replace DIMM3 with anything else, it won't boot. I just need a 64-bit system now. |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 2,2009 11:16pm - the_reverend ""] os |
| __________________________________ [Jan 2,2009 11:16pm - dertoxia ""] i have a 160GB in my MythTV computer. I think i paid like 270 for in like 2002. I hate buying storage cause that shit always happens. I could go out and buy a 1TB right now for less than this 160GB cost me....but then in a couple years i'll be able to get a 160TB drive for the same price. |
| __________________________________ [Jan 2,2009 11:17pm - dertoxia ""] wait rev....are all 4 of those slots the same color? Actually the color doesnt even matter, i know a lot of boards alternate between single and dual-channel slots. |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 2,2009 11:17pm - the_reverend ""] I blew $240 on a 8GB once. I like this drobo cause it will be good with hard drives until 2013. |
| _________________________________________ [Jan 2,2009 11:19pm - Conservationist ""] the_reverend said:BTW, I got my system running with DIMM1: 2GB 800mhz DIMM2: 2GB 1066Mhz DIMM3: 1GB 800mhz (former 533mhz memory) DIMM4: 2GB 1066Mhz and it boots. if I replace DIMM3 with anything else, it won't boot. I just need a 64-bit system now. Holy crap. Very cool. How does the 2:1 on slots 1,3 work out? |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 2,2009 11:24pm - the_reverend ""] I'm running a 32-bit system, so I'm guessing that it is 1 and 3. I need to install a 64-bit system to see the rest. If I could get grub to load win xp by default, I would load up 64-bit ubuntu. |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 2,2009 11:25pm - the_reverend ""] some dude at work is going to give me his vista ultimate 64-bit license cause it was given to him and he doesn't need it. |
| _________________________________________ [Jan 2,2009 11:34pm - Conservationist ""] Nice late Xmas gift there! |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 2,2009 11:52pm - the_reverend ""] yeah, lik ethe gift that keeps giving AIDS. I just used the calculator. 1x500, 1x750, 2x1.5tb is 2.5TB of useable space. Then I added 4x1.5TB and it's 4.1TB or space. |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 2,2009 11:52pm - the_reverend ""] of space |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 2,2009 11:57pm - the_reverend ""] oh, I'm also writing a disc stats app. it's going to scan all files and make an image of name/date/size and possibly a file hash. Run it each month so I can see if a virus has affected anything. It will give me a change stats page. |
| _________________________________________ [Jan 3,2009 12:19am - Conservationist ""] A friend did this for his hosted Linuxen. It's not a bad idea at all. You need at least one screen in your house that's an uber control panel. That way, not only is it useful, but you can pretend to be Batman at the Batcomputer. |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 3,2009 12:25am - the_reverend ""] I will slide down a pole for that. |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 3,2009 12:28am - the_reverend ""] I'm going through my 2 manually mirrored 1.5TB drives and deleting all the files that shouldn't be there.... lame. |
| _________________________________________ [Jan 3,2009 10:25am - Conservationist ""] http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/01/02/0626201 |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 3,2009 10:36am - porphyria ""] the_reverend said:$450 isn't too bad for something that is scalable. How much was your Iomega? I think it was $550, but it also came with 2 x seagate 750GB drives. I run them Raid 1. |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 3,2009 10:43am - porphyria ""] the_reverend said:tom (aka porphyria) had an iomega that died and then sent him another, but it was a refurb. Then sent another that was a refurb with all 1.5TB's. and then they sent another one that had all the drives in it that he had. haha yeah, I had 4 of the things at one point, sent back two of the refurbs which were damaged in shipping due to poor packing from their warehouse and finally got them to send me a brand new one from the headquarters. I still haven't sent back the original case with drives and haven't heard anything from them. So I basically got to keep 2 extra 750gb drives...I kinda figured they could actually care less if I sent them the defective case with drives back. 6TB of hd action! lol. [img] |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 3,2009 10:45am - porphyria ""] one thing I do like about the iomega ultramax's is that they are eSATA (or usb)...why doesn't the drobo have eSATA??? |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 3,2009 10:48am - the_reverend ""] I'm guessing that your drives there run a lot faster than the drobo. |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 5,2009 12:25pm - the_reverend ""] I just found a $50 MIR! |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 8,2009 10:56am - the_reverend ""] finally friggin shipped. If I really like this.. I might get a second one $439-$50MIR. |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 8,2009 10:57am - porphyria ""] lemme know how it is, I may get one eventually... |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 8,2009 10:58am - the_reverend ""] "Terms and Conditions: Hard drives sold separately. Rebate valid for end users in the United States and Canada only. Rebate not available for VARs. Rebate will be in U.S. Dollars and in the form of a gift card. Limit of 5 rebates per household. Offer valid on purchases made between January 1st, 2009 through January 31st, 2009. Rebate form and receipt must be postmarked no later than February 28th, 2009. Please allow 90 days for processing. This offer may not be combined with any other coupon codes, show specials, or promotions from Data Robotics, Inc. Void where prohibited. Please keep a copy of all materials mailed for your records. For questions about this offer or your Drobo /DroboShare, please contact 1-866-99ROBOT or 408-567-3100." |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 10,2009 2:09am - the_reverend ""] OF COURSE! my fackin computer shit itself and doesn't boot... it did this an hour before the drobo was delivery. FUCK BUILDING YOUR OWN COMPUTER. |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 10,2009 2:34am - the_reverend ""] Ok, I put in 1x500GB, 1x750gb, 1x1.5tb and it formated it with 1.13TB. then I plugged in a 500GB drive and a few seconds later, 1.58tb. WOW! friggin awesome! |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 10,2009 3:02am - the_reverend ""] omg... I can't believe it... in the process of getting all my data backed up in the drobo, I copied it (all my movies, all my vides, and all my games) a few hours ago to my computer and then I plugged in the hard drive and now it just clicks. FUCK! All of my scans are on it too. |
| __________________________________________ [Jan 10,2009 11:39am - Conservationist ""] FUCK. What brand and model of HD? Does it spin up at all? |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 12,2009 9:28pm - the_reverend ""] yes, it spins up. the noises say "head stuck in seEk position" |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 12,2009 9:35pm - the_reverend ""] a guy at work gave me a CD with a billion different bootable things on it. |
| _______________________________________ [Jan 13,2009 10:09am - the_reverend ""] ok, the drive was 500GB 750GB 500GB 1500GB I finished copying my other 1.5TB drive. the unit was 1/2 full. Everyone came to my cubicle at work and I pulled out the 500GB. The drobo started copying all the data around. While it did this, I pushed in the freshly emptied 1.5TB drive and it went into rebuild mode. A few seconds later, the 1.5TB showed up as more space. It's currently building the disks again. it started at 10am with 5hrs remaining to redistribute about 800GB. After 8 minutes, it's now at 2hrs remaining. The only thing is that right now it says that it can't protect against a single drive failure until it's done building. |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 14,2009 1:42am - the_reverend ""] great... the 1.5TB drives are showing a 40% failure rate right now... I'm using the drives so I can't pull them out and check the fw version |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 14,2009 9:24am - the_reverend ""] http://www.tow.com/2008/12/12/updating-seagate-15tb-drive-firmware/ looks like you need to update the HD firmware to make them reliable... that means I need another 1.5TB with the newer fw to put into the drobo, rebuild, and then update the 1.5TB and put it back in. Swap out the second 1.5tb with firmware sd17, etc... this might suck. At least I don't have data on the drobo that isn't other places. |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 14,2009 2:38pm - the_reverend ""] So I have 1x500gb, 1x750gb, and 2x1.5TB in the drobo. I copied things to it and it work just fine. Then a couple times it froze and I had to reboot it. Looked on line and the 1.5TB drives aren稚 supported with the firmware that is in them (SD17). That fw causes frozen drives and there are reports out there of 40% failure rates. I知 waiting for Seagate to get back to me. Then I reboot the system (on a freeze) and just before I do, I notice that the 500GB is posting as a failed, but I was already in the motions of removing the plug to power cycle it. ARG! The 500GB is a Maxtor from aug 2006 that is the same kind as the one that is in my freezer right now having failed. This blows goats. Right now, the drobo is in the process of rebuilding once again. I hope it gets done before 3:30 when I have to leave. Otherwise I知 not sure what I知 going to do. Maybe leave it here to build over night? That means no fw updates to the 1.5TB drives tonight. Looks like I知 going to drive up to maine to bring my dog to the vets, then drive back down here and then drive back home. The good thing is that I still have access to my data while it痴 in the data recovery process AND I left the drobo without my laptop to build. For any of you looking for what I知 doing, live through my lumps. |
| ________________________________________ [Jan 14,2009 3:09pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] System32? |
| _______________________________________ [Jan 14,2009 4:25pm - watchmaker666 ""] http://lime-technology.com/ unraid |
| _______________________________________ [Jan 15,2009 10:16am - the_reverend ""] unRAID seems neat. The Drobo rebuilt on to the 1x500gb, 1x750gb, and 2x1.5TB. I pulled out a 1.5TB and put in a 500GB. now it's back to 2x500gb, 1x750gb, and 1x1.5TB. Rebuilt just fine. Tonight, I'm probably going to pull out the other 1.5TB and put in an old 500GB and let it rebuild. the rebuilds take about 2.5hrs. |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 17,2009 1:43am - the_reverend ""] updated the fw in the 1.5TB drives. replaced a swapped the 1.5TB with a 1.5TB SD1A 12hrs to rebuild. |
| _______________________________________ [Jan 19,2009 11:37am - the_reverend ""] ok, seagate has a list of failed drives. looks like all my junk was also on a drive that is under seagate's failures. http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/19/seagate...recovery-for-disks-affected-by-fir/ |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 2,2009 12:33am - the_reverend ""] oh, I got 4x1.5TB running in it and you can get one for $340 after all is said and done. got to www.live.com, click cashback. then type "drobo". jr.com has it for $411 - 7% = $390 $50 MIR but I think they charge $11 to ship it. |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 2,2009 10:39pm - the_reverend ""] I clicked on it again and it went from $411 to $439.99. I emailed them and said that I'm not paying the extra and that I was going to pre-order another camera at the same time. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 4,2009 8:18pm - the_reverend ""] I just returned the 1tb HD that I bought at bestbuy. now I just need one of those 2tb drives! |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 7,2009 6:12pm - the_reverend ""] I start copying some files to it (like a 200GB and a 500GB that I'm trying to dump on it) left and came back. It had one of the 1.5TB's marked as failed. I replaced it with a 750GB, but kept my copies going. I think cause I'm copying data to it, the rebuild time keeps going up. 9hrs to 18hrs to 19hrs to 21hrs to 22hrs now. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 8,2009 1:05am - the_reverend ""] finally done building. 1x750gb 3x1.5tb |
| _______________________________________ [Feb 13,2009 10:41pm - the_reverend ""] put a firewire card in my win7 machine. it's acting weird. then I popped out the 750GB and popped in a 1.5TB that just came in the mail. the unit has 2.56TB of info on it and it's rebuilding. 30 hours to rebuild. |
| ______________________________________ [Apr 2,2009 10:07am - the_reverend ""] my win7 machine is fucking up! jesus... the thing hangs all the time while trying to delete from the drobo. I'm tempted to install winxp on that win7 machine and if it does a better jorb. |
| ______________________________________ [Apr 2,2009 10:07am - the_reverend ""] http://www.qnap.com/pro_detail_feature.asp?p_id=104 I also want that... |
| ______________________________________ [Apr 2,2009 10:12am - the_reverend ""] actually, I would love to get this http://www.qnap.com/pro_detail_feature.asp?p_id=109 |
| ______________________________________ [Apr 7,2009 11:06am - the_reverend ""] 8-bay http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/07/data-ro...ics-goes-large-with-8-bay-drobopro/ |
| _______________________________________ [Apr 10,2009 11:15am - the_reverend ""] I have my drobo for storage at my house. Besides all the rebooting, it's working well. Now, I need to have a device off site at my work. I'm still working out all my files and everything, but I've got my drobo backing things up and a set or bare-drives that stay dark except when I synch them whenever I think about it. options 1) get a QNAP 439 or 509 and bring the drobo to my work $800-ish (do I really need that much more control since I already have the drobo at home?) 2) get another drobo and bring it to my work $360-ish (then I have a drobo for 2 points of failure) 3) get a 5-bay RAID case $200-ish (why spend so much for something that has no smarts) 4) get a 775 quad core processor and replace the duocore on my desktop, some cheap 533 ram, RAID-card and a case and make a uRAID box. I have a motherboard sitting around doing nothing. ($300-is, but would take more time to set up and then do I bring the uRAID to work and leave the drobo at home?) 5) sit with my thumb in my bum |
| _______________________________________ [Apr 10,2009 7:24pm - watchmaker666 ""] ugh when does it end! |
| ______________________________________ [Apr 10,2009 7:27pm - the_reverend ""] it ends when I fill this void for offsite storage. but which one? uRAID could also be freenas. whatever |
| _______________________________________ [Apr 12,2009 11:00pm - the_reverend ""] http://www.qnap.com/pro_detail_hardware.asp?p_id=108 ok, I'm seriously thinking about that one. |
| _______________________________________ [Apr 12,2009 11:02pm - the_reverend ""] well, either that or the 439... the 639 says that it is limited to 1.5TB drives. the 439 doesn't. http://www.qnap.com/pro_detail_hardware.asp?p_id=110 |
| ______________________________________ [Apr 16,2009 2:03pm - the_reverend ""] ok, this is what I need: bennyhillifier yes, you pay a price, but over the cost of running a server with these drives, you save over $200 in electricity alone. Plus, I always will run crap on any computer I have. that means I will do things wrong and my storage will go down while I'm rebooting and then my back ups have to re-start. This is what is happening now whenever I try to back up RTTP from my linux server. with the qnap, I can rsync right to it. |
| _______________________________________ [Apr 16,2009 7:27pm - watchmaker666 ""] I was on board with you till I saw the price |