Aril and Rev[views:3232][posts:23]__________________________________________ [Sep 30,2012 11:08pm - conservationist ""] http://online.sfsu.edu/rone/Buddhism/footsteps.htm Interesting reading. |
| _______________________________________ [Oct 1,2012 2:00am - Ancient_Master ""] great link, thank you |
| ___________________________________ [Oct 1,2012 8:58am - arilliusbm ""] Ancient_Master said:great link, thank you Indeed. A life so simple, yet so hard at the same time. I've always had respect for Buddhism. I've never considered it a "religion" per se, but rather a way of life. Also, I think the ancient Bagan pagodas that litter Burma's landscape make for one of the most fascinating sights in all the world. [img] |
| _____________________________ [Oct 1,2012 9:05am - ark ""] the four noble truths on that site are written all retarded, here are easier ones: 1. life is suffering 2. suffering is bred by desire 3. to curb suffering, you curb desire 4. the path to curb desire is The eightfold path: Right Understanding, Right Thought, Right Speech, Right Action, Right Livelihood, Right Effort, Right Mindfulness, and Right Concentration. (thx wiki) |
| _____________________________ [Oct 1,2012 9:08am - ark ""] and yeah it's philosophy. many sects pepper in ancient east asian ancestor worship and/or regard buddha as a deity but that isn't needed for the philosophy |
| _____________________________ [Oct 1,2012 9:34am - ark ""] [img] |
| ____________________________________ [Oct 1,2012 10:03am - Alx_Casket ""] [img] |
| ______________________________ [Oct 1,2012 10:53am - Yeti ""] while this is all well and good, why are the following necessary? you can live a peaceful compassionate life through secular means, and you don't have to have your sexual desires dictated to you. not to mention that 1, 2, and 4 are nothing new. morality is not derived from doctrine, no matter how old it is. 5 is a benefit health-wise, however some of the most spiritual encounters are achieved through "intoxicants" like psylocibin, DMT, LSD, etc. 1. No killing 2. No stealing 3. No sexual misconduct 4. No lying 5. No intoxicants FREE YOURSELF. |
| ______________________________ [Oct 1,2012 11:15am - ark ""] nothing about sexual desire here. petrus said it: "desire only fuels the fire" |
| ___________________________________ [Oct 1,2012 11:18am - Boozegood ""] Itt: Westerners idealizing Buddhism and somehow missing out on its dogma, persecution, 'sins', violence, crusades, etc. Buddhism is very much a dogmatic religion, just like the rest. To lazy to find and post links via my phone right now though so my arguments dont count. But, have fun having your entrails ripped out while you are boiled alive by demons when you are reincarnated in one of the many, many Buddhist hells for not following DA RULEZ. Inb4 more "philosphy not religion" stuff. Christianity is a "philosophy not a religion" if you ignore the religious parts. |
| ____________________________________ [Oct 1,2012 11:25am - arilliusbm ""] Not all sects hold those views. That's like saying all Christians are Roman Catholics and all pagans are Wiccan. Obviously any set of beliefs is interpreted differently over many many years. 2500 years is a long time. I'm not Buddhist by any means, but respect it a hell of a lot more than any Abrahamic religions. |
| ______________________________ [Oct 1,2012 11:33am - ark ""] yeah. it's been used to justify killing, adjusted and morphed as it spread, just like many philosophies and religions. i don't think it can ultimately be classified as a religion. it does not have a creation myth, worship, or prayer, just meditation. i wouldn't say i'm a buddhist, there are truths in it that foster self-awareness, empowerment, and logic in a way that religions avoid. |
| ______________________________ [Oct 1,2012 11:34am - ark ""] tully, buddhist hells?? i think you're mixing it with hinduism. |
| ___________________________________ [Oct 1,2012 11:44am - Boozegood ""] ark said:yeah. it's been used to justify killing, adjusted and morphed as it spread, just like many philosophies and religions. i don't think it can ultimately be classified as a religion. it does not have a creation myth, worship, or prayer, just meditation. i wouldn't say i'm a buddhist, there are truths in it that foster self-awareness, empowerment, and logic in a way that religions avoid. Buddhism most certainly has all of those things, in fact it has multiple varieties of each depending on if we are talking about Mahayana/Therevada, Tibetan, Indian, Chinese, Japanese, etc. A simple example just off rhe top of my head would be Nichirin Buddhism; entirely forgoing meditation, a usual mainstay of Buddhism of course, in favor of prayer/mantras to achieve satori. Also there are certainly Buddhist hells. In fact there is an entire genre of artwork dedicated to depicting Buddhist hells. Again forgive me for being a crap conversationalist right now as I am on my phone. |
| ___________________________________ [Oct 1,2012 11:49am - Boozegood ""] http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naraka_(Buddhism) http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prayer#Buddhism Sorry that these are from wikipedia, but I have to at least attempt some sources haha. |
| ______________________________ [Oct 1,2012 11:57am - ark ""] true true, you know your shit. the demon myths of peoples get blended into it. those are older than man and they stick around. the ancient chinese death practices for example were just added into it and so did their traditional myths. there's plenty of myths and parables in it. i guess prayer/mantra and meditation could almost be the same thing. cut out the myths and sectarian potpourri and there's a nice set of philosophies that are good tools for self-psychology and dropping that ego. it certainly wasn't immune to being warped into a dogma and a tool for control. |
| ___________________________________ [Oct 1,2012 12:06pm - Boozegood ""] ark said:true true, you know your shit. the demon myths of peoples get blended into it. those are older than man and they stick around. the ancient chinese death practices for example were just added into it and so did their traditional myths. there's plenty of myths and parables in it. i guess prayer/mantra and meditation could almost be the same thing. cut out the myths and sectarian potpourri and there's a nice set of philosophies that are good tools for self-psychology and dropping that ego. it certainly wasn't immune to being warped into a dogma and a tool for control. I certainly agree but my point is that the same can be said for Christianity. So where is the line drawn? Just a few parallels would be the reciting of the rosary/Mantra or Lectio Devina/Koan-Zazen. But for some reason people are much more ready to forgive certain religions human-faults and learn from their true ideas than they are others. Certainly the Gospel of Thomas from the Dead Sea Scrolls has Jesus teaching decidily Buddhist-esque philosophy, for example. Or if we are only using cannon Christianity than the "parable of the fig tree" from the Bible rings Zen to my ears. |
| ____________________________________ [Oct 1,2012 12:11pm - arilliusbm ""] Boozegood spent so much time overseas that he only follows muhammad. |
| ___________________________________ [Oct 1,2012 12:16pm - Boozegood ""] arilliusbm said:Boozegood spent so much time overseas that he only follows muhammad. Psshhh clearly I spend my time over there worshipping the peacock avatar of Lucifer with the Yazidi. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yazidi |
| _____________________________ [Oct 1,2012 1:16pm - Yeti ""] Boozegood has spent his time preparing for the coming of Gozer. |
| ___________________________________ [Oct 1,2012 1:34pm - arilliusbm ""] Really relevant http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/30/world/asia/b...uddhist-violence/index.html?c=world |
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| _____________________________________ [Oct 2,2012 2:11am - goatcatalyst ""] Get a metaphysical room, buttdarts. |
| ___________________________________ [Oct 2,2012 9:29am - trioxin245 ""] goatcatalyst said:Get a metaphysical room, buttdarts. haha SERIOUSLY |