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Nov 7 (Mon) - Cynic, 3, Scale The Summit - the Palladium (Worcester, MA)

Cynic - Worcester Palladium Monday November 7

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[Oct 27,2011 4:16pm - arilliusbm ""]
Just heard about this. Dont know about the other bands but I wouldnt mind seeing Fagnic again
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[Oct 27,2011 4:17pm - arilliusbm ""]
Oops not posted as show list and not on events. Too lazy
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[Oct 27,2011 4:17pm - ark  ""]
Fagnic huh.
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[Oct 27,2011 4:20pm - arilliusbm ""]
Word of the day. I love Cynic, and Paul is a total fag now. Doesnt matter though. Awesome musician
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[Oct 27,2011 4:27pm - BSV  ""]
Cynic sucks! No one has ever given me a good reason to like them other than the fact listeners think they're suddenly smarter for listening to them, like Mozart gives you A's on exams, yeah guy.
BORING.
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[Oct 27,2011 4:28pm - Alx_Casket ""]
lol. typical aril post:

___ sucks, but ____ is pretty cool guy though
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[Oct 27,2011 4:34pm - BSV  ""]
typical Cynic fan, "OH MAN THIS BAND IS AWESOME, THEY USED TO HAVE A DEATH METAL DEMO BUT THEN PUSSIED OUT AND MAKE SAFE PSUEDO F-ZERO METAL NOW, IT'S AMAZING STUFF. LISTENING TO IT MAKES YOU THINK YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT."
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[Oct 27,2011 4:36pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]
i like parts of their first album. the more recent one bored the fuck out of me. would go see them for free.
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[Oct 27,2011 4:36pm - arilliusbm ""]
never said any of that
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[Oct 27,2011 4:42pm - goatcatalyst ""]
Demos are great. Everything after can fuck right off. Especially those twink vocoder vocals
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[Oct 27,2011 4:45pm - arilliusbm ""]
Ive always loved their demos abd focus. I love Pauls guitar style and dont feel smarter listening to it. Newer Cynic is mostly a disappointment to me, but still listenable.

Ive always preferred Athiest to Cynic, as far as jazzy/fusiony/florida bands go, albiet different styles
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[Oct 27,2011 4:49pm - BSV  ""]
Cynic is a gateway band of gay that leads towards Dream Theater. I mean, you can open that door and go down that road, if you're a total faggot and whatnot. It wouldn't be so bad if they didn't try so hard to appeal to metalheads and so many didn't buy into it. Followers are basically in a league with crabcore, "WHAT MAN, IT'S AWESOME STUFF, CATCHY AS HELL. WHY DON'T YOU BE A LITTLE MORE OPEN MINDED, GAWD".
Fuck off. Neil Young's Trans is more brutal than Cynic.
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[Oct 27,2011 4:50pm - blue ""]
something tells me josh doesnt like cynic, not sure what.


if i can pull off all the gas for this and exhumed the night, im there.
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[Oct 27,2011 4:50pm - AndrewBastard ""]

BSV said: PSUEDO F-ZERO METAL



starting a band like this


fav game on SNES.
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[Oct 27,2011 4:52pm - arilliusbm ""]
Lol. Good game
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[Oct 27,2011 4:53pm - zyklon ""]
Is Paul really gay? I know he's a little flamboyant when he talks but that doesn't make him gay
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[Oct 27,2011 4:55pm - arilliusbm ""]
Hahaha I know what youre saying Josh.. I know people exactly like that.
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[Oct 27,2011 4:56pm - BSV  ""]

blue said:something tells me josh doesnt like cynic, not sure what.


because it's arrogant music full of crappy hooks and licks. the bass playing is the only redeemable aspect and for the most part it's overdone, pretentious and total unmemorable. been hating on this band for years! can't stop. won't stop.
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[Oct 27,2011 4:57pm - arilliusbm ""]
Josh, do you like gordian knot at least?
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[Oct 27,2011 5:00pm - BSV  ""]
never heard them. what should I start with?
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[Oct 27,2011 5:00pm - goatcatalyst ""]
Only balloon knot is real
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[Oct 27,2011 5:02pm - blue ""]
jawshy, i know why you dont like cynic. tis a joke. your explanation however is how i feel about 99% of tool & DT fans.
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[Oct 27,2011 5:02pm - Mark_R ""]
^ hahaha

I'm going to this. I'm pretty bored with Cynic's new stuff but the band 3 is awesome and they are the real reason to go as far as I'm concerned.

Also RE Cynic as a gateway to DT, I think it's the other way around. DT fans tend to discover Cynic on their way up/out.
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[Oct 27,2011 5:02pm - BSV  ""]
I'd rather listen to electronic music that has feeling and a purpose.
When Cynic comes out and admits that the vocoder was just a way to get through to their brain dead mute fans, I'll respect them. Otherwise, file them under RETARDED BANDS WHO ARE NOT NEIL YOUNG.

bennyhillifier
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[Oct 27,2011 5:03pm - Mark_R ""]

BSV said:When Cynic comes out and admits that the vocoder was just a way to get through to their brain dead mute fans, I'll respect them.


I thought it was known that the vocoder was a result of Paul blowing out his voice because he had never attempted death metal vox before recording the album. Not a true story?
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[Oct 27,2011 5:09pm - arilliusbm ""]
Neil Young > most metal

Gordian Knot is Sean Malone's (Cynic bass) instrumental project that has a bunch of guest musicians. Bill Bruford of King Crimson fame drummed on the 2nd album. It's chill out music, nothing mind blowing.
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[Oct 27,2011 5:16pm - Yeti ""]

blue said:jawshy, i know why you dont like cynic. tis a joke. your explanation however is how i feel about 99% of tool fans.


THIS THIS AND MORE THIS.


and yes i agree with Josh, Cynic is a borefest.
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[Oct 27,2011 10:18pm - i_am_lazy  ""]
I've been told some of my solos remind people of F-Zero.
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[Oct 27,2011 10:19pm - i_am_lazy  ""]
But yeah, I also found Cynic after Dream Theater, I'm pretty sure.
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[Oct 27,2011 11:12pm - BSV  ""]
I'VE BEEN TOLD SOME OF MY FUCKS REMIND BROADS OF WILD GOOSE GETTING IT DONE.
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[Oct 28,2011 3:44am - NEIL YOUNG  ""]

bennyhillifier


I LOVE CYNIC! AND COCK!!!





bennyhillifier


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[Oct 28,2011 4:19am - Lamp ""]
I had never listened to this band before now and just looked up some stuff from Focus, this seriously sounds like shit they would play on the Weather Channel.
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[Oct 28,2011 4:23am - Lamp ""]
The first song I listened to sounded cool, but it was also instrumental. It didn't sound like metal to me so I didn't think of it as such. But what the ass is with these vocals? Is this the origin of all the autotuned crap out there today? The whole album should have stayed instrumental.
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[Oct 30,2011 10:30pm - arilliusbm ""]
This is UPSTAIRS, the other bands are
3
Scale the Summit.

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[Oct 30,2011 10:35pm - KEVORD ""]
This shits wack. Decibel probably has a boner over this tour.
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[Oct 30,2011 11:01pm - burnsy ""]

arilliusbm said:This is UPSTAIRS, the other bands are
3
Scale the Summit.



El oh fucking Elle. Further reason to avoid that city one more night.
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[Oct 30,2011 11:52pm - Martins ""]
3 is sick
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[Oct 31,2011 8:47am - BSV  ""]
I will admit this though....Atheist was such a disappointment live at MDF a few years ago. The only way Cynic could be better is if they smoke Atheist in playing live department.
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[Oct 31,2011 9:00am - blue ""]
Last time I saw Cynic they were ridiculously on point, note for note.
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[Oct 31,2011 9:03am - arilliusbm ""]
At Harpers Ferry? They didnt miss a note. Then again, they had those Dutch guys in the band. Different lineup now.
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[Oct 31,2011 9:06am - the_reverend ""]
Atheist was a disappointment @ MDF. Cynic at harpers was awesome.
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[Oct 31,2011 9:08am - blue ""]
That post was me (Blue). I'm logged in, must be a conspiracy


Edit: now it shows up. Masvidal and Reinert had no problem keeping up with the new guys.
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[Oct 31,2011 9:10am - arilliusbm ""]
In fact, what is the lineup now? I havent even heard the new stuff thats posted above, either.
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[Oct 31,2011 9:46am - arilliusbm ""]
Brandon Griffin - (live) bass (2011-present)
Max Phelps - (live) guitar, vocals (2011-present)


Bass player is former Faceless bassist
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[Oct 31,2011 9:49am - BSV  ""]
oh shit Brandon is with them now? used to warm up on chromatic scales with him. csb.
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[Oct 31,2011 9:51am - arilliusbm ""]
Will that sway you to come? haha
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[Oct 31,2011 9:56am - BSV  ""]
i only go to palladium shows I'm guestlisted. unless it's Krisiun.
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[Oct 31,2011 10:00am - arilliusbm ""]
Krisiuns new stuff sounded decent. Nothing innovative or diffetent, but I bet itll slay live. Haven't seen them in a while. one of my favorite live bands.
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[Oct 31,2011 12:44pm - NEIL YOUNG  ""]
I, NEIL YOUNG, WILL BE THERE!!! My fat hippy ass could use the yoga!

New stuff is amazing. Like angels fucking dirty diapers, with chanty hippy shit for choruses. The death metal is a lie, Cynic is teh yogi rock! Get in shape with gay sex, yoga, and the occasional Holdsworthy solo. It's like the 60's for me all over again, but with no girls at the concerts this time.





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[Oct 31,2011 12:47pm - the_reverend ""]
monday show?!?
FU!!!
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[Oct 31,2011 10:19pm - mikefrommaine ""]
All three of these bands are fucking amazing. I have class Monday nights. I am fucking tired of these sweet shows during the week lately that I can't go to.
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[Oct 31,2011 11:34pm - reimroc ""]
aril's ravioli demoman skills will be attending this.
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[Oct 31,2011 11:51pm - arilliusbm ""]
are you?
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[Nov 1,2011 1:03am - reimroc ""]
yea you gowta problem wit dat!?
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[Nov 1,2011 6:54am - arilliusbm ""]
Meet me and I'll buy you a beer or two for harrassing you about rehab lulz
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[Nov 7,2011 10:20am - arilliusbm ""]
Tonight
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[Nov 7,2011 10:24am - Alx_Casket ""]
what revy said.
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[Nov 7,2011 10:25am - FuckIsMySignature ""]
why are there so many good metal shows at the palladium this week. NEEDS MOAR MONEYS
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[Nov 7,2011 10:29am - arilliusbm ""]
if its not sold out and you want in, I can grab ticket
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[Nov 7,2011 10:32am - FuckIsMySignature ""]
thanks but i gotta save my dough for Exhumed tomorrow.
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[Nov 7,2011 10:34am - Blessed_Offal ""]

arilliusbm said: I wouldnt mind seeing Cyndick again
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[Nov 7,2011 10:36am - Mark_R ""]
3 is great, but I just don't know if they're drive-to-Worcester-for-them-opening great. I wouldn't think twice about going but I just went there yesterday and will be back again tomorrow.
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[Nov 7,2011 2:01pm - i_am_lazy  ""]
I'm kinda tempted to go now that I actually have more money. May turn this into a 6-nights-in-Worcester week.
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[Nov 7,2011 2:05pm - arilliusbm ""]

i_am_lazy said:I'm kinda tempted to go now that I actually have more money. May turn this into a 6-nights-in-Worcester week.


Sounds familiar
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[Nov 7,2011 2:15pm - Alx_Casket ""]
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[Nov 7,2011 2:20pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]
thats... i dont know that is.
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[Nov 7,2011 4:27pm - goatcatalyst ""]
Not now, not neva
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[Nov 7,2011 4:51pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]
buttdarts unite!
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[Nov 7,2011 4:55pm - arilliusbm ""]
offer still stands to smash prognerd faces
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[Nov 7,2011 7:47pm - Mark_R ""]
Fuck, car got towed. No prog metal for me tonight. No gore metal tomorrow either :( urrrghhhh. At least I made it to Mayhem.
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[Nov 7,2011 9:14pm - arilliusbm ""]
that sucks man. Missed scale the summit, 3 is talented but I'm bored thus far. trolled them and yelled smooth criminal at them because the vocals sound like that shitty alien ant farm band
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[Nov 7,2011 10:52pm - arilliusbm ""]
I_am_not_me ben just won a gold IRL troll medal of the year.
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[Nov 7,2011 11:02pm - Martins ""]

arilliusbm said:that sucks man. Missed scale the summit, 3 is talented but I'm bored thus far. trolled them and yelled smooth criminal at them because the vocals sound like that shitty alien ant farm band


They sing about lizard people so you should pay attention
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[Nov 7,2011 11:51pm - arilliusbm ""]
no thanks. good music, vocals were meh.
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[Nov 8,2011 12:18am - BobNOMAAMRooney ""]
If you missed Scale the Summit you didn't miss anything. Not even worth the download.
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[Nov 8,2011 12:24am - i_am_lazy  ""]
Scale the Summit is decent...Chris Letchford is a ridiculous guitarist. Too bad you couldn't fucking hear him for the majority of the set.
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[Nov 8,2011 7:16am - arilliusbm ""]
Venue: 3/10 Let' face it, the Palladium sucks. It was good at one point, but that was aeons ago. The Palladium upstairs is absolute bullshit; the vision sucks, the sound sucks, the beer sucks, and the place is delapidated now. Not to mention they blocked off the portion of the balcony closest to the stage, WITH NO EXPLANATION.

Atmosphere: 6/10 Cynic had a fog machine, some floor lighting, and a back drop with a repeating image that fluctuated. It seemed nice and cool to look at, but again: the Palladium hinders the atmosphere simply because the place sucks now.

Crowd: 2/10 Why rate or even pay attention to the crowd you say? Well, to me, it also adds to the feeling of the show. This crowd was full of duck duck goosers, 12 year old girls, hipsters, and normal looking average schmoes that looked like they were there because they were bored. You could tell that 75% of the crowd didn't know much about Focus, and only cared about Traced In Air and its subsequent releases.

Main Event: 6/10. Cynic is a really tight band, both anally and musically. Paul and Sean never mess up on their instruments, so it adds to the experience. That being said, I think last year's show blew this out of the water. The newer lineup was decent, but I thinked the Exivious guys were a little tighter, and had better stage presence. The bass was turned too low at times, and second guitar was barely audible at times. Regardless, the band was still very tight-sounding and played some tracks off of Focus. It was nice to hear Textures, Veil of Maya, and How Could I. But let me digress a bit: the new stuff.is BORING live. The first track they played was decent, but the other new tracks lacked any emotion, and just didn't do much for me. Granted, I'm a guy that also thinks Traced in Air falls flat towards the end and has fillers, but this new stuff was somewhat boring. All in all, Cynic put on a decent show.
Ben Durgin deserves a gold medal for yelling at Paul to play an old demo song... To which Paul responded: "That is very old, and irrelevant," or something along those lines.
Irrelevancy is something that seems normal to me with my interest in Cynic. I can only take so much of their new style before it begins to bore me. The show was good, but nothing to write home about.
Overall: 5/10
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[Nov 8,2011 7:19am - Yeti ""]
sounds like this show was worth it...
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[Nov 8,2011 7:35am - arilliusbm ""]
for me to poop on!
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[Nov 8,2011 3:46pm - arilliusbm ""]
HeavensJail, was that you?
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[Nov 8,2011 3:52pm - HeavensJail_nli  ""]
wedged by the corner of the bar, wearing a Viral Load shirt under a loser yuppie fleece? yes.
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[Nov 8,2011 3:56pm - arilliusbm ""]
was going to say. You looked naked without the epic vest.
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[Nov 8,2011 5:56pm - hlrie ""]
That blocked off balcony is for photos, or at least that's what I was told and where I had to shoot the Mayhem show from. But they should at least take down that poster so fans can see through the railing.

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