ATTN: Vegetarians and vegans[views:26742][posts:127]_____________________________________________ [Nov 17,2008 5:27pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""] I never thought the day would come, but I am delving into vegetarianism. Meat either tastes like shit or makes me feel like shit now, so I figure, what the hell? I enjoy a lot of vegetarian and vegan cuisine so I might as well see how far I can take it. So, my issue is that I'm too lazy to do research on what I should be eating to get most of the nutrients, vitamins, etc. that I would usually get from meat. I've heard that any combination of beans and rice takes care of most of this. Any advice, resources, recipes, etc. that you can supply me with would be greatly appreciated. Also, I am definitely not going as far as vegan, because I love dairy way too fucking much, and I think I'd go insane trying to discipline myself to that extreme. |
| __________________________________ [Nov 17,2008 5:37pm - dertoxia ""] i think peanuts and any kind of mixed nut gives you most of the protein you need. WHAT ABOUT TACO BELL AND SPIKES HOT DOGS!?!?!?!?! |
| _____________________________________________ [Nov 17,2008 5:45pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""] Both are covered sir. Taco Bell actually tastes and feels better without the meat. I just enjoyed some. Spike's has veggie dogs! |
| _____________________________________ [Nov 17,2008 5:50pm - xanonymousx ""] i dont get taco bell with their "beef" it makes me sick. |
| _____________________________________________ [Nov 17,2008 5:52pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""] I'm trying to steer clear of Taco Bell all together since there's still a ton of shit in their food. I'd like to keep it in moderation (i.e. maybe 1 or 2 times a month, max), so that's my next battle. The longest I went without Taco Bell was probably 3 or 4 months, then of course I hit the CGCs and quesadillas harder than ever, haha. |
| ____________________________________________ [Nov 17,2008 6:07pm - former vegetarian ""] get some toasted sesame seed oil (critical) and use it to fry some tofu. it helps to have a wok so the tofu can really soak in it. then get some fucking stir fry sauce and a bunch of vegetables and some rice or some shit and make fucking stir fry. throw in as much shit as you can like peanuts and some beans because you're going to need all the protein and what not to stay healthy on a vegetarian diet. |
| ____________________________________________ [Nov 17,2008 6:09pm - former vegetarian ""] go to trader joe's. they've got the goods when you're a vegetarian. shit's cheap too. |
| ____________________________________________ [Nov 17,2008 6:11pm - former vegetarian ""] oh yeah. boca or morning star chicken patties or nuggets or buffalo wings are the shit. |
| _____________________________________________ [Nov 17,2008 6:14pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""] Hell yeah, Trader Joe's is the shit. Thank you sir or madame. |
| ______________________________ [Nov 17,2008 6:15pm - Lamp ""] Boca chicken patties/burgers make a fantastic quick lunch. A minute and a half in the microwave, a piece of bread, maybe some ketchup, and you've got a cornerstone right there. |
| _____________________________________________ [Nov 17,2008 6:17pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""] I've had many Boca and Morning Star products; none of them have disappointed yet. I actually liked the Morning Star burgers more than regular burgers before becoming vegetarian ever entered my mind. |
| ______________________________ [Nov 17,2008 6:22pm - Lamp ""] I know you're not planning on giving up dairy but if you haven't yet, try some Silk both in vanilla and chocolate and Tofutti cream cheese. All products I think are better than their "real" counterparts. |
| _____________________________________________ [Nov 17,2008 6:27pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""] I enjoy chocolate Silk but hate the vanilla. 8th Continent is better for vanilla in my opinion. I will try Tofutti. I can't imagine fake dairy being better than real dairy, but I'm willing to try anything. |
| ______________________________ [Nov 17,2008 6:29pm - Lamp ""] Fake dairy is usually not better than real dairy, but this stuff is amazing. Tofutti also makes ice cream that licks a fat dingleberry. Fake cheese sucks as a whole. |
| _____________________________________________ [Nov 17,2008 6:30pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""] Haha yeah, I've had many kinds of fake cheese and wanted to kill whoever gave it to me. Fuck that shit. I will say though, vegan cheesecake is soooo fucking good. Real cheesecake is way too heavy for me to eat more than 2 bites. |
| _______________________________ [Nov 17,2008 6:38pm - Hoser ""] The 1st time I see you at a PETA rally, or wearing vinyl birkenstocks, I'm going to gun you down in cold blood. Christ, explore anything...try "Being Gay" anything other than this...MEAT IS DELICIOUS!!! I'll give you some fucking venison...anything. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epUIRJiYEWo At LEAST try this 1st. |
| _____________________________ [Nov 17,2008 6:41pm - mOe ""] Tofutti Cuties are the shite ALSO, whenever you can EAT VEGETABLES! Can't stress this enough. If you dont like vegetables, dont be vegetarian. You'll most likely get fat. |
| ______________________________ [Nov 17,2008 6:47pm - Lamp ""] Hoser said:The 1st time I see you at a PETA rally, or wearing vinyl birkenstocks, I'm going to gun you down in cold blood. Christ, explore anything...try "Being Gay" anything other than this...MEAT IS DELICIOUS!!! I'll give you some fucking venison...anything. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epUIRJiYEWo At LEAST try this 1st. Yes, persuade this man from trying to do something new and interesting with his life. |
| _____________________________________ [Nov 17,2008 6:48pm - Dave_Maggot ""] if mark goes veggie, i'm going veggie. . . after the holidays though. |
| _____________________________________________ [Nov 17,2008 6:48pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""] Haha, I used to hate vegetables but lately my tastes have been changing. Hoser, I give you full permission to gun me down if you see me at a PETA rally or wearing Birkenstocks of any pursuasion. Just because I don't want to eat meat anymore doesn't mean I'm going to turn into an ignorant, arrogant piece of shit, haha. |
| ___________________________________________ [Nov 17,2008 6:50pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] LAND ON A CARROT COCK [img] |
| _____________________________________________ [Nov 17,2008 6:52pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""] Hahahaha, I would totally land on a carrot cock. |
| _____________________________ [Nov 17,2008 6:54pm - pam ""] I've been thinking about it too, Mark...for similar reasons. That and I really hate the whole factory farming aspect of meat harvesting and I'm not shooting shit myself soooo More realistically I will probably cut it way down and see how that goes. |
| _____________________________________________ [Nov 17,2008 6:56pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""] Yeah, I'm not a big fan of the factory farm industry. I guess I just started feeling a wee bit guilty about it. Survival of the fittest is one thing, but it's a bit different than that, haha. I am all for people hunting, killing, preparing and eating their own food. |
| ______________________________ [Nov 17,2008 6:57pm - Lamp ""] I tried being vegetarian for a while but the main reason I gave it up was because I was never full. I'm a small guy with a high metabolism. Even now I only weigh 135 or so and I actually have some muscle on my frame for the first time in my life. The lack of satisfaction was killing me. |
| _____________________________________________ [Nov 17,2008 7:05pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""] The last time I tried vegetarianism everything was fine until I realized there is no substitute for steak. But, now I don't give a shit about steak, for the first time in my 25 year existence on this planet full of once delicious meat. |
| _____________________________________ [Nov 17,2008 7:07pm - Dave_Maggot ""] call me gay, but i dont really like steak at all or ever have, i never saw what the big deal about it was. i always hated steak night growing up. |
| _______________________________ [Nov 17,2008 7:09pm - Hoser ""] Lamp said:I tried being vegetarian for a while but the main reason I gave it up was because I was never full. I'm a small guy with a high metabolism. Even now I only weigh 135 or so and I actually have some muscle on my frame for the first time in my life. The lack of satisfaction was killing me. Lamp, you're plenty big enough...jesus. Fatso. |
| _______________________________ [Nov 17,2008 7:11pm - Seth ""] I bet V's never would of existed if we were still hunting our food and eatin all the land could provide, be it meat or veggie and so on... :FLAMING: |
| _____________________________________________ [Nov 17,2008 7:13pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""] I'm sure they'd still exist, because there are a lot of people that just really don't like the taste of meat, or it doesn't "agree" with them. And of course there would still be a lot of people that feel guilty about eating something with a face, haha. |
| ______________________________ [Nov 17,2008 7:16pm - Lamp ""] Dave_Maggot said:call me gay, but i dont really like steak at all or ever have, i never saw what the big deal about it was. i always hated steak night growing up. It's all in the sauce (which is vegan, by the way). Steak itself is too chewy and not very good. |
| _______________________________ [Nov 17,2008 7:27pm - Hoser ""] LIAR! BLASPHEMER! |
| ____________________________________________ [Nov 17,2008 7:28pm - former vegetarian ""] tender loin |
| __________________________________ [Nov 17,2008 7:30pm - why? ""] do what you want. just keep it to yourself. [img] otherwise, your just like the rest. |
| _____________________________________ [Nov 17,2008 7:36pm - Dave_Maggot ""] that looks like my basement |
| ______________________________ [Nov 17,2008 7:36pm - Lamp ""] I understand why you would want to "keep it quiet" about being militant towards other people, but why can't someone discuss what they eat in a civil manner? |
| _____________________________ [Nov 17,2008 7:38pm - ZJD ""] As far as getting things that you would normally get from animal products, protein can be gotten from, as you mentioned, rice and beans, soybeans in particular are almost complete proteins. that means soy anything will do you well (not that you should overdo soy, and plenty of people do). most meat eaters get way more protein than they will ever need. omega 3s are pretty important and usually come from fish oils, but they can be gotten from flax seeds/oils and lots of stuff like soymilk and other fake dairy products are often fortied with stuff including vegetarian sources of Omega 3s. most soymilk is also fortified with as much calcium as cow's milk has. leafy greens like spinach and kale are easy to include in stuff and have lots of nutrients including iron. people get on vegans about B12, but lots of stuff is fortified with it, including nutritional yeast. i know you said you wont likely give up cheese, but nutritional yeast is a deactivated yeast that is sort of nutty and cheesey in flavor and will turn a basic cream sauce into a faux cheese sauce that is pretty sweet. sprinkling it on popcorn or toast is pretty great too. most of the world outside of america eats, if not a nearly vegan and healthy diet, a diet that is pretty balanced and healthy without the meat, so if you are into asain, indian, middle eastern, etc, focusing more on them than fake meat and stuff is a good start. i'm all about this stuff so ask me questions and stuff. also, i found veganoutreach.org pretty helpful when i was learning about stuff. |
| _____________________________________________ [Nov 17,2008 7:40pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""] Yeah, I don't really see what the big deal is about DIET. I'm just interested in seeing what vegetarians eat to stay healthy so I don't fuck it up, haha. |
| _____________________________ [Nov 17,2008 7:46pm - ZJD ""] oh, well i dont to make it sound like i have a regimen or something,just saying that buying the fortified stuff instead and eating more eastern food is a good way to make sure you're okay without thinking about it too much. some vegans take a multivitamin. i dont but im sure it cant hurt. |
| _____________________________________________ [Nov 17,2008 8:06pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""] Thanks Ryan. Luckily most of what you said I have heard many times before, so it's good to get more confirmation. And my last post was in response to the sheep comment, not your post, if that's what you thought, haha. |
| ______________________________________ [Nov 17,2008 8:09pm - the_reverend ""] I have tons of recipes and so does carina. my favorites of hers are 1) shepards pie with fake veggie hamburger 2) sweet potato pie I also love making 1) tofu stir fry with gimme lean sausage, tons of beans, tons of avacados 2) spicy beans, tofu, and rice |
| ______________________________________ [Nov 17,2008 8:11pm - the_reverend ""] gimme lean and make meatball subs lentil soups put a little veggietable broth in something is great. |
| _____________________________ [Nov 17,2008 8:11pm - ZJD ""] oh |
| _____________________________ [Nov 17,2008 8:12pm - pam ""] mmmmm middle eastern food. |
| ______________________________ [Nov 17,2008 8:13pm - Lamp ""] the_reverend said:gimme lean and make meatball subs I used to do this, mix up the ground beef and sausage flavors, it tastes awesome and is significantly less heavy than the real deal. Recommended! |
| _____________________________ [Nov 17,2008 8:14pm - pam ""] the_reverend said:I have tons of recipes and so does carina. my favorites of hers are 1) shepards pie with fake veggie hamburger 2) sweet potato pie I also love making 1) tofu stir fry with gimme lean sausage, tons of beans, tons of avacados 2) spicy beans, tofu, and rice Both #1s sound awesome. |
| ______________________________________ [Nov 17,2008 8:14pm - the_reverend ""] dave and mark fuck together and eat together. |
| _____________________________ [Nov 17,2008 8:15pm - ZJD ""] you also get to claim all sorts of new found superiority |
| _____________________________ [Nov 17,2008 8:19pm - pam ""] I will not be one of those assholes. I just want to be healthier and stop supporting factory farming hormone-injected atrophied animal inc. Everyone else can do what they want. My kids included. |
| _____________________________________________ [Nov 17,2008 8:28pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""] Dave and I also shit together. At the same time. In the same toilet. |