Finally getting my bass sound pretty close to almost right for the first time in 16 years APPREESH[views:3602][posts:31]_________________________________________ [Mar 10,2009 11:10am - DestroyYouAlot ""] What the title says. I've been playing this: LTD B155 [img] through this: AMPEG SVT3 PRO [img] into this: AMPEG CLASSIC 15" [img] and a crap Carvin 15" cab for some time, nao. The super warm/hot punchy mids are there in spades, and I've tweaked it a whole bunch lately to where I was really happy with that part of the sound, but that really excessive growly overdrive just wasn't there until I hit on the idea of putting this: TECH21 SANSAMP BASS DRIVER DI [img] in front of the amp. Drive close to full, presence backed off a bit, treble up a bit, bass backed off plenty, and tweak the blend to where the punch is there but backed up by the growl. WTF - totally psyched with the possibilties, here. I still need to tweak a bit before practice to find the right mix, but it sounds fucking gigantic, now. Chords are just mosntrous and warm, B-string play isn't rumbly and duck-fart-y, everything is lovely. PSYCHED. (To be fair, I just stole this from Alex Webster - saw that he was running a SansAmp in front of his SVT4 somewhere whilst trolling around trying to find a backup of the Bassists of Death forum, figured I'd try it. What I'm rocking now is pretty much a ghetto version of his setup. Which is just fine by me. Now just to find a cheap as free Ampeg 8x10. LOL) |
| _______________________________ [Mar 10,2009 11:26am - Blue ""] Youd have a lot easier time if you had some ten inch speakers in that rig. And dont count out a pickup change. |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 10,2009 11:29am - brian_dc ""] $500 http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/msg/1060130200.html could probably get that cheaper with patience though |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 10,2009 11:31am - DestroyYouAlot ""] IN B4 BLU- OSHIT |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 10,2009 11:35am - DrewBlood ""] 10 inch speakers with a sub low pass will give you usable low end down to 26hz. the difference is noticeable, especially if you plan on using a 5 string. ampeg 4x10 HLF por vida |
| __________________________________ [Mar 10,2009 11:37am - W3 nli ""] DestroyYouAlot said:IN B4 BLU- OSHIT LOL @ YOUR FAIL :BOUNCE2: |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 10,2009 11:41am - DestroyYouAlot ""] Yeah, 10 inchers would def be my preference, but new gear money is going to be a while in coming. Pickups might be a possibility in the near future, but that brings of back to the "active or no" debate. YER THOTS? |
| _______________________________ [Mar 10,2009 12:01pm - Blue ""] Well that giant reply i just typed out expired cus phone posting blows. Ill provide a response when i get in front of a real computer. |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 10,2009 12:23pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] FUCK, I KNOW, RIGHT?!? My original response to your response is off in phone post limbo. LOL |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 10,2009 12:33pm - destroyyoualot ""] BTW, Blue's Clues, your ever-vigilant gear feedback is much appreeshed. I almost want to lure you down to the Worcester space with some greenbacks/bud and have you solve all our problems, but our guitarist's ghetto rig might make your head asplode. LOL |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 10,2009 3:11pm - badsneakers ""] I have to say lucky you! I have yet to everfind the right sound for anything I do. I just keep buying bass gear.. |
| __________________________________ [Mar 10,2009 3:11pm - brian_dc ""] I'm afraid that the only correct bass tone involves Sunn 300t |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 10,2009 3:14pm - TheGreatSpaldino ""] seriously, the best tone i have ever had was from an 80's randall guitar head. it JUST shit the bed on me... but before that, it was the best metal bass tone i have ever had. it was being played through my shitty huge peavey 4x10 700 watt cab. |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 10,2009 3:17pm - TheGreatSpaldino ""] brian_dc said:I'm afraid that the only correct bass tone involves Sunn 300t you apparently havent played with any Eden heads before... |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 10,2009 3:18pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] The SansAmp gets a lot of love on the bass forums, and I agree. One of the only bass ODs I've heard that isn't trying to be a guitar pedal. Very versatile, as well. |
| ______________________________ [Mar 10,2009 3:19pm - Yeti ""] yeah Steve your bass was very audible at practice. |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 10,2009 3:19pm - TheGreatSpaldino ""] oh and triple post WUT?! but yeah... i'd say go with active preamp/passive pick ups. well since you are dirtying up your sound with the sans amp anyway... i guess active pick ups would be fine. i never really cared a whole lot for active bass pick ups. i always thought it was too much. *shrug* |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 10,2009 3:20pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] Yeti, you actually haven't heard this yet - whole new levels of snarly and gnarly. |
| ______________________________ [Mar 10,2009 3:22pm - Yeti ""] my loins are tingling with anticipation. |
| __________________________________ [Mar 10,2009 3:31pm - brian_dc ""] TheGreatSpaldino said: brian_dc said:I'm afraid that the only correct bass tone involves Sunn 300t you apparently havent played with any Eden heads before... I don't even play bass. I just know what's behind a lot of tones I enjoy. I just like a powerful, present tone. And the gain stage of that amp is crazy. I'm checking out Eden videos now. I can tell it's a sweet amp, but it's mostly this dude playing stock, clean funk bass lines at NAMM. Different amps for different things. |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 10,2009 4:09pm - narkybark ""] I'm still experimenting with my sound. Everytime I think I'm happy with it I change my mind. |
| ______________________________ [Mar 10,2009 5:44pm - Blue ""] my recommendation is to sell the carvin 1x15 (why you have 2 15s and no 10s is beyond me) and pick up a 2x10 cab to put on top. you'll have a hell of a lot easier time not muddying up your sound. as far as replacement pickups are concerned, you have only so many options because your bass is routed to take EMG pickups. i have a feeling you'd probably be satisfied with getting a set of EMG 40DCs in there, it'll give you all the output you'll need and youll mess yourself with how huge it'll sound with the sansamp. i'd recommend upgrading the preamp in the bass too if you're going to go that route though. basically its 2 choices: money to burn - EMGs, no money to burn - passives. |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 10,2009 6:36pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] Blue said:my recommendation is to sell the carvin 1x15 (why you have 2 15s and no 10s is beyond me) and pick up a 2x10 cab to put on top. you'll have a hell of a lot easier time not muddying up your sound.[/IMG] Why 2 15s is just 'cause that's what I stumbled into for no money. *shrug* Not ideal, but it makes the loud. That's definitely in my game plan, though. [IMG]as far as replacement pickups are concerned, you have only so many options because your bass is routed to take EMG pickups. i have a feeling you'd probably be satisfied with getting a set of EMG 40DCs in there, it'll give you all the output you'll need and youll mess yourself with how huge it'll sound with the sansamp. i'd recommend upgrading the preamp in the bass too if you're going to go that route though. basically its 2 choices: money to burn - EMGs, no money to burn - passives. Blue, you have stock in a 9v battery manufacturer, don't you? LOL Thanks, dude. I'll look into it. |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 10,2009 10:14pm - DrewBlood ""] brian_dc said: TheGreatSpaldino said: brian_dc said:I'm afraid that the only correct bass tone involves Sunn 300t you apparently havent played with any Eden heads before... I don't even play bass. I just know what's behind a lot of tones I enjoy. I just like a powerful, present tone. And the gain stage of that amp is crazy. I'm checking out Eden videos now. I can tell it's a sweet amp, but it's mostly this dude playing stock, clean funk bass lines at NAMM. Different amps for different things. i agree with brian |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 10,2009 10:31pm - ArilliusBM ""] steve, are you still making me my wooden pedal board? LOL |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 10,2009 10:35pm - jimboNLI ""] jim... thought you weren't posting anymore sir? |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 10,2009 11:49pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] ArilliusBM said:steve, are you still making me my wooden pedal board? LOL SRSLY, talk to me in the springtime. Once it's not fucking freezing in my basement I should have a pretty decent workshop set up. |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 11,2009 12:48am - metalguy_2 ""] Ampeg SVT MesaBoogie 400+ These two amplifiers will make you sound like god... |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 11,2009 12:49am - metalguy_2 ""] Wasn't impressed by the Sunn bass amplifier at all |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 11,2009 1:04am - metalguy_2 ""] btw i will sell a fender 2x10 for cheap, it is beat up but it will definitely round your sound out.. thebleedingpromotions@gmail.com |
| ______________________________ [Mar 11,2009 1:25am - BSV ""] my LTD is beat to hell right now...neck is just plain ole fucked. she's been through ALOT! |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 11,2009 6:30am - badsneakers ""] metalguy_2 said:Ampeg SVT MesaBoogie 400+ These two amplifiers will make you sound like god... well the ampeg svtcl are not worth the money but i fully endorse the 400+ I'm currently digging on my peavey classic 400 but i killed my sunn 2000s on monday |