recording bass and guitars this weekend....[views:17123][posts:37]_____________________________________ [Feb 1,2010 5:07pm - JDDomination ""] Any last minute advice for me besides don't suck and moar brutalz? |
| _________________________________________ [Feb 1,2010 5:35pm - madoakdevin nli ""] what's your rig? |
| ________________________________________ [Feb 1,2010 5:36pm - bloblovesmusic ""] more synths and cheesy high vocals |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 1,2010 6:29pm - JDDomination ""] using various tube heads, fender prosonic, diezel einstein, peavey valveking, 5150, mesa trip rec, ampeg vh140c. I'm using several guitars for tracking rhythm, leads, solos, and clean parts. LTD w/EMGs, Schecter w/EMGs, Agile w/EMGs, Fender Japanese strat style HSS, Fender Showmaster HH, Epiphone Dot Studio Semihollow, Samick Strat Style. The recording is gonna involve experimenting with different combinations til I find what I like and go from there. |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 2,2010 12:43pm - JDDomination ""] bump |
| ______________________________ [Feb 2,2010 12:51pm - blue ""] Who are you recording with? Sounds like you got a great selection to choose from. That fender prosonic and ampeg vh are deeeelicious. |
| ____________________________________________ [Feb 2,2010 1:07pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""] Just trust what The Blackness says and your shit will glisten. |
| ______________________________________________ [Feb 2,2010 1:09pm - IllinoisEnemaBradness ""] more Weymouth less Hingham |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 2,2010 1:10pm - JDDomination ""] Eliot's doing the engineering at the studio in Rockland. The Fender belongs to him or the studio. The ampeg is my normal live rig, solid state. It's fuckin ballsy too. Any tips on recording with him? as far as preproduction, him and I are pretty much on the same page and it's due to turn out really great; crisp and crushing. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 2,2010 1:11pm - JDDomination ""] IllinoisEnemaBradness said:more Weymouth less Hingham Fuck Hingham in everyway possible. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 2,2010 1:12pm - goatcatalyst ""] Sweet. Smoke lots of drugs and listen to lots of Trower, use a Tube Screamer and have fun, dooder. |
| _____________________________ [Feb 2,2010 1:27pm - blue ""] I knew it was eliot's studio when you started listing amps. That prosonic used to be mine. |
| _________________________________ [Feb 2,2010 1:32pm - sinistas ""] Keep the gain manageable, and multi-track your parts. Layering will add some girth while you still maintain clarity. |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 2,2010 1:33pm - Slag Studios ""] JDDomination said:Any last minute advice for me besides don't suck and moar brutalz? When recording guitar, think of the layers as textures. You cannot pile on 5 layers of thick sloppy sludgy guitar together without it sounding muddy. Try to take different mic placements, eq settings, some thinner sounding tracks that accentuate different octaves or strings. Using different microphones also help as different mics are hyped or bumped at different places along the frequency spectrum. Using the same SM57 on every track will cause (as an example) a pile of 4khz as the mic has a presence boost built into the mic response. Think of textures and layers. |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 2,2010 1:34pm - Slag Studios ""] When recording bass, I find using a mixture of DI and mic'ed yields me good results. When you get to the mixing stage, you can eq each to taste. |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 2,2010 1:36pm - Slag Studios ""] sinistas said:Keep the gain manageable, and multi-track your parts. Layering will add some girth while you still maintain clarity. As this man says, when layering guitar, less gain is better. 3 Hi gain tracks layered = mud 3 Low to mid gain tracks layered = success. As always, trust your ears. Only you know what you want it to sound like. |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 2,2010 1:37pm - Sacreligion ""] Don't kill yourself trying to get everything "perfect." If there's obvious suck then redo the take, but don't automatically dismiss a good take just because you thought you could've hit that one squeal a little better or something along those lines. Overdoing the perfectionist route can take the live feel away from the recording and end up with sterile results. |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 2,2010 1:38pm - Sacreligion ""] Slag%20Studios said: sinistas said:Keep the gain manageable, and multi-track your parts. Layering will add some girth while you still maintain clarity. As this man says, when layering guitar, less gain is better. 3 Hi gain tracks layered = mud 3 Low to mid gain tracks layered = success. As always, trust your ears. Only you know what you want it to sound like. This. I won't record ever again with my pre-gain over 3-3.5, depending on what volume I'm at. |
| __________________________________ [Feb 2,2010 1:41pm - narkybark ""] Also: provide lots of grape drank. |
| ______________________________________________ [Feb 2,2010 1:44pm - IllinoisEnemaBradness ""] when in doubt, take it out |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 2,2010 2:05pm - JDDomination ""] Wow great advice, seems pretty consistent with what Eliot and I have been planning on in preproduction. Less gain with multiple tracking, multiple miking, various frequencies, etc. I think I'm doing each side with several mics and two rigs into an AB Box, probably ending up with 4 guitars tracks. It's gonna sound awesome, Keep it coming |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 2,2010 2:08pm - Sacreligion ""] Tune like it's a mantra. Even after a flubbed 5 second take. |
| _____________________________ [Feb 2,2010 2:08pm - blue ""] Eliot knows exactly what he's doing, despite all of the great advice offered here. Everything will come out great I'm sure. |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 2,2010 2:40pm - Slag Studios ""] I find a killer mic combination on guitar cabs to be a dynamic (like SM57) close to the grill and a ribbon mic at the same distance. I like a crisp condenser about 6 feet away or whatever sounds good to capture the sound developing. Also, mess with polarity settings on mic preamp or in the software on different channels... the bigger sound of the two is always the better one. |
| __________________________________ [Feb 2,2010 2:43pm - narkybark ""] if that fails, eject the warp core |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 2,2010 2:46pm - Slag Studios ""] MR WORF, PREPARE TO SEPERATE THE SAUCER SECTION. ALL HANDS TO THE BATTLE BRIDGE. |
| ________________________________ [Feb 2,2010 2:48pm - martins ""] Ya, Eliot is the man |
| _______________________________________ [Feb 2,2010 3:50pm - autisticretard ""] dont forget to push down play and record on the boombox at the same time |
| __________________________________ [Feb 2,2010 3:59pm - arktouros ""] for tuners, pickups, etc make sure you have enough jeffrey's tubes and dilithium cryst....er, batteries. |
| ________________________________________ [Feb 2,2010 4:49pm - fleshfries nli ""] Am I getting any credit in the album booklet for helping to write half of this album? I could really use that for portfolio purposes. You guys are gonna be blown away by this album, it's HUGE. |
| _________________________________ [Feb 2,2010 4:52pm - devilman ""] For bass if it's active leave it off to the di then eq your head to get the sound you like. Take the time and listen to the different speakers . There is always one that sounds better than the rest. I like a mix of di and mic'd . Guitars sound's like you've go the idea already double track, multi mics, not too much gain. And last take brakes get out of the studio smoke or drink and let your ears relax or you'll stop hearing what's realy going on |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 2,2010 5:35pm - JDDomination ""] fleshfries%20nli said:Am I getting any credit in the album booklet for helping to write half of this album? I could really use that for portfolio purposes. You guys are gonna be blown away by this album, it's HUGE. yeah we'll get you on there somewhere, certainly wasn't half though |
| ________________________________________ [Feb 2,2010 6:25pm - fleshfries nli ""] Yea you're right, it was probably a little more than half |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 2,2010 9:05pm - fleshfries ""] I was there to help write 6 out of the 9 songs that are on this album, I'd certainly say that's more than half, sorry, it's my ego talking. |
| ______________________________ [Feb 2,2010 9:31pm - Pires ""] Is this going to turn into another "madmike vs. hyeo" thing? |
| _______________________________________________ [Feb 2,2010 10:15pm - IllinoisEnemaBradness ""] fleshfries said:I was there to help write 6 out of the 9 songs that are on this album, I'd certainly say that's more than half, sorry, it's my ego talking. "i was there" c'mon man, I was there when my former bandmates would have 95% of the song done and I'd help structure a little. You have to actually write the riff to get credit, structuring don't count. If that's what JD means, if not:moe: |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 2,2010 11:55pm - JDDomination ""] just discussing recording at this point, thanks guys |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 3,2010 12:34am - i_am_not_me ""] Oh snap. |