attn: Behemoth[views:7899][posts:117]_______________________________ [Jan 11,2010 10:39am - Yeti ""] why do you have to suck now? your early stuff kicks so much ass. i guess being good just wasn't your thing. |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 11,2010 10:42am - arilliusbm ""] Because image is everything. |
| _______________________________ [Jan 11,2010 10:43am - Yeti ""] yeah, Nergal is a homo. |
| ___________________________________ [Jan 11,2010 10:44am - Archaeon ""] black metal is gay. New behemoth is awesome. |
| _______________________________ [Jan 11,2010 10:45am - Yeti ""] well thank you for that. |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 11,2010 11:28am - demondave ""] see, all settled now |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 11,2010 3:18pm - ouchdrummer ""] i like behemoth. |
| ______________________________ [Jan 11,2010 3:19pm - Yeti ""] i like the first demo stuff. anything new is painfully awful. they were terrible live too. |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 11,2010 3:22pm - ouchdrummer ""] not true, i like the new stuff. |
| ______________________________ [Jan 11,2010 3:24pm - Yeti ""] i will give them credit where it's due though, that drummer is a beast. |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 11,2010 3:25pm - quintessence ""] Yeti said:i like the first demo stuff. anything new is painfully awful. they were terrible live too. omgz but they windmikll their hair like dethklok! and were masks! omgz so good! |
| ___________________________________________ [Jan 11,2010 3:31pm - MikeofdecrepitudE ""] Archaeon said:black metal is gay. New behemoth is awesome. It's awesome if you like :bartmoon: metal. Sventevith and Grom are the only decent Behemoth recordings. |
| ___________________________________________ [Jan 11,2010 3:49pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] early 1900's blues > black metal |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 11,2010 3:53pm - arilliusbm ""] rock and/or metal wouldn't exist if early 1900 blues never came about. Blues wouldn't exist if slavery didn't exist in the 1800s, as evidence shows that early blues came about from the woes of being chained up and being treated like shit. so essentially black people are the reason why blues and rock exists, therefore early 1900s blues = black metal. |
| ___________________________________________ [Jan 11,2010 4:06pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] i dont give a shit about the origins ... i'm talking about the sound of the music and the attitudes of the people playing it |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 11,2010 4:22pm - arilliusbm ""] Oh. I was just making a connection. :'( |
| ___________________________________________ [Jan 11,2010 4:27pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] ya i'm just in shit ass mood today. fuck everything blah |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 11,2010 4:45pm - ouchdrummer ""] FuckIsMySignature said:i dont give a shit about the origins ... i'm talking about the sound of the music and the attitudes of the people playing it where as i only care about the sound of the music. I could care less about their attitudes or the stupid clothes/masks they wear. Also, the drumming inferno does is 98.4% of the reason i like it, and i think his drumming is good enough to justify it. So fuck you fools. |
| ___________________________________________ [Jan 11,2010 4:52pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] ouchdrummer said: So fuck you fools. wow harsh |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 11,2010 5:01pm - ouchdrummer ""] eat it bitch!! |
| _______________________________ [Jan 11,2010 5:02pm - Slymo ""] i like the new stuff. the drummer is a wicked light tapper from what i'm to understand (he's trigger abuser) |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 11,2010 5:03pm - ouchdrummer ""] maybe you haven't seen him play, yes he triggers, no he doesn't tap. He's a beast, he's like 6'5 and definitely slams the drums. |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 11,2010 5:05pm - goatcatalyst ""] Y'all should check out the drummer's other band if you haven't already. here's my favorite. first track is a fucking ripper. Azarath - Infernal Blasting http://www.mediafire.com/?bk0b4s1icmg |
| _______________________________ [Jan 11,2010 5:08pm - Slymo ""] well that good news because i really like behemoth allot. |
| _______________________________ [Jan 11,2010 5:09pm - Slymo ""] getting it now |
| _______________________________ [Jan 11,2010 5:15pm - Slymo ""] This fucking ripps |
| ___________________________________ [Jan 11,2010 5:40pm - barbeloh ""] arilliusbm said:rock and/or metal wouldn't exist if early 1900 blues never came about. Blues wouldn't exist if slavery didn't exist in the 1800s, as evidence shows that early blues came about from the woes of being chained up and being treated like shit. so essentially black people are the reason why blues and rock exists, therefore early 1900s blues = black metal. they made a metalocalypse episode about Robert Johnson too |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 11,2010 5:41pm - immortal13 ""] I lost interest in this band as quickly as I gained it. |
| ___________________________________ [Jan 11,2010 5:42pm - barbeloh ""] goatcatalyst said:Y'all should check out the drummer's other band if you haven't already. here's my favorite. first track is a fucking ripper. Azarath - Infernal Blasting http://www.mediafire.com/?bk0b4s1icmg thanks for spreading His Word, goat CHRIST..........FUCKING SCUUUUUUUUUUMMM |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 11,2010 6:20pm - quintessence ""] Azarath also has members of Thunderbolt! who are mighty and also wipe the floor with Behemoth. |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 11,2010 6:23pm - the_reverend ""] i really like azarath. |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 11,2010 6:54pm - arktonaut ""] ouchdrummer said: FuckIsMySignature said:i dont give a shit about the origins ... i'm talking about the sound of the music and the attitudes of the people playing it where as i only care about the sound of the music. I could care less about their attitudes or the stupid clothes/masks they wear. Also, the drumming inferno does is 98.4% of the reason i like it, and i think his drumming is good enough to justify it. So fuck you fools. yeahhh. i like evangelon, and most of their other stuff. say what you want about nergal but he puts a lot of work into his lyrics. it's accessible fast evil death metal. what's wrong with that. they're solid dudes and they cover turbonegro live. |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 11,2010 7:14pm - ArilliusBM ""] bennyhillifier nergal without paint and/or props. |
| ________________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 1:18am - DestroyYouAlot ""] Black metal > Behemoth |
| ______________________________ [Jan 12,2010 7:34am - Yeti ""] arktonaut said:it's accessible fast evil death metal. what's wrong with that. "accessibility" is a horrible word to use with "death metal". in today's "modern death metal" world, they do fit. half-assed riffs and monotonous vocals littered with quasi-intelligent lyrics and amazing drumming. they just seem like they stopped trying, just like Dimmu Borgir. they found an easy market in kids who really don't know anything about the genre they have adopted, and will buy anything they are told is cool. i mean yeah in business it makes sense, but there in lies the problem. a band like this along with Dimmu, Cradle of Filth, etc. got lazy and relied on production to compensate for boring song-writing. though that is the opinion of an old fart who thinks that modern day anything is the devil so take it with a grain of salt. |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 8:05am - arilliusbm ""] I like the way you think, Master Yeti. The force Is strong with you. |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 8:16am - arktonaut ""] death metal has always been accessible. |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 8:18am - Slagadoccio ""] arktonaut said:death metal has never nor will ever be accessible. Fixed. |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 8:35am - arilliusbm ""] In the 90s death metal was usually taboo, especially in the mid 90s when politicians like BOB DOLE thought it was "too accesible" and bands like cannibal corpse were the reason why a few murders here and there happened. I believe I remember him reading lyrics outloud or something to that matter. I would easily argue that death metal is more "accesible" today given there's an idiotic unfunny cartoon about it, among others. |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 8:37am - arilliusbm ""] I guess it all depends on what you'd mean by "accessible" |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 8:46am - ouchdrummer ""] arktonaut said:death metal has always been accessible. I think deathmetal is, and has been, VERY accessible for a long time. It only became cool to be in-accessible within recent years. Although the people listening to it would never tell you that, they would say the reason they play/listen to such music is because they ARE different from everyone else. |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 8:46am - arktonaut ""] nah, the second wave of black metal started for no reason in particular... i got into metal by listening to metallica. if kids today get into it by listening to bands like behemoth and nile, well i think that's fucking great. i don't even like them enough to defend why i enjoy them, though live they are usually the most intense band at the show. that's not saying much because they usually play with job for a cowboy or whatever. |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 8:49am - ouchdrummer ""] I'm pretty sure MOST people would view accessible as somewhat repetive music, with emotions that are easy to resonate with for the listener. (when your average listener is a young male, those emotions are mostly anger-based) Also to be accessible, you have to play something the"Everyman" can understand. No crazy arrangements, or chaotic rhythms. |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 8:50am - ouchdrummer ""] arktonaut said:nah, the second wave of black metal started for no reason in particular... i got into metal by listening to metallica. if kids today get into it by listening to bands like behemoth and nile, well i think that's fucking great. i don't even like them enough to defend why i enjoy them, though live they are usually the most intense band at the show. that's not saying much because they usually play with job for a cowboy or whatever. I'm defending accessible music. |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 8:53am - arilliusbm ""] I hate people that listen to metal to be "different." Individualism is not acheived through forced means; people listen to what they want. |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 8:54am - ouchdrummer ""] Well, i know plenty of people that DON'T listen to music because to many people like it.... it's the same thing.. isn't it? |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 8:56am - arilliusbm ""] I was thinking you meant accessible in the sense of how easy it is to be exposed to the music itself, not what the music gives off to the listener. Sure, most popular bands are dumbed down for your average Joe schmoe yea dude guy. |
| _______________________________ [Jan 12,2010 9:02am - timma ""] arilliusbm said:I hate people that listen to metal to be "different." Individualism is not acheived through forced means; people listen to what they want. I could not agree with you more, sir. On a more serious note, someone needs to write a shredding metal solo with distorted Xylophones. Just a thought. |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 9:04am - arilliusbm ""] ouchdrummer said:Well, i know plenty of people that DON'T listen to music because to many people like it.... it's the same thing.. isn't it? yes, anyone that listens or chooses not to listen to music for any other reason than liking or respecting the music itself (for personal image or forced individualism, ie hipster) is false. I don't understand how people can't like music. Who are these people you know? Slap them around, music is what makes the world go around. |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 10:03am - ouchdrummer ""] arilliusbm said: I don't understand how people can't like music. Who are these people you know? Slap them around, music is what makes the world go around. You DEFINITELY know a bunch of people that wouldn't listen to a band because they're popular. |
| ____________________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 10:08am - MikeofdecrepitudE ""] ouchdrummer said: arilliusbm said: I don't understand how people can't like music. Who are these people you know? Slap them around, music is what makes the world go around. You DEFINITELY know a bunch of people that wouldn't listen to a band because they're popular. Judging a band based off of their fanbase and not their musical compositions = LOL |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 10:20am - arilliusbm ""] Well in that case, yea. A lot of the kvlt black metal people are like that. The best thing is to keep an open mind about music, especially if you're a musician. Metal, on the other hand, I view completely differently. I've already divulged my concern over th direction folk metal is going in. |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 10:24am - arilliusbm ""] arktonaut said:nah, the second wave of black metal started for no reason in particular... wait, what? lol? |
| ____________________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 10:26am - MikeofdecrepitudE ""] First, define this "second wave". |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 10:28am - ouchdrummer ""] first, define particular. |
| ____________________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 10:30am - MikeofdecrepitudE ""] First, define "is", because Clinton never did. |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 10:30am - ouchdrummer ""] define first. |
| ____________________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 10:31am - MikeofdecrepitudE ""] Define define |
| _______________________________ [Jan 12,2010 10:35am - Yeti ""] arktonaut said:death metal has always been accessible. by definition, yes, it is, you can go to the store to get it. but by accessibility i mean appealing to the masses. death metal in the 90's was far from accessible, those who were into it weren't into it the way they are now. it took effort to seek out the demo tapes and shows, it was rewarding to be a part of that style. not just anyone played death metal. now it seems that any br00tal kid can download "Stripped, Raped and Strangled", grow his hair and all of a sudden he is into death metal. i see where you're coming from, i'm just stuck in an archaic era that is sorely missed. it seemed that back in the day people were almost born to be into metal, it was either discovered by chance, or divine intervention. now it takes zero effort to get involved, and the old ways have been suffocated to the point of extinction. but again, dementia set in in my old age and causes me to rant incoherently. |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 10:37am - arilliusbm ""] Agreed. I sense a disturbance in the force. |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 10:41am - ouchdrummer ""] Yeti said: arktonaut said:death metal has always been accessible. by definition, yes, it is, you can go to the store to get it. but by accessibility i mean appealing to the masses. death metal in the 90's was far from accessible, those who were into it weren't into it the way they are now. it took effort to seek out the demo tapes and shows, it was rewarding to be a part of that style. not just anyone played death metal. now it seems that any br00tal kid can download "Stripped, Raped and Strangled", grow his hair and all of a sudden he is into death metal. i see where you're coming from, i'm just stuck in an archaic era that is sorely missed. it seemed that back in the day people were almost born to be into metal, it was either discovered by chance, or divine intervention. now it takes zero effort to get involved, and the old ways have been suffocated to the point of extinction. but again, dementia set in in my old age and causes me to rant incoherently. Sounds to me like you're talking about how popular metal has gotten. |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 10:44am - arilliusbm ""] Extreme Metal, although still "underground," is much easier to access these days, especially with the Internet. A good analogy that I'm sure you would remember, is how popular opeth has become. I remember back 10 years ago when nobody really got into their live music that much and people would be talking during their set. Now, you're lucky to even catch a whiff of Mikaels ass. Granted opeth got a lot more popular, but metal as a whole is the same. Palladium shows, even 5 years ago were way better. There's a growing split between popular extreme metal, and underground extreme metal. They aren't the same anymore. |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 10:46am - ouchdrummer ""] Like i said, i meant accessible in a totally different sense. So did john i think. Not the literal sense. |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 10:46am - arilliusbm ""] It's amazing how hip black metal had become within the past couple of years. |
| __________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 10:47am - martins ""] Almost as hip as chiptunes. Metal is false anyway. |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 10:48am - arilliusbm ""] Agreed. It's amazing how hip chiptunes has become. Omgz like I can use reason and make nintendo music now!! |
| _________________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 10:49am - DestroyYouAlot ""] Lol @ u guys |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 10:50am - arktouros ""] arilliusbm said: arktonaut said:nah, the second wave of black metal started for no reason in particular... wait, what? lol? the commercialization and accessibility of death metal in the early 90's prompted bands like darkthrone to forge a new "anti death metal" sound. right? that's what i mean when i say it has always been accessible. you are right about mainstream metal and underground metal, there is a big difference these days. "this band is loud and fast and has double bass and stuff!!! you like them right???" |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 10:51am - arktouros ""] DestroyYouAlot said:Lol @ u guys you're totally right dude. this discussion is pointless even for the likes of RTTP. |
| __________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 10:52am - martins ""] The only black metal band that stuck to its roots: [img] |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 10:55am - arilliusbm ""] Lol it is pointless. We are all misunderstaning accessibility within metal. |
| _______________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 10:56am - goatcatalyst ""] Crab rangoon > black metal. I stopped caring a while ago. There has always been some basement dwelling fatty or 30-nothing manchild with more patches than brain cells that nothing will ever be "bestialwarhemicultfago" enough for. Now you have high-minded post-ironic art school fags who nothing will ever be "evolved" enough for. Worship Satan and eat delicious Asian cuisine or fuck off. |
| __________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 10:57am - martins ""] Don't talk about Aril that way. |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 11:01am - arilliusbm ""] Agreed to an extent with ryan. I hate most black metal fans. |
| _________________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 11:05am - DestroyYouAlot ""] Rangoon or a false is u |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 11:10am - arilliusbm ""] Rangoons are false. Egg rolls are better. |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 11:11am - ouchdrummer ""] only terriaki is real. |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 11:15am - arilliusbm ""] fuck, now I'm hungry. |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 11:19am - ouchdrummer ""] me too. |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 11:25am - arilliusbm ""] jumbos? 5 dollar 4 course delicious Chinese food? |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 11:28am - ouchdrummer ""] too far, i'm sleepy. |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 11:31am - arilliusbm ""] I hear you.. Almost passed out on the shitter here. I stayed up all night waiting for rev to play order from chaos on his radio show but he failed hard. |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 11:33am - ouchdrummer ""] that sucks. what a jerk! |
| _______________________________ [Jan 12,2010 12:45pm - Yeti ""] arktouros said: DestroyYouAlot said:Lol @ u guys you're totally right dude. this discussion is pointless even for the likes of RTTP. that's why i keep stating that i'm an old fart who is stuck in the 90's. |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 12:45pm - arktouros ""] and who likes the new nile album (which is excellent) you can't hide, tall man. |
| _______________________________ [Jan 12,2010 12:52pm - Yeti ""] hahahahaha touché. i do like a lot of 2000's stuff. i'm totally a gay Drudkh fanboy. |
| _______________________________ [Jan 12,2010 12:52pm - Yeti ""] speaking of Nile, i cannot fucking wait for Saturday. if they do "4th Arra of Dagon" i think the Palladium is going to crumble to dust. |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 12:55pm - arktouros ""] it will crumble if we do some heavy pregaming while Forgotten Legends is playing |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 1:06pm - arilliusbm ""] god dammit. That's this week? |
| ______________________________ [Jan 12,2010 1:06pm - Yeti ""] i plan to do some heavy pregaming, though i hadn't thought about Forgotten Legends. good idea sir. |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 1:10pm - goatcatalyst ""] We should totally have an ignorant pregame session, Yeti + Ark! Imm bring some occult reefer. |
| ______________________________ [Jan 12,2010 1:13pm - Yeti ""] my entire day is based around pregaming. |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 1:20pm - arilliusbm ""] Bastards. I'll be away. Oh well, i've seen Nile a bunch of times. Have fun, chaps. |
| ________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 1:26pm - xmikex ""] [img] |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 1:27pm - goatcatalyst ""] Bummer, Jim. I had some sigils I wanted to show you. |
| ______________________________ [Jan 12,2010 1:27pm - Yeti ""] [img] |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 1:39pm - arilliusbm ""] Maybe I'll make the effort to try to attend so I can supply rangoons. |
| ________________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 1:47pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] When and what now? LOL |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 1:54pm - goatcatalyst ""] I'd say it's a safe bet Immolation won't be going on before Abigail Williams and whoever that other band is (I'll assume they're shit). So I think we'll be safe in our pregamings this time, Tony. If I am wrong and Immolation goes on early and I miss them, I solemnly vow to bar the doors of the Palladium and place fire therein. |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 1:55pm - arilliusbm ""] Nile. This sat. Oh yea steve, I watched the herugrim video from that dreadful cherry st show when my amp died. First time I watched it since. It's full of lulz. You make an orge face at one point. |
| ___________________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 2:04pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] arilliusbm said:god dammit. That's this week? ya i forgot about this too... all other plans are now immediately cancelled. |
| ___________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 2:18pm - Slag nli ""] i'd say pregame at Darkwor industries headquarters. |
| ___________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 2:23pm - arktouros ""] i say yeti's place, he's right near the show. we need to get everybody out for this. and immolation, krisiun, then nile. there are no other bands playing...you hear me? NO OTHERS. |
| ___________________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 3:12pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] you're gonna need a bigger boat |
| ______________________________ [Jan 12,2010 3:14pm - Yeti ""] haha seriously. you guys are all welcome at my house, i just have a very small apartment. |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 3:38pm - goatcatalyst ""] It's cool. I'll be levitatingly stoned. On cryptic sigilweed. |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 3:41pm - ouchdrummer ""] goatcatalyst said:It's cool. I'll be levitatingly stoned. On cryptic sigilweed. I'll take the commuter out, jon can pick me up from it... i'll bring blueberry kush. (That's KULT NECRO blueberry kush) I can't miss out of satanic weed smoking. |
| ___________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 3:44pm - arktouros ""] Yep you can stay and take the train back in the morn or I'll drive you, don't matter |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 3:48pm - goatcatalyst ""] At first glance, I thought that said "KULT NEGRO" blueberry kush and I was all "LOL The Blacks do love the kush" Cool that you'll make it out, Jim. I've been wanting to goodtime it with you for a while now. |
| ___________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 3:56pm - arktouros ""] Not sure what I'm thinking. let's meet at the dw bandroom, 200 yds away... I'm retarded. That boat is big enough |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 4:06pm - arilliusbm ""] Oh snap. Hopefully I can attend. I'll give yeti or jim a call if I can. |
| _________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 4:12pm - oscarct ""] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRw0qL_cCM0 |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 4:30pm - ouchdrummer ""] goatcatalyst said:At first glance, I thought that said "KULT NEGRO" blueberry kush and I was all "LOL The Blacks do love the kush" Cool that you'll make it out, Jim. I've been wanting to goodtime it with you for a while now. yup, got to blaze with ya for all of 5 minutes in Maryland, but that's it. Saturday should rule... oh, and NILE is very accessible. |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 12,2010 4:33pm - arilliusbm ""] lol. is that bb accessible? Wink wink |
| _______________________________ [Jan 14,2010 12:57pm - Yeti ""] arktouros said:Not sure what I'm thinking. let's meet at the dw bandroom, 200 yds away... I'm retarded. That boat is big enough oh yeah, that would be a much better place to meet up. |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 14,2010 12:59pm - arilliusbm ""] Have fun. My car officially shat the bed last night and will be in the shop sat. |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 14,2010 1:02pm - goatcatalyst ""] Muslim conspiracy |
| _________________________________________ [Jan 14,2010 1:13pm - yeastinfection ""] bennyhillifier |