Cloning Neanderthals[views:4368][posts:31]____________________________________ [Apr 30,2010 10:06am - ARKTOUROS ""] http://www.archaeology.org/1003/etc/neanderthals.html If Neanderthals ever walk the earth again, the primordial ooze from which they will rise is an emulsion of oil, water, and DNA capture beads engineered in the laboratory of 454 Life Sciences in Branford, Connecticut. Over the past 4 years those beads have been gathering tiny fragments of DNA from samples of dissolved organic materials, including pieces of Neanderthal bone. Genetic sequences have given paleoanthropologists a new line of evidence for testing ideas about the biology of our closest extinct relative. The first studies of Neanderthal DNA focused on the genetic sequences of mitochondria, the microscopic organelles that convert food to energy within cells. In 2005, however, 454 began a collaborative project with the Max Planck Institute in Leipzig, Germany, to sequence the full genetic code of a Neanderthal woman who died in Croatia's Vindija cave 30,000 years ago. As the Neanderthal genome is painstakingly sequenced, the archaeologists and biologists who study it will be faced with an opportunity that seemed like science fiction just 10 years ago. They will be able to look at the genetic blueprint of humankind's nearest relative and understand its biology as intimately as our own. In addition to giving scientists the ability to answer questions about Neanderthals' relationship to our own species--did we interbreed, are we separate species, who was smarter--the Neanderthal genome may be useful in researching medical treatments. Newly developed techniques could make cloning Neanderthal cells or body parts a reality within a few years. The ability to use the genes of extinct hominins is going to force the field of paleoanthropology into some unfamiliar ethical territory. There are still technical obstacles, but soon it could be possible to use that long-extinct genome to safely create a healthy, living Neanderthal clone. Should it be done? |
| _____________________________________ [Apr 30,2010 10:06am - arilliusbm ""] Old news. |
| ____________________________________ [Apr 30,2010 10:10am - ARKTOUROS ""] Should it be done? |
| _____________________________________ [Apr 30,2010 10:12am - arilliusbm ""] But yes, why not? I wrote a short story in highschool about this. Except we used them to do labor; a sort of "slave," if you will. Of course, the teacher didn't like it one bit. Their cranial capacity is not as large as humans' capacity, however they are presumed to have been phsycially stronger, as shown in their skeletal structure. Of course it has been a pipe dream of mine to clone Neanderthals and create an army of them. With the neanderthal army we could easily take over the world, resulting in the collapse of the NWO and the plan for financial dictatorship. But alas, this is not reality, but only a pipe dream of mine. |
| ____________________________________ [Apr 30,2010 10:22am - ARKTOUROS ""] Since HSS killed them off the first time, I don't see how now would be any different. They would still be treated as a lesser human. Smaller cranial capacity isn't directly linked to intellect though even in large brain span differences of our own species. No way we're ready to live alongside a different species. They'd be slaves and experiments just as you said. |
| _____________________________________ [Apr 30,2010 10:23am - arilliusbm ""] Same thing with Mammoths. Japanese scientists want to eventually clone them. I don't see why not. Pygmy mammoths were living on a remote Siberian island in roughly 5000BC. That wasn't that long ago. If we were to clone a mammoth, there should be no problem, as we were responsible for a bottleneck in their population before the last ice age. We should also clone the DoDo bird. It was a huge bird, much larger than a chicken. It's meat was said to have tasted like chicken as well. We should clone the dodo bird and solve some hunger issues around the globe. |
| _____________________________________ [Apr 30,2010 10:27am - arilliusbm ""] ARKTOUROS said:Since HSS killed them off the first time, I don't see how now would be any different. They would still be treated as a lesser human. Smaller cranial capacity isn't directly linked to intellect though even in large brain span differences of our own species. No way we're ready to live alongside a different species. They'd be slaves and experiments just as you said. they've done studies saying they were intellectual and not that "dumb." one thing they're theorizing now is that their language must have been very primitive, as that part of their brain was not as developed. Also, their vocal chords weren't like ours, which leads some scientists to believe if they had a language, it would have been much different sounding than that of humans. |
| _____________________________________ [Apr 30,2010 10:29am - arilliusbm ""] but yes. you think we have racism today? wait till another actual species lives with us. it's so easy a caveman can do it = racist |
| __________________________________ [Apr 30,2010 10:34am - sxealex ""] [img] |
| ____________________________________ [Apr 30,2010 10:39am - ARKTOUROS ""] They would sound like Klingons. Totally possible they could have the same level of abstract thought with a simpler language. |
| _____________________________________ [Apr 30,2010 10:48am - arilliusbm ""] Of course. If no interbreeding occurred, and they were still around, I'd imagine that they'd have their own culture, society, art, etc. However, we wouldn't have allowed that anyway, due to actual conflicts between the two species. |
| _______________________________________ [Apr 30,2010 10:51am - the_reverend ""] i want them to do it since colbert said they were tasty. Neanderthal bacon? forgetaboutit. |
| ____________________________________ [Apr 30,2010 10:53am - ARKTOUROS ""] haha, no joke, i'm sure a Neanderthal ritual must have been pretty fucking glorious. |
| _____________________________________ [Apr 30,2010 11:01am - SHIMON1.0 ""] arilliusbm said:but yes. you think we have racism today? wait till another actual species lives with us. [img] |
| _____________________________________ [Apr 30,2010 11:01am - arilliusbm ""] I was acutally going to start a Neanderthal Death Metal band called Neanderkill. Anyone down? |
| _______________________________________ [Apr 30,2010 11:05am - the_reverend ""] arilliusbm said:Old news. [img] |
| _____________________________________ [Apr 30,2010 11:15am - arilliusbm ""] What about Sicily? |
| ____________________________________ [Apr 30,2010 11:17am - ARKTOUROS ""] lots o neandertal bones there |
| _______________________________________ [Apr 30,2010 11:18am - the_reverend ""] ARKTOUROS said:lots o neanderthal there |
| _____________________________________ [Apr 30,2010 11:19am - arilliusbm ""] star child > Neanderthal |
| ____________________________________________ [Apr 30,2010 11:51am - FuckIsMySignature ""] [img] |
| _______________________________________ [Apr 30,2010 11:58am - SkinSandwich ""] Why clone them? You can just go to any hardcore show and view them in the wild. |
| _______________________________________ [Apr 30,2010 12:26pm - the_reverend ""] wonder if a neanderthal vagina is better than a homo's vagina. |
| _____________________________________ [Apr 30,2010 12:28pm - arilliusbm ""] It'd be hairy, purple, and loose as fuck. |
| ______________________________ [Apr 30,2010 1:10pm - Yeti ""] arilliusbm said:Same thing with Mammoths. Japanese scientists want to eventually clone them. I don't see why not. Pygmy mammoths were living on a remote Siberian island in roughly 5000BC. That wasn't that long ago. If we were to clone a mammoth, there should be no problem, as we were responsible for a bottleneck in their population before the last ice age. We should also clone the DoDo bird. It was a huge bird, much larger than a chicken. It's meat was said to have tasted like chicken as well. We should clone the dodo bird and solve some hunger issues around the globe. i'll have a single pillow of shredded wheat, some steamed toast, and a Dodo egg. |
| ___________________________________ [Apr 30,2010 1:31pm - arktouros ""] Lol there it is |
| ____________________________________ [Apr 30,2010 1:55pm - arilliusbm ""] You think I'm joking with this dodo shit? They'd be up to you waist, and would contain 30 lbs of meat. Dodo or gtfo |
| _________________________________________ [Apr 30,2010 3:13pm - TheRidersofDoom ""] I bet if you bred Red-Heads enough you'd get something like a neanderthal in a hundred generations. Some Believe red-hair is a trait inherited from inter-breeding with neanderthals. It makes sense, mostly Northern and edge of the world-cultures had red hair, Celts, Norse, some native tribes in Russia They'd just look like white Negroes I bet but only oddly shaped. |
| _________________________________________ [Apr 30,2010 3:15pm - TheRidersofDoom ""] [img] |
| _________________________________________ [Apr 30,2010 6:44pm - DrewBlood@Work ""] i for one am proud of my neanderthal heritage. buying shirts with long enough sleeves is kind of a bitch though. |
| _______________________________________________ [Apr 30,2010 7:12pm - IllinoisEnemaBradness ""] "454 Life Sciences in Branford, Connecticut." so THATS what happened to 454 Big Block [img] |
| ________________________________________ [Apr 30,2010 7:12pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] the_reverend said:wonder if a neanderthal vagina is better than a homo's vagina. ITT: neanderthal chicks are DTF |