National ID is back and Obama supports it
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[Mar 19,2010 8:38am - TheRidersofDoom ""]
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...8/AR2010031803762.html?hpid=topnews
good bye privacy!
by the way if this passes I will be in jail or flee the country, I absolutely refuse to get a card that carries my entire life on it and keeps track of where I am.
[Mar 19,2010 8:51am - MikeofdecrepitudE ""]
Where is security governed through scrutiny?
[Mar 19,2010 8:52am - Slag NLI ""]
Just by posting this one morsel on the internet, your IP address could be tracked back to your house or where ever you are. The government could hunt you down at any moment. You mentioned something about privacy?
[Mar 19,2010 8:56am - arktouros ""]
a) it doesn't keep track of where you are
2) you don't have to get one, illegal immigrants can get one
"As in earlier efforts, the senators would grant legal status to illegal immigrants who have not committed felonies, and who admit they broke the law by entering the country illegally, then agree to perform community service, pay fines and back taxes, pass background checks and learn English."
they're already here and not going away so why not squeeze money out of them and make them lern english good.
and of course rule # 3) never submit to a biometric scan. problem solved
[Mar 19,2010 8:58am - TheRidersofDoom ""]
Slag%20NLI said:Just by posting this one morsel on the internet, your IP address could be tracked back to your house or where ever you are. The government could hunt you down at any moment. You mentioned something about privacy?
yeah but if I left the house at least they couldn't find me hahah. I understand the internet as a means of tracking people but it can't tell the gov where I am.
these cards will be needed for almost everything, using transit, entering federal buildings, leaving the country, and with today's technology I wouldn't put it past them that they would put tracking devices in them...they can make those microscopic now.
[Mar 19,2010 8:59am - TheRidersofDoom ""]
arktouros said:a) it doesn't keep track of where you are
2) you don't have to get one, illegal immigrants can get one
"As in earlier efforts, the senators would grant legal status to illegal immigrants who have not committed felonies, and who admit they broke the law by entering the country illegally, then agree to perform community service, pay fines and back taxes, pass background checks and learn English."
they're already here and not going away so why not squeeze money out of them and make them lern english good.
and of course rule # 3) never submit to a biometric scan. problem solved
every american will need one, says it everywhere I read. You will need it to verify employment...but soon they think it will be needed to board a train, bus, plane...enter a library ahaha
[Mar 19,2010 9:02am - arilliusbm ""]
arktouros said:a) it doesn't keep track of where you are
2) you don't have to get one, illegal immigrants can get one
rule # 3) never submit to a biometric scan. problem solved
where's rule #1? Or better yet, b and c?
[Mar 19,2010 9:02am - arktouros ""]
ah. Real ID II. if it passes i'll do whatever it takes to not get one.
[Mar 19,2010 9:04am - TheRidersofDoom ""]
Yeah this was passed over sooooo lightly by NPR, I swear that healthcare is being used to cover it up so we are all angry over healthcare then bam both parties pass this.
that's the scary thing, both parties looove the shit out of this idea and will think we will love them for working together on it.
[Mar 19,2010 9:07am - Slag NLI ""]
TheRidersofDoom said:
Slag%20NLI said:Just by posting this one morsel on the internet, your IP address could be tracked back to your house or where ever you are. The government could hunt you down at any moment. You mentioned something about privacy?
yeah but if I left the house at least they couldn't find me hahah. I understand the internet as a means of tracking people but it can't tell the gov where I am.
these cards will be needed for almost everything, using transit, entering federal buildings, leaving the country, and with today's technology I wouldn't put it past them that they would put tracking devices in them...they can make those microscopic now.
I see what you are saying. But do not forget to leave the cellphone at home. They'll get you with that too. And the credit cards.
Siberia sounds better daily.
[Mar 19,2010 9:09am - TheRidersofDoom ""]
I feel like my crazy thoughts of moving out into the woods of canada are becoming more and more logical and sane daily.
[Mar 19,2010 9:13am - MikeofdecrepitudE ""]
They'll still find you.
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[Mar 19,2010 9:17am - DestroyYouAlot ""]
TheRidersofDoom said:I feel like my crazy thoughts of moving out into the the asteroid belt and mining uranium are becoming more and more logical and sane daily.
fix'd, back'd
[Mar 19,2010 9:20am - TheRidersofDoom ""]
Uncle Owen keeps making me stay on for the water harvest hence I can't become a pilot and check out the asteroid belt.
I know that is nothing like what your reference was aiming for but now I want to watch a new hope.
[Mar 19,2010 9:20am - Slag NLI ""]
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[Mar 19,2010 9:28am - arktouros ""]
^wow...whoever made that is a fucking genius
[Mar 19,2010 9:29am - arktouros ""]
you don't get more jew than ferengi
[Mar 19,2010 9:42am - the_reverend ""]
burn your passports then faggos
[Mar 19,2010 10:27am - TheRidersofDoom ""]
the_reverend said:burn your passports then faggos
you don't use a passport to get a job/board the t/get on a train/get on a national flight
but yes, there are chips in passports so they can track you overseas and make sure you aint hanging with bin laden's crew.
on that note I don't have one yet, but willl need one once it comes time to visit iceland...what america will look like in five years, economically that is.
[Mar 19,2010 10:28am - Yeti ""]
MikeofdecrepitudE said:Where is security governed through scrutiny?
your privacy denied, organized and confined.
[Mar 19,2010 10:30am - arktouros ""]
hah, iceland has had a self-sufficient local economy for 1000+ years. no matter what their bank's balance sheets look like, you wouldn't know the difference.
[Mar 19,2010 10:33am - TheRidersofDoom ""]
arktouros said:hah, iceland has had a self-sufficient local economy for 1000+ years. no matter what their bank's balance sheets look like, you wouldn't know the difference.
them fuckers are screwed, I read in the economist that the citizens are being forced to bail out their banks and the tab is due, the article was called the united states of iceland because it's supposed to parallel what we will be dealing with in five years when supposedly we will have to start paying the bills
but yes, they have meat, wool, small farming, fishing and whaling, thermal energy
don't know why they just don't say fuck it and isolate themselves they don't need shit anymore.
[Mar 19,2010 10:36am - arktouros ""]
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[Mar 19,2010 10:46am - the_reverend ""]
ok, trod, then burn your license. try go out to get a drink without an ID card. Oh wait, you can't! right now we have 50 different national ids. some of them area really easy for people to fake too. hm.. time for this nilla to become mclovin.
[Mar 19,2010 10:49am - arktouros ""]
also hilarious: people who don't want to fill out the census. not like they don't already have your info.
[Mar 19,2010 10:51am - TheRidersofDoom ""]
yeah but at least a license doesn't give the person scanning it access to your records. Basically what they propose is adding on your criminal record, list of previous addresses, medical conditions, and other info like the shit the TSA has on a lot of people that they don't know about.
[Mar 19,2010 10:56am - Slag NLI ""]
Good news in all of this is, we all die soon.
[Mar 19,2010 12:46pm - douchebag_patrol ""]
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[Mar 19,2010 1:03pm - the_reverend ""]
TheRidersofDoom said:yeah but at least a license doesn't give the person scanning it access to your records. Basically what they propose is adding on your criminal record, list of previous addresses, medical conditions, and other info like the shit the TSA has on a lot of people that they don't know about. you are right. the cops take your license, walk back to their car, wipe their boogers on the card, and then come back and hand it to you. all they are checking for is if you have a muslim name or your license smells like cocaine.
[Mar 19,2010 1:06pm - Vagoo Vikernes ""]
I am amused that liberal America is not pleased with the mulatto they elected. Don't they know his policies will be half-George Bush, half-Kenya? In Kenya they also have ID cards. It is the bribe you pay to police officers so that they do not arrest you immediately.
[Mar 19,2010 1:07pm - TheRidersofDoom ""]
the_reverend said:
TheRidersofDoom said:yeah but at least a license doesn't give the person scanning it access to your records. Basically what they propose is adding on your criminal record, list of previous addresses, medical conditions, and other info like the shit the TSA has on a lot of people that they don't know about. you are right. the cops take your license, walk back to their car, wipe their boogers on the card, and then come back and hand it to you. all they are checking for is if you have a muslim name or your license smells like cocaine.
nigga I'm talking employers will have access to sensitive info, I know cops can look that shit up, well minus medical history