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Right-wing/left-wing: what do they mean?

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[Apr 23,2009 3:38pm - Conservationist ""]

The right wing, who are inherently collectivists, realize that the individual never trumps the group; as part of this, they deign to subsidize those who do not contribute to the group.

The left wing, who are inherently individualists, say that no individual should ever be subjected to torture, even if the collective is threatened, because the principle of being immune to society is most important.

http://www.amerika.org/2009/social-reality/we-live-on-different-planets/



This seems historically accurate in a de Toqueville or Huntington sense. However, it suggests that the American conservatives are off-base and trying to be liberal, and that's why they always run into logical paradoxes while demanding individual freedom yet higher defense spending, greater infrastructure, supply-side economics, etc.
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[Apr 23,2009 3:40pm - Yeti ""]
at this point, the only thing in society that sticks to truly "right wing" and "left wing" is poultry.
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[Apr 23,2009 3:42pm - ouchdrummer ""]
i like dark meat.
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[Apr 23,2009 3:53pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]
its all complete bullshit. just a distraction to sidetrack the masses from the real shitstorm that is slowly rotting there lives away.
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[Apr 23,2009 5:23pm - Conservationist ""]

Yeti said:at this point, the only thing in society that sticks to truly "right wing" and "left wing" is poultry.


Maybe these terms just need re-inventing.

After all, the principle is clear: collective (including non-shithead individuals) or individual (which requires you include everyone especially whiny shitheads)?
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[Apr 23,2009 5:44pm - metal_church101 ""]
They refer to positions of a hockey team when they are on the ice.
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[Apr 23,2009 6:05pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""]
Joey Juneau is the all time leader in assists by a left-wing in a single season.
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[Apr 23,2009 7:21pm - BILLY MAYS HERE /w SOMEDAY PROV.  ""]


It means you're fucking gay.
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[Apr 23,2009 9:37pm - Conservationist ""]
It's not gay if you punch them out after you come.
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[Apr 23,2009 10:57pm - sever ""]

BILLY%20MAYS%20HERE%20/w%20SOMEDAY%20PROV. said:

It means you're fucking gay.



:point:
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[Apr 24,2009 9:57am - eddienli  ""]
If you want an picture of the future imagin a boot stamped on a human face----forever.
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[Apr 24,2009 2:12pm - Conservationist ""]
Or a human stamping its own face through sheer stupidity.
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[Apr 24,2009 2:13pm - xmikex ""]
Red Wings?
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[Apr 24,2009 2:40pm - Beorht-Dana ""]

Conservationist said:it suggests that the American conservatives are off-base and trying to be liberal, and that's why they always run into logical paradoxes while demanding individual freedom yet higher defense spending, greater infrastructure, supply-side economics, etc.



I think that's a pretty accurate statement. It definitely applies to what most people refer to as the "Neo-Conservative" Republicans.
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[Apr 24,2009 2:47pm - dreadkill ""]

BobNOMAAMRooney said:Joey Juneau is the all time leader in assists by a left-wing in a single season.
a few minutes before i read this, two guys at work were talking and one guy told the other he won an autographed joe juneau hockey stick the other day. weird.
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[Apr 24,2009 5:53pm - Conservationist ""]

Beorht-Dana said:
Conservationist said:it suggests that the American conservatives are off-base and trying to be liberal, and that's why they always run into logical paradoxes while demanding individual freedom yet higher defense spending, greater infrastructure, supply-side economics, etc.



I think that's a pretty accurate statement. It definitely applies to what most people refer to as the "Neo-Conservative" Republicans.



They aren't going to win by out-"freedom"ing the left. The left offers "freedom" (if you don't define your terms, you win) plus a welfare state.

They also haven't convinced any of the more traditional conservatives, so they're stuck with pentacostals and apocalyptics.


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