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Patriots looking to trade Randy Moss to the Vikings

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[Oct 6,2010 4:47pm - Big bag of assorted nigger parts  ""]
What?
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[Oct 6,2010 6:22pm - RustyPS ""]
don't get my hopes up about Fitzy...got a mancrush on that guy
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[Oct 7,2010 12:12am - xmikex ""]
Insult to injury: Pat Chung misses out on special teams player of the week to (ugh) Josh Scobee. Give me a break.
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[Oct 7,2010 12:39am - Pires ""]

RustyPS said:don't get my hopes up about Fitzy...got a mancrush on that guy


have you seen his ass? Felger can't stop raving about it.
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[Oct 7,2010 6:18am - RustyPS ""]

Pires said:
RustyPS said:don't get my hopes up about Fitzy...got a mancrush on that guy


have you seen his ass? Felger can't stop raving about it.

I don't wanna fuck him like Felger does
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[Oct 7,2010 10:14am - Kadoog-a-go-go  ""]

xmikex said:Insult to injury: Pat Chung misses out on special teams player of the week to (ugh) Josh Scobee. Give me a break.


yeesh.

If the Pats somehow worked something out with Fitzgerald I'd probably shit all over the place. Out of excitement, of course.

I know he's getting dicked over by shitty QBs right now, but don't see how to make the trade happen. Then again, I don't get paid to figure these things out. Someone does, and that someone might just be able to pull it off.

Who knows and here's hopin'.
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[Oct 7,2010 10:22am - ouchdrummer ""]
well, they should be rebuilding this year, so maybe they'd be willing to trade him for prospects.
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[Oct 7,2010 10:44am - xmikex ""]
Rebuilding?! This team has had 11 picks in the first 3 rounds over the last 2 seasons. Half the problem with this team right now is that it's too young. They gave contract extensions to their franchise defensive player, and their franchise QB. This is the time to compete.

I think the 2007 roster spoiled us. Realistically speaking, every team has holes. The Saints just won a Superbowl with Scott Fujita as their pass rusher. The Steelers won a Superbowl the year prior with a terrible offensive line. The Giants won a Superbowl right before that with a sub par secondary.

But to say that the Pats need to hang it up after a 3-1 start is missing the point by a mile.
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[Oct 7,2010 10:46am - xmikex ""]
But don't worry everyone

Deion Branch is coming to save us.
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[Oct 7,2010 10:47am - DreadKill ""]
i think he was talking about arizona rebuilding
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[Oct 7,2010 12:31pm - xmikex ""]
Well then...
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[Oct 7,2010 1:35pm - Slag nli  ""]
All of this is irrelevant since there will be no 2011 season.
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[Oct 7,2010 4:11pm - nick327  ""]
Pats loan Moss to Vikings to help them beat Jets during Pats bye week, Pats get Moss back after.

.....I'm trying way too hard to get this trade to make sense.
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[Oct 7,2010 4:16pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]
haha that would be nice
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[Oct 7,2010 6:04pm - FrankovHell  ""]
Moss is over rated and over entitled, Fuck him. Who cares.
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[Oct 7,2010 6:11pm - xmikex ""]

nick327 said:Pats loan Moss to Vikings to help them beat Jets during Pats bye week, Pats get Moss back after.

.....I'm trying way too hard to get this trade to make sense.



Rex Ryan actually posed that scenario in a press conference when he was complaining about having to prepare for Randy Moss on Monday. He jokingly said Belichick would love to do it just to fuck with him.
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[Oct 7,2010 6:13pm - xmikex ""]

FrankovHell said:Moss is over rated and over entitled, Fuck him. Who cares.


Based on what? His 14,000+ career yards? Or his 150+ career touchdowns? Quiet down.
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[Oct 7,2010 6:21pm - FrankovHell  ""]
Hes old, hes not going to be worth a contract especially with a lockout year. I'd MUCH rather they signed Mankins. Moss is incabable of being a team player no matter where he goes. NE has won super bowls with vastly less offensive weapons at recieving core even without moss. I dont understand why all you guys cry over a player who obviously doesn't give a shit about his team other than "fuck you pay me" .
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[Oct 7,2010 7:45pm - xmikex ""]
Well part of it for me is that I feel like people are mistaking Moss' trademark attitude for the root problems of the team. I'm hearing a lot of "Oh great, we ditched the ego, now let's get back to being a model organization." It scapegoats Moss as the cause of the teams inconsistency instead of the more complicated issues of poor coaching, poor organizing, a several year long lapse in drafting strength, and a much more tangible lack of commitment from big name defensive players.

Boston loves to vilify guys on their way out. Randy Moss might be an egomaniac, but unlike your usual egomaniacs he produced. Drawing devil horns on him as he's on his way out only masks the real issues that most people get can't get their brains around.
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[Oct 7,2010 8:16pm - RustyPS ""]
Notice how, besides what Moss said publicly while he was here, we didn't hear about any of the "issues" he was causing (blow up with O'Brien, pissing off Belichick, gathering the players during the National Anthem to get them going, etc.) until AFTER he was traded....seems fishy to me, especially after Belichick made it a point today to come out publicly (the press conference he had today was not a regularly scheduled one) to completely refute it all
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[Oct 7,2010 8:28pm - xgodzillax ""]
Bo Jackson.
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[Oct 8,2010 8:35am - RustyPS should be working  ""]
Wallach on T&R is reporting that Pats have had talks with San Diego for Vincent Jackson...apparently, SD isn't interested in Mankins though
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[Oct 8,2010 8:57am - ouchdrummer ""]

xmikex said:Rebuilding?! This team has had 11 picks in the first 3 rounds over the last 2 seasons. Half the problem with this team right now is that it's too young. They gave contract extensions to their franchise defensive player, and their franchise QB. This is the time to compete.

I think the 2007 roster spoiled us. Realistically speaking, every team has holes. The Saints just won a Superbowl with Scott Fujita as their pass rusher. The Steelers won a Superbowl the year prior with a terrible offensive line. The Giants won a Superbowl right before that with a sub par secondary.

But to say that the Pats need to hang it up after a 3-1 start is missing the point by a mile.



I was talking about Arizona, i was saying maybe they would trade fitzie cause THEY need to rebuild. Sorry for the confusion.
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[Oct 8,2010 8:58am - ouchdrummer ""]

DreadKill said:i think he was talking about arizona rebuilding


YES
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[Oct 8,2010 9:11am - xmikex ""]

ouchdrummer said:
Sorry for the confusion.



Hey man! Say that to my face!!
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[Oct 8,2010 9:16am - xmikex ""]

RustyPS%20should%20be%20working said:Wallach on T&R is reporting that Pats have had talks with San Diego for Vincent Jackson...apparently, SD isn't interested in Mankins though


I don't see why the Chargers would want Mankins. Their offensive line is fine the way it is.

Supposedly the Chargers asking price is a 2nd and a 3rd outside the conference, and a 1st and a 2nd inside the conference. If the Pats give up a 1st and a 2nd for Vincent Jackson this will without a doubt be an even bigger failure than unloading Moss for a 3rd.

Chris Johnson was bitching about the Titans not going after Randy Moss. There was obvious interest from all over the NFL. There HAD to have been a team out there willing to offer more than a late 3rd round pick. I try and try to get past this, but every day I think of a new reason to hate this trade.
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[Oct 8,2010 9:19am - RustyPS should be working  ""]
yea, that price tag is way too steep...especially considering you're going to have to sign him to get him on the field AND he's suspended for a while once he does return

with that said, they need to do something before next week to have this make sense, and I ain't talking about getting Branch back here
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[Oct 8,2010 9:43am - ouchdrummer ""]

xmikex said:
ouchdrummer said:
Sorry for the confusion.



Hey man! Say that to my face!!


I'M SORRY!
*cowers in corner*
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[Oct 8,2010 9:51am - arilliusbm ""]
I just think Bill has faith in Tate and Hernandez
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[Oct 8,2010 10:38am - xmikex ""]

arilliusbm said:I just think Bill has faith in Tate and Hernandez


So all 245 lbs of Aaron Hernandez is going to out run corners on fly patterns?
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[Oct 8,2010 10:53am - arilliusbm ""]
No deep threat, you're right.

You can tell he loves the guy, though.
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[Oct 8,2010 11:08am - xmikex ""]
Adam Schefter restores some sanity

"Vincent Jackson is not headed to New England," Schefter said in a Friday morning interview on Boston sports radio station WEEI. "You look at it and you say it makes sense, it's just not going to happen."

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"Vincent Jackson, You're going to have to spend roughly $50 million [on a contract extension] -- $9 [million], $10 million a year on a wide receiver that's one strike away from a yearlong suspension," he said. "On top of that, San Diego is adamant that it get back a second- and third-round pick, and New England has done a tremendous job stockpiling picks, I don't think is in the business of looking to unload those picks for a premium-price player when we may have all these picks in a draft that is incredibly rich in talent and in which there may be a rookie cap and you get basically these guys under contract at a bargain rate."

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[Oct 8,2010 11:11am - BobNOMAAMRooney nli  ""]
Vincent Jackson is a second tier receiver with spindly legs that look like they came off an antique end table.
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[Oct 8,2010 11:58am - arilliusbm ""]
"Preliminary reports are coming out that Branch should be with the Patriots within a week."
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[Oct 8,2010 12:24pm - xmikex ""]
Perfect. Hot off a 437 yard, 2 TD season with the Seahawks. Get ya wheelchairs ready.

I liked the idea of Branch coming over here a year ago as a 3rd or 4th option. They went with fucking Joey Galloway instead. Now we've got a whole depth chart of 3rd and 4th options and a talented draft pick that can't even get on the field because of it.

And at this point, is Seattle really in that much of a rush to cough up Branch? It would certainly make room for Golden Tate to develop. But as it stands they've (somehow) got a shot to compete in their division. Is a 5th round pick worth taking a bite out of their already slim passing attack?

Then again new coaches love to dump guys like this. Ugh. It'll probably happen.
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[Oct 8,2010 12:39pm - arilliusbm ""]
Bradys been calling branch all week.
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[Oct 8,2010 12:54pm - RustyPS should be working  ""]

arilliusbm said:Bradys been calling branch all week.
That's cute
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[Oct 8,2010 1:15pm - DreadKill ""]
i wouldn't mind having branch back if it only cost a 6th or 7th rounder, but anyone expecting him to be anything more than the last option in the passing game is nuts. anyone expecting him to replace randy is beyond nuts.
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[Oct 8,2010 1:39pm - xmikex ""]

arilliusbm said:Bradys been calling branch all week.


better be swapping recipes. do not want.
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[Oct 8,2010 1:47pm - arilliusbm ""]
Looking at his stats..
Branch has 29 career receiving TDs. He's barely 31 years old.
Biggest difference with Moss is height. Moss is 6'4'' I believe, whereas Branch is 5'9, 5'10
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[Oct 8,2010 2:14pm - xmikex ""]
Other notable differences:

* Even when festering on the Raiders Moss never dropped below a 12 1/2 yard per reception average. Branch is coming off a 9.7 yard per catch avg.

* In 12 complete seasons Moss has missed only 6 games. Branch hasn't played a complete season since 2005. He's missed 19 games since being traded to the Seahawks.

* Branch's catches for first downs from 2009, 2008, and 2007 barely edge out Moss' first down catches in 2009.

* Does anyone care to remember that Deion Branch is the same guy that held out and demanded to be traded to anywhere but New England because he thought he was bigger than Tom Brady and Belichick?
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[Oct 8,2010 2:19pm - arilliusbm ""]
hahaha. Apparently that's not what happened now
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[Oct 8,2010 2:22pm - RustyPS should be working  ""]
ya know what I find hilarious about the whole Deion Branch thing?

if you listen to as much sports radio as I do, you will hear callers bitching about the Pats trading him away TO THIS DAY because the year after, their best WRs were Caldwell and Gaffney...what people neglect to point out is that the Pats got a 1st round pick for a guy who has never had a 1000-yard season or more than 5 TDs in a single regular season his whole career

and now if they give up anything more than a 5th round pick to get him back, there will be rioting in the streets...Pats Nation can eat a dick
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[Oct 8,2010 3:03pm - xmikex ""]
Jerod Mayo for Deion Branch is Belichick's Babe Ruth for cash. Anyone who disagrees is out of their mind.

Moss for a 3rd will turn out to be Belichick's Jeff Bagwell for Larry Anderson. Anyone who disagrees is raviolis.
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[Oct 8,2010 3:05pm - arilliusbm ""]
Read TheSportsGuys article on it if you haven't, yet
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[Oct 8,2010 3:18pm - xmikex ""]
Every time Brady went back to pass, planted his feet, bent his knees a little and looked long, you thought one thing: MOSS!!!!!!!!!! I used to stand up. I really did. Just the sight of Brady taking that extra second brought me off the sofa.


If you didn't, you're a pussy.
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[Oct 8,2010 7:33pm - SkinSandwich ""]
A rolling Brady collects no Moss.
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[Oct 8,2010 7:59pm - Dankill  ""]
Mike, Felger had an interesting take on the Branch trade. In short, he said if you looked at Branch's stats like Yards per catch ,TDs and whatnot, he seems like he's the same guy we had. The other point he made was that the Seahawks have misused him, at his height, size and style, in a west coast offense when he's a WR perfect for the spread offense. So the injuries would be attributed to the additional beatings he'd take as an undersized WR in a up the middle hit heavy west coast scheme.

Otherwise, Vincent Jackson and Larry Fitz is never gonna happen.

One guy I'd wonder about, Lee Evans. Talented guy rotting in Buffalo. I know he's in our division but that team is fire sale ready.

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