The repercussions of leaving a tube head in a frozen car for 8 hours?[views:12265][posts:72]_____________________________________ [Dec 17,2009 10:57am - arilliusbm ""] Stupid post, but I generally try to avoid doing this stuff. Seeing how cold it is outside, would this fuck the head up? Had no choice.. |
| __________________________________ [Dec 17,2009 10:59am - Martins ""] In and of itself, no. But when you want to play, leave it at room temperature for a while. Going from cold temperature to hot quickly could break the glass or the filament. You're fine if you just let it come back up to room temperature. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 17,2009 11:00am - arilliusbm ""] Ok thanks. That's what I thought. That's what I don't want happening. |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 17,2009 11:00am - Chris Henry ""] Would this work for me? |
| __________________________________ [Dec 17,2009 11:02am - Martins ""] Tubes aren't this crazy delicate technology that some people think they are. |
| __________________________________ [Dec 17,2009 11:02am - Martins ""] Chris%20Henry said:Would this work for me? No. Your power tubes are blown. |
| ___________________________________ [Dec 17,2009 11:02am - brian_dc ""] Yep, what Martins said. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 17,2009 11:03am - arilliusbm ""] What about leaving frozen heads in a car for 8 hours? Would the cops arrest me? |
| __________________________________ [Dec 17,2009 11:04am - Martins ""] If you let them come back up to room temperature, you get an abbreviated sentence. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 17,2009 11:05am - arilliusbm ""] Ok thanks. That's what I thought. That's what I want to happen. |
| __________________________________ [Dec 17,2009 11:07am - Martins ""] You have an H+K right? I've been hearing a lot about them lately. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 17,2009 11:12am - arilliusbm ""] Valveking with upgrades tubes. My SS is H&K.. But the other guitarist in hollagrim had a tubed h&k. Greeaat sound IMO. |
| __________________________________ [Dec 17,2009 11:13am - Martins ""] You know, Valvekings are great amps. I was really surprised at the tones I could get out of Eliot's old one. What tubes did you "upgrade" to? JJs I would hope. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 17,2009 11:15am - arilliusbm ""] I can't remember the exact type but I believe JJs. I bought it used. The h&k tube models blow me away everytime I hear them. It just sucks that there not many aithorized dealers around here. There's one in providence that not bad. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 17,2009 11:16am - arilliusbm ""] Phonegrish ftw. |
| __________________________________ [Dec 17,2009 11:18am - Martins ""] Zimbloth, (his user name at Sevenstring.org but I think his real name is Nick) who runs/owns The Axe Palace in Walpole is trying to become an authorized dealer. He has so much great shit there too. Never been there myself but his website lists all the good gear you'll ever need. http://www.axepalace.com/ |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 17,2009 11:23am - arilliusbm ""] That would be cool. Underappeciated company imho. But I don't know shit. |
| __________________________________ [Dec 17,2009 11:24am - Martins ""] I want to get their tubeman pedal but I'm not buying anymore gear for a while besides a delay pedal and maybe a Peavey Rockmaster. |
| __________________________________________ [Dec 17,2009 12:10pm - metal_church101 ""] Martins said:You know, Valvekings are great amps. I was really surprised at the tones I could get out of Eliot's old one. What tubes did you "upgrade" to? JJs I would hope. |
| _____________________________________________ [Dec 17,2009 12:37pm - Martins First Act ""] Martins said:I want to get their tubeman pedal but I'm not buying anymore gear until I learn how to play better. FIXED |
| __________________________________ [Dec 17,2009 12:40pm - Martins ""] Let's have a shred-off-a-thon |
| __________________________________ [Dec 17,2009 12:45pm - Martins ""] The last time 99% of RttPers could have seen me play was at a Dover Brickhouse show almost two years ago. I've gotten WAY worse since then. |
| _______________________________ [Dec 17,2009 12:57pm - blue ""] Martins said:Tubes aren't this crazy delicate technology that some people think they are. This |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 17,2009 1:01pm - arilliusbm ""] I'm pretty sure aliens made tubes. |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 17,2009 1:57pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] Al Gore made a series of tubes. |
| ___________________________________ [Dec 17,2009 2:02pm - arktouros ""] Last Thursday someone sent me an Internet....and I didn't even get it until Friday. It's not just some dumptruck you can load anything onto. |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 17,2009 2:05pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] [img] |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 17,2009 5:21pm - WarriorOfMetal ""] Martins said:Zimbloth, (his user name at Sevenstring.org but I think his real name is Nick) who runs/owns The Axe Palace in Walpole is trying to become an authorized dealer. He has so much great shit there too. Never been there myself but his website lists all the good gear you'll ever need. http://www.axepalace.com/ Yes, his name is Nick...he's one of the guitarists in Nemecide. He'd already become a dealer by the time you posted this :LOL: |
| _________________________________ [Dec 17,2009 6:05pm - sxealex ""] Martins said:Tubes aren't this crazy delicate technology that some people think they are. if you consider a lightbulb delicate its pretty much the same shit |
| _________________________________ [Dec 17,2009 6:12pm - sxealex ""] blue said: This *runs outside, grabs blues head, runs inside, turns it up, plugs in guitar, plays open chord, plugs amp into outlet, lulz at result* |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 17,2009 6:16pm - arilliusbm ""] sxealex said: Martins said:Tubes aren't this crazy delicate technology that some people think they are. if you consider a lightbulb delicate its pretty much the same shit haha yea |
| ______________________________ [Dec 18,2009 3:40am - blue ""] sxealex said: blue said: This *runs outside, grabs blues head, runs inside, turns it up, plugs in guitar, plays open chord, plugs amp into outlet, lulz at result* FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 18,2009 10:00am - JustinSteele ""] The only concern I would have is condensation caused from bringing the amp from cold to warm/hot environments. The resulting water could get into the pots or any other components. It's not a guarantee, but just a concern. I have heard that wrapping your gear in plastic bags can prevent condensation but I've never tried it. Having done some touring in the winter, we've left gear in the cold and brought it right into sweltering venues, then back and forth etc. No real issues to report. |
| ____________________________________________ [Dec 18,2009 10:04am - FuckIsMySignature ""] suggestions for tube replacement? also does continued use of an amp with one tube blown affect the amp negatively? |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 18,2009 10:06am - arilliusbm ""] Yea. I never really had issues before. The condensation was a small concern but overall, it's fine. Thanks for the replies, including martins <3 |
| __________________________________ [Dec 18,2009 10:07am - Martins ""] What kind of tubes are you looking to replace. For your other question, it depends. A blown preamp tube will fuck shit up. Some amps allow you to remove two power tubes for half wattage. If one of your power tubes is blown and your amps allow this, you could pull out its partner and be safe. Otherwise, yes. |
| ___________________________________ [Dec 18,2009 10:09am - brian_dc ""] I'm doing a complete retube in a few weeks because epic studio time commences at the end of next month. My amps shall be fresh as fuck. |
| __________________________________ [Dec 18,2009 10:10am - Martins ""] I want to do a full retube as well for epic tonez but now that I have 12 tubez and I want them all to be selected for high gain, I'm fucked $$wise. |
| __________________________________ [Dec 18,2009 10:11am - Martins ""] You probably have even more tubez. |
| ___________________________________ [Dec 18,2009 10:12am - brian_dc ""] oy...yeah, only 2 power and and 2 pre in my Bad Cat, which is nice since I need to replace the power section after 6-8 months (the downside of Class A). The ENGL is 4 and 4, but I changed out the Preamp a few months ago, so that can obviously wait. |
| __________________________________ [Dec 18,2009 10:14am - Martins ""] I need to get some sweet E34Ls for the ADA side of my TS100. Though I might be replacing the ADA with a Peavey Rockmaster for more metuhlz. Probably would sound sweet with that too. |
| ___________________________________ [Dec 18,2009 10:19am - brian_dc ""] Martins said:You probably have even more tubez. Looks like we're tied at 12. |
| ___________________________________ [Dec 18,2009 10:20am - brian_dc ""] combo of EL34s and 6l6s are definitely a win. My amp repair dude is pushing KT66s on me. I may experiment more after the studio. |
| ____________________________________________ [Dec 18,2009 10:20am - FuckIsMySignature ""] between needing new tubes and a new catalytic (sp?) converter this holiday season is bullshit. |
| __________________________________ [Dec 18,2009 10:20am - Martins ""] If I get the rockmaster, I'll have 14, then my dick is bigger. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 18,2009 10:23am - arilliusbm ""] This thread should have been marked gear. Fucking newb OP. |
| __________________________________ [Dec 18,2009 10:25am - Martins ""] FuckIsMySignature said:between needing new tubes and a new catalytic (sp?) converter this holiday season is bullshit. I almost needed to replace my catalytic converter a while back. Would have had to spend half a month's pay to fix that shit. Shit sucks. Just buy tubes. Tone > transportation. |
| ___________________________________ [Dec 18,2009 10:26am - brian_dc ""] tone > all |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 18,2009 10:29am - arilliusbm ""] being able to use the tone in good music > tone |
| __________________________________ [Dec 18,2009 10:30am - Martins ""] I was so disappointed with the outcome of the Archaeon cd. Sounded horrible. |
| __________________________________ [Dec 18,2009 10:30am - Martins ""] Plus, the music sucks. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 18,2009 10:31am - arilliusbm ""] I thought it sounded good. |
| __________________________________ [Dec 18,2009 10:32am - Martins ""] Listen to the left side. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 18,2009 10:38am - arilliusbm ""] It's an ep. |
| __________________________________ [Dec 18,2009 10:41am - Martins ""] Don't care. We played through his nice 1x12 Orange cab but I have a feeling it was rated well below 100W. Speaker distortion (in a bad way) all over the place, nevermind the little Orange logo hitting the mic sometimes from the crazy vibration. Wasn't a very good room to record in. We still got an awesome deal and Ryan was a great guy to record with. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 18,2009 10:45am - arilliusbm ""] I guess you're that critical of it because it's yours. But I think the sound fits it well or being an ep. |
| __________________________________ [Dec 18,2009 10:48am - Martins ""] Whatever, in the future we'd probably be recording at the studio Eliot works at and he would be engineering it. He's a wizard behind the console. |
| __________________________________ [Dec 18,2009 10:48am - Martins ""] Lol, though I guess by we I mean me and Eliot anyway haha. |
| _______________________________ [Dec 18,2009 12:43pm - blue ""] Your fault for recording through ryans tiny terror 1x12 and not a 4x12 brah. Definetly well under 100 watts rated. |
| _________________________________ [Dec 18,2009 1:37pm - Martins ""] Whatever dude. Didn't know shit then. Pretty sure I had just found out what a power tube was. |
| ______________________________ [Dec 18,2009 3:03pm - blue ""] Yah I know. Just ragging on you. Wish my first real band's recording sounded liek that. |
| __________________________________ [Dec 18,2009 3:08pm - brian_dc ""] Two words: Spider Gates |
| ______________________________ [Dec 18,2009 3:42pm - blue ""] See? Told ya. Back on topic: can't wait to throw a quad of SED winged C 6L6s in my Dual Rec. Them with some Tung-Sol 12AX7s = SEX |
| __________________________________ [Dec 18,2009 3:46pm - brian_dc ""] When did you get a Dual Rec? 2-channel, I assume? |
| __________________________________ [Dec 18,2009 3:46pm - brian_dc ""] I stand by the SED wing C's. I have them in my ENGL and will be putting the EL34s in my Lynx upon Dave Martinka suggestionage. |
| _________________________________ [Dec 18,2009 4:07pm - Martins ""] Blue's Dual Rec is one of the best things. Ever. |
| __________________________________ [Dec 18,2009 4:08pm - brian_dc ""] I had one of the 3 channel ones. Was my first tube amp. Honestly, I haven't missed it a bit since selling it. |
| _________________________________ [Dec 18,2009 4:15pm - Martins ""] Martins said:Blue's Dual Rec is one of the best things. Ever. |
| __________________________________ [Dec 18,2009 4:15pm - brian_dc ""] Yeah, I'm not doubting his is good. |
| _________________________________ [Dec 18,2009 4:18pm - Martins ""] brian_dc said:Yeah, I'm not doubting his is god. |
| ______________________________ [Dec 18,2009 4:23pm - blue ""] brian_dc said:When did you get a Dual Rec? 2-channel, I assume? I definitely told you about it when I first got it. Obtained it in June-ish for a fantastic deal. Two channel obviously, #001757 made. 1994ish. |
| __________________________________ [Dec 18,2009 4:24pm - brian_dc ""] This rings a bell. Our relationship has been reduced to bumping into each other at Eyehategod. |
| ______________________________ [Dec 18,2009 5:05pm - blue ""] I know, its sad. I'm going to come to a mast show sooner or later, but you guys won't play outside of RI. |