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Feb 22 (Fri) - MARDUK / MOONSPELL / INQUISITION / THE FORESHADOWING / DEATH WOLF - the Palladium (Worcester, MA)

Feb 22 (Fri) - Marduk / Moonspell / Inqusition - the Palladium (Worcester, MA)

Fri. Feb. 22 Marduk, Moonspell, Forevers' Fallen Grace

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[Feb 25,2013 7:28pm - BlownUpJamPad ""]
So I went to the Marduk show in NYC....

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[Feb 26,2013 1:47am - Spence ""]
One of my FB friends who went to this has a new FB profile picture, I assume she took it the same day:

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[Feb 26,2013 4:12am - LucidCurse ""]
gross
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[Feb 26,2013 12:52pm - goatcatalyst ""]
[buttdart] : I know my life choices to date have brought you great distress and sadness but look...
[dejected father] : chicks dig fags
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[Feb 26,2013 1:06pm - substitutecreature ""]
what i don't get is the trend of corpsepaint+death metal shirt
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[Feb 28,2013 9:19am - ouchdrummer ""]

Mark_R said:Basically off-topic at this point, but how was Boarcorpse? Did they go over well? How populated was the downstairs show anyway?


Hahaha, nope! It was very brutalll in the hemroid kinda way. The fucking dipstick soundguy decided that it was a good idea to put a gate on the kickdrum. (I used my accoustic kick ONLY because set times were so short, it's much faster to set up than my rig, and i figured the fucking palladium could make it sound good.... as that's usually the only part on any band i see at the palladium that sounds good) anyways, ya.. he put a fucking GATE on it. And he set the threshhold so high that when i didn't REALLY lean into it, there was no kick drum at all.. So any pattern on the kick turned into popcorn, and any constant fast kick dissapeared completely. I thought it was just my moniter maybe, but we watched the video of it last night, and it was fucking atrociuos.

So while I'm totally aware that the kick drum isn't the most important thing in the band..... when the soundguy puts a gate on it that cuts more than half of the hits totally out of the mix, it makes the rest of the band sound sloppy as holy fuck.

Sweet jumping fuck, i hate that soundguy. I'm never using my accoustic drum again.
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[Feb 28,2013 9:44am - Burnsy ""]
That's ridiculous. I've used a gate on the kick when recording and blending the acoustic sound with a trigger in my DAW but I wonder what his reasoning was. I wouldn't downplay the role of the kick, especially in metal. A bad or good kick drum always stands out.
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[Feb 28,2013 9:48am - ouchdrummer ""]
I'm not gonna lie, I still really enjoyed just being on the downstairs stage, but jesus backflipping christ, I wanted to strangle the sound guy, and his children. When we watched the video of the set, you can literally pick out people pointing, and laughing, and how TERRIBLE my drumming sounded. (it's really easy to pick out a handful of people when there's only a couple dozen on the floor in the first place) you know what? You can't really blame them, as it sounded like my feet were connected to my ankles with jelly... it's so sad, even people i know, like Anthony from Patho just looked confused when watching us. Ugh.
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[Feb 28,2013 10:09am - my_dying_bride ""]
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[Feb 28,2013 10:12am - ÆRK  ""]

ouchdrummer said:anyways, ya.. he put a fucking GATE on it.


oh it's the nice soundman's way of saying you don't play hard enough.

...seriously I can't think of WHY THE FUCK you would ever gate a drum. That's rough man.
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[Feb 28,2013 10:17am - ÆRK  ""]
i didn't even know about this show but if it wasn't for this show there would not be THIS FUCKING AWESOME THREAD.
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[Feb 28,2013 10:18am - ouchdrummer ""]
just terrible. Thankfully though, for all future shows, my band agrees with me that I should use my electronic kick rig, even when we have a short set, and it may make it slightly shorter. Anyways, I'm done complaining... i can't believe no one's called me a faggot yet.
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[Feb 28,2013 11:10am - ÆRK  ""]
shutup fagget
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[Feb 28,2013 1:08pm - the palladium sucks dick  ""]
INB4 Alex Mooney starts a petition to save the sound guy's job
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[Feb 28,2013 1:15pm - Burnsy ""]
LOL. Tommy Ryan is about to get started on those soundguy motherfuckers.
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[Feb 28,2013 2:23pm - samepants faggets  ""]

my_dying_bride said:[img]

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[Feb 28,2013 5:54pm - ShadowSD ""]
Bad club-employed soundguys can really wreck shows, and more than occasionally do, a lot of times due to not being a musician (or a competent one) or otherwise not giving a fuck. It's not a majority of them, but there are way too many bad ones out there, and they never get fired for it.

From what I'm hearing about this show, the point isn't just gating the kick so high, which is stupid and asking for problems to begin with, but this: not noticing or correcting the problem song after song after song, which is incomprehensible and unforgivable.

Fucking a band's sound song after song due to ignorance or negligence is screwing the band over but also screwing the crowd over for the money they paid to get in, no less so than if their tickets weren't honored at the door. Note to fans: point and laugh at soundguy when things are that bad.

Rooms like the Palladium and the Webster already have high ceilings above the stage in a more classic theater room style that can make them challenging to mix, but that just underscores the fact that it's no time to be dicking around with kick gates instead of compensating for the room.

The idea that metal drummers with the talent of Jim should be reluctant to bring a real drumset because the soundguy is a damn moron is really a testament to the unbelievable rarity of clubs firing their in-house soundguy no matter how much he sucks.

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