awesome blog for powerviolence![views:7704][posts:88]_________________________________ [Aug 1,2009 11:05am - RustyPS ""] LOUIS CK IS NOT POWERVIOLENCE LOLWTFBBQ |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 2,2009 2:57pm - the_reverend ""] whenever I dl things from this in firefox, I get malware like crazy. |
| ________________________________________ [Aug 2,2009 3:07pm - BoarcorpseJimbo ""] Boarcorpse is BaconCore |
| _______________________________ [Aug 2,2009 4:01pm - xmikex ""] You all owe Matt Domino royalties for this thread. Paypal them to me, and I'll send him a check. |
| ___________________________________ [Aug 2,2009 4:51pm - xgodzillax ""] xmikex said:You all owe Matt Domino royalties for this thread. Paypal them to me, and I'll send him a check. im sure matt domino doesnt care as much as eric wood |
| ____________________________ [Aug 2,2009 6:47pm - ZJD ""] MikeOv said:Fastcore? Come on... Is that a legitimate genre? yes. That's like saying screamo is a real genre of music. screamo is a real genre of music. |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 3,2009 12:06am - arilliusbm ""] [img] |
| ________________________________ [Aug 3,2009 9:12am - MikeOv ""] ZJD said: MikeOv said:Fastcore? Come on... Is that a legitimate genre? yes. That's like saying screamo is a real genre of music. screamo is a real genre of music. I guess they're actual genre's for people who want to believe they're real. I'll never consider them legitimate genres, but no one should get red-assed over it. Call them whatever you want. As for screamo, some kid leaping onto the floor and screaming for 10 seconds into the mic doesn't deserve its own sub-genre label. To me, it's just a lame punk derivative. |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 3,2009 9:19am - the_reverend ""] didn't you just make fun or every song of nd's scum right there? |
| ________________________________ [Aug 3,2009 9:26am - MikeOv ""] Why, was Napalm Death "fastcore" too? ND was the first real incarnation of Grindcore. Detuned, sped up punk riffs, screamed/growled trade-off's, and blasting. Or wait, were they screamo? I'm sure Mick Harris would agree. |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 3,2009 9:27am - the_reverend ""] "some kid leaping onto the floor and screaming for 10 seconds into the mic doesn't deserve its own sub-genre label" = scum. |
| ________________________________ [Aug 3,2009 9:34am - MikeOv ""] Hah, Rev you know exactly what I'm talking about since you been to a lot of those shows. I'm talking about that North Shore, NH epidemic where it was a bunch of hc kids with mod haircuts just doing what I described because they had no talent to do anything else. They got worshipped for their 15 minutes in the scene limelight. ND was violent and had a distinct sound. Those bands were just laughable. |
| ________________________________ [Aug 3,2009 9:58am - MikeOv ""] I am interested in hearing someone description of what "fastcore" actually is. To me, it's a redundant label, because it just sounds like you're trying to say Grindcore. That's like me saying I'm going to rip off old Darkthrone, image, sound, and all. Only we're not Black Metal, we're "Evil Metal". "Look! The emperor has new clothes!" |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 3,2009 11:51am - xgodzillax ""] MikeOv said:I am interested in hearing someone description of what "fastcore" actually is. To me, it's a redundant label, because it just sounds like you're trying to say Grindcore. That's like me saying I'm going to rip off old Darkthrone, image, sound, and all. Only we're not Black Metal, we're "Evil Metal". "Look! The emperor has new clothes!" Thrashcore (also known as fastcore[1]) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thrashcore "screamo." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screamo |
| _________________________________ [Aug 3,2009 12:02pm - MikeOv ""] Oh, I know what screamo is considered, and wiki's definition is in agreeance with mine. It's some emo/spastic style of punk, I've just refused to call it screamo. So fastcore is just another way of saying cross over, or thrashcore. I've never really heard that term used until about a week ago. So you could even call it speedcore if you wanted to? |
| _________________________________ [Aug 3,2009 12:05pm - RustyPS ""] Screamo, at least to me, is what that wiki refers to as the first-wave of screamo (Pg. 99, Orchid, La Quiete, etc.)....I don't consider that second-wave screamo at all |
| _________________________________ [Aug 3,2009 12:11pm - MikeOv ""] So apparently I've discovered that "speedcore" is a style of techno. Hah, this is so retarded. |
| _______________________________________ [Aug 3,2009 12:19pm - boblovesmusic ""] Just for the record, I refuse to call HavaGrind a Jewcore band! |
| _____________________________________________ [Aug 3,2009 12:40pm - dontlivefastjustdie ""] i would say fastcore is bands like Hummingbird of Death. Bands that incorporate the speed and nastiness of pv but with good 80's hardcore/punk influence. i love it all regardless of what its called...the faster the better. |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 3,2009 12:58pm - xgodzillax ""] one of my favorite bands is orchid. i dont give a fuck what anyone says, they were an amazing band. pg.99, portraits of past, saetia, jeromes dream, usurp synapse, the assistant, etc. all amazing. level plane used to put out good records =/ |
| ___________________________________ [Aug 3,2009 1:11pm - arilliusbm ""] genres are pretty stupid these days.. |
| ______________________________________ [Aug 3,2009 1:25pm - boblovesmusic ""] I'm just waiting for Blackcore... |
| ____________________________________________ [Aug 3,2009 2:40pm - dontlivefastjustdie ""] boblovesmusic said:might as well use this blog to introduce myself to powerviolence. Which bands would people recommend? spazz fuck on the beach crossed out the ultimate warriors |
| _____________________________ [Aug 3,2009 6:36pm - Lamp ""] MikeOv said:I am interested in hearing someone description of what "fastcore" actually is. To me, it's a redundant label, because it just sounds like you're trying to say Grindcore. That's like me saying I'm going to rip off old Darkthrone, image, sound, and all. Only we're not Black Metal, we're "Evil Metal". "Look! The emperor has new clothes!" Fastcore basically takes the early 80s sound and takes the speed to the next level, I guess you could say it's almost at a blasting pace but since it has no metal influence whatsoever, it's not grind. It differs from powerviolence just because fastcore is a more straight forward sound while powerviolence has a lot of time/tempo changes, etc. And subgenres aren't stupid either. If a band is doing something truly different and new, why put it in the same category? Music evolves in all directions and not only are you undermining creative bands by putting them in the same old groups, but not believing in genres is like having no standards, why do you think people call shit like Korn metal? |
| ________________________________ [Aug 3,2009 6:40pm - W3 nli ""] best thing on there...... http://ocpimple.blogspot.com/2009/07/louis-ck.html |
| ____________________________________________ [Aug 3,2009 6:47pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""] boblovesmusic said:I'm just waiting for Blackcore... You'll be able to hear Black Slam on Monday August 10th. Seriously. |
| _____________________________ [Aug 3,2009 6:49pm - Lamp ""] Blackcore? I guess if that's what you wanna call Infernal Stronghold feel free... :spineyes: Does anyone else get the impression that a lot of punks are playing ironic black metal these days or at the very least using ironic black metal logos? |
| ____________________________ [Aug 3,2009 7:24pm - ZJD ""] xgodzillax said:one of my favorite bands is orchid. i dont give a fuck what anyone says, they were an amazing band. pg.99, portraits of past, saetia, jeromes dream, usurp synapse, the assistant, etc. all amazing. level plane used to put out good records =/ all this shit had a definitive sound and it is reasonable to give it a specific name. screamo is a lame way to address it, but this genre is totally legit whether or not people use it to describe bullshit music today. the same can be said hardcore and metal (BYD, atreyu). MikeOv said:To me, it's a redundant label, because it just sounds like you're trying to say Grindcore. grind evolved from crust punk and therefore has always had strong metal influence. fast hardcore has no inherent metal influence. i've never really recognized a real stylistic difference between fastcore and powerviolence, i was always under the impression that PV was sort of less than serious microgenre used to describe a handful of fast hardcore bands. in closing: I love arguing on the internet and I hope someone here has never heard of crust. |
| ___________________________________ [Aug 3,2009 7:27pm - RichHorror ""] Lamp said:Does anyone else get the impression that a lot of punks are playing ironic black metal these days or at the very least using ironic black metal logos? Definitely. I love the new Tinner shirt design. |
| _____________________________ [Aug 3,2009 7:39pm - Lamp ""] ZJD said:i've never really recognized a real stylistic difference between fastcore and powerviolence, i was always under the impression that PV was sort of less than serious microgenre used to describe a handful of fast hardcore bands. I guess technically you're right, considering that fastcore and powerviolence pretty much go hand in hand anyway and the fans always love both, describing the difference isn't even worth the effort. You know what's funny to me though is that whenever people talk about powerviolence, they'll always say bands like Infest (pre-pv) or Spazz and Charles Bronson (second wave bands) rather than the bands in the song (Crossed Out, No Comment, Manpig, Capitalist Casualties, Man is the Bastard). |
| ____________________________ [Aug 3,2009 7:45pm - ZJD ""] if powerviolence ever had a definitive sound, its crossed out because that's who all the modern 'powerviolence' bands ripoff. the good ones anyway. |
| _____________________________ [Aug 3,2009 7:46pm - Lamp ""] It is kind of a bummer to me that powerviolence has almost become a formula. "Fast part, slow part, fast part, slow part, mid paced part, three chord riffs, got it" I disagree with your assessment too since a lot of what I'd call the best modern powerviolence bands are creating their own unique sounds (Iron Lung, Hummingbird of Death, Lack of Interest's new material, older Weekend Nachos, etc.) |
| ____________________________ [Aug 3,2009 7:48pm - ZJD ""] yeah, contemporary fast hardcore bands that identify as powerviolence are usually pretty unspectacular. still, i'm never going to see crossed out so its fun to see scapegoat and pretend. |
| ____________________________ [Aug 3,2009 7:49pm - ZJD ""] yeah but none of those bands identify as poweviolence, i think weekend nachos is actually staunchly against using the term. |
| _____________________________ [Aug 3,2009 7:49pm - Lamp ""] Seriously, perfect replication. |
| ____________________________ [Aug 3,2009 7:54pm - ZJD ""] did you ever see eunuch before you left? they do the same sort of thing and are pretty great. |
| _____________________________ [Aug 3,2009 8:01pm - Lamp ""] Unfortunately I did not. If I can pass along a couple goodies to you from NC: Obstruction (broke up back in March but god damnit I LOVED this band): http://www.myspace.com/obstructionthrash Wall (Reminds me a lot of Iron Lung but actually has a pretty distinct sound, from Wilmington, the bro capital of North Carolina oddly enough): http://www.myspace.com/wallgrind |
| ________________________________ [Aug 3,2009 8:37pm - W3 nli ""] yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 3,2009 10:36pm - xgodzillax ""] http://terminalnation.blogspot.com another blog to check out! |