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So it looks like I'm gonna go to school for vidja gaem design.

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[Nov 24,2009 10:05am - DestroyYouAlot ""]
Is this awesome? (Y/N)

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[Nov 24,2009 10:07am - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""]
Where you goin, yo?
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[Nov 24,2009 10:11am - Martins ""]
Y!

I used to make video games with RPG Maker back in the late 90's early 00's. Shit ruled. You should get RPG Maker VX, and post some some forums. There are some amazing people out there. Also, they just released Unreal Engine 2 or 3 or something and that could be cool to fuck around with too.
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[Nov 24,2009 10:12am - Martins ""]
Also, what school? An art school or something like WPI? I know they had some sort of video game program.
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[Nov 24,2009 10:13am - aril  ""]
Good luck. Very demanding market and not many jobs for that right now. I applied to various companies and only heard back from one. The best one in boston right now ia curt schillings company. It's a shame blizzard is in ca, an iD is in tx.
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[Nov 24,2009 10:14am - Martins ""]
I'm pretty sure there's a Bioware something or other not far from here. I think. There's Harmonix too but music games have run their course, imo.
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[Nov 24,2009 10:15am - aril  ""]
I iss the days of writing music
for an independent gaming company. I'm eventually going to apply to companies once my portfolio is a little better
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[Nov 24,2009 10:16am - reimroc ""]

bennyhillifier
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[Nov 24,2009 10:18am - aril  ""]
Yea, I know a kid that helped design maps for one of the lotr games. There's also a company around here licensed by microsoft that just released a history type hack and slash. The name of the game escapes me.
Basically most companies are in CA or TX
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[Nov 24,2009 10:21am - Martins ""]
Yeah. Though I'm doing electrical engineering for a major and computer engineering for a minor, I want to find a way to either weasel myself into the guitar/bass amp industry or the gaming industry. Either become an amp designer or a video game programmer/music writer. Or all three!
I actually just decided today to brush up on my Ruby script and get back to video game making. Like 10 minutes before this post was made. I'm doing some research right now!
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[Nov 24,2009 10:23am - DestroyYouAlot ""]
Looking at New England Tech; they have an 18 month Associate program. You guys will be playing a lot of completely redonkulous /r/-related minigames in the next year or so. LOL
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[Nov 24,2009 10:24am - aril  ""]
Video game music ftw. A few of my old tracking pals wrote music for gameboy advance games.
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[Nov 24,2009 10:28am - arktouros ""]
Yeah, it is. I originally studied CS to do just that.... but the market is too competitive, and I realized that even though the prospect of working with modern game engines is the ultimate puzzle, I couldn't bring myself to sit in an office most of the time, no matter what I was doing (though I do that now...)

There are 2 things you need - a degree from a real university (not DeVry, UofPhoenix, FullSail, etc...) and a bitchin portfolio. You have what it takes to make a killer RPG, or anything else for that matter. I've been wanting to mod the Source engine for years, I would jump at the opportunity to work on a real project if you want to get something started.
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[Nov 24,2009 10:30am - aril  ""]
I'm down too. For music and or design. I've got 100s of video game songs that I wouldn't dare post here.
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[Nov 24,2009 10:31am - DestroyYouAlot ""]
I have some thoughts. Small-unit-based dungeon tactical roguelike goodness.
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[Nov 24,2009 10:31am - Martins ""]
aril, if i get serious about making rpg's again. I might commission some songs from you...though I would be making the majority myself!
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[Nov 24,2009 10:34am - aril  ""]
Sure. But let's hear your stuff. Garage band, fruity loops, and reason don't count!
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[Nov 24,2009 10:36am - arktouros ""]
There's one thing that's hard to come by when working on games - good 2d/3d artists.
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[Nov 24,2009 10:36am - SkinSandwich ""]
Good, make an original Dawn of the Dead game already, FACK!
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[Nov 24,2009 10:39am - arktouros ""]
Steve - just remember before you make the jump -

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[Nov 24,2009 10:40am - aril  ""]

arktouros said:There's one thing that's hard to come by when working on games - good 2d/3d artists.


QFT.

I personally would love to see a good side scrolling (BRING IT BACK) rpg, with good graphics. Kind of like wonderboy games for sega but better.
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[Nov 24,2009 10:44am - xmikex ""]
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[Nov 24,2009 10:48am - Martins ""]
Dude, I was a fucking sick pixel artist years back. Also, aril, I don't use garage band, fruity loops, or reason. I write my midis in noteworthy composer or guitar pro. It's kind of cheating but I don't make it all playable on guitar either. Guitar Pro is actually way harder than Noteworthy Composer for certain things. I know you hate standard notation though.
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[Nov 24,2009 10:49am - aril  ""]
Wha? No i don't. I just disagree with it.
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[Nov 24,2009 10:49am - DestroyYouAlot ""]
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[Nov 24,2009 10:52am - Martins ""]
Oh well. I just use Guitar Pro because it's the best midi program I've found for Mac. Thought I suppose I haven't searched very hard. I'm going to be dual booting 7 anyway so that I can mess with RPG Maker VX so I'll probably snag Noteworthy Composer and I'd like to give whatever program you're using to sequence a try, if it works.
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[Nov 24,2009 10:55am - DestroyYouAlot ""]
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[Nov 24,2009 10:57am - DestroyYouAlot ""]
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[Nov 24,2009 11:04am - aril  ""]
I think those midi programs are too time consuming for what you get out of it but that's just me I guess.
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[Nov 24,2009 11:06am - Martins ""]
Time consuming? You just write out what you want to hear. It's no more time consuming that writing music is time consuming... which it can be. Thought I suppose I don't know how fast working with your tracking program is.
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[Nov 24,2009 11:07am - DestroyYouAlot ""]
SUPER CHIODOS HUNT XL
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[Nov 24,2009 11:10am - aril  ""]
It's much faster when you understand the way tracking functions. It's basically a 2 year learning curve, unless you read the Zen of Tracking.
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[Nov 24,2009 11:17am - pam ""]
Nice! Good luck, fucker.
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[Nov 24,2009 11:19am - Martins ""]
Is that an actual book?
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[Nov 24,2009 11:25am - aril  ""]
Its online.
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[Nov 24,2009 11:34am - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""]
My girlyfriend is toying with the idea of doing some video gameage school. She wants to totally change course from fine art / painting and look into 2d/3d character design. Haven't really done any research on it yet though as far as what's required, what jobs are like, what the demand is like etc.
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[Nov 24,2009 11:39am - narkybark ""]
There's no demand because there's a lot of supply, pay sucks, requirements kinda blow. I was pursuing this for years before I got fed up with it, and now I can't survive on what I would make.
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[Nov 24,2009 11:39am - pam ""]
She totally should!!! DO IT MEL!!
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[Nov 24,2009 11:43am - DestroyYouAlot ""]

narkybark said:There's no demand because there's a lot of supply, pay sucks, requirements kinda blow. I was pursuing this for years before I got fed up with it, and now I can't survive on what I would make.



I'm pretty much banking on my creativity to be able to make myself marketable - i.e., having kickass pet projects to get my foot in the door somewhere. Worst that happens is I at least have a degree and get some layout/design/3d modelling etc. courses that I can apply elsewhere.
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[Nov 24,2009 11:43am - aril  ""]
it's a very challenging market up here. move to CA and your chances increase.
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[Nov 24,2009 11:46am - pam ""]

DestroyYouAlot said:
narkybark said:There's no demand because there's a lot of supply, pay sucks, requirements kinda blow. I was pursuing this for years before I got fed up with it, and now I can't survive on what I would make.



I'm pretty much banking on my creativity to be able to make myself marketable - i.e., having kickass pet projects to get my foot in the door somewhere. Worst that happens is I at least have a degree and get some layout/design/3d modelling etc. courses that I can apply elsewhere.



Don't let people talk you out of it because of demand. It's always worth doing what you love. I'll probably be broke for life but I love being a photographer and can't imagine doing anything else.

You just gotta work hard and stand out. This message brought to you by my mothering side.
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[Nov 24,2009 11:54am - SLAG W/ INTERVENTION  ""]
Steve, let me do the creepy game music! I've always wanted to score a game.
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[Nov 24,2009 11:56am - DestroyYouAlot ""]

aril said:it's a very challenging market up here. move to CA and your chances increase.


NO U


pam said:
DestroyYouAlot said:
narkybark said:There's no demand because there's a lot of supply, pay sucks, requirements kinda blow. I was pursuing this for years before I got fed up with it, and now I can't survive on what I would make.



I'm pretty much banking on my creativity to be able to make myself marketable - i.e., having kickass pet projects to get my foot in the door somewhere. Worst that happens is I at least have a degree and get some layout/design/3d modelling etc. courses that I can apply elsewhere.



Don't let people talk you out of it because of demand. It's always worth doing what you love. I'll probably be broke for life but I love being a photographer and can't imagine doing anything else.

You just gotta work hard and stand out. This message brought to you by my mothering side.



Yeah, I'm pretty set on the idea now. For whatever reason my girl's completely behind it, so that helps. Now I just need a weed dealer that has a lion.
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[Nov 24,2009 12:04pm - DestroyYouAlot ""]

narkybark said:There's no demand because there's a lot of supply, pay sucks, requirements kinda blow. I was pursuing this for years before I got fed up with it, and now I can't survive on what I would make.



Narky, you and I can collaborate on COMPLETELY ABSURD SLAP BASS HERO. The controller has 678 buttons and knobs and levers and it's all Victor Wooten songs.
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[Nov 24,2009 12:11pm - C.Dead  ""]
There is a Rockstar office in Andover actually.

Also, that Karnov DDR had me in tears. Loved that guy/game.
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[Nov 24,2009 12:22pm - xmikex ""]

DestroyYouAlot said:SUPER CHIODOS HUNT XL


Sorry Mortiis, the Chiodo is in another castle.
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[Nov 24,2009 12:35pm - aril  ""]

DestroyYouAlot said:
narkybark said:There's no demand because there's a lot of supply, pay sucks, requirements kinda blow. I was pursuing this for years before I got fed up with it, and now I can't survive on what I would make.



Narky, you and I can collaborate on COMPLETELY ABSURD SLAP BASS HERO. The controller has 678 buttons and knobs and levers and it's all Victor Wooten songs.



Wooten is a tad overrated on slap imo!
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[Nov 24,2009 1:40pm - DestroyYouAlot ""]
LOL
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[Nov 24,2009 1:47pm - aril  ""]
casiopea's bass players > victor ego. Samething with bela fleck. Dude can go suck on a banjodick.
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[Nov 24,2009 1:50pm - xmikex ""]
Codzo 3D.

"You have joined a white power band. GAME OVER."
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[Nov 24,2009 1:53pm - aril  ""]
haha
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[Nov 24,2009 1:56pm - reimroc ""]

aril said:casiopea's bass players > victor ego. Samething with bela fleck. Dude can go suck on a banjodick.


ego or not wooten is pretty damn good.
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[Nov 24,2009 2:02pm - aril  ""]
i'm messing around. Of course he's good. The best? nope.
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[Nov 24,2009 3:45pm - Sacreligion ""]
I've wanted to compose soundtracks for VGs for a long time now but have no idea how to get into the field. My portfolio consists of bands that people on RTTP hate. :THUMBSUP:
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[Nov 24,2009 4:18pm - aril  ""]
ive already made a chiptune bova song if anyone wants to use it.
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[Nov 24,2009 4:34pm - narkybark ""]
Xtreme 8-Bit Bova
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[Nov 25,2009 12:49pm - DestroyYouAlot ""]
Bova Hero - you plug in the controller and then the animated Bova just laughs at you and shreds.
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[Nov 25,2009 1:00pm - narkybark ""]
I think we need to design that.
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[Nov 25,2009 1:35pm - xmikex ""]
Fuck you guys. There's already a Bova video game.

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Scottie Pippen just sits on the bench and renegotiates his contract while Bova tomahawk dunks on the entire eastern conference.
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[Nov 25,2009 1:39pm - narkybark ""]
Does he bust out a hot lick after every dunk?
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[Nov 25,2009 1:42pm - arktouros ""]
HE'S ON FIRE
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[Mar 26,2010 3:12pm - DestroyYouAlot ""]
It's official, registered, financial shit set in stone, books bought, class on Monday. FUCKING SURREAL. Can't wait for my classes on teamkilling fagorts and pwning n00bs.
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[Mar 26,2010 3:13pm - reimroc ""]
nice, very nice. good luck man.
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[Mar 26,2010 3:18pm - arilliusbm ""]
Dark Wor: Battle of Justice

coming soon to stores near you!
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[Mar 26,2010 3:19pm - reimroc ""]

xmikex said:Fuck you guys. There's already a Bova video game.

[img]

Scottie Pippen just sits on the bench and renegotiates his contract while Bova tomahawk dunks on the entire eastern conference.




RAZZLE DAZZLE
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[Mar 26,2010 3:20pm - narkybark ""]
BOOM SHAKA-LAKA
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[Mar 26,2010 3:25pm - arilliusbm ""]
UGLY SHOT
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[Mar 26,2010 4:54pm - DestroyYouAlot ""]
Psyched - the Intro to Game Design book references Baldur's Gate like every 3 pages. (Esp. as an example of the "open-ended RPG" as opposed to the "gay weaboo bullshit railgrinder".) (Not the actual terms used.)
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[Mar 26,2010 5:32pm - bradness so totally at work  ""]

DestroyYouAlot said:It's official, registered, financial shit set in stone, books bought, class on Monday. FUCKING SURREAL. Can't wait for my classes on teamkilling fagorts and pwning n00bs.


fucking killer dude. I'm in my last phase at school, doing Linux. After that it's 20 weeks and I'll have an Associates Degree in Applied Science. Also i need to get the A+ at least. Good Luck!
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[Mar 26,2010 7:30pm - SkinSandwich ""]
DYA posted this my birthday. He owes me pot brownies.
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[Mar 27,2010 1:52am - DestroyYouAlot ""]
Shit, I owe me pot brownies; if I can figure it out, I'll share.
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[Mar 29,2010 2:14pm - DestroyYouAlot ""]
1/2way thru 1st day. There's totally a guy here wearing a Warhammer shirt. Looks like a total weenis. No hot Azn girls, I've been lied to. Fucking with MS Visual Studio nao.
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[Mar 29,2010 2:17pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]
wheres my GTA: Worcester?!
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[Mar 29,2010 2:24pm - arktouros ""]
Hello world!
Ask him if he likes Bolt Thrower.
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[Mar 29,2010 2:44pm - DYA is @ NET  ""]
LOL - just totally finished Hello World v2.0.
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[Mar 29,2010 2:53pm - Randy_Marsh ""]
Champlain College has a very good well known video game design program.
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[Mar 29,2010 3:01pm - arilliusbm ""]
KLIK n PLAY OR GTFO

/THREAD
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[Mar 29,2010 3:07pm - goatcatalyst ""]
Congrats, Steve! Very happy for you. Best of luck!
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[Mar 29,2010 4:07pm - xmikex ""]

DestroyYouAlot said:[img]


way way funnier than it should be
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[Mar 30,2010 10:24am - ark  ""]
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[Mar 30,2010 10:27am - DestroyYouAlot ""]
Leonard Part 6
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[Mar 30,2010 10:28am - arilliusbm ""]
Klik N Play. Please tell me you remember that. The demo came with sim city 2000.
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[Mar 30,2010 11:38am - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""]

ark said:[img]


hahahaha
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[Mar 30,2010 1:09pm - C.DeAd  ""]
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[Apr 11,2010 12:37am - DestroyYouAlot ""]
So I've taken exactly one (1) Photoshoop class. LOL


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[Apr 11,2010 12:53am - i_am_not_me ""]

C.Dead said:There is a Rockstar office in Andover actually.

Also, that Karnov DDR had me in tears. Loved that guy/game.



ITT: Much-needed Karnov love

Imma go play it now. (The actual game, sadly not Dance Dance Karnov)
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[Apr 11,2010 1:17am - IllinoisEnemaBradness ""]
Alex: Where is your monkey?
Dante: He's upstairs putting his nun-chucks away.
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[Apr 12,2010 9:35am - sigh  ""]
Turbine Inc is also located in MA somewhere. I forget which town. They did the LOTR online game. Old college roomate works for them doing level design.

Good luck. Like everyone else has said, it's a very competitive industry and doesn't really compensate that well unless you are the CEO or John Carmack.

Be prepared to do something completely different from what you have in your head that you are going to be doing...for long hours...for shit pay. It's like any other software development project except the content you deal with is more interesting to you.

Not trying to talk you out of it, just sayin.
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[Apr 12,2010 9:43am - sigh  ""]
Steve what area are you planning to focus on? 3d Rendering/animation? Texture artist? programming side of things?
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[Apr 12,2010 9:56am - arilliusbm ""]
Storyboarding?
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[Apr 12,2010 10:00am - sigh  ""]

menstrual_sweatpants_disco said:My girlyfriend is toying with the idea of doing some video gameage school. She wants to totally change course from fine art / painting and look into 2d/3d character design. Haven't really done any research on it yet though as far as what's required, what jobs are like, what the demand is like etc.


Can't say exactly cause I've never pursued it myself but these skills also apply to the film/tv industry since almost everything is filmed on a green screen these days an painted in later. I'm hoping those movie studios open up on the south shore. Last I heard there were financing issues.
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[Apr 12,2010 10:42am - arilliusbm ""]
Looks like those studios may fall through. The only way it can happen is if they have the financial backing.
The company they got the loans from didn't have the money they said.
Part of me wants those studios to open up... I'll definitely be hanging around there after I blow thousands in the middleboro casino.
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[Apr 12,2010 10:54am - arktouros ""]

arilliusbm said:Scrapbooking?
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[Apr 12,2010 12:41pm - DestroyYouAlot ""]

sigh said:Steve what area are you planning to focus on? 3d Rendering/animation? Texture artist? programming side of things?



Programming / slash / design, hopefully - planning on pimping my own pet projects more than trying to work my way through the ranks, but we'll see how it goes. I've got the game design chops from pen-and-paper shit over the years, it's just picking up a programming language newer than Basic (what I learned on).
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[Apr 12,2010 4:28pm - sigh  ""]
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/aa937791.aspx

or you could go the openGL route and be 1337
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[Apr 12,2010 5:11pm - DestroyYouAlot ""]
Tx d00d
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[Apr 12,2010 5:30pm - narkybark ""]
I gave up pursuing this field years ago. I think I've had interviews with almost every MA company, several of which don't exist anymore.
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[Apr 12,2010 5:35pm - arilliusbm ""]
like I said, klik n play or get the fuck out
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[Apr 12,2010 5:36pm - blessed offal  ""]

xmikex said:Fuck you guys. There's already a Bova video game.

[img]

Scottie Pippen just sits on the bench and renegotiates his contract while Bova tomahawk dunks on the entire eastern conference.



this is my favorite post of all time.
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[Apr 27,2010 1:54pm - DestroyYouAlot ""]
RTTP Games vol. 1:

http://returntothepit.com/view.php?formid=68594
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[Apr 27,2010 2:19pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]
totally checking that out later tonight

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