Jesse Venturas show "conspiracy theory" starts this week
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[Nov 30,2009 10:25am - aril ""]
Another lame Monday morning thread.
The show is on tru tv, formerly court tv.
Wednesday night. I'll be sure as fuck watching it. You should too.
[Nov 30,2009 10:26am - Martins ""]
What conspiracy theories though? Need some good shit.
[Nov 30,2009 10:31am - aril ""]
A bunch. There's 8 episodes from what I remember. Even a 9/11 one
he was going to have the govt speak about their side of the story but they never responded to any of his requests on any of the conspiracies.
Btw, worcester people - chemtrails galore in the blackstone valley over the weekend.
[Nov 30,2009 10:40am - FuckIsMySignature ""]
aril said:Btw, worcester people - chemtrails galore in the blackstone valley over the weekend.
ya been seein them more at night too.
[Nov 30,2009 10:42am - aril ""]
Yes. There was a bunch saturday night. Looked like a grid layout. Couldn't get good pictures.
[Nov 30,2009 10:53am - arktouros ""]
all jets leave trails you nutbags.
[Nov 30,2009 10:54am - aril ""]
lol
[Nov 30,2009 10:54am - arktouros ""]
But Jesse Ventura is a good American and I'll be checking this out
[Nov 30,2009 11:01am - porphyria ""]
if he starts arguing that the towers were detonated I'm shutting it off and watching predator.
[Nov 30,2009 11:05am - anr0ld ""]
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[Nov 30,2009 11:05am - aril ""]
He was a demolitions expert in the military and that's what he argues. Looks like you're in luck.
[Nov 30,2009 11:07am - aril ""]
And I don't see why that's a major flaw when most 1st responders reported that..
[Nov 30,2009 11:09am - FuckIsMySignature ""]
chemicals in my contrails? its more likely than you think
[Nov 30,2009 11:12am - porphyria ""]
aril said:He was a demolitions expert in the military and that's what he argues. Looks like you're in luck.
absurd! It doesn't take a physics expert to understand that the towers collapsed due to weakening, not complete failure. Just because engineers claimed the towers could withstand a jet crashing into them doesn't mean shit, was it ever tested and proven to scale? no. Having the weight 20-30 floors above the weakened breaking point would cause the rapid fall (with no visual 'pancaking'). When they mention explosions on floors below the collapse, WELL DUH, imagine how much air/pressure is being pushed down throughout the building during collapse, of course it's going to make windows blow out, ect.
[Nov 30,2009 11:13am - porphyria ""]
aril said:And I don't see why that's a major flaw when most 1st responders reported that..
yeah, and people also initially reported that the jet explosions were bombs, not jets.
[Nov 30,2009 11:13am - aril ""]
Valid points. But At least don't turn the other way when alternate theories are presented.
[Nov 30,2009 11:13am - FuckIsMySignature ""]
wait i thought the buildings collapsed because of Hulk Hogan?
[Nov 30,2009 11:16am - Martins ""]
Every conspiracy theory is part of a much larger conspiracy theory tricking you into thinking that you're being tricked when everything is actually pretty normal.
[Nov 30,2009 11:19am - aril ""]
9/11 is such a touchy subject. I love it. Everyone always looks like an idiot in the end, truthers and mainstream believers alike.
[Nov 30,2009 11:21am - porphyria ""]
this video explains the weakening pretty well and shows visual proof...
bennyhillifier
[Nov 30,2009 11:22am - arktouros ""]
the CIA has no doubt been involved in crazy shit around the world since it's inception. but if the govt can't hide something like the pentagon papers, they don't have the ability to carry out a job like 9/11.
if they did, well shit i dunno. who wants a beer?
[Nov 30,2009 11:24am - aril ""]
http://www.ae911truth.org/
[Nov 30,2009 11:36am - porphyria ""]
1. Destruction proceeds through the path of greatest resistance at nearly free-fall acceleration
DUH. If the planes had crashed at the very top of the each tower they might have withstood, it was the weight of multiple floors above each crash point, of course it's going to fall quickly with that much weight above.
2. Improbable symmetry of debris distribution
hahaha, okay, so how is a 100 floor building 'suppose' to collapse, into a nice neat pile easy to clean?
14. No precedent for steel-framed high-rise collapse due to fire
Yeah, when was the last time two jetliners filled with fuel crash into the twin towers at 400-500mph+? oh wait, never.
[Nov 30,2009 11:49am - porphyria ""]
bennyhillifier
[Nov 30,2009 1:59pm - mattkings ""]
porphyria said:1. Destruction proceeds through the path of greatest resistance at nearly free-fall acceleration
DUH. If the planes had crashed at the very top of the each tower they might have withstood, it was the weight of multiple floors above each crash point, of course it's going to fall quickly with that much weight above.
2. Improbable symmetry of debris distribution
hahaha, okay, so how is a 100 floor building 'suppose' to collapse, into a nice neat pile easy to clean?
14. No precedent for steel-framed high-rise collapse due to fire
Yeah, when was the last time two jetliners filled with fuel crash into the twin towers at 400-500mph+? oh wait, never.
Stop using logic. Where arr da plane parts at de pentagon durrrrrrrrrrr
[Nov 30,2009 6:18pm - ArrowHeadNLI ""]
aril said:9/11 is such a touchy subject. I love it. Everyone always looks like an idiot in the end,
You mean like avenging the deaths of 3000 citizens by sending more than 4000 to die on foreign soil with no end in sight for almost ten years, not to mention 30,000 wounded?
Yeah, we Americans are a silly bunch.
[Nov 30,2009 6:19pm - ArrowHeadNLI ""]
porphyria said:this video explains the weakening pretty well and shows visual proof...
bennyhillifier
fighting youtube driven conspiracy theories with youtube driven defenses makes you BOTH end up looking bonkers.
[Nov 30,2009 6:23pm - Dankill ""]
I was gonna say.....Didn't POPULAR MECHANICS have an entire issue dedicated to the 9/11 theories? Most of which were proven to not be true?
[Nov 30,2009 6:26pm - porphyria ""]
yep, so bonkers.
[Nov 30,2009 6:28pm - porphyria ""]
Dankill said:I was gonna say.....Didn't POPULAR MECHANICS have an entire issue dedicated to the 9/11 theories? Most of which were proven to not be true?
National Geographic did as well and guess what, theorist's still found some way to 'discredit' them. It's almost like arguing the existence of god with a Christian, you'll never win in their mind.
[Nov 30,2009 6:34pm - aril ""]
bah not gonna waste time posting rebuttals or alternative theories, everyone is entitled to their beliefs
[Nov 30,2009 6:34pm - aril ""]
think about who owns MEDIA
[Nov 30,2009 6:36pm - aril ""]
ArrowHeadNLI said:
aril said:9/11 is such a touchy subject. I love it. Everyone always looks like an idiot in the end,
You mean like avenging the deaths of 3000 citizens by sending more than 4000 to die on foreign soil with no end in sight for almost ten years, not to mention 30,000 wounded?
Yeah, we Americans are a silly bunch.
millions displaced as well. it's not a pretty sight.
[Nov 30,2009 6:49pm - porphyria ""]
citizens = military personnel. No one forced them to sign up and serve but thankfully they stepped up as most of us wouldn't dare. Last time I checked we didn't have a draft, just sayin'.
It completely blows how many people have been hurt through all this b.s. but islamic extremists goal is to penetrate us from every possible angle (on our soil, british soil, ect.) and so far they're winning regardless of our presence in their countries. I'm not sure how pulling out of Afghanistan would make for a shitty situation better...
[Nov 30,2009 6:55pm - mattkings ""]
has you guys watchedd lose change!!!#@#!! durrrrrrrrrr
[Nov 30,2009 8:02pm - ArrowHeadNLI ""]
porphyria said:I'm not sure how pulling out of Afghanistan would make for a shitty situation better...
Pulling out? No, see we avenged the deaths of our 3000 citizens killed by afghani terrorists by sending 4000+ soldiers (citizens also, as you say) to die in IRAQ, and 30,000 more wounded. What does pulling out of Afghanistan have to do with this otherwise incredibly logical situation?
[Nov 30,2009 8:05pm - ArrowHeadNLI ""]
mattkings said:has you guys watchedd lose change!!!#@#!! durrrrrrrrrr
Loose Change makes me wish 911 was MY fault, just so I could piss all those whining pussy conspiracy nuts. OMG THE ROCKERFELLAS ARE HEAD OF THE NWO< >>>!@! THEY ARE GOING TO CREATE ONE WORLD GOVT> AND RFID CHIP UOY AND FEED YOU SOILENT GREEN>>>>>>>>>
As if the world hasn't been like this all along anyway, retards.
[Dec 1,2009 12:06pm - Mr. KNow it All ""]
Well this sucks, MSNBC has pulled the plug on Venturas show for not supporting the war.
[Dec 1,2009 12:29pm - porphyria ""]
Mr.%20KNow%20it%20All said:Well this sucks, MSNBC has pulled the plug on Venturas show for not supporting the war.
back in 2003...
"He claims he was “silenced” at his last TV gig, the short-lived 2003 MSNBC show “Jesse Ventura’s America,” because he opposed the war in Iraq."
[Dec 1,2009 12:30pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]
wtf.
[Dec 1,2009 12:33pm - DestroyYouAlot ""]
Here's a conspiracy theory for Mr. Ventura: MR FUJI BLEW GREEN SMOKE INTO THE EYES OF THE PILOT OF FLIGHT 93
FUS DID WTC
[Dec 1,2009 12:35pm - brian_dc ""]
Multiple Bonzai Drops to the Pentagon
[Dec 1,2009 12:46pm - aril ""]
Wait so this was cancelled?
[Dec 1,2009 12:53pm - Yeti ""]
i could care less how 9/11 happened, there will never be any proof in either direction. all i care about is that it destroyed society, the pre-9/11 world i grew up in was so much better.
[Dec 1,2009 1:11pm - aril ""]
patriot act is awesome. hi Feds, you like my posts on Boston.com today? What's that? I'm banned again!
[Dec 1,2009 1:17pm - arktouros ""]
Yeti said:i could care less how 9/11 happened, there will never be any proof in either direction. all i care about is that it destroyed society, the pre-9/11 world i grew up in was so much better.
so long as a country is forced to fight a war with extremists, the extremists already win.
[Dec 2,2009 8:56am - TruTV ""]
bennyhillifier
[Dec 2,2009 9:12am - largefreakatzero ""]
He's on Howard now.
[Dec 2,2009 9:16am - ouchdrummer ""]
arktouros said:
Yeti said:i could care less how 9/11 happened, there will never be any proof in either direction. all i care about is that it destroyed society, the pre-9/11 world i grew up in was so much better.
so long as a country is forced to fight a war with extremists, the extremists already win.
I watched a program last night on GBH World about how the Islamic world views the Jewish world/the Israeli state. Alot of the violence wouldn't even happen if their own government wasn't feeding them lies about Israel controlling the US and the UN in order to control the world. Wacky stuff, the "historical" shows that are shown to arabs from when they're children are FULL of anti-semetic propaganda claiming that the state of Israel/the jews are evil, drink the blood of innocent boys, etc... total madness.
[Dec 2,2009 9:45am - aril ""]
It's anti-Zionism.
It's a Zionist occupation government that bulldozes neighborhoods, commits war crimes with bombs intended to harm civilians (mirvs and even white phosphate - which is banned),and has nukes, yet are not part of the treaty. Which , mind you America and the UN ignores the fact Israel has nukes. Iran is part of the treaty yet we scold them for a plant we knew about 2 years ago.
They have every reason to be anti-ZOG. It has nothing to do with anti-semitism; it's anti-terrorism, which clearly Israel leads the middle east in.
[Dec 2,2009 9:58am - aril ""]
To make a long story short: israels Zionist Occipation govt is corrupt, theocratic middle eastern thought clouds Arabic minds, our media is owned by zionists, and world war III will start over there sometime soon. Can't wait.
This is why you see more Jewish people holding up anti-zog signs these days. Which is a good sight.
[Dec 2,2009 10:12am - brian_dc ""]
Lizard People in the Pacific Northwest wearing tin foil hats and praying to the sun god.
[Dec 2,2009 10:18am - aril ""]
brian_dc said:Lizard People in the Pacific Northwest wearing tin foil hats and praying to the sun god.
exactly. Mt. Shasta ftw.
[Dec 2,2009 10:27am - ouchdrummer ""]
aril said:It's anti-Zionism.
It's a Zionist occupation government that bulldozes neighborhoods, commits war crimes with bombs intended to harm civilians (mirvs and even white phosphate - which is banned),and has nukes, yet are not part of the treaty. Which , mind you America and the UN ignores the fact Israel has nukes. Iran is part of the treaty yet we scold them for a plant we knew about 2 years ago.
They have every reason to be anti-ZOG. It has nothing to do with anti-semitism; it's anti-terrorism, which clearly Israel leads the middle east in.
It's funny, cause the special was pretty much about your response exactly. Did you know that far before the occupation, and far before the war crimes you're talking about, that Arab leaders have repeatedly called for Israel (and all the jews it contains) to be blown off of the map? I am not taking sides here, as this is one of the most confusing conflicts in recorded history. But you should watch the special i saw last night. Really blew me away, and i would be willing to bet that it would surprise you too.
[Dec 2,2009 10:30am - aril ""]
Israel is complicated.
It really goes back thousands of years and is still a tribal battle. Most israeli nationals are of eastern european or Russian heritage. In a way, I can understand why the Palestinians and Iranians, etc oppose it. I don't take sides either but I think Israel is a FAILED concept.
[Dec 2,2009 10:31am - ouchdrummer ""]
The fact that Israel has responded with terrorism with warcrimes/terrorism is OBVIOUSLY not justifiable, but to think that Israel was doing those things just to spite/conquer Palestine is not true. There was a whole segment about all of the truly anti-semitic teachings that an overwhelming majority of the arab world is taught from childhood. Nice anti-Israel as you would believe, but truly anti-jew, with conspiracy theorys up the wazooo to boot.
[Dec 2,2009 10:31am - ouchdrummer ""]
talk about it over lunch? Can i have some of your pee?