Solipsist[views:6173][posts:30]____________________________________________ [Apr 29,2004 12:49am - A Life Once Lost ""] [img] DOES NOT = [img][img] |
| _____________________________________ [Apr 29,2004 1:15am - RustedAngel ""] neither does a life once lost, anonymous fag. |
| ______________________________________ [Apr 29,2004 1:28am - the_reverend ""] or bhbs |
| ___________________________________ [Apr 29,2004 2:16am - Mike FOD ""] I'd say A life once lost pulls it off better than that band. But Textures defeats all other Meshuggah clones. At points this Solipsist band sounds off, but in a bad way. Might be cool if they just took an influence from Meshuggah, but this is just blatant worship. |
| _____________________________________ [Apr 29,2004 8:58am - RustedAngel ""] Mike FOD said:I'd say A life once lost pulls it off better than that band. But Textures defeats all other Meshuggah clones. At points this Solipsist band sounds off, but in a bad way. Might be cool if they just took an influence from Meshuggah, but this is just blatant worship. A life once lost is a poor mans / hardcore kids meshuggah, and half the riffs are exact meshuggah rip offs minus fredericks solo's. what's wrong with the 2 members of solipsist fucking around excersising their meshuggah influence I mean worship? kevin's been playing drums for like 2 or 3 years.. and rob has been playing guitar for like 5 or 6 now. I know for a fact rob can play other rediculous shit besides the meshuggah type. (see iranach). |
| _____________________________________ [Apr 29,2004 8:59am - RustedAngel ""] why are you so threatend by solipsist that you had to bother making a thread about it? |
| ______________________________________ [Apr 29,2004 9:39am - the_reverend ""] tom, you going to their direty basement show on may 14th? |
| ______________________________________ [Apr 29,2004 9:40am - the_reverend ""] it's also funny that someone with the nick alol is pointing the meshuggah copying finger at solipsist. |
| __________________________________ [Apr 29,2004 9:45am - Mike_FOD ""] RustedAngel said:why are you so threatend by solipsist that you had to bother making a thread about it? Funny you say ALOL is a poor mans Meshuggah and that Solipsist is just fucking around with their "influence". I'd say ALOL's new disc is beyond anything nu-core kids could comprehend. Both bands rip off Meshuggah: fact. ALOL even goes as far as stealing Thordendal's lead style, but they sound pretty tight to me. You can't bash ALOL and then tell me this Solipsist isn't guilty of the same thing. They're ALOL minus some of the leadwork and no vox. Both bands even use 6 strings, which might explain why they both have weak tones in trying to emulate Meshuggah's. |
| ___________________________________________________ [Apr 29,2004 9:51am - attendmyrequiem @ school ""] HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHA this is just funny. I think the point of this thread is leave this style to the people who do it best: Meshuggah. It's about time someone made fun of all their clones. Meshuggah > Textures > A Life Once Lost > Solipsist I guess you could threw Scarve in there somewhere as well. |
| ___________________________________________________ [Apr 29,2004 9:58am - attendmyrequiem @ school ""] Might I add that Solipsist wouldn't have been half as bad if they didn't turn New Millenium Cyanide Christ into a complete waste. They also lack the key parts to Meshuggah that require more than two people: the eerie element and the solos. Which means they are just a bunch of chugs that lead to nothing. and if they are just fucking around why go as far as, let's say naming your band. BHBS is less a Meshuggah rip off than a Candiria rip off with a difference in guitar tone. |
| _________________________________________ [Apr 29,2004 10:29am - Josh_hates_you ""] why does everyone like meshuggah so much?? i had their none ep about 10 years ago almost maybe 8 or 9 and it was cool. but then their later cds kind of sucked and now there new shit is very NU metal. come to think of it the none ep is kind of nu metal sounding |
| ________________________________________ [Apr 29,2004 10:31am - Joe/NotCommon ""] Don't worry Josh, I hate Meshuggah too. |
| ___________________________________ [Apr 29,2004 10:35am - Mike_FOD ""] Haha I don't know how anyone listening to Meshuggah could ever think that was nu metal, but hey if they are? Consider me the biggest nu metal fan then. Meshuggah > any other band named. |
| ________________________________________ [Apr 29,2004 10:41am - sitroMmuidOeD ""] "Nothing" is sub-par. "True Human Design" is where it's at. |
| ____________________________________________________ [Apr 29,2004 10:46am - attendmyrequiem @ school ""] Yes Meshuggah is nu-metal! I'm gonna go buy a Coal Chamber shirt and wear size 5000 jeans. I quit real metal if this is the truth. |
| _________________________________________ [Apr 29,2004 10:51am - Josh_hates_you ""] attendmyrequiem @ school said:Yes Meshuggah is nu-metal! I'm gonna go buy a Coal Chamber shirt and wear size 5000 jeans. I quit real metal if this is the truth. ill even buy you a gift certificate for hott topic to buy that nifty coal chamber shirt |
| ________________________________________ [Apr 29,2004 10:52am - sitroMmuidOeD ""] Size 5000, what're you, anorexic? You need at least size n+1² to be nu. |
| ______________________________________ [Apr 29,2004 11:16am - RustedAngel ""] attendmyrequiem @ school said:Might I add that Solipsist wouldn't have been half as bad if they didn't turn New Millenium Cyanide Christ into a complete waste. They also lack the key parts to Meshuggah that require more than two people: the eerie element and the solos. Which means they are just a bunch of chugs that lead to nothing. and if they are just fucking around why go as far as, let's say naming your band. BHBS is less a Meshuggah rip off than a Candiria rip off with a difference in guitar tone. oh come on devin... why are you being so harsh on solipsist? I'll tell you dude, rob can outplay me anyday and he's been playing for like 4 years less. he's probably studied meshuggah more than both of us combined, and can pretty much play chaosphere all the way through on drums and guitar last time i heard? keep in mind devin, solipsist is one guitarist, and one drummer. Obviously it's going to be chugs that lead to nothing. You should try out for lead guitarist if you think they need solo's... :P the new stuff they will be writing will probably incorporate more iranach-ish riffs, fuckin nasty stuff. maybe it will shut you guys up. |
| ______________________________________ [Apr 29,2004 11:19am - RustedAngel ""] also, rob asked me to try out... though i have porphyria going, but i honestly don't think i could keep up with the kid. |
| ____________________________________________________ [Apr 29,2004 11:55am - attendmyrequiem @ school ""] I'm trying hard to be a complete ass with this, but how the hell is iranach and solipsist better than porphyria? iranach is probably the worst gutteral death i've heard come out of new england (and yes, i've heard shading the end). Who can't play devourment riffs? And being able to play chaosphere is a stretch. He didn't even get past the first section of the song without fucking the tempo of the song up. I'm not saying I'd do it any better by any means, but why taint an amazing song with the inability to play it!? |
| ____________________________________________________ [Apr 29,2004 11:58am - attendmyrequiem @ school ""] I could never do a Meshuggah song justice, so I'd never attempt it. If I did, I'd expect worse things than negative feedback on the RTTP. |
| ______________________________________ [Apr 29,2004 12:14pm - RustedAngel ""] you'd have to watch rob in a live situation, and you should have especially seen him play live in iranach... the vocals were not my style but the music was. their recordings don't do them justice seriously. |
| ______________________________________ [Apr 29,2004 12:15pm - RustedAngel ""] besides, they are two berkley students that happen to be friends with rev and want to play a few shows here and there.. nothing wrong with that. |
| ___________________________________ [Apr 29,2004 12:21pm - Mike_FOD ""] RustedAngel said: the new stuff they will be writing will probably incorporate more iranach-ish riffs, fuckin nasty stuff. maybe it will shut you guys up. Only thing that will shut me up is Meshuggah's Catch 33, whenever it comes out. They're the true owners of staccato riffing. |
| _______________________________ [Apr 29,2004 6:33pm - Rico ""] Attention: Fredrik Thordendal called... Said he wants his riffs back. |
| _________________________________________ [May 11,2004 1:54am - AllanHoldsworth ""] solipsist is not a serious band. our music is just for personal enjoyment. we've played 2 shows in our 2 year existence. this band is not something we dedicate ourselves to. therefore it doesn't bother me that people are hacking up our songs. when it comes down to it, yes it is 100% Meshuggah influenced. i don't care, it's fun as fuck to play. it definitely sounds weak with no bass or vocals, but we're just fucking around. there is one thing i would like to clear up though... we didn't play NMCC on the radio (we played it while setting up to check the mic levels). it wasn't broadcast on the radio. i just looked at the drummer and said "play new millenium cyanide christ at 120" and we just did it for the fuck of it, then he sped up the click track about half a minute in and we kept going through the end cuz we hadn't played it in so long. the drummer honestly hadn't played that song in over a year. |
| ____________________________________ [May 11,2004 1:17pm - tyagxgrind ""] my question for you all is... why make a big deal out of nothing? like them or not debating this is kind of pointless. esp. considering that the conversation is going no where fast. let them have fun playing whatever they like. there is no need to criticize anyone on music playing ability because you might never know how talented they are until they play up to there full potential. |
| ___________________________________ [May 11,2004 5:31pm - Paul FOD ""] IF shading the end was that bad why do i still get merch orders and positive reviews from the wunh demo? |
| ____________________________________ [May 11,2004 6:11pm - anonymous ""] rob you the man, fuck these guys |
| ____________________________________ [May 11,2004 6:19pm - anonymous ""] besides, i love metal but its so full of fags who sit on their fucking ass and talk shit on their fucking computer all day but dont have the balls or talent to show their underbelly and put them selfs out there in a band(= nh metal scene) rob loves playing meshugga influenced shit=solopist so fucking what |