presidential debate #1 2012[views:18911][posts:65]_____________________________________ [Oct 3,2012 9:19pm - The_reverend ""] Listening while driving |
| __________________________________ [Oct 3,2012 9:47pm - demondave ""] tsk tsk tsk. texting while driving. and yet you wont sexting with me while driving. I was listening too while driving. now at home |
| _______________________________ [Oct 3,2012 9:48pm - Burnsy ""] Obama isn't sticking to the issues. Too many anecdotes and trail offs. Honestly, Romney is killing it thus far. |
| _________________________________________ [Oct 3,2012 9:57pm - largefreakatzero ""] Won't listen. Fuck both of these clowns. |
| _____________________________________ [Oct 3,2012 10:02pm - Randy_Marsh ""] Burnsy said:Obama isn't sticking to the issues. Too many anecdotes and trail offs. Honestly, Romney is killing it thus far. Gonna have to agree here, Obama was mentioning "educational growth" while there is a huge deficit and economic depression. |
| ________________________________ [Oct 3,2012 10:05pm - Burnsy ""] Yeah. It is just a debate though. I don't think it'll have a huge impact either way. |
| _________________________________ [Oct 3,2012 10:11pm - sxealex ""] why am i watching this its not like I really give a shit |
| _________________________________ [Oct 3,2012 10:12pm - sxealex ""] I* |
| __________________________________________ [Oct 4,2012 1:34am - slar you morbid? ""] who cares really? theyre both just reciting various reiterations of their partys platform. Maybe it's because my drive time radio is always toggling between NPR and WRKO, but i can't imagine there are that many "undecideds" at this point, who are going to be that swayed by any of these debates. It's gonna be idiot hipster/hippies blindly voting for obama and idiot terk errr jerbbs rednecks and blue collar good ol' boys blindly voting for romney, and we'll see who can be coaxed to show up to the polls in greater numbers. /democracy |
| _____________________________ [Oct 4,2012 2:00am - Lamp ""] Burnsy said:Obama isn't sticking to the issues. Too many anecdotes and trail offs. Honestly, Romney is killing it thus far. He's always been really lousy at thinking on his feet. I didn't watch the debate or anything, but have heard multiple accounts of the guy letting Romney walk all over him. Why are Democrats such pussies? |
| _____________________________________ [Oct 4,2012 3:48am - The_reverend ""] Yeah, he didn't want to interrupt romney it seemed. Anyhow, the first reply that obama gave sucked and had nothing to do with what romney said. That pissed me off. |
| ________________________________________ [Oct 4,2012 6:39am - ctb0rderpatrol ""] lol @ people getting pissed at warcriminal obama's flops |
| _______________________________ [Oct 4,2012 7:17am - Burnsy ""] The_reverend said:Yeah, he didn't want to interrupt romney it seemed. Anyhow, the first reply that obama gave sucked and had nothing to do with what romney said. That pissed me off. Yeah, it definitely seemed like one of those things where he had rehearsed a bunch for what they thought Romney was going to say and when he didn't say it, welllllll let's just try what we rehearsed and see if if sticks. |
| _____________________________________ [Oct 4,2012 7:57am - stoneylarsen ""] bennyhillifier |
| ____________________________________ [Oct 4,2012 10:09am - trioxin245 ""] slar%20you%20morbid? said:who cares really? theyre both just reciting various reiterations of their partys platform. Maybe it's because my drive time radio is always toggling between NPR and WRKO, but i can't imagine there are that many "undecideds" at this point, who are going to be that swayed by any of these debates. It's gonna be idiot hipster/hippies blindly voting for obama and idiot terk errr jerbbs rednecks and blue collar good ol' boys blindly voting for romney, and we'll see who can be coaxed to show up to the polls in greater numbers. /democracy Exactly. It floors me that people still don't seem to realize that everything is already pre-determined as far as the issues go. All the debate really proves is which candidate is better at acting than the other, because the media is more likely to make a big deal of something ridiculous like a bad facial expression or hand gesture and turn it into a reason why that person is unfit to be President than actually focus on issues, since at this point everyone who would be affected by them is most likely already locked in to a candidate. |
| ______________________________ [Oct 4,2012 10:34am - Yeti ""] i may not care for Obama, but anyone who thinks that Mitt Romney is a good alternative should be rounded up, shot and incinerated. |
| ______________________________ [Oct 4,2012 10:46am - ark ""] it was an alright debate. i thought romney didn't get into specifics as well as obama and circled back into party-line rhetoric now and then. i thought he made a big mistake by saying he wouldn't need to add revenue to lower the deficit. the best part is every 4 years people think changing presidents frequently will somehow fix the biggest economy in the world and all it's social and environmental issues. if romney wins more democrats will get elected and vice versa. |
| ____________________________________ [Oct 4,2012 10:49am - arilliusbm ""] I really wish the USA splits into multiple countries. It is necessary. |
| ____________________________________ [Oct 4,2012 11:25am - Alx_Casket ""] This is all I have to say: [img] |
| ____________________________________ [Oct 4,2012 11:33am - trioxin245 ""] ark said:it was an alright debate. i thought romney didn't get into specifics and circled back into party rhetoric I'd say that's exactly what his party wants to hear :D |
| ____________________________________ [Oct 4,2012 11:34am - trioxin245 ""] arilliusbm said:I really wish the USA splits into multiple countries. It is necessary. Agreed. New England would make a much better country on its own. We should have let the south secede. |
| ________________________________ [Oct 4,2012 11:48am - Burnsy ""] Romney got into more specifics than he did the entire campaign. Not enough people pay enough attention to know that senators and congress play a huge role. After all, their job is to create the laws. The executive branch's job is to enforce them. |
| ____________________________________ [Oct 4,2012 11:57am - trioxin245 ""] Kid your moms job is to enforce MY BALLS |
| ______________________________ [Oct 4,2012 12:02pm - ark ""] like how romney wants to repeal dodd-frank and obamacare, except keep some parts of them, except not say which parts, or how he's going to possibly convince a senate majority to do both of those things. |
| ____________________________________ [Oct 4,2012 12:07pm - arilliusbm ""] The best way to judge a politician is not by their speeches, but by their pearly white smile and their smug demeanor. Bleached teeth and clean-shaven? Ugh. Bring back gritty presidents; ones who smoked cigars, had beards and were overweight. Bring back real people. William Henry Harrison died in 30 days, BRING HIM BACK AND GIVE HIM A FAIR CHANCE |
| ___________________________________________ [Oct 4,2012 12:13pm - slow_day_on_rttp ""] you are all a bunch of HOMOS for talking about politics, go start a rage against the machine band about it |
| _____________________________________ [Oct 4,2012 12:15pm - Randy_Marsh ""] Aliens next month 2012, doesn't matter. |
| ______________________________ [Oct 4,2012 12:16pm - ark ""] zombie taft |
| ___________________________________________ [Oct 4,2012 12:16pm - slow_day_on_rttp ""] ^^^speaking of homos^^^ |
| ___________________________________________ [Oct 4,2012 12:18pm - slow_day_on_rttp ""] Randy_Marsh said:Aliens next month 2012, doesn't matter. ^^^speaking of homos^^^ *fixed* |
| _______________________________ [Oct 4,2012 12:20pm - yummy ""] I think there was a lot Obama didn't say, deliberately. It wouldn't be an exciting election season if he stayed ahead the entire time. I do believe that majority of the country has their minds made up. However, it comes down to electoral votes. Those votes are 90% of the time with their party. My real take on this...Goddamnit we suck. Where are the other options. Where is the none of the above option. You can pick what you want from insurance, to vehicles, houses, hookers, etc. But when it comes to the president it's only two paths. Fuck, I get more cynical every day. |
| ____________________________________ [Oct 4,2012 12:22pm - eyeroller ""] Kang vs Kodos. |
| _______________________________________ [Oct 4,2012 1:02pm - Ancient_Master ""] I agree with ark it is impossible to tackle all of the environmental, social and economic problems with our system of 4 year/term presidencies. They are far too deep seeded, are too interconnected, and require a perspective that is far sighted and based on long term changes beginning at a systemic level. NO ONE policy or president can institute a short term solution for these problems, the linear system itself must be disassembled and then rebuilt from the ground up. |
| ____________________________________ [Oct 4,2012 1:07pm - Sacreligion ""] Ancient_Master said:NO ONE policy INB4 90s rapcore revival band |
| _____________________________ [Oct 4,2012 1:20pm - Yeti ""] [img] |
| _____________________________ [Oct 4,2012 1:46pm - Lamp ""] AND I THINK YOUR THREE PERCENT TITANIUM TAX DOESN'T GO TOO FAR ENOUGH |
| _________________________________ [Oct 4,2012 2:08pm - eye-gore ""] Alx_Casket said:This is all I have to say: [img] LMAO, Romney now looks like he escaped the planet of the apes :krusty: |
| _________________________________ [Oct 4,2012 3:08pm - ShadowSD ""] I agree with ark, Romney was all about the illusion of being specific on the questions people actually wanted answers to going into this thing: if there aren't enough tax deductions for the rich to revoke that would pay for the tax cut of 20% which has been in Romney's plan for a year and a half, then where does that money come from if not by eliminating tax deductions for the working and middle class? When questioned or challenged that his numbers don't add up, Romney just ignored it and kept repeating the same figures as if nothing had happened, then he suddenly denied he supported a tax cut for the rich at all and swore it was only a tax cut for the middle class; now he actually has his surrogates going on the airwaves today with the message that yes it's a reduction of 20% across the board, but that means it's a tax cut only for the middle class and NOT a tax cut for the rich because it's only just a tax "reduction" for the rich - that's literally what some assfuck Senator from Utah said on my TV this morning. If America falls for that, we are stupid (fuck, we're still paying for buying into the message ten years ago in our deficit and in our economy). I think Burnsy is right though that Romney was more specific that he ever had been before. The problem was that the bar he set for specifics was so low before. I will say this, though, he definitely prepared really hard and got a lot of words in, and made the best use of his time in terms of taking opportunities to make points; I just don't think Romney denying his tax plan for the last year and a half all of a sudden in a debate can work in the age of youtube, or claiming he supports health insurance companies covering pre-existing conditions when his position up until last night has been to do so only in cases of prior continuous health insurance coverage, or claiming in the debate that states should make the calls on issues like education before twenty minutes later in the same debate talking about the importance of the federal government in bypassing the states and giving education money directly to people. It's only convincing if a person's attention span is four seconds long, and can't see someone pandering to them with rehearsed and often contradictory answers a mile away. The only actual spontaneous line in that entire 90 minute policy debate from either guy was not from Romney, it was from Obama on Romney's sudden dropping of the plan he campaigned on for eighteen months: "his big bold idea is... never mind." When Romney can be spontaneous about an answer other than "happy anniversary", I might be slightly impressed. |
| __________________________________________________ [Oct 4,2012 3:17pm - still_a_slow_day_on_rttp ""] slow_day_on_rttp said:you are all a bunch of HOMOS for talking about politics, go start a rage against the machine band about it backed, and the continuence of this thread is making me want to crap. |
| _______________________________________ [Oct 4,2012 7:38pm - my_dying_bride ""] http://www.dividedstates.com/list-of-faile...obama-green-energy-solar-companies/ |
| _______________________________________ [Oct 4,2012 7:40pm - my_dying_bride ""] drill here. drill now. drill hard. |
| ________________________________________ [Oct 4,2012 7:44pm - Headbanging_Man ""] my_dying_bride said:http://www.dividedstates.com/list-of-faile...obama-green-energy-solar-companies/ Well that looks like a rational source! Obama Slips With Socialist Agenda: ‘Everybody’s Getting a Fair Share’ – Nervous Wigged Out Eyes All Night |
| ________________________________________ [Oct 4,2012 7:47pm - Headbanging_Man ""] Here's Romney's energy plan: Drill baby, drill! |
| _______________________________ [Oct 4,2012 8:17pm - Burnsy ""] ark said:like how romney wants to repeal dodd-frank and obamacare, except keep some parts of them, except not say which parts, or how he's going to possibly convince a senate majority to do both of those things. I said he was as specific as he had been. Makes me nervous that he waited until a month from the election to elaborate AT ALL on his tax and healthcare plans. I was saying he was relatively specific. However, attack Romney on his campaign thus far. That's totally fair. In terms of this debate, he wiped the floor with the President. The President did not show up to win last night and should be embarrassed by his performance, ESPECIALLY given Romney's propensity to say some RETARDED shit. still_a_slow_day_on_rttp said: backed, and the continuence of this thread is making me want to crap. So don't open the thread, shitdick. |
| _______________________________ [Oct 4,2012 8:30pm - Burnsy ""] Headbanging_Man said:Here's Romney's energy plan: Drill baby, drill! WOW that looks like a good source too! |
| _______________________________________ [Oct 4,2012 8:31pm - my_dying_bride ""] Headbanging_Man said:Here's Romney's energy plan: Drill baby, drill! Rolling Stone? Are you serious? lol |
| _________________________________________ [Oct 4,2012 10:55pm - Headbanging_Man ""] Rolling Stone has long featured fine, serious political journalism. It's unfortunate that it comes wrapped in a pop-music package and obviously it's not without bias, but it is clearly miles above the "OMG OBAMA SOCIALIST" school of political commentary. |
| _______________________________ [Oct 4,2012 11:30pm - yummy ""] After watching the Daily Show it's apparent that Bill O'Reilly and I agree on something. Obama gave this one away. I don't care which schmo wins the election. But I predict that when Romney is at his most confident he will get buried. |
| ________________________________________ [Oct 4,2012 11:50pm - my_dying_bride ""] [img] roots in journalistic integrity |
| ____________________________________ [Oct 4,2012 11:55pm - arilliusbm ""] bennyhillifier |