Evidence of shitty attitudes in the "promotion" business
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[Mar 28,2009 3:47pm - MillenialKingdom ""]
[15:34] yo
[15:34] just because i sheel out hundreds does not mean i dont know what im doing
[15:34] im succesful at this
[15:34] MillenialKingdom: according to you, you lose out on local bands all the time
[15:35] very succesful and ur saying my shows are not great
[15:35] MillenialKingdom: you should stop throwing bands under the bus
[15:35] I do
[15:35] because they bail
[15:35] i loose on them
[15:35] MillenialKingdom: ive NEVER bailed on you
[15:35] In this business
[15:35] MillenialKingdom: ive been loyal to you since ive known you
[15:35] im not looking for friends
[15:35] i look out for my family
[15:35] just because i dont book bands that play d and d
[15:35] does not make me a bad business person
[15:36] i hate that shit
[15:36] ppl need to get over it
[15:36] metal does not work up here
[15:36] its all shitty
[15:36] peave
[15:36] peace
[15:36] im out
[15:36] MillenialKingdom: come on, dude, chill out
[15:36] MillenialKingdom: we're talking about this
[15:37] MillenialKingdom: we're talking about the business, not personal things
[15:37] MillenialKingdom: i worked for you to get some experience in it and while i gained a tremendous amount of insight, i dont always agree with how you do it
[15:37] MillenialKingdom: its not a big deal
[15:38] its not a big deal
[15:38] but u did not learn a thing from me if this is how u feel
[15:38] MillenialKingdom: you should put yourself in some of these bands shoes and think about how you would feel if someone like you was constantly ripping on local bands
[15:38] asking bands to bring 10 people?
[15:38] u hated that?
[15:38] MillenialKingdom: no
[15:38] MillenialKingdom: it was the tickets thing
[15:38] that was our fucking job
[15:38] hey just bring ur shitty music
[15:38] MillenialKingdom: i didnt like doing it when i had my band and i said i wasnt going to
[15:38] we will bus the people in for u
[15:39] u did sell for us
[15:39] dont u remember
[15:39] MillenialKingdom: its your job as a promoter to get people in the door too, you know
[15:39] of course
[15:39] i do my job
[15:39] MillenialKingdom: yea, i sold a couple but i didnt like it
[15:39] but its 90% bands
[15:39] my job is this
[15:39] Rent the venue
[15:39] MillenialKingdom: youre always talking about how shitty local bands are
[15:39] hire staff
[15:39] MillenialKingdom: why the hell do you book them then?
[15:39] promote ths show
[15:39] MillenialKingdom: thats why i think its only about the money to you
[15:39] It is about money
[15:40] U got it
[15:40] 100%
[15:40] MillenialKingdom: Myspace is not the only place to advertise
[15:40] thats why i dont book bands u like
[15:40] of course its not dude
[15:40] im everywherre
[15:40] MillenialKingdom: yea, like where
[15:40] ur just stuck on rttp
[15:40] MillenialKingdom: what do you do for your shows besides Myspace, Dave
[15:40] MillenialKingdom: you have your minions do it for you!
[15:40] MillenialKingdom: if you didnt have the help, i dont think you would last honestly
[15:40] Dont ? me dude, i get local shows to sell .
[15:41] Thanks dude
[15:41] good luck with your metal shows
[15:41] later
[15:41] MillenialKingdom: haha im just saying, you cant do it all alone
[15:41] MillenialKingdom: you should give other people the credit
[15:41] MillenialKingdom: its not just about you
[15:41] MillenialKingdom: its about the people that come to your shows
[15:41] MillenialKingdom: including me
[15:41] MillenialKingdom: i am a fan
[15:41] MillenialKingdom: i pay money to get into your shows
[15:41] MillenialKingdom: you should give a shit about the fans
[15:42] MillenialKingdom: you shouldnt become jaded after 2 years
[15:42] MillenialKingdom: stop getting pissy with me and just have a conversation about this
[15:42] MillenialKingdom: im not saying i dont support you
[15:42] MillenialKingdom: if i didnt, i wouldnt keep coming to Rockos
[15:42] the last thing i care about is the fan
[15:42] i care about what sells dude
[15:42] thats it
[15:42] MillenialKingdom: wow, see thats the wrong attitude!
[15:42] i do have ppl that help me
[15:43] MillenialKingdom: if you dont know what your fans like, they wont come to shows!
[15:43] i pay them well
[15:43] Sorry im not like u
[15:43] this is a business and their are plenty of clients
[15:43] MillenialKingdom: it shouldnt be just a business to you
[15:43] MillenialKingdom: you should have a lot more passion than that
[15:43] just because i book brokencyde
[15:43] does not make me a bad person
[15:43] MillenialKingdom: i didnt say it did
[15:43] i booked them because i made 1500.00 in one night
[15:44] i have a ton of passion
[15:44] more than u know bro
[15:44] MillenialKingdom: look, Dave, i understand you need this to support your family but your attitude sucks
[15:44] i have so much passion that rockos is still around
[15:44] for bands to play at
[15:44] in this state u sad cafe, ground zero and rockos
[15:45] give me a fucking break,. Now im late
[15:45] later
[15:45] MillenialKingdom: this conversation isnt over
[15:45] MillenialKingdom: peace
[Mar 28,2009 3:53pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]
i'm not reading that
[Mar 28,2009 3:56pm - MillenialKingdom ""]
You should.
[Mar 28,2009 3:59pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]
i ended up reading it
[15:43] xIMxTHIRSTY: just because i book brokencyde
[15:43] xIMxTHIRSTY: does not make me a bad person
LOLOLOLOLOLOL
[Mar 28,2009 4:10pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""]
It's all about the money
I lose money for two years on shows
LADIES AND MENTLEGEN, COGNITIVE DISSONANCE!
[Mar 28,2009 4:15pm - Kevord ""]
I heard Brokencyde last night for the first time. Holy shit, that has to be the worst "band" in the history of music.
[Mar 28,2009 4:18pm - Kevord ""]
bennyhillifier
[Mar 28,2009 4:22pm - the_reverend ""]
I read the brokencyde part.
I tell you what, if putting broken side banners all over RTTP gave me $1500 in one night? I would do it until my mortgage was paid off.
[Mar 28,2009 4:24pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]
i like moneys giveme the moneys
[Mar 28,2009 4:28pm - RichHorror ""]
Two faggots having a spat about who gets to be on top.
[Mar 28,2009 4:29pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]
ITT: Rich Horror gets things done
[Mar 28,2009 4:38pm - Kevord ""]
RichHorror said:Two faggots having a spat about who gets to be on top.
He shoots he scores.
[Mar 28,2009 4:41pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""]
RichHorror said:Two faggots having a spat about who gets to be on top.
OOOOOOOOH SHIT
[Mar 28,2009 4:42pm - RichHorror ""]
FIGHT ME U WONT
[Mar 28,2009 6:09pm - yummy ""]
THIS THREAD RAPED ME
[Mar 28,2009 6:20pm - archaeon ""]
Is this suppose to be surprising? Exactly what I would expect to come out of this guys mouth.
If you get into local music promotion to support your family. You're an idiot and on top of that he doesn't even seem to enjoy what he does. If he this was 2001 he'd be booking nu-metal bands.
[Mar 28,2009 6:24pm - Lamp ""]
Anybody with half a brain should realize you can make way more money with a day job than as a promoter.
[Mar 28,2009 6:26pm - archaeon ""]
Lamp said:Anybody with half a brain should realize you can make way more money with a day job than as a promoter.
Exactly, If anything he's hurting his family more by carrying on this business.
Get a real job, hippie.
[Mar 28,2009 6:43pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""]
I guess his day job doing stunts for Little Richard in gay movies isn't as lucrative as he makes it out to be.
[Mar 28,2009 7:53pm - MillenialKingdom ""]
RichHorror said:FIGHT ME U WONT
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[Mar 28,2009 7:57pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""]
MillenialKingdom said:
RichHorror said:FIGHT ME U WONT
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I saw a movie about that once
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[Mar 28,2009 8:00pm - MillenialKingdom ""]
Why does that movie look awesome?
[Mar 28,2009 8:38pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""]
There should be a movie about Forest Whitaker's saggy right eyelid.
[Mar 28,2009 9:13pm - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""]
MarkFuckingRichards said:There should be a movie about Forest Whitaker's saggy right eyelid.
Co-starring Gary Busey's deformed eye
[Mar 28,2009 9:40pm - Lamp ""]
Finding Forrester Whitaker
You're the man now dog!
[Mar 28,2009 9:40pm - MillenialKingdom ""]
Apparently, I'm guilty of slander now.
Is it really slander if the person incriminated themselves? I didn't make any of it up.
[Mar 28,2009 9:58pm - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""]
Go here and read the page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defamation
or tl:dr version because I went to school for this and don't feel like explaining how this shit breaks down.
Most people who throw a fit and claim they're suing you for slander or libel or whatever are just whiny faggots butthurt over losing an argument. Tell him to call a lawyer because any firm he calls will laugh and hang up on him.
When it comes to defamation truth is an absolute defense, so Ally McThirsty threatening you with legal action via AIM over slander (which, by the way, wouldn't be the correct tort as this message board is a fixed, rather than transitory, media. Score another point for Ally McThirsty there) is wasting their time bitching because they don't have a legal leg to stand on. It also shows that his knowledge of defamation law is as "extensive" as his knowledge of promotion.
[Mar 28,2009 10:03pm - MillenialKingdom ""]
He said since it was a private conversation, I was supposed to have asked his permission to post the convo. He claims to have a lawyer.
I only posted what he said to make a point about the shitty state of the music industry. His attitude about money and bands is shit.
[Mar 28,2009 10:04pm - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""]
He's lying
thread closed
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[Mar 28,2009 10:05pm - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""]
Oh wait, HAVE YOUR LAWYER POST ON RTTP OR YOU ARE A PUSSY
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[Mar 28,2009 10:08pm - anonymous ""]
In law, defamation (also called calumny, libel, slander, and vilification) is the communication of a statement that makes a claim, expressly stated or implied to be factual, that may give an individual, business, product, group, government or nation a negative image. It is often, but not always,[1] a requirement that this claim be false, and, or alternatively, that the publication is made to someone other than the person defamed.
[Mar 28,2009 10:09pm - MillenialKingdom ""]
Haha
[Mar 28,2009 10:11pm - fucku ""]
Who is this dude mr thirsty?
[Mar 28,2009 11:47pm - the_reverend ""]
whether or not I believe that you should have posted this, only one side of a convo needs to agree to share a conversation. and once it's out there, it can be used by media sources.
[Mar 29,2009 12:02am - DestroyYouAlot ""]
What's this bullshit about not booking bands that play D&D? LOL
[Mar 29,2009 12:21am - xanonymousx ""]
dude who cares who he books, hes music business person, he knows what is hot right now, personally i hate that brokencyde group, but whatever man a lot of the kids like it.
if i was putting on shows for a living, i'd book a show that would make a lot of kids come and sell the place out, thats what it all comes down too. brokencyde will sell out. if paying to play for brokencyde would get your band a lot of exposure, wouldn't you like it? at least a little bit.
but whatever, if metallica was pay to play at rockos you would be running to play that shit...
idk whatever.
[Mar 29,2009 12:21am - archaeon ""]
MillenialKingdom said:He said since it was a private conversation, I was supposed to have asked his permission to post the convo. He claims to have a lawyer.
LOL
tell him to go fuck himself. I'm sure with the $3.50 he has leftover after the bills are paid goes right towards suing you for him being an asshole.
[Mar 29,2009 12:25am - MillenialKingdom ""]
xanonymousx said:dude who cares who he books, hes music business person, he knows what is hot right now, personally i hate that brokencyde group, but whatever man a lot of the kids like it.
if i was putting on shows for a living, i'd book a show that would make a lot of kids come and sell the place out, thats what it all comes down too. brokencyde will sell out. if paying to play for brokencyde would get your band a lot of exposure, wouldn't you like it? at least a little bit.
but whatever, if metallica was pay to play at rockos you would be running to play that shit...
idk whatever.
Well sure but his attitude about LOCAL music and everything else still sucks. He would fit in great with Mark's Showplace.
[Mar 29,2009 12:48am - MarkFuckingRichards ""]
I'm not an expert and am not stating this as fact or anything, but I'm pretty sure he'd only have a case if the conversation in question was audio recorded. I also don't feel like looking that shit up because I don't give enough shits about it, to be honest.
Keep in mind that you have 24 hours to edit your original post, so if you feel you're better safe than sorry, you can just take that shit right out of the original post and baddabing baddaboom, case closed.
Also, people who want to make a living off of music should NOT, I repeat SHOULD NOT, rely on underground music regardless of genre. That's just fucking common sense, plain and simple.
[Mar 29,2009 2:39am - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""]
the_reverend said:whether or not I believe that you should have posted this, only one side of a convo needs to agree to share a conversation. and once it's out there, it can be used by media sources.
Winner winner chicken dinner.
Ally McBeal keeps changing his story on why he's suing you, he's lying his ass off trying to intimidate you all over a POST ON RTTP
Let that sink in.
[Mar 29,2009 2:43am - the_reverend ""]
I almost got sued over a nude picture as a secondary content provider.
[Mar 29,2009 2:46am - Kevord ""]
If you have the ability to close threads now Rev use it here. This entire thread is gayer than Freddy Mercury's rotted asshole.
[Mar 29,2009 2:54am - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""]
The SN edited out from the initial post is xIMxTHIRSTY, AIM away /r/tards
[Mar 29,2009 6:01am - ANON ""]
ANON is pretty confident that there is zero money to be made in promoting/playing any kind of music worth the time to listen to. If you're in it for money you are ...[drum role...]... a fucking moron.
[Mar 29,2009 7:30am - thirsty ""]
Brandon is an immature little brat that still beleives that Marks Showplace is open. He posted our conversation not because he wants to tell people im a horrible person but because he NEEDS attention.
Everyone that has something to say against me FUCK YOURSELF i dont give two shits.
Yes i loose money on local bands and yes i will tell you if your band sucks ( The cadaveric manifesto ) that does not make me someone who does not support local music, In two years ive put on countless local shows and supported many local bands. However i book tours, and thats where i make 90% of the money to keep going.
I do this for a job and everyone who says something about it is just pissed cuz their shift starts at 3pm today at McDonalds.
Brandon you have been to 2 shows in the last year and u still think Marks does shows... U really think u support local music?
BobNOMAAMRooney hit me up aim, I will tell you the same thing . FUCK YOU HATER!!! and u can go post it up on RTTP sound good? But finish up your D and D game first...
FUCK ALL THE HATERS.
[Mar 29,2009 7:47am - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""]
Try playing these modules the next time your level 2 butthurt promoter who couldn't make money selling watermelon and grape soda in Dudley Square wants to sue someone
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[Mar 29,2009 7:52am - thirsty ""]
BobNOMAAMRooney GO FUCK YOURSELF!
[Mar 29,2009 7:52am - thirsty ""]
Anyone else i will be here all day
[Mar 29,2009 9:06am - MarkFuckingRichards ""]
No one in this thread knows shit about promoting unless they've booked Steven Seagal.
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WITH A PANDA
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[Mar 29,2009 9:09am - thirsty ""]
Haha, ok. I agree with you on this one.
[Mar 29,2009 9:13am - MarkFuckingRichards ""]
Damn straight. And you're welcome.
[Mar 29,2009 9:13am - thirsty ""]
Thank you!
[Mar 29,2009 9:16am - MarkFuckingRichards ""]
Just doing my job, sir.
[Mar 29,2009 10:04am - BILLY MAYS HERE /w COLD BEER ""]
MarkFuckingRichards said:No one in this thread knows shit about promoting unless they've booked Steven Seagal.
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YOU WIN THIS ROUND. THIS POST IS ON THE BALL!
[Mar 29,2009 10:24am - degenerate bastard ""]
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[Mar 29,2009 12:07pm - MillenialKingdom ""]
2 shows in the past year? You're retarded. Just because I didn't go to Rocko's doesn't mean I didn't go to shows.
[Mar 29,2009 2:27pm - Murph ""]
I drank way too much last night.
Delicious bagels are delicious.
[Mar 29,2009 2:30pm - MillenialKingdom ""]
What kind of bagel was it?
[Mar 29,2009 2:33pm - DestroyYouAlot ""]
BobNOMAAMRooney%20nli said:Try playing these modules the next time your level 2 butthurt promoter who couldn't make money selling watermelon and grape soda in Dudley Square wants to sue someone
Ahhh, the classic Butthurthawk saga:
TEMPLE OF ELEMENTAL BUTTHURT
SCOURGE OF THE IM POSTERS
AGAINST THE TROLLS
DESCENT TO THE DEPTHS OF THE INTERNET LAWYER
[Mar 29,2009 2:46pm - archaeon ""]
So many things to say. I shall say nothing and go play D&D instead.
[Mar 29,2009 2:47pm - RustyPS ""]
ANYONE GOT A 12-SIDED DIE?!?!?!?!?!?!?
[Mar 29,2009 3:33pm - archaeon ""]
Apparently the dudes who wear make up and girls clothes are cooler than dudes who play D&D.
[Mar 29,2009 3:39pm - RustyPS ""]
they're both pretty lame IMO
[Mar 29,2009 3:45pm - pam ""]
I have no idea what's going on right now.
[Mar 29,2009 3:51pm - archaeon ""]
RustyPS said:they're both pretty lame IMO
Everyone who I know who play D&D are fucking awesome. I can't say the same for girl pants.