Do people like long songs?[views:4842][posts:40]_______________________________ [Feb 16,2009 3:27pm - SETH ""] Do long songs bore you or does it depend on the actual music of the song to make it good? Tempo, flow and mood and Vox?? |
| ______________________________ [Feb 16,2009 3:28pm - Yeti ""] as long as a band can keep a long song interesting, then i love them. i hate drawn out long songs. Drudkh, Opeth, Enslaved, Moonsorrow, all good at writing really long songs. |
| _______________________________ [Feb 16,2009 3:32pm - SETH ""] I know sometimes there are just riffs that could go on and on that we love to hear but would you hate them if the vox or solos, guitar or bass suck?? |
| ______________________________ [Feb 16,2009 3:35pm - Yeti ""] definitely, there are many elements that can boost or ruin it. i think the biggest one being vocals. |
| _______________________________ [Feb 16,2009 3:37pm - SETH ""] I agree about vocals. If they suck then it can actually make the song drag and make the song pull the vox to save it.. Yet, that is why sometimes vocals are or not important on long songs... Sometimes I find that with long songs you get to hear the music and get into it more without the vox or solos etc... Just me! |
| _____________________________ [Feb 16,2009 3:38pm - ha ""] you like long dicks |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 16,2009 3:39pm - Bob Barker ""] I love Meshuggah's endless songs but hate Neurosis for doing it. So I guess it depends on the music. Bands who only have songs under 1:00 are even trickier to me. It's like 'listen to this album with 35 songs' which is pretty much one long song with tiny breaks between tracks. |
| ___________________________________________ [Feb 16,2009 3:41pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] Light of Day, Day of Darkness is amazing |
| _______________________________ [Feb 16,2009 3:41pm - SETH ""] "ha" I dont know what you mean about long dicks, but I am talking about long songs... you know where musicians actually play instruments and not your instruments. |
| ______________________________ [Feb 16,2009 3:42pm - Lamp ""] Bob%20Barker said:Bands who only have songs under 1:00 are even trickier to me. It's like 'listen to this album with 35 songs' which is pretty much one long song with tiny breaks between tracks. With a lot of bands I listen to, 30 seconds to a minute is the ideal track size. |
| _________________________________ [Feb 16,2009 3:53pm - c.DeaD ""] It really depends. Deathspell Omega do it perfectly. They have 3 different 20 min. songs and you don't know how they make it work, but they do and you don't even realise 20 min. went by. |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 16,2009 3:55pm - dreadkill ""] FuckIsMySignature said:Light of Day, Day of Darkness is amazingi love LOD,DOD, but i feel like a couple of the transitions are rough and a couple parts are extraneous. overall, it's great though. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 16,2009 3:57pm - Bob Barker ""] Lamp said: Bob%20Barker said:Bands who only have songs under 1:00 are even trickier to me. It's like 'listen to this album with 35 songs' which is pretty much one long song with tiny breaks between tracks. With a lot of bands I listen to, 30 seconds to a minute is the ideal track size. Yeah they are cool I agree... but like isn't a band like Pig Destroyer or basically playing long songs with tiny breaks in the middle? When a random PD song comes up on shuffle, when it ends half the time I'm like 'why the fuck did the song stop playing?' cuz I'm so use to hearing the songs sandwiched together which is really like one long song. But I suppose there are other bands like Anal Cunt or something where I don't feel that way at all so I guess I have no point. :ralphie: |
| ________________________________________ [Feb 16,2009 4:26pm - thedeathdealer ""] FuckIsMySignature said:Light of Day, Day of Darkness is amazing I totally agree with this statement. |
| ______________________________ [Feb 16,2009 4:46pm - Lamp ""] Bob%20Barker said:Yeah they are cool I agree... but like isn't a band like Pig Destroyer or basically playing long songs with tiny breaks in the middle? I'm gonna disagree with that just because for the most part, I think stopping in the middle of a song is a sign of weakness. Occasionally it's done right but more often than not it just sounds like bands don't know how to transition. So I think the highest quality bands can blast through their shit, and the changes between songs are the only stops. |
| _______________________________________ [Feb 16,2009 4:55pm - boblovesmusic ""] I'm constantly drawn to long songs and majority of the time I love them. However once in awhile I'll come across one that sucks. Manowar's 20 minute "Achilles, Agony and Ecstasy in Eight Parts" is kinda awful (cue comments about Manowar sucking in general) and it took me awhile to appreciate Boris' Absolutego. |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 16,2009 4:58pm - dreadkill ""] as i've gotten older, my attention span has gotten shorter, so i don't enjoy long songs as much as i used to. when my band started almost 10 years ago, i wanted to write 7 or 8 minute songs most of the time, but now i'm happy with 4 minute songs. to me, 4 minutes is ideal, but i think a song should be as long or short as it needs to be to get its point across. some songs just need to be long. |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 16,2009 4:59pm - dreadkill ""] to sum it up, i don't really care how long a song is as long as it's well written and interesting from start to finish. |
| ________________________________________ [Feb 16,2009 5:07pm - josh_hates_you ""] boblovesmusic said: Manowar's 20 minute "Achilles, Agony and Ecstasy in Eight Parts" is kinda awful (cue comments about Manowar sucking in general) and it took me awhile to appreciate Boris' Absolutego. ha. manowar is awesome. i has metal warriors stuck in my head the other day. fuck im listening to it now..... |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 16,2009 5:42pm - i_am_not_me ""] Devil Doll FTW |
| _____________________________ [Feb 16,2009 5:45pm - pam ""] FuckIsMySignature said:Light of Day, Day of Darkness is amazing YES. This. Otherwise stfu after 6 minutes. |
| _______________________________________ [Feb 16,2009 5:46pm - boblovesmusic ""] i_am_not_me said:Devil Doll FTW AGREED 100%! |
| _________________________________________ [Feb 16,2009 7:05pm - orgymaggotfeast ""] Yeti said: Drudkh, Opeth, Enslaved, Moonsorrow, all really gay. fixed |
| _________________________________________ [Feb 16,2009 7:10pm - orgymaggotfeast ""] i don't care how long or short a song is. as long as i enjoy it from start to finish. Frank Zappa had a couple of half-hour long tunes. "Billy The Mountain" was an excellent one. i heard another Zappa tune that clocked in at about 28 minutes, and it was unbelivably bad....i don't even remember the name of it. just like there are great short songs (Napalm Death - The Kill, Suffer Now - Drive by, Anal Cunt- You Rollerblaing Faggot) and lame short songs (alot of the stupid shit Cephallic Carnage put between their "real songs" on their split with Anal Blast) |
| __________________________________________ [Feb 16,2009 9:43pm - MillenialKingdom ""] Usually anything over 5 minutes, I lose interest. But that's in general. It varies between bands. For example, if Moonsorrow songs were a lot shorter I don't think they would capture the essence of the band. |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 17,2009 9:00am - arilliusbm ""] It depends if it flows. My bands been deciding if we want to have a song less than 6 minutes long. So far all of ours are 8+min. |
| __________________________________________ [Feb 17,2009 9:03am - hypersludge_nli ""] meshuggah wrote a pretty cool long song or two. overall my attention span is that of a gold fish. give me one or two good riffs and repeat them once. |
| _________________________________ [Feb 17,2009 9:55am - Martins ""] http://www.myspace.com/orgoneus I challenge anyone to listen to Vomited Hyacinths and not be entertained the whole song. Thought I suppose 8:17 isn't tooooooo long. Oh and Edge of Sanity. Crimson. |
| _________________________________________ [Feb 17,2009 9:56am - Conservationist ""] SETH said:Do long songs bore you or does it depend on the actual music of the song to make it good? Tempo, flow and mood and Vox?? It depends on how the song is written. Otherwise you could do what some death metal bands do and just play the 3 minute song... again... and call the doubled song a longer work. Some bands do long songs really well. Skepticism, Burzum, Summoning. Others should not. |
| __________________________________ [Feb 17,2009 10:00am - RustyPS ""] Like other said, it all depends on the band....if a band can keep it interesting throughout, then long songs are great...if not, it's annoying |
| __________________________________ [Feb 17,2009 10:07am - c.DeAD ""] Martins said: Oh and Edge of Sanity. Crimson. Great example. |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 17,2009 10:17am - dreadkill ""] i agree with martinS and c.DEAD. crimson is great. |
| _______________________________ [Feb 17,2009 10:29am - Yeti ""] perfect example of someone doing it right, Burzum - Det Som En Gang Var. its pretty much the same painfully simple riff for 8 minutes, and then another riff for the remainder of the song, but it never ceases to amaze me. |
| _______________________________________ [Feb 17,2009 10:36am - swamplorddvm ""] I depends. Some bands write good songs too short sometimes. |
| ________________________________________ [Feb 17,2009 10:39pm - y_ddraig_goch ""] this thread makes me want to listen to my dying bride's "cry of mankind" |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 17,2009 10:43pm - bradmann ""] [img] |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 17,2009 10:44pm - bradmann ""] i love long songs |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 17,2009 10:44pm - archaeon ""] Works only for bands with a lot of atmosphere. A la not dream theater. |
| ________________________________ [Feb 17,2009 11:11pm - Seth ""] I will give Venom credit for "At War with Satan" about 13 mins when I started tolisten to them for a long song... back then... way back |
| __________________________________ [Feb 17,2009 11:22pm - Martins ""] archaeon said:Works only for bands with a lot of atmosphere. A la not dream theater. That makes no sense. |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 18,2009 9:13am - orgymf@work ""] Martins said: archaeon said:Works only for bands with a lot of atmosphere. A la not dream theater. That makes no sense. agreed. |