Abigail Williams - Genre Hopping good or bad?[views:16800][posts:118]____________________________________ [Jan 19,2012 3:53pm - arilliusbm ""] Oh hi Mark and Mike. They are playing Ralph's soon. Opinion on them? former deathcore-band gone blackmetal. They have a decent fanbase.. But I will always remember them as a deathcore band with a girl keyboard player. They did a reverse Cryptopsy... and for that, I can't take them seriously. Someone prove me wrong before I get banned in 24 hours. |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 19,2012 3:54pm - Alx_Casket ""] I should give these guys another chance, I remember disliking them when they first came around here. |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 19,2012 3:57pm - RichHorror ""] Band fucking sucks. And I don't like Abigail Williams either. |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 19,2012 4:02pm - trioxin245 ""] stupid band |
| ________________________________ [Jan 19,2012 4:05pm - Mark_R ""] Their black metal stuff is listenable, but overall not a very good band. I hated the new songs they played at the Mayhem show. |
| _______________________________ [Jan 19,2012 4:06pm - jark ""] arilliusbm said: They did a reverse Cryptopsy and for that, I can't take them seriously. i didn't know that was the same band. weird. depending on the other bands on the show, play the show and don't be a pussy. it's not like you're playing with killswitch engage. |
| ___________________________________ [Jan 19,2012 4:06pm - dreadkill ""] devildriver effect in effect |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 19,2012 4:09pm - arilliusbm ""] I like the other (locals) on the bill but being the giant internet douchebag that I am, cant stand Abigail Williams only because of the style they hopped from. |
| ___________________________________ [Jan 19,2012 4:17pm - Czarnobog ""] i said:meh, i'd take genre hoppers who play halfway passable homage to old bm sound over trendy slip-on sneaker experimental/ambient crap any day of the week. |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 19,2012 4:18pm - arilliusbm ""] "like" |
| ___________________________________ [Jan 19,2012 4:22pm - Czarnobog ""] also, by "halfway passable homage" i mean i heard a minute of a song that sounded kinda like old emperor. the rest of their stuff might be total garbage, no idea. |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 19,2012 4:27pm - Arist nli ""] Abigail "hey guys are we black metal yet?" Williams. I like the new stuff regardless though |
| _______________________________ [Jan 19,2012 4:27pm - jark ""] if they're playing ralph's with other decent bands, i'll check it out. i'm sort of not caring whatsoever to actually listen to them until then. |
| _______________________________________ [Jan 19,2012 4:31pm - AndrewBastard ""] gayterriblefaggotrylameweakhomo |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 19,2012 4:35pm - arilliusbm ""] When I saw them live last year they werent bad. But when I found out who it was, I pulled a u turn and laughed because being close-minded sometimes is fun. |
| ________________________________ [Jan 19,2012 4:40pm - burnsy ""] They have some decent songs. Nothing that memorable though. |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 19,2012 4:44pm - randy_marsh ""] So much better faggotry than this |
| ___________________________________ [Jan 19,2012 4:47pm - narkybark ""] I had no idea they did black metal stuff. From the name alone I assumed metalcore |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 19,2012 4:49pm - the_reverend ""] they totally genre hopped. I went to see them to see the keyboardist... but got good music instead. |
| ____________________________________________________ [Jan 19,2012 4:49pm - RustyPS should be working ""] [img] |
| ___________________________________ [Jan 19,2012 5:17pm - amorok666 ""] I will always think abigail Williams is fucking gay. Sorry bros. |
| ______________________________ [Jan 19,2012 5:21pm - Yeti ""] crappy band, but will go to Ralph's. maybe in a less douchey environment they will be more tolerable. |
| __________________________________________ [Jan 19,2012 5:21pm - Fuck_Logging_In ""] Abigail Williams is a gay name fore a band. Always put them in the same category as Norma Jean. |
| ______________________________ [Jan 19,2012 5:24pm - Yeti ""] the story behind the name is at least decent, but yeah the name itself does not grab me as stellar bwack metal. |
| ___________________________________ [Jan 19,2012 8:59pm - Spaldino ""] i'm not gonna lie... i actually really like their newest album. i also like their second album. and their first album. their debut EP was gay for the most part. they are a solid band to listen to. they are sort of riding the trend wave and are now more like post-black metal/european folk/black stuff, if that makes any sense. they are good at what they do and you can't really knock them about their actual music... its well played and well produced and all very professional. |
| _____________________________________________ [Jan 19,2012 9:05pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""] I could have sworn all their stuff was "black metal" or at least a poor attempt at it...shows how much I've paid attention to them. The material I thought I remembered hearing was boring as fuck. |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 19,2012 11:21pm - arilliusbm ""] Yea.. This wil be realky good promotion to the locals playing it. AW will bring a crowd. Props to chris for grabbing them and hosting them. my own opinions on them don't really matter, I just think its lulz how they changed styles, or at least changed their attempt |
| _________________________________ [Jan 19,2012 11:24pm - burnsy ""] I feel like there's something you don't appreciate about this band. Are you holding back? It feels like you are. |
| __________________________________________ [Jan 19,2012 11:26pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] This band was/is/will be terrible for the foreseeable future. |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 19,2012 11:30pm - Alx_Casket ""] aril IS holding back, and just wants to bully Abigail Williams IRL |
| __________________________________________ [Jan 19,2012 11:32pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] Hatchet job on abigail williams for the phoenix, I should do it. |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 19,2012 11:33pm - Alx_Casket ""] I'll give it three thumbs up, ERGUGHHH! |
| _________________________________ [Jan 19,2012 11:47pm - KEVORD ""] Abigail Williams = Goatwhore. |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 12:04am - randy_marsh ""] Arilgail williams |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 1:02am - goatcatalyst ""] Didn't read thread but band sucks crooked cocks in Heaven |
| ___________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 3:13am - chriskar ""] playing with them in NYC, dont care what they sound like, just hope they draw |
| _______________________________ [Jan 20,2012 9:06am - jark ""] chriskar said:dont care what they sound like that's too bad dude, i know you'll play "any show anywhere" but maybe you'll get sick of playing with shit bands someday. |
| _______________________________ [Jan 20,2012 9:07am - jark ""] a fwiw, your band is a little too good for that. |
| __________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 9:13am - gss don ""] chriskar said:playing with them in NYC, dont care what they sound like, just hope they draw Total hipster statement |
| ___________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 9:23am - dreadkill ""] goatcatalyst said:Didn't read thread but band sucks crooked cocks in Heavenquote of the day so far |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 9:29am - arilliusbm ""] can someone take the liberty to post a youtube video of their EP music, then stuff from the new album? I'm on my phone and am too lazy. I'm curious of a side-by-side comparison |
| ___________________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 9:36am - Craven Moorehead ""] Good/fast drummer.....tis all |
| ________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 9:38am - burnsy ""] Trym played drums for them at some point. |
| ___________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 9:45am - amorok666 ""] amorok666 said:I will always think abigail Williams is fucking gay. Sorry bros. |
| ________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 9:50am - burnsy ""] Why are you sorry? No one is vehemently defending them. |
| ______________________________ [Jan 20,2012 9:57am - Lamp ""] gss%20don said: chriskar said:playing with them in NYC, dont care what they sound like, just hope they draw Total hipster statement A GSS post that I agree with? It's more likely than you think. |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 10:00am - arilliusbm ""] LOL @ it being nearly impossible to find a youtube track from their opening EP, but it being easy to get their other stuff. Trying to hide from their past, are they? Should have changed the name. |
| __________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 10:04am - zz nli ""] Who fucking cares? This is why this board sucks. People complain about music way too much. This band puts on a great show. Who the fuck cares what they used to sound like..its not relevant anymore. |
| _________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 10:06am - burnsy ""] Lol at doing a song from the ep on the new album and saying revisited. |
| ________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 10:10am - jark ""] zz%20nli said:This is why this board sucks. People complain about music way too much. i'm sure they put on a decent show, and i'm sure that's the least of this board's problems. |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 10:11am - amorok666 ""] Fuck this band. Once a deathcore faggot always a deathcore faggot. |
| ________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 10:11am - jark ""] Lamp said: gss%20don said: chriskar said:playing with them in NYC, dont care what they sound like, just hope they draw Total hipster statement A GSS post that I agree with? It's more likely than you think. betting it wasn't him. |
| ____________________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 10:13am - FuckIsMySignature ""] its least its better than Iwrestledafaggotonce's genre-hopping bullshit from last year |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 10:14am - trioxin245 ""] Im surprised there's even this much discussion on this band. They're garbage. Listen to this instead bennyhillifier |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 10:14am - randy_marsh ""] chriskar said:playing with them in NYC, dont care what they sound like, just hope they draw Wowww |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 10:15am - arilliusbm ""] amorok666 said:Fuck this band. Once a deathcore faggot always a deathcore faggot. Tell them this when you play with them U WONT |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 10:16am - randy_marsh ""] arilliusbm said: amorok666 said:Fuck this band. Once a deathcore faggot always a deathcore faggot. Tell them this when you play with them U WONT He will, i will make him |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 10:17am - trioxin245 ""] chriskar said:playing with them in NYC, dont care what they sound like, just hope they draw this statement bothered me so much that I had to repost a pic I made years ago just to express myself [img] |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 10:17am - arilliusbm ""] Abigail ist krieg |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 10:20am - amorok666 ""] arilliusbm said: amorok666 said:Fuck this band. Once a deathcore faggot always a deathcore faggot. Tell them this when you play with them U WONT Planning on it. |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 10:22am - Czarnobog ""] trioxin245 said: bennyhillifier fuck, i wish we were playing with these guys instead. ah well. |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 10:23am - randy_marsh ""] Chriskar, you are a flamboyant homosexual. |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 10:26am - amorok666 ""] Mattapan |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 10:26am - randy_marsh ""] Paul, i went to mattapan on thursday |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 10:29am - Brightside ""] At least WOE isn't on this bill. |
| _________________________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 10:32am - flamboyant homosexual ""] [img] |
| __________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 10:33am - zz nli ""] Oh wow, and now the trolling begins. Typical. |
| _______________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 11:21am - goatcatalyst ""] is Joey Lawrence gay? |
| __________________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 11:25am - bobnomaamrooney ""] Only gook Abigail is real. |
| _______________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 11:26am - goatcatalyst ""] Real talk |
| _______________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 12:59pm - Manowarrior ""] If you fools just listened to actual metal, you wouldn't have any of these problems, and we wouldn't have these threads. |
| ________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 1:08pm - KEVORD ""] [img] TO [img] = KVLT |
| _______________________________ [Jan 20,2012 1:15pm - jark ""] WOW nice rack. |
| ____________________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 1:19pm - AndrewBastard NLI ""] ross and i decided today that Notshaver probably actually likes this band |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 1:21pm - arilliusbm ""] He does, said on FB that they reminded him of Emperor |
| ______________________________ [Jan 20,2012 1:22pm - Yeti ""] if you are going to wear spiked bracers, don't fold your arms unless you are going to deal with how it feels. |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 1:22pm - arilliusbm ""] Like I said, they put on a decent show when I saw them in PVD last year. But I had no idea it was them and cant take them seriously at all because of their history. I saw them in 2006 at Marks showplace and it was a fucking joke. |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 1:25pm - arilliusbm ""] Yeti said:if you are going to wear spiked bracers, don't fold your arms unless you are going to deal with how it feels. Hahaha yea, most awkward armfold ever |
| ___________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 1:34pm - Czarnobog ""] AndrewBastard%20NLI said:Notshaver actually LOVES this band |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 1:35pm - bitch_please ""] This band is a joke. |
| ____________________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 1:52pm - nekronautloggedin ""] I don't like Emperor just said the new stuff sounded like them. Also, fuck you Mark- even though I just said that to you in person. |
| ___________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 1:54pm - Czarnobog ""] haha |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 1:55pm - arilliusbm ""] nekronautloggedin said:I don't like Emperor. WUT |
| _______________________________ [Jan 20,2012 1:56pm - jark ""] jark said:WOW nice rack. i didn't type this but yes she is a nice rack. |
| ____________________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 1:59pm - nekronautloggedin ""] Controversy. |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 2:00pm - arilliusbm ""] nekronautloggedin said:Controversy. WUT |
| ___________________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 2:00pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] ITT: jark on jark action |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 2:01pm - arilliusbm ""] nekronautloggedin said:PETCO MOTHERFUCKER That's more like it. |
| _________________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 2:01pm - bobnomaamrooney ""] Post '94 Emperor is donkeyballs |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 2:18pm - arilliusbm ""] bobnomaamrooney said:Post '94 NBA LIVE is donkeyballs |
| _______________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 2:19pm - AndrewBastard ""] LOL at doesnt like emperor but likes A.W. |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 2:21pm - Alx_Casket ""] http://www.catgifpage.com/2011/03/22/fail-rollin-fat-cat/ |
| ____________________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 2:23pm - nekronautloggedin ""] bobnomaamrooney said:Post '94 Emperor is donkeyballs I agree with this statement. I do like everything up until In the Nightside Eclipse. I don't like Abigail Williams, fuck off. |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 2:24pm - trioxin245 ""] AndrewBastard%20NLI said:notshaver decided the second he heard them that he loves this band |
| ________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 2:31pm - HA-HA ""] nekronautloggedin said: bobnomaamrooney said:Post '94 Emperor is donkeyballs I agree with this statement. I do like everything up until In the Nightside Eclipse. I don't like Abigail Williams, fuck off. [img] |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 2:33pm - Alx_Casket ""] ^bully aril |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 2:39pm - randy_marsh ""] Anthems is good too why dint you like anthems? |
| _______________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 2:40pm - AndrewBastard ""] because anthems doesnt sound like AW |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 2:43pm - randy_marsh ""] I dont understand why that guy left vehemence to be in AW. They are boring dumb. Boring dumb. |
| ___________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 2:49pm - Czarnobog ""] I HEARD MIKE IS GONNA ASK ABIGAIL WILLIAMS TO MARRY HIM. |
| ___________________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 2:52pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] Marilyn Manson is way hotter than Abigail Williams |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 2:52pm - arilliusbm ""] Bigger fan base. Candllight Records |
| ______________________________ [Jan 20,2012 3:20pm - Yeti ""] Abigail, don't you think i know what you've done? Abigail OOOOOOOOOOH |
| ______________________________ [Jan 20,2012 3:28pm - BSV ""] I played nearly 50 shows on tour with AW a few years ago and have gotten to know several members of the band. Ken knows his shit. Next to Decrepit Birth, he was the only person on the tour that could talk metal with me. He's tight with James Murphy who produces some ridiculous shit. I've never been into overproduced black metal, that's it. |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 3:30pm - arilliusbm ""] Josh with the knowledge NUKE. |
| ___________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 3:42pm - Czarnobog ""] pfft, you think any of this phases us? we opened for septic flesh dude. |
| ___________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 3:44pm - Czarnobog ""] ...not to mention like eight different black twilight bands. |
| _________________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 4:06pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] BSV said: I've never been into overproduced black metal, that's it. I'm trying to remember if you were there but I distinctly remember giving my take on overproduced black metal to Revocanthony outside a show at the Somerville Elks as "A disembodied hand like Thing from the Addam's Family with a frilly lace sleeve playing a keyboard, then later finger banging pudgy goth groupie chicks with the same keyboard dexterity" |
| ___________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 4:07pm - dreadkill ""] that's a beautiful description |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 4:13pm - frankovhell ""] black twilight LA hipsters are just as gay as AW. Overhyped pretentious. I saw AW with Rotting Christ a year or so ago and like Aril didnt realize it was them. They were decent. I also saw them at Marks then and it was horrid. I made fun of them the entire time. |
| _________________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 4:19pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] frankovhell said:black twilight LA hipsters are just as gay as AW. YUP |
| ___________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 6:38pm - Chriskar ""] Just trying to figure out which v neck to wear to The show. Black or more black? Thoughts? |
| ________________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 6:39pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] BobNOMAAMRooney said: BSV said: I've never been into overproduced black metal, that's it. I'm trying to remember if you were there but I distinctly remember giving my take on overproduced black metal to Revocanthony outside a show at the Somerville Elks as "A disembodied hand like Thing from the Addam's Family with a frilly lace sleeve playing a keyboard, then later finger banging pudgy goth groupie chicks with the same keyboard dexterity" And this is still the best thing ever. |
| __________________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 8:40pm - Niggerless Cage ""] Abigail Williams professional opening band! of every fucking metal tour bill! |
| ____________________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 8:50pm - nekronautloggedin ""] Niggerless%20Cage said:Abigail Williams professional opening band! of every fucking metal tour bill! ..don't forget Goatwhore! |
| ________________________________ [Jan 20,2012 9:04pm - KEVORD ""] Old News! KEVORD said:Abigail Williams = Goatwhore. |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 21,2012 3:19am - i_am_lazy ""] zz%20nli said: Who the fuck cares what they used to sound like..its not relevant anymore. OHAI PAUL MASVIDAL |
| __________________________________ [Jan 21,2012 8:10am - CurlyRed ""] Salem witch trials are interesting but the band is lame. |
| ___________________________________________ [Jan 21,2012 8:46am - Spencer M. Clark ""] The new stuff ia incredible. Fuck the haters. |