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[QUOTE="RustyPS:903734"][QUOTE="the_taste_of_cigarettes:903728"][QUOTE="Murph:903722"][QUOTE="the_taste_of_cigarettes:903716"](sigh) I really really wish I could like this or any other "new" Converge since When Forever Comes Crashing and Petitioning... are two of my favorite all time albums. That band, during the "two guitarist" years was pretty amazing and the writing was exceptional. I just can't get into anything after Jane Doe, and sometimes not even 'Doe. I think I have to just give up hope that that "sound" will come back, and admit they've "evolved". That's what I had to do with Tool.[/QUOTE] NO HEROES is just so well done, and the rhythm section of that band is pretty much perfect now...I think they really started to experiment with their rhythmic talents on Jane Doe, and it has evolved into something so awesome and powerful since then.[/QUOTE] I just feel they took the "raw" element out and sub'd in tightness and Bridge9 style hardcore parts. Comparing WFCC to the new stuff, you can hear the old stuff benefited from the looseness and naive approach to recording. It was like 5 guys breaking their instruments, whereas the new stuff is like a metallic hardcore band. It's like early BSI versus the newest Trap Them! stuff. Total switch to modern hardcore.[/QUOTE] we've talked about this before, and I wholeheartedly disagree....I honestly don't hear the "B9 Hardcore style" in either Converge or Trap Them....both bands are obviously rooted in Hardcore, but I just don't hear anything in either band comparable to something like Have Heart or Energy[/QUOTE]
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