Attn: Hoser and other hill people - what do I need to know to start bowhunting?[views:5069][posts:41]________________________________________ [Mar 10,2010 2:19pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] Thinking about giving this a shot this year. Fully aware that I won't be hitting a damn thing first year or so out, but ya gotta start somewhere. ('Sides, this seems like one of those skills where, if you ever actually need it, it's too late.) I have an old-school wood/composite recurve (a nice one), haven't gotten the weight checked but it's about as heavy as I'm comfortable with (it was my dad's back in the day, and he was at least as strong as I am now). Bow's in good shape, need non-shitty arrows and heads. Haven't practiced in years, but when I'm in shape I can hit a target. Thinking to start with turkeys since they're retarded and I might actually get one, LOL. Where do I start? What's involved in getting the license? (Never legally "hunted" before, just shot critters eating the parents' garden. But I'm not squeamish about it.) Do I have provisionary permission to enter NH? LOL |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 10,2010 2:22pm - arilliusbm ""] Steve, come to middleboro. We have the biggest bow shop in MA and they train you on the spot with a shooting range in the back. |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 10,2010 2:24pm - arilliusbm ""] DestroyYouAlot said:Thinking about giving this a shot this year. no pun intended? |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 10,2010 2:26pm - atthehaunted ""] Actually Trader Jan's in Fall River is the biggest. |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 10,2010 2:28pm - arilliusbm ""] You mean they lie on their commercials? Damn them. Anyway, I wouldn't be surprised. The place is pretty cheap and good at what they do. http://www.reedysarchery.com/ |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 10,2010 3:08pm - largefreakatzero ""] I think that recurve bow of yours may be illegal to hunt with. I may be wrong, but most states require you to use a compound bow. I do know that you will need to take a hunters safety course and then an additional archery course for bowhunting. I don't bowhunt because I don't have time for any more seasons and I love to hunt birds with my dogs, but best of luck to you. It warms my heart when hunting attracts new blood to our beloved sport. I wouldn't bother too much with NH if you want to hunt deer -- there's actually not as many as you think up here. Concentrate on being a suburban commando - it may not be as much of a "pristine" hunting experience, but you will have more success. You would be suprised at how many more deer there are in suburban areas - those fuckers camp out in small patches of woods and come out to eat rich peoples' flower beds at dawn/dusk. With a bow you can be stealthy, and keep the rich faggot complaints limited. Good luck! |
| ____________________________________________________ [Mar 10,2010 3:17pm - AndrewBastard, $Version=1 ""] I went illegally on Prudence island years ago... that is all i can contribute. Oh and there is an archery shop near my place in Dedham. |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 10,2010 3:27pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] ITT: DYA prepares for the zombie apocalypse |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 10,2010 3:34pm - ouchdrummer ""] DestroyYouAlot said:ITT: DYA prepares for the zombie apocalypse I want in. I really don't want a gun, but the idea that i won't be able to defend myself when the zombie apocalypse comes scares me.. I keep contemplating a gun. |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 10,2010 3:37pm - arilliusbm ""] I would advise getting something. Impending chaos. American Revolution II, WWIII, Zombie apocalypse, alien invasion. All might happen. All I've got are Celtic daggers and some fart spray. |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 10,2010 3:38pm - ouchdrummer ""] fart spray? Like it smells like farts, or it stops the smell of farts? Well, neither seem useful anyways. |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 10,2010 3:41pm - arilliusbm ""] It's called liquid ass. Its the most powerful thing on the market. It literally smells like ass crack, dead animals, and shit. It's so strong, people nearly puke. Check out the videos on YouTube. |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 10,2010 3:51pm - largefreakatzero ""] Pick up a 12 gauge pump. Inexpensive, versatile and packs a whallop. Also, the sound when chambering a shell still makes me long and I've owned pump guns for 20 years. |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 10,2010 3:53pm - arilliusbm ""] Saw off. |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 10,2010 3:54pm - atthehaunted ""] Your bow needs to be at least 40 lb pull in order to go hunting. There's a website called archerytalk.com there's a shit load of people on it who can help you. |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 10,2010 4:11pm - largefreakatzero ""] ^yeah, hence my comment on the compound bow. That recurve you have might not make the 40lb requirement. |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 10,2010 4:52pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] Just ran across that little statistic - not sure off the top of my head but I seem to recall the draw being somewhat more than that. (Researched it a little when the bow officially became mine.) Have to check it again when I get home. It's pretty burly; thing's kind of a nail driver at full extension. |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 10,2010 4:54pm - arilliusbm ""] No offense steve, but youre more of a human warrior than ranger. |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 10,2010 5:16pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] Specialization: adds point blank range category (5-30 feet); +2 damage at point blank range |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 10,2010 5:16pm - TheRidersofDoom ""] Nashua is crawling with deer, check out some of the fields on the border with dunstable or near the airport. |
| _______________________________ [Mar 10,2010 8:33pm - Hoser ""] Ok...I don't mind helping anyone who wants to start hunting, even if you're a Masswipe. I'll do this in steps to make it easy. 1.) You MUST attend an NRA certified hunter safety program before you can even buy a license in ANY state. They are typically free here where I live, but in Mass. expect fees because Mass. sucks. 2.) You MAY have to attend a seperate course for bow hunting, as is law for newly licensed bow hunters in the state of Maine. 3.) I would forget about your Dad's old bow altogether. An effective bow hunter carries a bow that is built to his/her exact draw length, and pound preference. Using someone elses bow is like wearing someone else's bluejeans...they may "kind of" fit, but they will never be as comfortable and downright reliable as the set that you bought off of the shelf JUST FOR YOU. It's important, believe me. You have the choice to either kill the animal, or take a slough shot and risk wounding it, possibly for the rest of it's now shortened life (i.e Coyotes, Bear.) Also, if the limbs on the bow are old, you risk breaking them, which may not only be a bummer for your Dad, but it may also blow up in your face causing injury, or if it gets your eyes...maybe blindness. When a limb snaps under that kind of pressure, it ain't pretty. It's like it fucking exploded in your hands. 4.) Recurves and longbows are NOT illegal anywhere in New England. They are completely legal, but I recommend a good compound bought from a reputable shop that will measure your exact draw length (from your non-dominant hand to your dominant ear.) Once this is measured, the poundage of the bow (typically 50-70lbs) can be adjusted to your comfort level and the level of fatigue felt at full draw for over 10 seconds. Most compounds made now are between 70% and 80% let-off. Let-off is the measurement (in percentage) of the total draw weight of the bow that is "forgiven" once the bow attains full draw length (i.e if the bow is set at 70lbs. draw weight, and the bow has 80% let-off, at full draw you will only be holding (and feeling) 14lbs. of weight. This is made possible by the use of what are known as "cams" and "wheels." Many bows are either a "cam" or a "cam and a half.) In theory, the latter will have greater let-off, and higher FPS (arrow speed.) I can get as in depth as you want me to. Arrow choice, and weight of broadhead (in Grains) will also have a huge effect on accuracy and speed (for example...I personally shoot 100 grain G5 Montecs (broadheads) to achieve my greatest accuracy. With my current set-up (2006 Hoyt Trykon 29.5" draw 70lbs. draw weight (custom sights, quiver, arrow rest, and stabilizer), Easton Carbon Fiber arrows, and 100 grain G5 Montecs. I can put and arrow on a quarter at 20-40 yards. 40 yards is the max distance that I will personally take an animal at, that will almost guarantee me a clean kill. Most guys will only go out to 25-30 yards, some guys are superstars at 50 yards. 40 is what I'm comfortable with. I paid about $1400 for my current set-up, as it's all custom. If you have the long-term desire, the practice (does'nt take very long with the proper amount of dedication) and the money, you will find a lifetime skill and a desire to hunt that you may have never had before. Good luck, man! |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 10,2010 8:42pm - goatcatalyst ""] I'd start with a large bottle of Woodford Reserve and a healthy suspicion of colored folks. |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 10,2010 8:44pm - goatcatalyst ""] And by coloreds, I mean liberals. Synonymous, verily. |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 10,2010 8:58pm - arilliusbm ""] Hoser, let's drink sometime. |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 10,2010 9:30pm - goatcatalyst ""] I've been wanting to drink with Hoser for a coon's age now. Agalloch and bourbon. Repeat. |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 10,2010 9:37pm - ArilliusBM ""] The last time I saw Hoser, he took his nuts out. I can't remember what show it was (Morbid Angel?). I think Rev took a pic of his nuts. |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 10,2010 9:56pm - ancient master ""] just dont go hunting with dick cheney |
| _________________________________ [Mar 10,2010 9:58pm - scmfck ""] fake a permant arm injury, get dr.'s note, get crossbow legally in ma..... or you're a pussy |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 10,2010 10:00pm - the_reverend ""] in before DYYA becomes D-eYeless-A |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 10,2010 10:06pm - ArilliusBM ""] POST PIC OF HOSER'S NUTS OR GTFO |
| __________________________________ [Mar 10,2010 10:06pm - scmfck ""] but for reals, take the hunter safety course hoser was talking about. Won't hurt and they'll tell you how and where to get all your permits for each season. As well as getting hook ups for people who can help you out(butchers etc.) Plus i believe they're usually at sportsmans clubs that have cheap drafts so you can drink with a bunch of old times wicked cheap! |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 10,2010 11:18pm - the_reverend ""] I CAN'T FUCKING BELIEVE THAT THE NRA IS TAKING AWAY MY FREEDOMS TO BEAR ARMS WHAT THE FUCK. |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 11,2010 2:22am - DestroyYouAlot ""] Right to owlbear arms |
| ______________________________ [Mar 11,2010 9:00am - ark ""] I'm willing to bet Big Boss was stronger than you dude. |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 11,2010 9:03am - arilliusbm ""] Big Boss is a pedophile. |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 11,2010 9:37am - DestroyYouAlot ""] ark said:I'm willing to bet Big Boss was stronger than you dude. Hahaha, exactly. I'll just use it to kill reticulated pythons and shit. (Man, when the cancer finally gets him I'm gonna have the hardest time not yelling "SNNNAAAAAAAAKKKEE!!!") |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 11,2010 9:39am - arilliusbm ""] Wait? Big Boss as in Roots vocalist? |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 11,2010 9:40am - arilliusbm ""] oh, metal gear. Root > metal gear |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 11,2010 9:52am - DestroyYouAlot ""] Got home and had a look at the bow. It's a Herter's Perfection Mag from 1977, 60" length, rated 42 lbs @ 28 inches. So, in theory, at least legal to hunt with (assuming that spec still holds true). There does seem to be a small but dedicated segment of the sport dedicated to hunting with (old) recurves, from the research I did earlier. (I'm sorta trying to prove to myself I can actually get something with an old-school bow - silly maybe, but there it is.) Well, if I don't blow it out in target practice, I guess it'll be alright. |
| _______________________________ [Mar 11,2010 12:51pm - Yeti ""] Steve of Loxley |
| ________________________________ [Mar 12,2010 11:57pm - Hoser ""] Aril, yes...drinking is a must. And yes, I hung my balls out at the Palladium for one of Rev's random shots. I forget who was playing... |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 13,2010 9:18am - DestroyYouAlot ""] Got a couple ideas for spots and a couple people stoked on the idea of getting out there, last night. Gotta start target shooting again. |