Jay Severin suspended for comments about mexicans
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[May 1,2009 6:22am - the_reverend ""]
http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2009/04/_jay_severin.html
I heard the comments on the air and thought they were a little much... but not too out of line with what he typically says. Curtis Sliwa was the replacement and he's kind of an idiot.
[May 1,2009 7:39am - BILLY MAYS HERE /w SOMEDAY PROV. ""]
I ENJOY JAY, BUT HAL TURNER IS MUCH BETTER.
[May 1,2009 8:31am - largefreakatzero ""]
"Jay Severin, the fiery, right-wing radio talk show host on Boston’s WTKK-FM radio station, was suspended today after calling Mexican immigrants "criminaliens," “primitives,” “leeches,” and “women with mustaches and VD,” among other incendiary comments. "
Severin is an idiot, but none of the above sounds incorrect.
[May 1,2009 8:52am - Martins ""]
He's called them criminaliens for ages. Yesterday he just said that American emergency rooms are like condos or whatever.
I just don't get the FCC. Mexicans aren't even Americans. Who cares?
[May 1,2009 8:55am - BlackoutRick ""]
Really, who gives a fuck. Jay's a hippie and I can't stand his conservative stances but I don't think he deserved this.
[May 1,2009 9:13am - the_reverend ""]
it wasn't the FCC that suspended him. the FCC can't do that (1995 deregulation). It was WTKK that suspended him. the "women with mustaches and VD" comment was hilarious. The other stuff he's said plenty of other times. This show he was very outspoken about how mexicians come to the US only to spread disease. It's not that they were "out there" but a lot of them seemed "out of place" even for this douche.
It would be like this convo going on
"so we are talking about the gay marriage bill before the NH house. ALL HOMOS ARE FAGGOTS AND GOD PUNISHED THEM WITH AIDS AND NOW THEY ARE PUNISHING US WITH AIDS AND THAT'S ALL THAT THEY CAN DO. So the NH house are a bunch of liberal domestic enemies of the constitution."
[May 1,2009 9:15am - the_reverend ""]
and all that is going to happen to him is he will get more popular with the worst and dimmest. The picture that FOX25 showed of him was so horrible it made me lulz.
[May 1,2009 9:18am - Martins ""]
Listening to him is so awesome. I don't agree with him but it's entertaining as fuck.
[May 1,2009 9:34am - ouchdrummer ""]
entertaining, sure... and don't get me wrong, i think people should be allowed to say what they want. But the shit this guy said (says regularly) IS racist, hateful, and usually plain ol crazy.
[May 1,2009 9:38am - the_reverend ""]
true that.
[May 1,2009 9:39am - the_reverend ""]
and his listeners are as entertaining as watching a retarded kid do math.
[May 1,2009 9:52am - DestroyYouAlot ""]
He's a giant douche, but TKK is apparently a bunch of pussies. Way to stand behind your convictions, ladies. OMG, DIAL-A-MATTRESS MIGHT PULL THEIR AD, WHAT WILL WE DO?!?
[May 1,2009 9:55am - largefreakatzero ""]
Right? Like Mexicans would use mattresses anyway.
[May 1,2009 9:56am - the_reverend ""]
pull out couches have mattresses too.
[May 1,2009 10:05am - goatcatalyst ""]
Fuck this honky faggot.
I LOVE LATIN BOOTY!!!
[May 1,2009 10:05am - largefreakatzero ""]
Yeah, but back seats of Corollas don't.
[May 1,2009 10:06am - anonymous ""]
This is the American continent, anyone born here or in Argentina makes them an American, if you want to call them south Americans go for it, then consider yourself as North American not American...Makes sense? Criminaliens is the best nick ever...hahaha:point:
[May 1,2009 10:10am - Martins ""]
SEMANTICS
[May 1,2009 10:13am - the_reverend ""]
schemantics
[May 1,2009 10:15am - DestroyYouAlot ""]
SYMANTECS
[May 1,2009 10:17am - Martins ""]
Vtechs
[May 1,2009 10:21am - DestroyYouAlot ""]
PC TECHS
[May 1,2009 10:33am - ouchdrummer ""]
"Severin also has been criticized over the years for falsely saying he had won a Pulitzer Prize and that he had earned a master’s degree from Boston University"
That's hilarious, i've heard him say he earned a masters from BU.
[May 1,2009 10:47am - FuckIsMySignature ""]
he has a BS in BS
[May 1,2009 10:49am - ouchdrummer ""]
i get it.
[May 1,2009 12:48pm - narkybark ""]
I'm amused how he tries to act like a ladies' man, when in reality he looks like a coked-out vampire. Theater of the mind!
[May 1,2009 1:05pm - Yeti ""]
eh, they're just mexicans.
[May 1,2009 1:19pm - xmikex ""]
Once Dial-A-Mattress pulls their ads Sullivan Tire, and Toodies Jewelers are right behind them. Next thing you know you're giving an HJ to the Empire Carpet guy just to keep on the air.
That's a little lesson in the biz, kids.
[May 1,2009 2:30pm - the_reverend ""]
OH NOES THEN WHAT ABOUT BUSY DOG?
[May 1,2009 2:56pm - DYA NLI ""]
IT'S ALL COMING DOWN
[May 1,2009 3:12pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""]
I'd find his show more entertaining if it was two hours of Dan The Beast Severn giving Jay a vicious beating, I even have a title for it "Severn on Severin" WTKK should give me a million dollars.
[May 1,2009 4:30pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""]
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[May 1,2009 4:38pm - Kevord ""]
Obviously the guys a racist and you'd think the conservative movement would try to distance themselves from these kinds of lunatics. The funny part is I agree with what he was trying to say about people crossing the border. I just don't agree with acting like they're not human beings.
[May 1,2009 5:40pm - the_reverend ""]
ITT: some people say, Kevord's heart grew 3 sizes that day
[May 1,2009 7:31pm - monster_island ""]
Martins said:He's called them criminaliens for ages. Yesterday he just said that American emergency rooms are like condos or whatever.
I just don't get the FCC. Mexicans aren't even Americans. Who cares?
true .. they cant even get my order right at taco bell ...
if Charo doesnt care then i dont either
[May 1,2009 7:46pm - zyklon ""]
I can't speak for everyone but not all illegal immigrants are criminals, most of them are good people. the guy should be fired
[May 1,2009 11:46pm - ouchdrummer ""]
^^^ i agree, i'm married to one. And she pays taxes, works really hard for very little money, and has been constantly trying to become a citizen but even after i married her it's a long long road.
[May 2,2009 2:17am - AndrewBastard ""]
Jay is the fucking man.
He's all for LEGAL aliens. LEGAL is the key word here, people. What's that word again? LEGAL.
People in this country ILLEGALLY are criminals and aliens hence his coining the phrase CRIMALIENS.
It's just a clever shtick that he enjoys using. LIBERALS are supposed to equal FREEDOM OF SPEECH.
aren't they?
[May 2,2009 2:21am - Hungtableed ""]
Freedom speech anyone?
I don't take either party these days, all politicians are scum. However, it's the fucking liberals and their seeeeeeeeensitivity that's going to ruin this country. Google "The fairness doctrine" - 'nuff said. They suck and fail at talk radio so they want to make it law for radio hosts to give liberal talking points too just to be faaaaaaaaaaair to them...we wouldn't want to hurt their feelings now, would we?
[May 2,2009 3:07am - BobNOMAAMRooney ""]
A private enterprise has the right to fire anyone in its employ if that person's conduct harms their business. Severin's "right to free speech" ends as soon as advertisers threaten to pull ads on WTKK.
[May 2,2009 3:23am - RichHorror ""]
It's all horseshit. Regardless of what you think of Jay, he was clearly hired for his incendiary speech. He was only doing what he got hired for. Fuck everyone.
[May 2,2009 3:52am - ouchdrummer nli ""]
AndrewBastard Said:
"Jay is the fucking man.
He's all for LEGAL aliens. LEGAL is the key word here, people. What's that word again? LEGAL.
People in this country ILLEGALLY are criminals and aliens hence his coining the phrase CRIMALIENS.
It's just a clever shtick that he enjoys using. LIBERALS are supposed to equal FREEDOM OF SPEECH.
aren't they?"
So let me ask you this, how do you think one becomes legal? Do you think you can just apply, wait, then get in? Or do you think all you have to do is marry an American? If not, how do you think someone comes in legally? If you don't have a relative here, and aren't a student, you have basically no chance whatsoever of being accepted. And i don't know about you, but if i were born in a third world country, and my options were to live in poverty and not be able to support myself or my family, or go to another country that has more resources, jobs, and opportunities than would EVER be available to me..i think i would try to get accepted legally into that country.... only to realize that getting INTO that country without close relatives already being citizens is near impossible, and if I did get accepted, I'd have to wait 5-10years (still very rare)to actually move there, i am pretty sure i would take a chance and try to sneak in.
My reasoning would probably go something like this... Why shouldn't i have the chance to work hard and actually support myself and the ones i love? Because i wasn't born in the country? Wait a minute, i thought the US was started entirely by immigrants? Well, besides the Native Americans that the "immigrants" slaughtered to near genocide, but that's off the topic. Because i wouldn't want to slaughter anyone, i just want a chance to work hard, to pay my taxes.. ya know, have something that resembles a normal life..
Complain all you want about immigrants taking jobs from "Real Americans" But i still haven't met a single American who was upset because his job cleaning dishes was taken by immigrants. Sure maybe people are angry with immigrants for working for less money than is the norm for a given profession (almost always labor, it's probably pretty hard to get an office job without papers.) but again, anyone could do that, you could go out and work for less than an immigrant and take all their work, but you wouldn't want to because you would feel "cheated". Because your an American and you should be paid more than a wetback... or if you don't feel that way, why should you have the right to the job and they don't?
Let's look at a similar situation. Cars used to be put together by people. Actual people putting all the parts together, but then one day people designed machines to do it cheaper.. and all those people lost their jobs. We didn't try to make the assembly machines illegal because they "Hurt the American worker". That's just part of the fun of capitalism. Your job CAN suddenly be worth less, for a million reasons, and i bet you don't complain when companies compete for your money by lowering prices, why should it bother you when your being competed with? It's not your right to have a job, and getting mad because someone wants to do your job cheaper than you is plain ol stupid. Go to school, do something that pays better, or deal with it and make less money.
[May 2,2009 3:54am - RichHorror ""]
nigga u high
[May 2,2009 3:55am - ouchdrummer nli ""]
duh
[May 2,2009 3:55am - RichHorror ""]
haha good man
[May 2,2009 7:40am - BobNOMAAMRooney ""]
Hungtableed said:Freedom speech anyone?
I don't take either party these days, all politicians are scum. However, it's the fucking liberals and their seeeeeeeeensitivity that's going to ruin this country. Google "The fairness doctrine" - 'nuff said. They suck and fail at talk radio so they want to make it law for radio hosts to give liberal talking points too just to be faaaaaaaaaaair to them...we wouldn't want to hurt their feelings now, would we?
Whining about liberal seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeensitivity=lulz
[May 2,2009 9:51am - Martins ""]
I personally know an illegal immigrant and I live with a bunch of legal ones (my parents/grandparents). The illegal guy I know "runs" his own painting/flooring/tile/bathroom/blahblahwhatever "company" and goes around charging EXORBITANT amounts of money for his work. Turns out you can get it done for less by Americans. I don't really know what the point is here but, come on guy? $1400 to paint a few walls?
ouchdrummer%20nli said:It's not your right to have a job
lol wut?
[May 2,2009 9:53am - SW ""]
usually people get kicked off the air for saying the truth. the truth is the most incendiary thing that could possibly be uttered on tv/radio in the eyes of the controlling corporations
[May 2,2009 10:16am - the_reverend ""]
that is definitely the words of someone who is high.
[May 2,2009 10:20am - ouchdrummer nli ""]
do i ever not sound high?
[May 2,2009 10:21am - the_reverend ""]
Hungtableed said:Freedom speech anyone?
I don't take either party these days, all politicians are scum. However, it's the fucking liberals and their seeeeeeeeensitivity that's going to ruin this country. Google "The fairness doctrine" - 'nuff said. They suck and fail at talk radio so they want to make it law for radio hosts to give liberal talking points too just to be faaaaaaaaaaair to them...we wouldn't want to hurt their feelings now, would we?
fail. you know you can google about jews and 9/11 too.
[May 2,2009 10:21am - the_reverend ""]
was talking about sw's comment.
[May 2,2009 10:22am - ouchdrummer nli ""]
hahahah
[May 2,2009 10:41am - SW ""]
CORPORATIONZ ARE CONSPEERACY THEEORYZZ
[May 2,2009 12:54pm - AndrewBastard ""]
ouchdrummer%20nli said:
So let me ask you this, how do you think one becomes legal? Do you think you can just apply, wait, then get in? Or do you think all you have to do is marry an American? If not, how do you think someone comes in legally?
we all know 9/10 of these fuckers aren't taking any steps to become legal and that's the point...they are going to leech off of us ILLEGALLY for as long as they can get away with it (or until they're granted amnesty which is looking more and more feasible) and thus are crimaliens...
[May 2,2009 12:55pm - AndrewBastard ""]
SW said:CORPORATIONZ ARE CONSPEERACY THEEORYZZ
Seriously.
PUT ON YOUR TIN FOIL HATS AND GET THE KOOL AID READY!
[May 2,2009 2:06pm - the_reverend ""]
curtis sliwa gave extreme kentucky derby picks and the horse he picked to win and you could bet all your cheddar on was just pulled from the race.
[May 2,2009 2:14pm - AndrewBastard ""]
Curtis Sliwa sucks...but that's funny. I hope all his fellow Guardian Angels bet their life savings on that horse and are now all fucked.
[May 2,2009 2:48pm - the_reverend ""]
silwa mentions the GA like every 2 seconds on his show and makes up stupid awkward sounding american and italian slang. Do the GA pay for that advertising?
[May 2,2009 2:59pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""]
MISDEMEANORALIENS just doesn't have the same ring to it does it?
[May 2,2009 2:59pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""]
The best part of Silwa's show is when he tries to pronounce Borat.
[May 2,2009 3:42pm - ouchdrummer ""]
AndrewBastard said: "we all know 9/10 of these fuckers aren't taking any steps to become legal."
While i understand where your coming from, it's still a pretty big generalization. You'd probably assume i'm biased because of my wife, but because of her I've met and spent time with more illegals than most citizens have. And whether or not you beileive it, i know for a fact that 9/10 of the ones i know have been trying to become legal since years before they even came here.
Let's take my wife for example, she was a surgeons assistant in Brazil and worked 60-70 hours a week there, and still made just enough that her and her son had to eat nothing but rice for two meals a day, Never mind any sort of amenities. During which she spent just under 10grand, and 4 years with lawyers and applications to get even a temporary visa. Which even after all that didn't happen. So instead of accepting an inpovershed life for her and her son, she paid another 5grand to get smuggled into this country. Yup, i said 1 5 grand. And she has spent almost another 5 while she has been here to try and become legal... which may I add, even though she isn't legal, she has an IRS tax ID number, and pays her taxes every year just like you or me.
So again, i could see how people think the way that they do, but try to put yourself in a similar situation that my wife was in, and think whether or not you would have done anything differently.
I still think that people NOT trying to become legal, or people that got smuggled in without trying to get approved for a visa, or people who even do both of those but DON'T pay taxes should be deported. I just think that too many Americans put all immigrants in the same category; and when that group of people are all looked at as lazy criminals who wanna take our jobs, and destroy our country it's really not right, and i think they need to me informed better.
[May 2,2009 3:45pm - ouchdrummer ""]
"Yup, i said 1 5 grand"
that was supposed to say "5 grand" not "1 5 grand"
sorry
[May 2,2009 3:46pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""]
ITT:What country you're in when you fall out of a Vagina is a big deal
[May 2,2009 3:48pm - ouchdrummer ""]
so, your point is that if you fall out of a vagina in a country with little to no chance of even a decent life you should suck it up and deal with it?
[May 2,2009 3:54pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""]
Nope, if you fall out of a vagina in a developed nation you apparently have every right to be a petulant little bitch about immigrants coming to "your" country due to circumstances "your" government created in their nations.
[May 2,2009 4:01pm - ouchdrummer ""]
awesome. You can see how i misunderstood that though i'm sure.... and i totally agree.
[May 2,2009 4:05pm - Martins ""]
ouchdrummer said:
I still think that people NOT trying to become legal, or people that got smuggled in without trying to get approved for a visa, or people who even do both of those but DON'T pay taxes should be deported.
If this were to happen it basically becomes unfair. Why should they be allowed to live in the country just because they tried to do it legally but gave up and did it illegally?
"Oh you had good intentions so you can stay here. The rest of you get the fuck out." Doesn't cut it.
I've been in contact with many illegal immigrants and have no problem with them (except maybe their music) and have never had a job stolen from me by them...but a crime is a crime.
[May 2,2009 4:06pm - ouchdrummer ""]
Because if i remember correctly, the declaration of independence DOESN'T say "All men that are born in the US are created equal."
And again, sorry i misunderstood ya, it's just that immigration is one of the topics on rttp that I am usually totally alone in my opinions about.
[May 2,2009 4:11pm - the_reverend ""]
I "tried" to drive 55.
but fuck it, I give up!
I just can't drive 55.
[May 2,2009 4:14pm - ouchdrummer ""]
martins, do you understand that "trying and giving up" as you put it really is more like
Trying, not succeeding, then accepting the life of a bum? You might think if you keep trying you can eventually get in, but that's not true. Without relatives here, you'd have to wait almost 10years in some cases, and even then only have about a .5% chance of getting in? At which point your children would have had to go into prostitution to survive. I'm not exaggerating here either, that's what it comes down to, life or death. And if you think that when the people fail at attempting to get in legally they should just suck it up, and live a life with conditions that our government would deem unfit for a pet, or just die off, your not only cold hearted, your delusional. You'd do the same thing.
[May 2,2009 4:28pm - ouchdrummer ""]
and while i know you're joking (rev) if you where trying to drive 55, but someone in your car was in danger of losing their life if they didn't get to a hospital, i think your speeding would be overlooked by a police officer.
[May 2,2009 4:41pm - zyklon ""]
Whoever agrees with jay is a fucking racist. Like ouch I know a lot of them that wanna become legal, people don't know most of them have shitty jobs for shitty money. Who's gonna do their jobs? I've never seen a white guy cleaning restrooms.
[May 2,2009 5:41pm - mortalis ""]
DR TRK R JRBS
[May 2,2009 6:08pm - the_reverend ""]
ouchdrummer said:and while i know you're joking (rev) if you where trying to drive 55, but someone in your car was in danger of losing their life if they didn't get to a hospital, i think your speeding would be overlooked by a police officer.could someone post a link to xmikex's thread that proves him wrong?,
[May 2,2009 6:09pm - RichHorror ""]
SHUT UP NIGGER
[May 2,2009 7:10pm - Night Cleaner ""]
As for me(us), we came for a better living, some others just move here for the hype, for the right of getting better drugs and welfare. Have we touched the irish/italians coming over to the US by boats(if they would've been a fence they would have done it the same way, they are the real wetbacks), stealing the jobs for the newly baptized Americans( English, etc..), let alone the rightful owners don't even bother to claim what once belong to them(Native Indians), for their Uncivilized ways, who are we to judge? We are all immigrants, one way or another, don't beat yourself up by this, just take it and let it go, freedom of speech or ignorance, you decide your side, I care less, either way we'll never get along so the shit would always be the same. The point? There's no point, ask your foreign family(uncle,grandfather,etc..) about advice...
[May 2,2009 7:23pm - ouchdrummer ""]
well said
[May 2,2009 7:52pm - the_reverend ""]
I find it funny that the people that damn the immagrants are the same ones so damn proud of being the offspring of europe.
[May 2,2009 8:16pm - ouchdrummer ""]
yup yup
[May 3,2009 11:46am - AndrewBastard ""]
immagrants? what are those?
[May 3,2009 12:17pm - the_reverend ""]
please see the led zepplin song.
[May 3,2009 12:43pm - ouchdrummer ""]
oh my gay god, i LOVE spelling humor!
[May 4,2009 7:07am - BILLY MAYS HERE /w SOMEDAY PROV. ""]
ID LIKE BETTER DRUGS + WELFARE, PLEASE.
[May 4,2009 10:53am - JustinSteele ""]
No one has brought up the complete lack of desire to seal us up from those nasty Canadians. I wonder why? Maybe because they have primarily white skin and frankly, most have no desire to immigrate to the US. I'm sorry but this comes down to the fear of brown people.
Now, as far as Severin is concerned, let him stay on the air. You don't have the right in this country to be protected from being offended. We need voices like Severin to show us how ridiculous people can really become. He's a side show attraction and he appeals to the lowest of our sensibilities. If you don't like what is being said, use your right to protest and turn it off. If you really want him off the air, do it yourself and turn the dial.
[May 4,2009 10:57am - the_reverend ""]
FYI: the airwaves aren't free or free speech. they are controlled and licensed speech via FCC.
[May 4,2009 11:04am - C.dEAd ""]
Okay sure, we Italians might have been the original "wetbacks", but at least we took the time to learn the language. I don't really care anyway as everyone is teh gay.
[May 4,2009 11:07am - Martins ""]
ouchdrummer said: And if you think that when the people fail at attempting to get in legally they should just suck it up, and live a life with conditions that our government would deem unfit for a pet, or just die off, your not only cold hearted, your delusional. You'd do the same thing.
When did I say they should suck it up? You clearly have a bias here and that's okay but you have to understand that illegal immigration is ILLEGAL, no matter how positive the outcomes are for the "perpetrator." But please don't ever call me cold hearted or delusional. :D
[May 4,2009 11:09am - JustinSteele ""]
I don't know what that is supposed to mean. The FCC's job is to ensure that two frequencies are not being used at the same time or are too close to each other. They are supposed to regulate the industry, not content. We can argue over whether they should regulate content but that was never their original job. I understand that they have grown, however, it does seem that they have overstepped their boundaries. If we are going down that path, it does seem that the fairness doctrine would come into play: if you can regulate content (the arguement being that you need to look out for the welfare of the listeners) then many opposing points of view need to represented equally in all markets to ensure that people are receiving many different perspectives to not get an over abundance of one. Fart fart fart, poopoo.
[May 4,2009 11:13am - the_reverend ""]
I guess that you don't deal with FCC regulations at all. FCC does and has controlled content since it's inception:
http://www.vorvax.com/fcc/history.html
That's why cable doesn't go full blown on t&a, but gets away with more than network TV. Cable isn't controlled by the FCC, but if they went too far then they would.
[May 4,2009 11:15am - the_reverend ""]
FCC's words
http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/consumerfacts/obscene.html
how a shock jock gets fined
http://people.howstuffworks.com/fcc-obscenity.htm
[May 4,2009 11:16am - JustinSteele ""]
Then I don't like them. I win.
[May 4,2009 11:16am - the_reverend ""]
no, we all lose.
[May 4,2009 11:19am - JustinSteele ""]
Agreed. I hate being wrong. I put a lot of thought into that paragraph of wrongness. Being schooled on RTTP < fun
[May 4,2009 11:21am - the_reverend ""]
I just deal with a lot of their rules/rulings. When you look at fines in the thousands and tens of thousands ranges for stupid things it makes you feel worse.
[May 4,2009 11:25am - JustinSteele ""]
The more enraging thing is how subjective these laws are. It looks like they were originally written to be interpreted as we go along so the contemporary culture could determine what is to be considered "indecent", but they have been so misused to essentially black mail stations into censoring their hosts and create an environment of fear for your job if you say something that is deemed "offensive". I own XM and am very pleased with the content and general lack of restrictions there in, but I can only assume that that will be regulated soon enough. Boo content restrictions, yay offensive shit.
[May 4,2009 12:01pm - the_reverend ""]
cable has gotten away with a lot for a long time... I don't see them limiting xm/serius anytime soo.
[May 4,2009 12:01pm - the_reverend ""]
soon
[May 4,2009 12:46pm - DestroyYouAlot ""]
Borders are a hilarious consensual fiction.
[May 4,2009 12:52pm - xmikex ""]
the_reverend said:
ouchdrummer said:and while i know you're joking (rev) if you where trying to drive 55, but someone in your car was in danger of losing their life if they didn't get to a hospital, i think your speeding would be overlooked by a police officer.could someone post a link to xmikex's thread that proves him wrong?,
I'm assuming it's...
http://www.returntothepit.com/view.php?formid=59369
[May 4,2009 1:09pm - ouchdrummer ""]
Martins Said:
"When did I say they should suck it up? You clearly have a bias here and that's okay but you have to understand that illegal immigration is ILLEGAL, no matter how positive the outcomes are for the "perpetrator." But please don't ever call me cold hearted or delusional. :D"
Well then explain something to me please. When this scenario happens, what do you think these people should do? You don't agree that they should be allowed to stay, because like you said "a crime is a crime" So what other options are there? I can't think of any besides either sucking it up or sneaking in.
Maybe you don't quite understand what i was saying, but in the situation that i was talking about, there really AREN'T any other options. And saying we shouldn't allow them to stay when they've done everything in their power to do it legally (because a crime is a crime) does imply something in the "suck it up" catagory.
Now i don't think that should be our protocol, I think what needs to happen is major immigration reform, but until that point, our country was build on the idea that all men are created equal, and no matter where you were born, and no matter what color your skin, you should have the same chance as anyone else to have a life not overriden with poverty. So while obviously i can't deny that it's illegal, i can say that there SHOULD be a protocol for the situation i gave, and it should include giving these people a chance at life.
[May 4,2009 1:15pm - ouchdrummer ""]
let me add martins,
What would you do in that situation? You've tried for years, cannot get in, can't feed your children, and will need to pull your children out of 4th and 6th grade to work 15 hour days to pay for rent (1 bedroom for your family) and food(rice)?
Would you come into this country illegally? Do you have another solution? Or would you suck it up?
My point was that there aren't options, so what were you suggesting?
[May 5,2009 11:47am - Martins ""]
Look, if I had my way, it would become infinitely easier to become a citizen but it's not. I'd much prefer an illegal immigrant return to their country rather than have something shitty to them happen or do something shitty and get away with it because they're illegal. I side with the law whenever it comes to immigration because I personally know people who have done it within the past few years and they also lived in shitty situations. The brother had to have brain surgery when he was like 8 after being shot in the head by someone trying to rob their house of what little they had. The mother didn't have a job. The father was very very old. The sister was too young to be of any help. They've been living legally in the states now for 6 or 7 years. The mother is a nurse. The brother is going to art school. The sister is studying pre-med. It's possible.
[May 5,2009 11:48am - the_reverend ""]
tu xmx
[May 5,2009 11:49am - the_reverend ""]
eat the poor
[May 5,2009 12:00pm - ouchdrummer ""]
wow, so way to not answer the question. What would YOU do in that situation? It sounds like your saying if they can't do it legally they should "suck it up" and go back to where they came from. Just because a family you know got in doesn't mean familys i know that have tried for YEARS haven't gotten in. So THATS why i called you heartless and delusional.
[May 5,2009 12:14pm - Martins ""]
Calling me names gets us nowhere.
If I were in the situation, I would most definitely try to get in legally first. Take the proper steps and map out how feasible it would be for me. If it were really IMPOSSIBLE (as I doubt it would be, maybe incredibly hard but not impossible), I would find a way to sneak in. The thing is, it does take hard work to manage to get in here legally but people have to do it. It's not so much "suck it up" as much as "try, try, and try again." Things may be tough, but wouldn't the outcome be so much better?
[May 5,2009 1:05pm - ouchdrummer ""]
"If it were really IMPOSSIBLE (as I doubt it would be, maybe incredibly hard but not impossible)"
Maybe you know something i don't about how to get in, but i don't just know one family who's been through this, and i've even tried to help cousins of my wife, with no success, for the entire time i've known my wife (4years) in which time my wife's son got killed selling dope to help pay rent. I know most situations aren't that bad, but thinking that none are is naive, and thinking that all in that all people in that position can get in legally if they try hard enough is also naive.
And i wasn't name calling, at first you were implying that people shouldn't come illegally no matter what, and i was trying to show you that sometimes there isn't a choice.
[May 5,2009 1:06pm - ouchdrummer ""]
..... which it seems like you grudgingly agreed with...
[May 5,2009 1:12pm - Martins ""]
I see that you have negative experiences so we can just agree to disagree.
[May 5,2009 1:24pm - ouchdrummer ""]
sure, although my only real point was that you would do the same thing if put in that situation. Which i thought you just agreed with, so we can even agree to agree if you want to.
[May 5,2009 1:28pm - Martins ""]
Well then sure, but I'd still be doing something illegal. :spineyes:
[May 5,2009 1:31pm - ouchdrummer ""]
i agree... AND i agree with your previous statement that said we should make it infinitely easier to become a citizen. Ya see? All SORTS of agreeing.
[May 5,2009 3:24pm - Yeti ""]
Yeti said:eh, they're just mexicans.
[May 5,2009 8:57pm - the_reverend ""]
oh and even though I dislike the FCC, without them, radio would be a scramble for the bottom. then 500years from now "GO WAY! 'BATIN'"
[May 8,2009 6:04pm - the_reverend ""]
still off the air.
[May 27,2009 2:06pm - the_reverend ""]
I think he's still off the air. at this point why even still call it his show.
[May 27,2009 2:13pm - metal_church101 ""]
“women with mustaches and VD,”
Ha!
[May 27,2009 6:50pm - Lamp ""]
I work with a bunch of Mexicans and if anything they make MORE money because they're just plain better at their jobs and have more motivation to work than Americans. That's based on a commission job though.
[May 27,2009 6:59pm - Conservationist ""]
the_reverend said:http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2009/04/_jay_severin.html
I heard the comments on the air and thought they were a little much... but not too out of line with what he typically says. Curtis Sliwa was the replacement and he's kind of an idiot.
We have "freedom," remember.
There's not a dogma which you must obey like in the Soviet Union, you know.
[May 30,2009 11:48pm - the_reverend ""]
back tuesday 3pm
[Jun 3,2009 3:32pm - the_reverend ""]
"I wish to offer and trust you will consider my sincere apology. I and the men and women for whom, and with whom, I work have a duty to our community to ensure that every day our station offers - in partnership with You - ideas and conversation about the issues of the day which are thought-provoking, compelling, challenging, entertaining - but also always responsible, civil, thoughtful and respectful to all members of our community. This is our standard. However, recently, in making certain remarks, I failed this standard, and thus failed my colleagues and you. My remarks were hurtful, unkind and wrong. For those remarks and for failing to meet the standards you are right to expect of me, I am sincerely sorry. Most especially to the members of the Mexican community and Mexican-American community, I regret my remarks and I apologize for them. I am sorry. I want you to be an engaged and proud member of this audience, but I appreciate I must earn that privilege, every day. And I can only expect to do so by conducting a civil and intelligent conversation worthy of you, worthy of your family - whether or not you always agree with my opinions. To every person I have offended by my recent remarks: I am truly regretful and extend my apology. And to those who were not offended, I have still let you down by appealing to something less than the "best and brightest" in you, and for this I am also sorry. I am tremendously eager to renew - and make better - our ten years together of daily conversation and vigorous debate. You have my personal pledge that I will do my best to make ours the best show on radio. And, as ever, thank you for my job."
-Jay Severin
[Jun 3,2009 3:37pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""]
Dago apologizes to spics, film at 11
[Jun 3,2009 4:02pm - Conservationist ""]
Diversity always fails.
[Jun 3,2009 4:22pm - largefreakatzero ""]
Apologies are for pussies.
[Jun 3,2009 5:24pm - the_reverend ""]
this is simple economics. his ability to generate revenue dipped below the shocking things he said. say bad things about mexicans long enough and companies that pull their income from hispanic shoppers will pull their ads.