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Metal in Manchester no cover on Friday night

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[Jun 7,2013 1:21pm - GregS ""]
Oh damn only 20 years old. That explains alot. We have ten years on you and those were spent in the real world. Sorry I thought you were an adult. My bad. now I feel shitty, thought you were just stupid or immature. Explains why your mom is still fighting your battles too. Should have said that right away and I wouldn't have been having fun with you all this time
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[Jun 7,2013 1:28pm - Ancient Master nli  ""]
LOL i was talking about you douche
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[Jun 7,2013 1:32pm - NewHamshuhBrutality ""]

GregS said:Oh damn only 20 years old. That explains alot. We have ten years on you and those were spent in the real world. Sorry I thought you were an adult. My bad. now I feel shitty, thought you were just stupid or immature. Explains why your mom is still fighting your battles too. Should have said that right away and I wouldn't have been having fun with you all this time


Boy oh boy, you sure did squander those extra ten years. If this is all you can do with that extra time and experience under your belt, then you truly are a lost cause if I ever saw one.
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[Jun 7,2013 1:32pm - DYA is ANALYZING THIS THREAD  ""]
Pitiful.
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[Jun 7,2013 1:38pm - NewHamshuhBrutality ""]
Wait, did I say "experience"? Whoops. Never mind, you obviously have none because you're making mistakes that would only be made by people who have absolutely zero knowledge of live music.
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[Jun 7,2013 1:46pm - GregS ""]
I'm not the promoter. He washed his hands with this day one. I'm just a friend who saw what went down and didn't like it. You took all the fun out of it now though.... kids will be kids so it is what it is. Entitlement generation in all it's glory. I'll bet you will learn better soon enough, all it takes is a little responsibility sometimes to wake a person up
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[Jun 7,2013 1:48pm - GregS ""]
I'm not the promoter. He washed his hands with this day one. I'm just a friend who saw what went down and didn't like it. You took all the fun out of it now though.... kids will be kids so it is what it is. Entitlement generation in all it's glory. I'll bet you will learn better soon enough, all it takes is a little responsibility sometimes to wake a person up
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[Jun 7,2013 1:48pm - RTTP HELPER TROLL  ""]
http://musicians.about.com/od/otherindustrycareers/p/Promoter.htm

What Jobs Should a Promoter Do?:
If the promoter is not tied to a specific venue, they should:

•Liase with bands and agents to agree on a date for a performance
•Negotiate a deal with the band/agent for the show - what fee will be paid? Will the promoter provide accommodation?
•Book a venue for that agreed upon date
•Promote the upcoming gig to the local press and radio, put up posters and email their mailing list
•Make sure everything the band needs is in place - backline, accommodation, rider, etc.
•Set up soundcheck times and the running order of the show
•Arrange for a support band
Venue tied promoters skip the "contact venue" step.
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[Jun 7,2013 1:48pm - GregS ""]
That's likely the smartest post that will appear here. One thing to add is in any pissing contest the prize is only a deeper puddle of piss than the other guy is standing in so if that makes one feel like a winner than so be it. It can be fun to poke at bullies and thugs though so that's good motivation to keep posting on his behalf
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[Jun 7,2013 1:49pm - GregS_  ""]
Sometimes my dad's balls smell funny.
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[Jun 7,2013 1:53pm - shutup fagget  ""]

GregS said:I'm not the promoter. He washed his hands with this day one. I'm just a friend who saw what went down and didn't like it. You took all the fun out of it now though.... kids will be kids so it is what it is. Entitlement generation in all it's glory. I'll bet you will learn better soon enough, all it takes is a little responsibility sometimes to wake a person up


shutup fagget
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[Jun 13,2013 12:39am - Reapersgrave nli  ""]

NewHamshuhBrutality said:I don't give a fuck, I'd say that shit to your face given the chance. People like you, Dave, Jordan, and Bernie are the reason why Manchester is dead. Fucking punk.


I second this.

Im not trying to be anonymous (and im sure some people on here know exactly who i am, hence using this handle to begin with) im just telling you straight out you have no idea what you're doing and the reason Manchester, NH is such a shitty place for live music is because the mentioned above people fucked it up years before you started, and you're just pissing on it even more. Kids in Manchester don't want to go to shows because the people running them suck at their jobs and don't know what to do.

Its not difficult to set up shows. Don't fuck over your talent. Have a venue secured. Don't fuck over your talent. Make sure to do your part and get people to come to your shows, you keep the band happy, make sure all equipment requirements are fulfilled. Don't fuck over your talent. Read that article a few posts up and get a clue.
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[Jun 13,2013 8:28am - NewHamshuhBrutality ""]
Yeah, and it's not as if I'm exactly incognito either, as pretty much anyone who has gone to any of the shows in Keene or has bumped into me at the Middle East knows who I am.

Also, Keene was becoming just as bad as Manchester thanks to a former associate of Dave's by the name of Ed Wily, who avoided one notorious Manchester hallmark (pay-to-play) while bumping the others up to eleven (bills full of random acts that didn't fit in with one another, dishonesty, burning bridges with a bad attitude, and, last but not least, outright thievery). When Antoine started doing booking at the Railroad sometime around Nov '12, one of the first things that he found out was that Ed stole from and was blacklisted by multiple agencies, collectively owing at least $10-12k to Pantheon and Rock the Nations. That's what we know of, anyways, though he probably stole from other ones as well. What he'd do was wire the upfront money from his gf's account so that it'd be far harder to trace, and if the show didn't break even (like the Origin show), he'd just vanish and not pay another cent. It's been a trip to hell and back just trying to clean up the mess he left.
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[Jun 13,2013 9:55am - King Thūndérstøòl  ""]

NewHamshuhBrutality said:Yeah, and it's not as if I'm exactly incognito either, as pretty much anyone who has gone to any of the shows in Keene or has bumped into me at the Middle East knows who I am.

Also, Keene was becoming just as bad as Manchester thanks to a former associate of Dave's by the name of Ed Wily, who avoided one notorious Manchester hallmark (pay-to-play) while bumping the others up to eleven (bills full of random acts that didn't fit in with one another, dishonesty, burning bridges with a bad attitude, and, last but not least, outright thievery). When Antoine started doing booking at the Railroad sometime around Nov '12, one of the first things that he found out was that Ed stole from and was blacklisted by multiple agencies, collectively owing at least $10-12k to Pantheon and Rock the Nations. That's what we know of, anyways, though he probably stole from other ones as well. What he'd do was wire the upfront money from his gf's account so that it'd be far harder to trace, and if the show didn't break even (like the Origin show), he'd just vanish and not pay another cent. It's been a trip to hell and back just trying to clean up the mess he left.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

YOU WILL NEVER SUCCEED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YOU WILL BE A FAILURE AT LIFE LIKE THUNDERSTEEL!!!!!!#
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[Jun 13,2013 10:11am - NewHamshuhBrutality ""]

King%20Thūndérstøòl said:
NewHamshuhBrutality said:Yeah, and it's not as if I'm exactly incognito either, as pretty much anyone who has gone to any of the shows in Keene or has bumped into me at the Middle East knows who I am.

Also, Keene was becoming just as bad as Manchester thanks to a former associate of Dave's by the name of Ed Wily, who avoided one notorious Manchester hallmark (pay-to-play) while bumping the others up to eleven (bills full of random acts that didn't fit in with one another, dishonesty, burning bridges with a bad attitude, and, last but not least, outright thievery). When Antoine started doing booking at the Railroad sometime around Nov '12, one of the first things that he found out was that Ed stole from and was blacklisted by multiple agencies, collectively owing at least $10-12k to Pantheon and Rock the Nations. That's what we know of, anyways, though he probably stole from other ones as well. What he'd do was wire the upfront money from his gf's account so that it'd be far harder to trace, and if the show didn't break even (like the Origin show), he'd just vanish and not pay another cent. It's been a trip to hell and back just trying to clean up the mess he left.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

YOU WILL NEVER SUCCEED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YOU WILL BE A FAILURE AT LIFE LIKE THUNDERSTEEL!!!!!!#



And you aren't a failure at life?
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[Jun 13,2013 10:31am - xmikex ""]
Greg S's Greatest Hits


GregS said:Oh damn only 20 years old. That explains alot. We have ten years on you and those were spent in the real world.


Do they have PA's in this real world? I'm also in my 30's and I've seen a lot of bad promoters come and go. None of them have ever been this nonchalant about not having a PA for a show. I can't even say I'd give you a pass if you were 18 and didn't know any better. Some of the most memorable shows I've ever seen were booked by 18 year olds that wouldn't have made the mistakes you did.


GregS said:I'm not the promoter. He washed his hands with this day one.


??? You booked the bands. You secured the venue. You came on here to PROMOTE your shows. You're the promoter. Or at least you were. Now you're a guy content to have his awesome promoting career wiped out by trolls because he's bent on being a fake tough guy.



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[Jun 13,2013 10:46am - King Thūndérstøòl  ""]

NewHamshuhBrutality said:
King%20Thūndérstøòl said:
NewHamshuhBrutality said:Yeah, and it's not as if I'm exactly incognito either, as pretty much anyone who has gone to any of the shows in Keene or has bumped into me at the Middle East knows who I am.

Also, Keene was becoming just as bad as Manchester thanks to a former associate of Dave's by the name of Ed Wily, who avoided one notorious Manchester hallmark (pay-to-play) while bumping the others up to eleven (bills full of random acts that didn't fit in with one another, dishonesty, burning bridges with a bad attitude, and, last but not least, outright thievery). When Antoine started doing booking at the Railroad sometime around Nov '12, one of the first things that he found out was that Ed stole from and was blacklisted by multiple agencies, collectively owing at least $10-12k to Pantheon and Rock the Nations. That's what we know of, anyways, though he probably stole from other ones as well. What he'd do was wire the upfront money from his gf's account so that it'd be far harder to trace, and if the show didn't break even (like the Origin show), he'd just vanish and not pay another cent. It's been a trip to hell and back just trying to clean up the mess he left.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

YOU WILL NEVER SUCCEED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YOU WILL BE A FAILURE AT LIFE LIKE THUNDERSTEEL!!!!!!#



And you aren't a failure at life?


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

I'M NOT DELUSIONAL ENOUGH TO THINK IT'S STILL THE 80S!!!!

OR STUPID ENOUGH TO THINK I CAN SAVE MANCHESTER!!!!!!!
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[Jun 13,2013 10:51am - grilled_dickcheese_sandwich ""]
The music industry is full of shady crooks and crazy people.
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[Jun 13,2013 10:59am - King Thūndérstøòl  ""]
ALSO HOW CAN I BE A FAILURE IF I'M THE GREATEST TROLL EVER??????
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[Jun 13,2013 11:13am - grilled_dickcheese_sandwich ""]
^^^^^^^^^^^^
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[Jun 13,2013 11:20am - xmikex ""]

NewHamshuhBrutality said:
King%20Thūndérstøòl said:
NewHamshuhBrutality said:Yeah, and it's not as if I'm exactly incognito either, as pretty much anyone who has gone to any of the shows in Keene or has bumped into me at the Middle East knows who I am.

Also, Keene was becoming just as bad as Manchester thanks to a former associate of Dave's by the name of Ed Wily, who avoided one notorious Manchester hallmark (pay-to-play) while bumping the others up to eleven (bills full of random acts that didn't fit in with one another, dishonesty, burning bridges with a bad attitude, and, last but not least, outright thievery). When Antoine started doing booking at the Railroad sometime around Nov '12, one of the first things that he found out was that Ed stole from and was blacklisted by multiple agencies, collectively owing at least $10-12k to Pantheon and Rock the Nations. That's what we know of, anyways, though he probably stole from other ones as well. What he'd do was wire the upfront money from his gf's account so that it'd be far harder to trace, and if the show didn't break even (like the Origin show), he'd just vanish and not pay another cent. It's been a trip to hell and back just trying to clean up the mess he left.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

YOU WILL NEVER SUCCEED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YOU WILL BE A FAILURE AT LIFE LIKE THUNDERSTEEL!!!!!!#



And you aren't a failure at life?



Don't feed the trolls, dumbass.
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[Jun 18,2013 9:51am - Alx_Casket ""]

GregS said:

bennyhillifier






Not much to it.

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[Jun 19,2013 7:34pm - Reapersgrave nli  ""]
I remember hearing about Ed Wily, and i think i know what shows you mean. Did he book at the Railroad before Antoine also? I remember when i first heard shows in Keene there was some pay to play shit going on, or shows with enough bands that i assumed it was (especially with headliners such as dying fetus and some tough guy bands i can't remember) but these days i hear the railroad is okay. Keenes just too far that i usually catch the boston shows.
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[Jun 19,2013 8:15pm - NewHamshuhBrutality ""]

Reapersgrave%20nli said:I remember hearing about Ed Wily, and i think i know what shows you mean. Did he book at the Railroad before Antoine also? I remember when i first heard shows in Keene there was some pay to play shit going on, or shows with enough bands that i assumed it was (especially with headliners such as dying fetus and some tough guy bands i can't remember) but these days i hear the railroad is okay. Keenes just too far that i usually catch the boston shows.


Yep. He was the main promoter in the Keene area for about ten or so months and managed to get Tombs, Fetus/JfaC, Origin, Inquisition, and a few others, including the aforementioned brocore bands. I don't believe there was any pay-to-play going on despite his status as one of Dave's former acolytes; no, Ed was just a moron who also happened to be a thief and inveterate liar. He's ripped off quite a few agencies, particularly Pantheon and RtN. The former was particularly egregious and involved his basically vanishing and failing to pay the agency and bands over five thousand dollars. That was his MO: if a show tanked and he wasn't dealing with the band personally, he'd cut off all contact and refuse to pay what he owed, which he got away with thanks to the fact that he never registered his business and handled all cash transactions by way of wiring the money from his girlfriend's account. He's just another conman in a state infamous for them.

And yes, Antoine doesn't do any of the shit that Ed did and vehemently refuses to do pay-to-play. As I've already said, he's probably the first honest promoter that this state has had in a long fucking time.

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