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[QUOTE="Anthony%20nli:294275"]BornSoVile said:[QUOTE]I've come to the conclusion that production snobs as well as technicallity snobs are worst than all previous assumptions and presumptions of most black metal elitists. Why is this? It's not exactly like black metal elitists are extrememly aggressive in supporting/denouncing the popular sterotypes that have plauged them for years. Not only have they at times removed themselves for several of these behaviors, but they come to openly embrace it as well. I feel also that their cause is one they support "wholeheartedly" and have constantly done so for quite sometime, thus making them hard targets for accusations of forgery in metal. Now with the pending issue of the production/technical elite. I feel it is not only extremely possilbe but very much real, that these folks are perhaps the most intolerant, ignorant, close minded bunch in the history of music. The whole notion of "if it ain't technical, it ain't good" completly denounces the decades of work laid down by several forefathers of metal, who were more interested in making music out of emotion, rather than outwitting the audience and their peers. Concerning the hatred towards raw production, it might be wise for these folks who criticize works of lesser production value to understand that them, themselves are guilty of sucking cock in order to attain a higher level of consumer popularity and general fame. Even though these fuckers are releasing prestine sounding material, they completly lack the glory, valor and heart that many more underground bands possess. I feel it's right to mention that they're are elitists everywhere, in every genre, state, and continent. Conserning this area however, I feel these snobs have greatly effected and at times crippled in particuarly the local music scene. Just because something isn't at the palladium, or it isn't on a major label, typically is their basis for not supporting a show or band. It's quite sad to realize that some of the biggest elitists out there don't even know they are ones. [/QUOTE] i agree with this very much but I should add that I think that well-produced CDs can have tons of raw power and emotion and I believe that technical music (if it's not just masturbatory), also can be very raw and powerful. If a band/artist makes a well-produced, technical CD because that's just what they're writing and it's real to them, then the good production and technicality shouldnt mean automatically that the whole work is forced or false. Example of an extremely powerful CD with alot of heart that happens to be really well produced: DEATH - The Sound of Perseverance Example of a really technical CD with alot of raw power: CRYPTOPSY - None So Vile I dont really have anything more to comment on the production issue, but in terms of forced technicality, I think a good deal of bands in the emerging tech-grind genre put lots of crazy riffs together and dont write real songs.[/QUOTE]
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