pay to play[views:36699][posts:113]________________________________________ [Jun 23,2011 10:21am - AndrewBastard ""] sweet email I just got: Hi, My name is Rob and I work for Nemesis Entertainment. I am interested in booking PanzerBastard. Are you available on August 23rd show at church with Joey belladonna? Could you do 50 tickets at $17, need $680 back? Thank You, Rob Nemesis Entertainment |
| _________________________________ [Jun 23,2011 10:24am - Kevord ""] Only play if Mayhem's opening. |
| ____________________________________________ [Jun 23,2011 10:27am - FuckIsMySignature ""] only play to pay is real |
| _________________________________ [Jun 23,2011 10:31am - xmikex ""] Dear Rob, I would like to purchase 1 $680 ticket to Joey Belladonna. Please meet me at METAL THURSDAY. |
| _______________________________ [Jun 23,2011 10:32am - Yeti ""] pay & park & pay |
| ___________________________________________ [Jun 23,2011 10:43am - largefreakatzero ""] Sounds legit, how could you go wrong? This is your BIG CHANCE to open for Joey. |
| _______________________________ [Jun 23,2011 10:44am - Yeti ""] PanzerBelladonna |
| ____________________________________ [Jun 23,2011 10:53am - dreadkill ""] CSDO will headline |
| _________________________________ [Jun 23,2011 10:56am - burnsy ""] PaytoPlastered |
| ________________________________ [Jun 23,2011 11:06am - timma ""] I assume the subject line of this e-mail was "Worst Idea Ever (details inside)" |
| _________________________________ [Jun 23,2011 11:13am - Kevord ""] Joey Belladonna should have to sell tickets to play with PanzerBastard. K.Panzer has been on TV more in the last year then Joey has. Married with Children won't return his calls and he doesn't know why. |
| ________________________________________ [Jun 23,2011 11:33am - JustinVaettir ""] It's not pay to play, it's work to play, you fuckin hobby rockers. |
| ____________________________________ [Jun 23,2011 11:41am - dyingmuse ""] Awesome email, do it man!!!! While your at it how about do the promoters job....actually, I dont wanna lay brick today, could you do mine too? These people who say its the bands job, and they have to work is reidculous. They dont realize how much serious bands do work. Fuck that. |
| ____________________________________ [Jun 23,2011 11:41am - arktouros ""] AndrewBastard said:sweet email I just got: Could you do 50 tickets at $17, need $680 back? So the band would make $180 IF they sold ALL the tickets, moved and setup all their equipment, and played? And if the show doesn't meet quota? What kind of dumbass thinks this is okay? |
| ________________________________________ [Jun 23,2011 11:52am - AndrewBastard ""] response: It's not pay to play. You are making money. Can you sell tickets? Thank you, Rob NEMESIS Entertainment Sent from my iPhone |
| _________________________________ [Jun 23,2011 11:55am - Kevord ""] I'm wondering the same thing I was when he played the Palladium a few months ago. Who's paying to see Joey Belladonna? I'm a huge Slayer fan but if Tom Araya was playing a solo show I probably wouldn't go out of my way to see him. |
| _____________________________________ [Jun 23,2011 11:56am - eyeroller ""] Pay to play = [img] |
| ________________________________________ [Jun 23,2011 11:57am - JustinVaettir ""] Paone to play |
| _____________________________________ [Jun 23,2011 11:59am - RichHorror ""] We got a similar e-mail, only I believe it was to sell tickets to play with Revocation. Hahaha. |
| _________________________________ [Jun 23,2011 12:01pm - Kevord ""] I'm sure Your Pain is endearing would be happy to sell tickets to Revocation. |
| ________________________________________ [Jun 23,2011 12:03pm - Blessed_Offal ""] I wouldn't sell tickets to play a show with Type O Negative opening for Rainbow. |
| ________________________________ [Jun 23,2011 12:03pm - Mutis ""] This looks like a job for a certain manager who goes by the name of "Carl". |
| _______________________________ [Jun 23,2011 12:10pm - Lamp ""] So this is the really cool show you were talking about. |
| ____________________________________________ [Jun 23,2011 12:32pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] RichHorror said:We got a similar e-mail, only I believe it was to sell tickets to play with Revocation. Hahaha. lol same |
| _______________________________________ [Jun 23,2011 12:38pm - the_reverend ""] cry for the indians. |
| __________________________________ [Jun 23,2011 12:42pm - Jasper ""] Pay-to-play to open for Joey Belladonna? That's a paddlin'. |
| __________________________________ [Jun 23,2011 1:02pm - ShadowSD ""] arktouros said: AndrewBastard said:sweet email I just got: Could you do 50 tickets at $17, need $680 back? So the band would make $180 IF they sold ALL the tickets, moved and setup all their equipment, and played? Actually, it's worse, $170 by my math. Sad thing is that if this show was at the Webster, a band would only make $50 (I can't imagine the Palladium is much different). I personally think if a single date support band brings in $850 of ticket sales, even for a costly national tour (which Joey Belladona is not exactly), they ought to make AT LEAST half of that back as an incentive for selling the damn tickets in the first place, and that would probably lead to bands selling more in the end anyway. When will places learn that you can't ask bands to bring you a loaf and give them a crumb, and expect good bands to keep taking the shows and work themselves to the bone just to wipe someone else's ass. People might bother more if they weren't getting ripped off. |
| ______________________________ [Jun 23,2011 1:09pm - Yeti ""] if your band was world-reknowned like CSDO, you'd know. they were around when Dwyer was crawling out of the ocean. |
| _______________________________ [Jun 23,2011 1:11pm - CSDO ""] I'm good friends with Belladonna and the bookers. If you cant work for it, then fuck off and try to make your own shows. |
| __________________________________ [Jun 23,2011 1:17pm - bastard ""] pay to play ist krieg |
| ___________________________________ [Jun 23,2011 2:11pm - dyingmuse ""] selling tickets shouldn't be the agenda here, it's the music. If we are asked to Try to sell tickets, that's fine, I am willing to do that. but saying it will be the be all end all factor in playing, fuck that, we would be out. It is NOT the local bands job to sell a touring acts tickets, It's the touring band that is responsible, That is why promotors get paid. A local band is supposed to help by bring their fans, however, people are flakes, and it's just not cool to do that shit. After all the local bands pay for gas, rehearsal space, recording and whatnot, why the fuck should we pay more? Fuck pay to play! Ohh and fuck Belladonna lol |
| ____________________________________________ [Jun 23,2011 3:02pm - Elizabeth del Mar ""] FUCK THE FIRE DEPARTMENT! |
| ________________________________________ [Jun 23,2011 3:52pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] CSDO said:I'm good friends with Belladonna and the bookers. If you cant work for it, then fuck off and try to make your own shows. Maybe copying Nuclear Assault songs and cutting off jeans to make shorts isn't work, but us bands who actually have original material and release albums and provide some sort of entertainment at a show are already working pretty hard. |
| _____________________________________ [Jun 23,2011 3:54pm - Randy_Marsh ""] CSDO is really important, ok? |
| ___________________________________ [Jun 23,2011 3:55pm - dreadkill ""] john bush or 8564546 tickets |
| ________________________________ [Jun 23,2011 4:09pm - Shanal ""] DestroyYouAlot said: CSDO said:I'm good friends with Belladonna and the bookers. If you cant work for it, then fuck off and try to make your own shows. Maybe copying Nuclear Assault songs and cutting off jeans to make shorts isn't work, but us bands who actually have original material and release albums and provide some sort of entertainment at a show are already working pretty hard. This. |
| ________________________________ [Jun 23,2011 4:12pm - Kevord ""] CSDO has to be the easiest Troll to play. But it's always like flies to shit around here. |
| ________________________________________ [Jun 23,2011 4:14pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] NO U |
| _____________________________________ [Jun 23,2011 5:51pm - NemesisRob ""] xmikex said:Dear Rob, I would like to purchase 1 $680 ticket to Joey Belladonna. Please meet me at METAL THURSDAY. Thanks for your interest, xmikex! It would be great if you wore a specific band shirt, so I would know who to look for... How about SEPULTURA??? I wouldn't want you to buy a ticket to a different event by mistake! |
| ___________________________________________ [Jun 23,2011 5:53pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] LOL |
| ____________________________________ [Jun 23,2011 5:53pm - RichHorror ""] New England Broccoli Rabe & Thursday Fest |
| ________________________________________ [Jun 23,2011 6:01pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] RichHorror said:New England Broccoli Rabe & CREME FRAICHE, FUCK YEAAAAAAAAH Fest [img] |
| _________________________________________ [Jun 23,2011 6:05pm - bobnomaamrooney ""] The only notable thing Joey Belladonna's done in the past 21 years is looked exactly like a girl I went to high school with in the "Got the Time" video. |
| ______________________________ [Jun 23,2011 6:29pm - Lamp ""] The best thing about this current CSDO troll is that it still sounds too smart to actually be Eric Paone. |
| ___________________________________ [Jun 23,2011 6:31pm - nekronaut ""] Payday is the worst candy bar ever. |
| ____________________________________ [Jun 23,2011 6:32pm - RichHorror ""] Watchmaker is the best black metal band. |
| ________________________________ [Jun 23,2011 6:55pm - shanal ""] Gay4Pay > Pay2Play |
| ___________________________________________ [Jun 23,2011 7:04pm - Blessed_Offtroll ""] Penis is the best thing to suck on. |
| ________________________________ [Jun 23,2011 7:13pm - shanal ""] if we're following brotocol |
| _______________________________________ [Jul 5,2011 10:10pm - AndrewBastard ""] so the dude got back in touch with me: ___________________EMAIL #3__________________________ From: NEMESIS Entertainment <nemesisentertainment@live.com> To: dimatteoandrew@yahoo.com Sent: Tue, July 5, 2011 6:12:39 PM Subject: RE: PanzerBastard booking August 23rd church Hey Andrew, We ended up dropping joey. Are you still available to play? Thanks, Rob Nemesis Entertainment ___________________RESPONSE #2__________________________ Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 08:51:53 -0700 From: dimatteoandrew@yahoo.com Subject: Re: PanzerBastard booking August 23rd Joey Belladonna To: nemesisentertainment@live.com nope! sorry... Andrew DiMatteo Graphics / Color Specialist ARC Boston 401-249-7213 617-292-0111 ___________________EMAIL #2__________________________ From: NEMESIS Entertainment <nemesisentertainment@live.com> To: Andrew DiMatteo <dimatteoandrew@yahoo.com> Sent: Thu, June 23, 2011 10:25:39 AM Subject: Re: PanzerBastard booking August 23rd Joey Belladonna It's not pay to play. You are making money. Can you sell tickets? Thank you, Rob NEMESIS Entertainment Sent from my iPhone ___________________RESPONSE #1__________________________ On Jun 23, 2011, at 10:21 AM, Andrew DiMatteo <dimatteoandrew@yahoo.com> wrote: we dont pay to play...sorry but thanks anyway Andrew DiMatteo Graphics / Color Specialist ARC Boston 401-249-7213 617-292-0111 ___________________EMAIL #1__________________________ From: NEMESIS Entertainment <nemesisentertainment@live.com> To: dimatteoandrew@yahoo.com Sent: Wed, June 22, 2011 8:52:07 PM Subject: PanzerBastard booking August 23rd Joey Belladonna Hi, My name is Rob and I work for Nemesis Entertainment. I am interested in booking PanzerBastard. Are you available on August 23rd show at church with Joey belladonna? Could you do 50 tickets at $17, need $680 back? Thank You, Rob Nemesis Entertainment |
| _______________________________ [Jul 5,2011 10:20pm - Pires ""] It's not pay to play you idiots. It's work to play. SM: 0 |
| ______________________________________ [Jul 6,2011 8:07am - AndrewBastard ""] this mornings response from him: Re: PanzerBastard booking August 23rd church ... From: NEMESIS Entertainment <nemesisentertainment@live.com> [Chat now] ... View Contact To: Andrew DiMatteo <dimatteoandrew@yahoo.com> I did not ask you to, that was if there was a big headliner. Why are you against them? Are you available? What do you think you would draw? Thank you, Rob NEMESIS Entertainment Sent from my iPhone |
| _________________________________________ [Jul 6,2011 9:27am - largefreakatzero ""] http://nemesisentertainment.com/ Solid business model here. |
| ____________________________________ [Jul 6,2011 9:33am - The_Rooster ""] There's a new thing going on here in Albany that is cracking me the fuck up.... you sell tickets, etc.... BUT, the incentive to sell, is that the show's lineup is based on how many tickets each band sells. So the band that sells the most, gets the "best" spot in the lineup (i.e. headlines, or plays directly before headliner). Corrosion of Conformity is playing this month... there are 7 fucking local openers on the bill all fighting for that prime spot. Fucking gross. |
| _________________________________________ [Jul 6,2011 9:37am - largefreakatzero ""] Haha, I remember that tool Serge doing that at the Bombshelter. I think that was the last time we agreed to sell anything for anybody. |
| ____________________________________________ [Jul 6,2011 9:48am - MarkFuckingRichards ""] Fucking weird, I was reading this thread and an email from this dude popped up asking us to play this show. It's a sign. |
| ________________________________ [Jul 6,2011 10:13am - xmikex ""] I forgot my phone at home, otherwise I'd post the picture. But New England Concerts is booking Sevendust and "20+ BANDS" at this place in Fitchburg. One of the bands made a flyer and put it up outside that little convenient store by the Sound Museum on N Beacon. I died laughing when I saw the "BUY NO FEE TICKETS FROM US" tag at the bottom. |
| _______________________________________ [Jul 6,2011 10:24am - aaron_michael ""] AndrewBastard said: Joey belladonna? 50 tickets at $17, need $680 back?, Rob Nemesis Entertainment I know it's been picked apart over and over, but still, this request.. [img] |
| ___________________________________ [Jul 6,2011 10:31am - nekronaut ""] xmikex said:I forgot my phone at home, otherwise I'd post the picture. But New England Concerts is booking Sevendust and "20+ BANDS" at this place in Fitchburg. One of the bands made a flyer and put it up outside that little convenient store by the Sound Museum on N Beacon. I died laughing when I saw the "BUY NO FEE TICKETS FROM US" tag at the bottom. Pretty sure that flyer is at least a year old. Also, the store has a name, Taliban-11. |
| __________________________________ [Jul 6,2011 10:37am - ShadowSD ""] The_Rooster said:There's a new thing going on here in Albany that is cracking me the fuck up.... you sell tickets, etc.... BUT, the incentive to sell, is that the show's lineup is based on how many tickets each band sells. So the band that sells the most, gets the "best" spot in the lineup (i.e. headlines, or plays directly before headliner). Corrosion of Conformity is playing this month... there are 7 fucking local openers on the bill all fighting for that prime spot. Fucking gross. The Webster Theatre in Hartford has been doing that for at least a decade, if not more. |
| ________________________________ [Jul 6,2011 10:37am - xmikex ""] Mike Eleftheratos: Sevendust Historian. |
| ___________________________________ [Jul 6,2011 10:41am - nekronaut ""] As sad and unfortunate as it may be, I am actually in a Sevendust music video. |
| ___________________________________ [Jul 6,2011 10:42am - nekronaut ""] ..and in the special features of the Strangeland DVD |
| _________________________________________ [Jul 6,2011 10:50am - bloblovesmusic ""] even my "band" was asked to play this show |
| __________________________________ [Jul 6,2011 10:54am - ShadowSD ""] You have a band, Wren? |
| _______________________________________ [Jul 6,2011 11:01am - aaron_michael ""] Wren and the Troubled Tribbles. They rule. |
| ____________________________________________ [Jul 6,2011 11:59am - GregD-Blessedoffal ""] No. |
| ___________________________________ [Jul 6,2011 12:22pm - narkybark ""] We got the email too. There were absolutely no details in it though. |
| ____________________________________ [Jul 6,2011 12:27pm - Arist nli ""] We got asked a few weeks ago too said how he doesn't do pay to play, then asks to give him 260 dollars |
| ________________________________________ [Jul 6,2011 5:14pm - Headbanging_Man ""] Artist Support Nemesis Entertainment is excited to offer artists an array of free resources designed to help up-and-coming acts succeed. Whether you're looking for promotion tips and strategies that will give your act the highest probability of bringing out the crowd you're looking for, ideas on improving your live performance, or simply useful tools like free flyer generators, the Nemesis Artist Support sections below are worth checking out. Artist Promotion Resources, Strategies & Tips Performance Tips & Strategies Helpful Online Resources & Websites Hmmm... Let's take a look at some of these fine resources... Performance Tips There are several things you can do before, during and after a show to make the most of your performance. The better your performance, the more all of the promotion and networking work you've done before the show will pay off. Before the Show * Be prepared for your set. Make sure you have everything ready before hand. Making a checklist before the show of all the instruments and equipment that you'll need will help ensure you don't forget anything. Have a well-planned set list so that you know what you are going to perform and in what order. Also make sure you have back-ups of the essentials like guitar picks, drum sticks, etc. It's always better to be prepared than have something happen on stage that you're not ready for. When you as a band are well organized, the audience will pick up on this, and see you as professionals. * Socializing Socializing is often one of those things that many bands know they should do, but don't. It also happens to be one of the most important things for growing your fan base. Before your set, you should walk around the venue. Meet the other bands and their fans and introduce yourselves. This is a simple step, but it will help make a lasting impression that will carry over to future shows. The more you meet people and introduce yourselves, the faster your fan base will grow. * Merchandise Fans love merchandise. Any merchandise that you can distribute/sell at a show will help your band in two important ways. First, obviously, it's an opportunity to generate revenue that can be put toward the band. Second, and arguably more importantly, it's an opportunity to boost your act's visibility via both branding (e.g., t-shirts and posters with your act's name on them) and getting your music out there on CDs. It's a good idea to bring a folding table to a show if you plan on selling merchandise, just in case the venue doesn't have one available. Anything that you want to sell, such as stickers, t-shirts, posters... etc. is absolutely a good idea. But know that you don't have to spend a lot of money on your merch. Burning a bunch of CDs works just as well. That way you can sell them for a couple bucks, or even give them out for free. During Your Set * Engage the Audience Make sure to engage the audience as much as possible during your set. This will improve the general vibe of the performance by helping the audience feel like they are a part of the show. One good way to do this is to pause between songs and say a few words. You can introduce the next song, maybe say something on what it's about, or when you wrote it. Also, you can let the audience know about any other shows you have coming up, or mention the merchandise you are going to have on sale. Anything that gets the audience involved will help. Make sure to ask questions. One tried-and-true method is to offer a free t-shirt to the fan that cheers the loudest in anticipation of the next song. * Stay Energetic & Positive Show the audience that you're having fun. If you're having fun on stage, the audience will sense it and feed off your excitement. Don't be a 'downer' act that takes the whole solemn 'tortured' musician concept too far. Even if you're music is fantastic, the audience will be less likely to appreciate you personally if you don't give them a reason to like you. Of course, don't be disingenuous with your excitement either, as the audience can tell. * Avoid Common Mistakes Some common performance mistakes to avoid: 1) Failing to introduce your act when you first get on stage. Clearly mentioning your act's name and what you're about is essential to creating a lasting impression. You never want to be in a situation where someone says, "I heard this awesome band last Saturday... now if only I could remember their name." 2) Failing to wrap up your set by clearly indicating that it's over and by thanking the audience. Thanking the audience and letting them know you've finished you're set is not only the polite thing to do, but more importantly it lets them know it's time to thank you back. If you just walk off without properly wrapping up your set, it's less likely that you will be asked for an encore. 3) Turning your back to the audience during your performance, or failing to look them in the eye. Turning your back demonstrates at the very least that you're less interested in connecting with the audience, or even worse, that you might be shy. 4) Attacking or criticizing the audience or an audience member. Ok so this mistake is a bit less common, but unfortunately it does happen. Nonetheless, it's a very serious mistake that will almost certainly damage your act's reputation, so just smile and suck it up if you ever get that urge. And, importantly, if you do ever feel compelled to criticize the audience, ask yourself why. They are there to have fun, and so should you. Don't let a single rotten apple in the crowd (a booer) spoil the fun. After the Show * Stick around after your performance and connect with bands and fans. If you can, after your performance stick around for the night. Talk to as many fans as you can, and introduce yourself. Also, talk to the other bands. The best way to get yourself known in the local music scene and in the music industry is to start meeting everyone you can. You can't make a positive impression if you don't try to make an impression in the first place. Networking starts at the local level, but if you do it before and after every show, your fan base will grow rapidly. * Collect the email addresses of fans that enjoyed your set and are interested in what you're up to, but don't be pushy! When you talk to fans that enjoyed your set, you can ask them if they are interested in giving you their email addresses to stay in touch and to be informed about upcoming events. This is an excellent way to network and to grow your fan base. However, DO NOT pressure fans into giving their email addresses, as this can be a major turn off. Make sure to let them know that you will respect their privacy and will only use their email address to keep them informed. Make sure to keep that promise! |
| ________________________________________ [Jul 6,2011 5:16pm - Headbanging_Man ""] Headbanging_Man said:* Be prepared for your set. Make sure you have everything ready before hand. Making a checklist before the show of all the instruments and equipment that you'll need will help ensure you don't forget anything. Have a well-planned set list so that you know what you are going to perform and in what order. Also make sure you have back-ups of the essentials like guitar picks, drum sticks, etc. It's always better to be prepared than have something happen on stage that you're not ready for. When you as a band are well organized, the audience will pick up on this, and see you as professionals. :point: Attn: HIRUDINEA |
| _____________________________ [Jul 6,2011 5:27pm - Yeti ""] if you need a guide, you have already failed. |
| ________________________________ [Jul 6,2011 6:24pm - kilgore ""] http://m.facebook.com/#!/event.php?eid=165...990992&_ft_mf_objid=230825636940257 |
| _________________________________ [Jul 6,2011 6:35pm - Archaeon ""] classic RTTP thread in the making. Needs more controversy, someone email that guy this thread. |
| _________________________________________ [Jul 6,2011 7:09pm - largefreakatzero ""] Needs moar Carl Cheddarsmooth. |
| _______________________________ [Jul 6,2011 7:42pm - KEVORD ""] It will never reach Black Metal Lady Status. |
| ___________________________________ [Jul 6,2011 8:02pm - deathchick ""] This is the guy behind Nemesis, Rob [img] his facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/robwmetal He also contacted Abnormality to sell tickets to play shows, which we politely turned down. |
| _________________________________________ [Jul 6,2011 8:04pm - largefreakatzero ""] ^Wow, just wow. I forsee this thread becoming epic. |
| _____________________________________ [Jul 6,2011 8:06pm - burger snob ""] Headbanging_Man said: 4) Attacking or criticizing the audience or an audience member. Ok so this mistake is a bit less common, but unfortunately it does happen. Nonetheless, it's a very serious mistake that will almost certainly damage your act's reputation BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| _______________________________ [Jul 6,2011 8:20pm - KEVORD ""] Is there anything douchier than using the word Metal in conjunction with your name? If there is I fail to see it. |
| _______________________________ [Jul 6,2011 8:40pm - xmikex ""] Headbanging_Man said: * Engage the Audience Make sure to engage the audience as much as possible during your set. This will improve the general vibe of the performance by helping the audience feel like they are a part of the show. One good way to do this is to pause between songs and say a few words. You can introduce the next song, maybe say something on what it's about, or when you wrote it. Also, you can let the audience know about any other shows you have coming up, or mention the merchandise you are going to have on sale. Anything that gets the audience involved will help. Make sure to ask questions. One tried-and-true method is to offer a free t-shirt to the fan that cheers the loudest in anticipation of the next song. He forgot key points like making your set drag on forever with unwitty between-song banter. Going on for fucking ever about things nobody gives a shit about. Showing zero respect for the other bands by eating up time someone else could be playing. Making sure that the guy with the hour drive home doesn't get to see a touring Japanese band that comes around never because you're bigger than the devil. UNLESS YOURE THE HEADLINING BAND SHUT THE FUCK UP AND PLAY. |
| _______________________________ [Jul 6,2011 8:47pm - xmikex ""] deathchick said:This is the guy behind Nemesis, Rob [img] his facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/robwmetal He also contacted Abnormality to sell tickets to play shows, which we politely turned down. Looks like another packed house for Nemesis Productions. |
| ______________________________ [Jul 7,2011 10:34am - Yeti ""] xmikex said: Headbanging_Man said: * Engage the Audience Make sure to engage the audience as much as possible during your set. This will improve the general vibe of the performance by helping the audience feel like they are a part of the show. One good way to do this is to pause between songs and say a few words. You can introduce the next song, maybe say something on what it's about, or when you wrote it. Also, you can let the audience know about any other shows you have coming up, or mention the merchandise you are going to have on sale. Anything that gets the audience involved will help. Make sure to ask questions. One tried-and-true method is to offer a free t-shirt to the fan that cheers the loudest in anticipation of the next song. He forgot key points like making your set drag on forever with unwitty between-song banter. Going on for fucking ever about things nobody gives a shit about. Showing zero respect for the other bands by eating up time someone else could be playing. Making sure that the guy with the hour drive home doesn't get to see a touring Japanese band that comes around never because you're bigger than the devil. UNLESS YOURE THE HEADLINING BAND SHUT THE FUCK UP AND PLAY. hahaha i am guilty of this, only i don't eat into set times. just my own. |
| ___________________________________________ [Jul 7,2011 10:48am - FuckIsMySignature ""] i think most people would agree that your witty banter is a welcomed part of our sets, tony. just dont do it after a 12 pack of double bags haha. |
| _______________________________ [Jul 7,2011 11:01am - Mutis ""] PAY2FAP > PAY2PLAY bennyhillifier |
| ________________________________ [Jul 7,2011 11:16am - xmikex ""] Sometimes banter is a way you deal with nerves. Sometimes you just see a microphone and feel pressured to say something. It happens to the best of us and I've def made an unwanted speech or two in my day. Some people have awesome natural stage presence and I don't mind hearing them say a few quick words in between songs. The rest of us aren't KPanzer and need to stfu and get to work. |
| _______________________________________ [Jul 7,2011 11:31am - AndrewBastard ""] mike SHHH he doesnt need any encouragement... there's a PB video from the Lido show with EHG and I sweat the first 2 mins of it are him ranting...he talks longer than the song lasts. |
| ______________________________ [Jul 7,2011 11:33am - ark ""] throw salt and spit wine at people, don't say a goddamn thing. |
| ________________________________________ [Jul 7,2011 4:57pm - Headbanging_Man ""] I don't know, after all that IRL social networking before the set, and bringing your own folding table from home, it seems like a wasted opportunity to fail to run down your full merch price list in an uplifting, yet low-pressure fashion for all your new friends in the audience... You've sold your 50 tickets, it's your time to shine, champ! |
| ________________________________ [Jul 7,2011 5:15pm - Doomkid ""] That list of tips is actually pretty good, particularly the bit about stage presence. I cannot tell you how many bands (ESPECIALLY metal bands) have failed to impress me with their music because they completely lack the charisma to communicate it live. Bits about merch prep and display: totally on the ball, collecting email addresses: should just network in general, bit about the set list: I'd say just know every song you have a chance of playing and be aware of your time during the set. |
| _____________________________ [Jul 7,2011 5:20pm - Yeti ""] only winging it is real. |
| ___________________________________________________ [Jul 7,2011 6:58pm - RustyPS should be working ""] xmikex said:Sometimes banter is a way you deal with nerves. Sometimes you just see a microphone and feel pressured to say something. It happens to the best of us and I've def made an unwanted speech or two in my day. Some people have awesome natural stage presence and I don't mind hearing them say a few quick words in between songs. The rest of us aren't KPanzer and need to stfu and get to work. Mike Shea: Truth Speaker |
| ______________________________ [Jul 7,2011 7:33pm - Seth ""] Have to say this .... in Ascendancy, we just planned it all out and yet still Terence would count out loud before the song......(name of song) 1 2 3 (start of song) ..still funny to this day!! |
| __________________________________ [Jul 8,2011 3:21am - Spaldino ""] Shred Boston has a model similar to this. although you dont have to pre-sell tickets. his fool proof plan to rip you off is to have the door staff ask people , as they are coming in, who they are there to see. only the people at the door dont give a fuck and ask like 1/4 of the people coming in. you get paid based on how many people said your band when they are coming in. nothing beats bringing in like 25 people on a wednesday and getting paid 10 bucks. |
| ___________________________________ [Jul 8,2011 9:43am - RichHorror ""] ATTN: MIKE We aren't cool with each other anymore. Commence text storm/rumor mill. |
| _____________________________________ [Jul 8,2011 9:48am - SLAAAAG NLI ""] talking is unneccesary - let music speak for itself. |
| _______________________________ [Jul 8,2011 9:52am - xmikex ""] ITT: Rich has no idea I was mentioned in like 3 episodes of Roseanne. |
| ____________________________________ [Jul 8,2011 10:01am - RichHorror ""] The sound of my own voice is the greatest and most beautiful music I've ever heard. |
| ________________________________ [Jul 8,2011 10:12am - xmikex ""] Only when it entices local garbage pail kids to try and kick you in the nuts after making fun of Razormaze. |
| ____________________________________ [Jul 8,2011 10:13am - RichHorror ""] WHATEVER BRAH U IN NEW JERSEY |
| ________________________________ [Jul 8,2011 10:25am - xmikex ""] Shows what you know. I'm still in Boston, Columbus. |
| ____________________________________ [Jul 8,2011 10:26am - RichHorror ""] : ( |
| ________________________________________ [Jul 8,2011 11:47am - DestroyYouAlot ""] burger%20snob said: Headbanging_Man said: 4) Attacking or criticizing the audience or an audience member. Ok so this mistake is a bit less common, but unfortunately it does happen. Nonetheless, it's a very serious mistake that will almost certainly damage your act's reputation BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Only assaulting the audience is real. |
| _______________________________ [Jul 8,2011 12:07pm - Mutis ""] That's something shitty bands like Dr Acula does |
| _____________________________________ [Jul 8,2011 4:27pm - Burger Snob ""] Spaldino said:Shred Boston has a model similar to this. although you dont have to pre-sell tickets. his fool proof plan to rip you off is to have the door staff ask people , as they are coming in, who they are there to see. only the people at the door dont give a fuck and ask like 1/4 of the people coming in. you get paid based on how many people said your band when they are coming in. nothing beats bringing in like 25 people on a wednesday and getting paid 10 bucks. |
| _____________________________________ [Jul 8,2011 4:28pm - Burger Snob ""] ooops I hit enter by accident. I meant to say, dont blame Shred for lazy door people. Its not like He's getting your money. It just goes to the headliner |
| _____________________________________ [Jul 8,2011 4:29pm - Burger Snob ""] also, don't blame Shred when your friends told the door guy they were there to see the headliner |
| __________________________________________ [Jul 8,2011 4:36pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] i blame shred for all of life's problems. |
| _______________________________ [Jul 8,2011 4:39pm - KEVORD ""] I blame Shredder for all the Ninja Turtles problems. |
| _________________________________ [Jul 8,2011 4:49pm - ShadowSD ""] [img] Once again, Krang gets off scott free... |
| _____________________________ [Jul 8,2011 8:51pm - Lamp ""] xmikex said:He forgot key points like making your set drag on forever with unwitty between-song banter. Going on for fucking ever about things nobody gives a shit about. Showing zero respect for the other bands by eating up time someone else could be playing. Making sure that the guy with the hour drive home doesn't get to see a touring Japanese band that comes around never because you're bigger than the devil. UNLESS YOURE THE HEADLINING BAND SHUT THE FUCK UP AND PLAY. Haha damn, old grudges live hard! |
| ________________________________ [Jul 11,2011 2:35pm - Shanal ""] [img] |
| ________________________________ [Jul 12,2011 4:35pm - xmikex ""] haha no grudges lamp. Sean and I laugh about that show all the time since he was in Throwing Shrapnel. But I really wish I got to see Unholy Grave. |
| ______________________________ [Jul 12,2011 4:48pm - Lamp ""] I very clearly remember working as a baker at the time and getting home at 2:30 in the morning to go to work at 3. I just about keeled over. I was already super tired on top of that already too. Unholy Grave I remember being fun but their records are so unmemorable it probably has to do with why I can't remember how they sounded. And boy oh boy has Magrudergrind gotten unbelievably shitty since then. |