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Ok so Mass senate OKs the hike on sales tax....

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[May 19,2009 11:02pm - reimroc ""]
http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2009/05/mass_senate_app.html

Lets just pretend this never happened and continue to shop in New Hampshire like we always do. Unless of course you live on the south shore and then you're SOL.
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[May 20,2009 12:20pm - reimroc ""]
No discussion? I doubt any of you are surprised.
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[May 20,2009 12:22pm - mOe ""]
no longer living in MA...no care EVAR
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[May 20,2009 12:23pm - narkybark ""]
what discussion is there? we just bend over and take it like always.
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[May 20,2009 12:29pm - reimroc ""]

narkybark said:what discussion is there? we just bend over and take it like always.



That is of course unless you live within 30 minutes of new hampshire.
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[May 20,2009 12:31pm - Sacreligion ""]
So they'll decriminalize doob but hike up the prices on booze? I don't like the idea that 30s of high life will be even closer to $20 now.
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[May 20,2009 12:37pm - reimroc ""]
Well there used to be no sales tax on the booze not that it mattered the prices were still ridiculous.
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[May 20,2009 12:40pm - reimroc ""]
It is true that this will just force more people to drive to NH to buy things.
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[May 20,2009 12:46pm - arilliusbm ""]
simple soltion:

abolish the federal reserve and monetary financial system, get rid of currency, and live off planet earth. no worries about money period.
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[May 20,2009 12:47pm - reimroc ""]
lol if only that would work.
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[May 20,2009 12:49pm - Sacreligion ""]

arilliusbm said:simple soltion:

abolish the federal reserve and monetary financial system, get rid of currency, and live off planet earth. no worries about money period.



But what about those thousands of years that were put into enslaving the masses? We can't let that all go to waste!
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[May 20,2009 1:00pm - arilliusbm ""]
there are a number of things wrong with this state.

MBTA is one of them. shit is falling apart. drivers text while 200 people depends on them.
bridges are crumbling, roads are riddled with potholes.
of course they're going to fuck over everyone that lives in this state. it's funny because boston is known as the Athens of America - a center of education, hospitals, knowledge and power.
but then you look at everything else.. it's falling apart from within.

money controls everything. sad, sad society. human race = destined for failure
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[May 20,2009 1:01pm - Sacreligion ""]
C.R.E.A.M.
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[May 20,2009 1:26pm - dreadkill ""]
idiot train/subway/bus/whatever drivers who text aren't unique to boston. it happened in california not too long ago and people died.
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[May 20,2009 1:28pm - reimroc ""]

arilliusbm said:there are a number of things wrong with this state.

MBTA is one of them. shit is falling apart. drivers text while 200 people depends on them.
bridges are crumbling, roads are riddled with potholes.
of course they're going to fuck over everyone that lives in this state. it's funny because boston is known as the Athens of America - a center of education, hospitals, knowledge and power.
but then you look at everything else.. it's falling apart from within.

money controls everything. sad, sad society. human race = destined for failure



They spent way to much money in the past especially with that failure of a project we call the "big dig" and now we are paying the price.
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[May 20,2009 1:39pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]
this sucks so much
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[May 20,2009 1:43pm - the_reverend ""]
THIS FUCKING RULES!!! LIVE FREE OR DIE!!
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[May 20,2009 1:43pm - arilliusbm ""]
yea, the commuter train that crashed outside of LA a few years ago. something like 80 people died, right?

regardless, MBTA claims to be underfunded. I pay 250 bucks a month for my zone 8 pass. it used to be 212 or something. and then they raise the parking fee at all commuter rail stops to 4 dollars a day. FUCK LAZ PARKING AND FUCK THE MBTA
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[May 20,2009 1:45pm - the_reverend ""]
drive.
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[May 20,2009 1:46pm - dreadkill ""]
it's not worth it to take the mbta anymore. fuck that scam
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[May 20,2009 1:52pm - reimroc ""]
All I can say is that if Deval or another Ultra-Liberal gets elected again I am moving out of this state. Probably to New Hampshire.
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[May 20,2009 1:52pm - arilliusbm ""]
no thanks on driving. my cars on its last leg. the amount of money i'd pay in gas and repairs would exceed the price of the MBTA so I guess I shouldn't be complaining. perhaps I will just move out of the woods and into the city
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[May 20,2009 1:55pm - dreadkill ""]
then your rent will be ridiculous. it's a no-win situation
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[May 20,2009 1:55pm - dreadkill ""]
deval patrick is a terrible governor
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[May 20,2009 1:55pm - arilliusbm ""]
massachusetts hasn't had a good governer in years.

this state is more corrupt than we all think.
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[May 20,2009 1:57pm - arilliusbm ""]
the media bashes deval to no end.. but rightfully so.
still, remember healey? fucking rich north shore cunt from beverly farms? she would have sucked too
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[May 20,2009 2:12pm - reimroc ""]

arilliusbm said:the media bashes deval to no end.. but rightfully so.
still, remember healey? fucking rich north shore cunt from beverly farms? she would have sucked too



I voted for christy mihos. Just like how I voted Libertarian this past presidential election. Why? Not only does it pretty much reflect my views but also I can't be blamed for the fuck-ups that Obama and Deval are/will commit.
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[May 20,2009 2:17pm - the_reverend ""]
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[May 20,2009 1:55pm - arilliusbm]
massachusetts hasn't had a good governer.


mis-placed ya period.
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[May 20,2009 2:17pm - arilliusbm ""]
hey at least you stick to your guns. the chances are slim that any libertarian gets elected for anything.
the whole bipartisan shit is absurd. everything is democrat this democrat that or republican this or that. fucking disgrace this political system is. founding fathers are rolling around in their grave right now.
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[May 20,2009 2:21pm - arilliusbm ""]
-politicians all suck. they are phony puppets that make laws instead of fixing issues
-this state is corrupt, as is just about every other one.
-we don't live in a democracy or a republic anymore, just a oligarchy amongst the rich indivuduals/business men that run the world
- money is meaningless
- the us "government" hinders the individual which ultimately hinders society which in turn ultimately hinders the progression of the human race. catch my drift?

beam me up scotty, because this fucking state/country/world/society is pathetic. someone give me a 12 guage so i can blow my head off
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[May 20,2009 2:33pm - reimroc ""]
Don't do that who will I pwn in cs if you're gone!?
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[May 20,2009 2:40pm - Burnsy ""]
Democrats are merely socialists in disguise. Obama's tripling the size of the government. So all those benefits and good pay for government jobs.... taxes have no where to go but up. And fuck Patrick, he's a hack. He promises to cut back property taxes and does nothing about it! Instead proposes tax increases on sales and gas.
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[May 20,2009 4:34pm - niccolai ""]

Burnsy said:Democrats are merely socialists in disguise. Obama's tripling the size of the government. So all those benefits and good pay for government jobs.... taxes have no where to go but up. And fuck Patrick, he's a hack. He promises to cut back property taxes and does nothing about it! Instead proposes tax increases on sales and gas.



Bingo.


Why don't people realize this before they vote people like obama and patrick into office?

Retards, the lot of you.
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[May 20,2009 4:38pm - the_reverend ""]
right.. cause if there is one thing that Republicans do, it's shrink the size of government and definitely do not spend us into a deficit.
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[May 20,2009 4:40pm - moenli  ""]
one of the reasons I moved from MA...got tired of being treated like i owed the state everything i fucking had
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[May 20,2009 4:49pm - reimroc ""]

moenli said:one of the reasons I moved from MA...got tired of being treated like i owed the state everything i fucking had


the reason why i'm debating to move.
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[May 20,2009 4:55pm - moenli  ""]
seriously, i was apprehensive about coming back to NJ but it was like a breath of fresh air to not have the state you live in constantly hounding you for more and more money every chance it gets
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[May 20,2009 4:56pm - arilliusbm ""]
you guys should just move to the midwest..
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[May 20,2009 5:07pm - narkybark ""]
the problem is not demos vs. repubs, the problem is state government in general. The pension/perk system is out of control and it will never be reigned in. Why change something that massively benefits you? (and by you I mean anyone working for the state). Politicians are royalty, why work hard to try and reduce waste when you can simply tax the dirty common folk more?
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[May 20,2009 5:13pm - BobNOMAAMRooney nli  ""]
Massachusetts: Good programs, horrible administrators.
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[May 20,2009 5:15pm - niccolai ""]

the_reverend said:right.. cause if there is one thing that Republicans do, it's shrink the size of government and definitely do not spend us into a deficit.


Conservatives by definition support smaller government and scold large spending. There just aren't too many actual conservatives right now.

Most self-proclaimed conservatives are democrats as far as I'm concerned (GWB for example).
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[May 20,2009 5:17pm - arilliusbm ""]
how about this:

Abolish government. Period. problem solved. true power to the people.
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[May 20,2009 5:18pm - moenli  ""]
I worked for the state of MA and I'll be honest, if I wanted to stay there for the rest of my life and work my EXTREMELY cushy job I would have been all set in like 15-20 years. But the first 5-10 of those would have sucked....a lot.
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[May 20,2009 5:38pm - HeavensJail_nli  ""]
http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lists/taxesbystate2005/

interesting, but consider:
1) this is by percentage of income, so residents of high-cost-of-living states like IL and MA will pay more in absolute dollars because the average incomes are higher.
2) in MA, graduated/progressive taxation is actually unconstitutional; people who make less money only pay less taxes due to credits/rebates/deductions that can get complicated and arcane to actually work out.
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[May 20,2009 7:22pm - Hoser ""]
Mass will always vote Dem, and Mass will always suffer the consequences and bitch about it later.

I wish that state would just float off of the mainland and be the idiot island that it acts like now.
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[May 20,2009 7:38pm - MillenialKingdom ""]
This sucks because now all the MA scum is going to infest Southern NH and turn it into a garbage pile more than it already is.
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[May 20,2009 7:40pm - BobNOMAAMRooney nli  ""]
I don't know how you could make Southern NH any worse than it already is.
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[May 20,2009 7:56pm - xanonymousx ""]
even more traffic to my store now=job security
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[May 20,2009 7:59pm - Hoser ""]
Southern NH sucks why???

Massholes. Scum. Poverty sticken by their filthy government. Looking for salvation anywhere they can find it. Overtaxed. Underpaid. Welfare state.

I cannot even explain my hatred for that state and their politics. They are slowly moving north and bringing with them the decay of their own state.

I wish death upon that state, and California. It's only taken them 200 years to start to realize that socialism doesn't work. Hopefully, the socialism in that state dies with the Kennedy's.
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[May 20,2009 8:03pm - arilliusbm ""]
haha, i'm looking at the golden dome on the MA State House as I read this.
what lies underneath that dome is corruption and stingy puppets (politicians). ah, the irony.
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[May 20,2009 8:07pm - Hoser ""]
Hope for America...good job Mass.
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[May 20,2009 8:08pm - BobNOMAAMRooney nli  ""]
Northern New England is raviolis.
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[May 20,2009 9:02pm - reimroc ""]

Hoser said:Southern NH sucks why???

Massholes. Scum. Poverty sticken by their filthy government. Looking for salvation anywhere they can find it. Overtaxed. Underpaid. Welfare state.

I cannot even explain my hatred for that state and their politics. They are slowly moving north and bringing with them the decay of their own state.

I wish death upon that state, and California. It's only taken them 200 years to start to realize that socialism doesn't work. Hopefully, the socialism in that state dies with the Kennedy's.



We're scum? Go fuck yourself.
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[May 20,2009 9:03pm - the_reverend ""]
Hoser's oppinion is null and void cause he ditched a republican NH for the most liberal state maine.
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[May 20,2009 9:04pm - reimroc ""]
I thought maine was more conservative than NH.
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[May 20,2009 9:16pm - Dankill  ""]
If people want to start making a change, start from the bottom up in the state. Which would involve voting out the retard democrats in the state senate and house that have run unopposed for years and not done a fucking thing for us because until they get caught with a dead hooker in their trunk or fucking a kid, they have the job for life. Replace them with Republicans, Liberatians, Green Party, ect. Anything to have some different views and not a massive one party system that never changes!
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[May 20,2009 9:25pm - reimroc ""]
The problem is the majority of our state are morons. The intelligent people let alone the ones who can vote are in the minority. I personally feel its a lost cause which is why sometimes I feel like moving out of the state.
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[May 20,2009 9:27pm - the_reverend ""]
reimroc: you are completely wrong.
they already passed gay marriage.
there is only one prominent republican: olimpia snow.
they also bought laptops for every kid for 2 or 3 years.
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[May 20,2009 9:28pm - reimroc ""]
I presume you're talking about the maine subject? I was completely in the dark you have to remember I don't follow maine's politics lol
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[May 20,2009 9:29pm - the_reverend ""]
it's also hilarious because hoser lives in maine which was part of mass and basically still is. 8% income tax and 5% sales tax.
Keep it up and come to NH to shop please!
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[May 20,2009 9:30pm - the_reverend ""]
maine is a 15 minute walk from where I live.
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[May 20,2009 9:31pm - reimroc ""]
I've always shopped in NH. Other than gas/little things I can't think of one occurrence where I've purchased something of value in Massachusetts. It also helps that I border Hollis.
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[May 21,2009 1:47am - MillenialKingdom ""]
All the southern NH towns like Salem, Nashua and Rochester (where I live) is seeing more and more MA people every year. There's not a day that goes by I don't see a MA license plate.
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[May 21,2009 7:58am - Yeti ""]
fuck this shit state. i need to get out so bad. the only reason i don't is because of the fact that jobs are difficult to find, and i'm lucky to have a very secure one. my lease is up on July 1st and i don't want to stay here.
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[May 21,2009 8:06am - reimroc ""]

MillenialKingdom said:All the southern NH towns like Salem, Nashua and Rochester (where I live) is seeing more and more MA people every year. There's not a day that goes by I don't see a MA license plate.


NH residents have seen MA license plates ever since its been cheaper to shop up there. Nothing really to complain about. I see more NH plates than MA plates in Burlington where I work.
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[May 21,2009 10:38am - arilliusbm ""]
bump for the sole reason of bringing up the MBTA again:

all subways in boston were down this morning due to a power failure. there were about 10 people here that had to walk from all over.

also, LAZ parking failed to see that I paid my 5 dollars for parking yesterday, and billed me again.

mbta is the lamest excuse for public transportation in the country
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[May 21,2009 10:40am - reimroc ""]
Yea the mbta can be quite frustrating. They're always talking about new and exciting changes to help the travelers but I haven't seen anything yet. The only part of the mbta that actually fulfills its duty is the commuter rail.
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[May 21,2009 10:44am - the_reverend ""]
new and exciting means randomly changing things so that you get newly confused
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[May 21,2009 10:47am - Yeti ""]
at least once a week the MBCR has a "mechanical failure" that results in leaving an hour late. its usually on Monday mornings.
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[May 21,2009 10:48am - reimroc ""]

the_reverend said:new and exciting means randomly changing things so that you get newly confused


qft
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[May 21,2009 10:49am - reimroc ""]

Yeti said:at least once a week the MBCR has a "mechanical failure" that results in leaving an hour late. its usually on Monday mornings.


yea but other than that its usually on time and does its job.
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[May 21,2009 10:50am - the_reverend ""]
caught texting.
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[May 21,2009 10:54am - arilliusbm ""]
what yeti said.

for a while, with the implementation of the multi-million dollar greenbush commuter rail line (because the rich doctors and lawyers in Duxbury), my train was and hour late 1-2 times a week. they just brushed it over. it's a little better now but the greenbush people are still douchebags
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[May 21,2009 10:59am - reimroc ""]
The Lowell/Fitchburg lines were always on time when I used them. I guess it depends on which line you use.
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[May 21,2009 11:59am - Conservationist ""]

Sacreligion said:
arilliusbm said:simple soltion:

abolish the federal reserve and monetary financial system, get rid of currency, and live off planet earth. no worries about money period.



But what about those thousands of years that were put into enslaving the masses? We can't let that all go to waste!



The masses are now the masters, but they're broke. Pay up nilla.
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[May 21,2009 12:01pm - xmikex ""]
...the sales tax from 5 percent to 6.25 percent and generate $633 million, according to the Senate. Lifting the sales tax exemption on alcohol sold at package stores would raise $80 million, senators said. They said the money would be used to help offset deep cuts in services for the poor elderly and disabled.


$700 million to help the elderly and the disabled?! Fuck them. Is that seriously the furthest we can stretch 700 million fucking dollars is for new tennis balls on nursing home walkers?
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[May 21,2009 8:01pm - Hoser ""]
Rev, you may hate my opinion like death but what I say is the blatant, tangible truth. I moved to Maine to escape the Nerw Yorkers and Massholes that are invading it. I don't mind paying the taxes as long as it keeps me away from those morons. Make fun all you want. You live in decay central (portsmouth), so enjoy. Portsmouth is a bottomless sewer for hipsters and tourists. You know as well as I do that it isn't half the city it was when we were kids. Massholes are one of 2 classes, garbage or yuppies. Portsmouth take the garbage in to show their bullshit democratic humanitarianism, all supported by hypocritical, liberal money.
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[May 21,2009 8:56pm - the_reverend ""]
I support massholes coming to spend money on shit in NH on their way to/from vacationing in maine.
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[May 21,2009 9:17pm - Hoser ""]
Yuck...the problem is, when they get here, they see what they don't have and either theyre rich enough to buy their way into the state, or they just move here and draw SS disability and inpoverish yet another state.

FUCKING SCUM.
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[May 21,2009 9:18pm - Hoser ""]
And naturally, they vote for whatever hand promises to feed them the most...i.e our current nigger president who everyone will be bitching about in the next 2 minutes.
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[May 21,2009 9:33pm - Lamp ""]
You guys could do what I did... move to the south.

A person can actually work a blue collar job in this state and afford to live by himself. Wish I could say the same about New England.
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[May 21,2009 10:13pm - reimroc ""]

Hoser said: Massholes are one of 2 classes, garbage or yuppies.



Do you try to make yourself sound this retarded? You do realize 95% of the state doesn't live in Boston making that statement null and void. Either way on what basis and evidence do you have that out of the whole population of Massachusetts there are only two sets of people: yuppies and garbage. The guy with down-syndrome i see every day on my way to work drooling in his wheelchair makes more logical sense when speaking than you do.
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[May 21,2009 10:15pm - Dankill  ""]

Lamp said:You guys could do what I did... move to the south.

A person can actually work a blue collar job in this state and afford to live by himself. Wish I could say the same about New England.


Things like that have tempted me after a trip to Louisiana last year.

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