one of the few doctors who performed late-term abortions killed at church[views:7953][posts:41]___________________________________ [Jun 1,2009 3:08pm - arilliusbm ""] ...and police think they know who did it. touchey subject for all you pro-life people on this board..haha but wait, taking a 51 year old's life isn't as bad as taking someone that's not born yet, eh? http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/06/01/kansas.doctor.killed.charges/index.html this guy was a walking target doing what he does in the state of Kansas. |
| _____________________________________ [Jun 1,2009 3:10pm - the_reverend ""] ironic. |
| __________________________________________ [Jun 1,2009 3:13pm - mikeofdecrepitude ""] arilliusbm said: but wait, taking a 51 year old's life isn't as bad as taking someone that's not born yet, eh? But that boy done doin' the devil's work there, ya see? |
| ___________________________________ [Jun 1,2009 3:15pm - arilliusbm ""] eh, I misread it. the suspect is 51. not sure how old the doctor dude was. either way, if they were both aborted this would have never happened, right? |
| ____________________________________ [Jun 1,2009 3:18pm - darkwornli ""] 1 doctor's life is worth the lives all the religious fundies in kansas, especially a doctor who has the balls to pull a fetus in that state. i guess fox news called the murderer "pro-life"...no, he's a fucking TERRORIST. get it right. this struggle will never end as long as we're humans. sucks. |
| ___________________________________ [Jun 1,2009 3:22pm - arilliusbm ""] it is going to be a constant struggle with the religious fundies and pro-choice people. I'm afraid there really is no happy median for this issue other than letting the states decide what's right or wrong. I still don't understand why people are against stem cell research. that's beyond me. anything that can be viewed as "playing god" is frowned upon these days. |
| ______________________________________ [Jun 1,2009 3:24pm - thuringwethil ""] don't get me started on religion. grrrrrrrr |
| ______________________________________ [Jun 1,2009 3:26pm - thuringwethil ""] bennyhillifier oh ok here ya go |
| ____________________________ [Jun 1,2009 3:29pm - cav ""] a pro life murder? hahahahaha |
| _____________________________ [Jun 1,2009 3:31pm - Yeti ""] i'm glad he had the courage to do what he did, and was also aware of the ramifications he faced every day. and like Jim said above, taking this guy's life is somehow better than taking the "life" of something that shouldn't be constituted as life. not to mention he did it in church. hooray for god. |
| _____________________________________ [Jun 1,2009 3:56pm - the_reverend ""] eye for an eye. that means kill the wicked. a lot of religious folk are pro-death penalty. |
| ___________________________________ [Jun 1,2009 4:03pm - arilliusbm ""] so what you're trying to tell us is that a lot of religious folk practice King Hammurabi's code of ethics (eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth) from ancient Babylonia? They do know that that was a pre-Christian law by the same people that exiled the Israelites? Certainly their educated enough to know that their system of beliefs came before Christianity, żdo they not? |
| ___________________________________ [Jun 1,2009 4:05pm - arilliusbm ""] perhaps it should make more sense if "they're" was used in lieu of "their" while talking about education. |
| ____________________________________ [Jun 1,2009 4:32pm - darkwornli ""] i swear if everyone could just open a history book and realize their religion was man-made..... |
| ________________________________________ [Jun 1,2009 6:34pm - Conservationist ""] thuringwethil said:don't get me started on religion. grrrrrrrr Yeah, religion must be the problem. It has nothing to do with the general stupidity and irresponsibility of the individual. Obviously. |
| ___________________________________ [Jun 1,2009 6:56pm - PatMeebles ""] And anyone that isn't 100% pro-abortion at all stages of pregnancy is obviously a religious fundy, right? |
| _____________________________________ [Jun 1,2009 7:00pm - the_reverend ""] ahahaha, I vote that guys should be allowed to abort. |
| ______________________________ [Jun 1,2009 7:07pm - aril ""] From Kansas? Yes, I'd have to conclude that because this took place at a church, lies on the outskirts of the Bible Belt (see map below) [img] , and given this is one of the key arguments in modern politics and religion, then I'd have to conclude that chances are over 90% this guy has some fundamental beliefs. |
| ______________________________ [Jun 1,2009 7:10pm - aril ""] but that's besides the point. who wants to party on a monday night?? |
| ______________________________ [Jun 1,2009 7:18pm - tylor ""] Conservationist said: thuringwethil said:don't get me started on religion. grrrrrrrr Yeah, religion must be the problem. It has nothing to do with the general stupidity and irresponsibility of the individual. Obviously. haha yeah for real. sure this guy is a wackjob but religion positively enhances the lives of alot of people. can't make generalizations like that. |
| ___________________________________ [Jun 1,2009 7:18pm - PatMeebles ""] I was talking to "it is going to be a constant struggle with the religious fundies and pro-choice people." The guy definitely was a fundy who did this. |
| ___________________________________ [Jun 1,2009 7:24pm - ArilliusBM ""] guy is an idiot whatever he is haha |
| _________________________________________ [Jun 1,2009 9:39pm - MillenialKingdom ""] See, this is the hypocrisy of extreme religiosity that I abhor and will NEVER stand by. Fuck this guy, I hope he burns in Hell. |
| _____________________________ [Jun 2,2009 7:20am - Yeti ""] that's the thing though, according to the New Testament and the pussy god that reigns there, all he has to do is say he is sorry and he is welcomed into heaven. |
| _____________________________ [Jun 2,2009 7:21am - Yeti ""] if this were the Old Testament, oh yeah, he'd be burning in Hell. |
| _________________________________ [Jun 2,2009 8:38am - brian_dc ""] LOL @ Hell. Doesn't matter what book it is, fellas. |
| _________________________________________ [Jun 2,2009 8:58am - largefreakatzero ""] aril said:From Kansas? Yes, I'd have to conclude that because this took place at a church, lies on the outskirts of the Bible Belt (see map below) [img] , and given this is one of the key arguments in modern politics and religion, then I'd have to conclude that chances are over 90% this guy has some fundamental beliefs. That part of the country clearly needs a forceful enema. I visited Kansas City not that long ago. Fucking creepy-ass churches on every corner. DO NOT WANT. |
| __________________________________ [Jun 2,2009 9:53am - dreadkill ""] george carlin said:Why is it that most of the people who are against abortion are people you wouldn't want to fuck in the first place? |
| ____________________________________ [Jun 2,2009 10:03am - arilliusbm ""] honestly, if anyone has ventured in the depths of the Bible Belt, hell - even most of the mid west for that matter (outside the cities), you're in a different domain. Want to know something that's so popular in America but not too popular up here in NE? Contemporary Christian Music. People gather at stadiums to watch their favorite contemporary christian artist play, all while the sway like grains in the wind. shit is out of control. |
| __________________________________________ [Jun 2,2009 10:10am - largefreakatzero ""] arilliusbm said:Contemporary Christian Music. People gather at stadiums to watch their favorite contemporary christian artist play, all while the sway like grains in the wind. shit is out of control. This is one of the few domestic venues where I would support an act of terrorism. |
| ____________________________________ [Jun 2,2009 10:28am - arilliusbm ""] if you're driving through certain states, very rarely do they have stations that play rock, hip hop or the like. it's all contemporary christian, contemporary country (which sucks so bad while compared to real country music), or biblical lectures. sometimes be thankful you live in New England and not some farm town in the East Bum Fuck Indiana, Nebraska, Missouri, Kansas, Alabama, Arkansas, and many other states.. even parts of Texas. I'm afraid I don't think the majority of America won't see the realty of things |
| ___________________________________________ [Jun 2,2009 10:31am - mikeofdecrepitude ""] I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground, before I recognize Missourah. |
| ______________________________ [Jun 2,2009 10:44am - Yeti ""] OUR GOD IS AN AWESOME GOD HE REIGNS!!!! |
| ______________________________________ [Jun 2,2009 10:52am - goatcatalyst ""] Fuck America |
| ____________________________________ [Jun 2,2009 11:01am - arilliusbm ""] us yankees aren't well liked in kansas shit, when is that Westboro Baptist GOD HATES FAGS march in boston going to happen? wasn't that coming up this summer? |
| ______________________________ [Jun 2,2009 12:39pm - Yeti ""] open the eyes of my heart, Lord open the eyes of my heart |
| ________________________________________ [Jun 2,2009 1:02pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] Satan, BITE THE DUST |
| _____________________________________ [Jun 2,2009 3:19pm - SkinSandwich ""] [img] |
| ________________________________________ [Jun 2,2009 4:22pm - Conservationist ""] It's sad, then, that Christians are such good guardians of culture and neighborhoods, and disaffected atheists such poor ones. |
| ___________________________________ [Jun 2,2009 7:19pm - ArilliusBM ""] Conservationist said:It's sad, then, that Christians are such good guardians of culture and neighborhoods, and disaffected atheists such poor ones. Society accepts this as the norm. Do you really think America would vote an Atheist president anytime soon? Most religions teach good morals, values, and spiritual connectivity. Atheism itself does not teach those things as it has no "book" to go by, but a true atheist knows they don't need religion for good morals and values. Most of them, sadly, are quiet people who don't really raise a voice too much. We saw what happened last Christmas in Washington. Atheists made that sign stating "there are no gods, angels, etc." near the nativity scene. ( http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/12/05/atheists.christmas/index.html) Although the message is blunt (fuck, that would awesome to have one right now), it caused an uproar because of its negative message. atheism will only affect the masses if it affects society in a positive manner. which it doesn't by any standard today. Sad, blinded world we live in. i need a beer. or a couple. |
| ______________________________ [Jun 2,2009 9:28pm - yummy ""] arilliusbm said:us yankees aren't well liked in kansas shit, when is that Westboro Baptist GOD HATES FAGS march in boston going to happen? wasn't that coming up this summer? They were at East Providence High School the other day. I missed it. |
| _________________________________________ [Jun 2,2009 10:09pm - Conservationist ""] ArilliusBM said: Conservationist said:It's sad, then, that Christians are such good guardians of culture and neighborhoods, and disaffected atheists such poor ones. Society accepts this as the norm. Do you really think America would vote an Atheist president anytime soon? Most religions teach good morals, values, and spiritual connectivity. Atheism itself does not teach those things as it has no "book" to go by, but a true atheist knows they don't need religion for good morals and values. Most of them, sadly, are quiet people who don't really raise a voice too much. We saw what happened last Christmas in Washington. Atheists made that sign stating "there are no gods, angels, etc." near the nativity scene. ( http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/12/05/atheists.christmas/index.html) Although the message is blunt (fuck, that would awesome to have one right now), it caused an uproar because of its negative message. atheism will only affect the masses if it affects society in a positive manner. which it doesn't by any standard today. Sad, blinded world we live in. i need a beer. or a couple. All true, especially the blunt part. However, on reflection regarding this issue, I think the solution is an old one -- http://www.advaita-vedanta.org/ Non-dualistic religion is a philosophy, and a good way to compile knowledge most people are not going to figure out themselves. At this point, it could even occur under the auspices of Christianity, which quite honestly is fine with me -- the philosophy, not the nameplate, matters. I like the idea of community centers, shared value, working toward the good things, and staying out of the trap of modern liberalism -- a paranoia that always must find an oppressor to blame, and never take responsibility for actions and discipline the mind. |