NotCommon Records on permanant hiatus[views:115076][posts:420]___________________________________ [Jul 19,2005 5:43pm - SUBJUGATE ""] joe works his ass off to help get bands show and support the scene say what you want but i have nuthing but respect for what he has done for the metal scene which was pretty stale untill he started doing the moreforce fests and other local shows he has put on he not quitting 100% he only cutting back on it, i am sure he will be back in action again |
| ____________________________________ [Jul 19,2005 5:47pm - anonymous ""] "joe booked alot of shows here: middle east, chopping block, obriens, all asia, etc... and the turnouts were always at least decent because Joe promotes his shows well. " why dont you pull up three shows for me that were booked at all asia and obriens by not common records and shot by RTTP. now show me the ones where there are more than 20 people in the room...not possible. furthermore, show me where a wider audience was reached than the people that post on this board. |
| _______________________________ [Jul 19,2005 5:56pm - hoser ""] I do agree that Josh Martin is a scumbag. That's about the only worth while thing that I read in this entire thread. Josh, time to grow up and clean up your act. Get off the drugs, stop fucking dudes. There are some really nice women out there that you may find mildly amusing one day. But, no one likes a druggie. So clean your act up young man. The drugs have turned you into an overly sensitive, gruff little man. You hate the world and the world hates you too. So what, get over it. This has been a public service announcment brought to you by Hoservision. |
| _________________________________________ [Jul 19,2005 5:57pm - SacreligionNLI ""] furthermore...stop bein a pussy behind that damn 'a' word |
| _____________________________________ [Jul 19,2005 5:57pm - KeithMutiny ""] greggdeadface said:ya knwo what, i have been around the"sceene"for the last 15 yrs or so.and shit like this happens all the fukn time why??? because of all u assholes that cant get on the same fukn page for any one thing!!!!!!!good for u joe stop killing yourself and loosingYOUR $$$ cuz nobody else is doin shit.and the same goes for jess and liz,these people worked hard on trying to bring somthing awsome for all of u unapriactetive little fashion fucks,i hope this scene goes to hell it all ready has been.open your fukn eyes assholes.YOU KILLED IT FOR YOURSELVES!!!!!!!!!. yea, and look for a new release from Throwing Shrapnel on Dying Faith records!!!! hehehe This sucks, but i cant say i blame joes for pullin out, most people, including myself, would have stopped a while ago. Every time i thought a show did well, joe told me he lost money, itss too bad, but i see his view, and agree with him. |
| ____________________________________ [Jul 19,2005 6:23pm - BornSoVile ""] Well...I first met Joe 4 years ago in line at Metal Fest, passing out flyers for More Force Fest. CONSTANTLY from the time he STARTED Not Common, he was not only a driving force but many times THE driving force for helping local bands. I've played more shows booked by Joe than I can remember. I've been to several shows at All Asia, O'Briens, Choppin Block, and Middle East that have been incredible and nonetheless memorable. Joe, dudebuddyguy, this sucks! Yes, we've had our arguements in the past and yes I sometimes didn't agree fully with some of his logic (I doubt anyone can change that) but it still doesn't change the fact that he works harder than any other promoter I know in Boston. As for Not Common being a shitty label, whatever, he had alot of balls to shift from punk to metal. And all you fucking crybaby's complaining about his negativity, GET THE FUCK OUT OF METAL, this is kill your mother kill your father music, keep yer fucking emo shit outta of my life, no one here is interested in hearing you bitch about "one time, joe zinged me" I've been zinged numerous times by the fucker, we've battled in front of o'briens and the choppin'block several times til blood was shed, being soft isn't metal. Is the scene over? No, of course not, it just doesn't die like that...unless you let it. I know that sucks that Joe, Liz, Jess, and Anne all stopped booking shows within a month, but then again I've always wanted to see more bands booking shit. Who knows what will happen. |
| _________________________________________ [Jul 19,2005 6:41pm - sinofangels-ray ""] joe your a good guy and you have booked some good shows introduced Sin of Angels to boston as far as this scene talk goes weather you have been around for 20 years like some of us old folk or your just starting to get into the scene it's what you make of it. I'm hearing all this talk of "i'll start booking but Where' just do it. in your back yard your grandmas kicthen your local hall because if ya can't draw there no clubs are gonna let ya book a show or no promoters will touch you. you need to prove your worth kiddies and I think Joe, Liz jess all have by having balls enough to doit but maybee just maybee there sick of seeing the same 20 or so people at shows shit they can do that by just haveing parties at there houses and playing cd's of the bands they booked not to mentiion duded like the Rev who come out and shoot and review all these shows for nothing except enjoyment and to get it to the masses so lets stop WHINING and have some show prove our worth get new faces and have a blast shit lets staert having show at rehersal spaces again. some of the best shows I've seen when I was a kid was at rehersal spaces .... |
| ____________________________________________________ [Jul 19,2005 6:42pm - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""] anonymous said:why dont you pull up three shows for me that were booked at all asia and obriens by not common records and shot by RTTP. now show me the ones where there are more than 20 people in the room...not possible. Good job captain huge-balls. You've obviously never been to any of the many good shows with high attendance that you're saying never existed. This obviously makes your opinion valid and highly respected. Your words are obviously crucial to the scene's vitality. Keep supporting local shows. You're doing a great job. |
| ______________________________________ [Jul 19,2005 7:21pm - Anthony nli ""] anonymous said:"joe booked alot of shows here: middle east, chopping block, obriens, all asia, etc... and the turnouts were always at least decent because Joe promotes his shows well. " why dont you pull up three shows for me that were booked at all asia and obriens by not common records and shot by RTTP. now show me the ones where there are more than 20 people in the room...not possible. furthermore, show me where a wider audience was reached than the people that post on this board. 1. please stop posting anonymously, its really irritating 2. to your first question: you can do all that stuff yourself, im not your servant. Were you at any such shows? I was at a bunch of 'em, playing or watching, and I can tell you that Rev's pics (awesome as they are) are not a great indicator of turnout. For smaller shows, Rev takes pics pretty much of the bands only, not the crowd. 3. i can give you a real easy answer to the last one: doom and grind fest, but im sure there are other answers that would work too. |
| ________________________________________ [Jul 19,2005 7:36pm - ATNFAC_Vokillz ""] WHAT THE FUCK!? Whats next, is Aaron going to shutdown RTTP?! Im going to quit music and become a lawyer or something. |
| _________________________________ [Jul 19,2005 7:44pm - skullet ""] LISTEN UP ALL YOU STUPID FUCKS WHO HAVE ANYTHING BAD TO SAY ABOUT JOE OR HIS LABEL. JOE, ALONG WITH SHATTERED LIZ, ANNE ARMAGEDDON, JESS AND OTHERS HAVE PRETTY MUCH SINGLEHANDEDLY BROUGHT BACK THE METAL SCENE AROUND HERE. NOW THAT ANNE IS GONE, JESS GONE (I THINK) JOE NOT REALLY DOING AS MUCH, AND NO MORE BOSTONS DEAD, WHO WILL PICK UP THE TORCH? ID LIKE TO SEE YOU DO AS MUCH AS THEY HAVE FOR THE SCENE, OR JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP. THOUGHT SO. JOE, YOU RULE. SORRY YOU TOOK A BATH WITH THIS WHOLE FEST THING, BUT PLEASE DO NOT STOP BOOKING SHOWS. THE SCENE NEEDS YOU, NO MATTER WHAT THESE FUCKS SAY. YOU GAVE US A CHANCE TO DO THE GRIEF REUNION, AND FOR ALL THE PEOPLE WHO DIDNT GET TO SEE US IN THE PAST, TO HAVE THE CHANCE TO NOW. ID LIKE TO SEE ANY OF YOU FUCKS DO THE SAME AS HE AND THE OTHERS HAVE DONE THESE LAST FEW YEARS. |
| _____________________________________________ [Jul 19,2005 7:46pm - DrinkHardThrashHard ""] If you notice, a lot of us had nothing but good things to say about the label... I realize you are not speaking directly to us, but with the shouting it sure seems that way... |
| __________________________________ [Jul 19,2005 7:49pm - brian_dc ""] ATNFAC_Vokillz said:WHAT THE FUCK!? Whats next, is Aaron going to shutdown RTTP?! Im going to quit music and become a lawyer or something. Craig, you could never be a lawyer. Let's be honest. I can't believe what ignorant bastards people are being. Just because he didn't do anything for you (he didn't do anything for me), doesn't mean that Joe didn't do a lot for at least a chunk of the scene. He obviously meant something to a lot of people here, so who gives a fuck about your opinion if you thought that he sucked...that's not what this thread is about. and those kinds of threads are a waste of time. |
| __________________________________ [Jul 19,2005 7:50pm - brian_dc ""] not that everyone is being negative about it... |
| ____________________________________ [Jul 19,2005 7:59pm - Mule_Stall ""] Um, don't know much about the label, but a "hiatus" is by definition not typically "permanent." |
| ____________________________________ [Jul 19,2005 8:01pm - BornSoVile ""] yeah, that's why it's a permanent hiatus. |
| __________________________________ [Jul 19,2005 8:02pm - brian_dc ""] Mule_Stall said:Um, don't know much about the label, but a "hiatus" is by definition not typically "permanent." how appropriate...it's a notcommon use of a word. I hate myself for that |
| _____________________________________ [Jul 19,2005 8:06pm - RustedAngel ""] [img] |
| ____________________________________ [Jul 19,2005 8:06pm - handinjury ""] sinofangels-ray said:joe your a good guy and you have booked some good shows introduced Sin of Angels to boston as far as this scene talk goes weather you have been around for 20 years like some of us old folk or your just starting to get into the scene it's what you make of it. I'm hearing all this talk of "i'll start booking but Where' just do it. in your back yard your grandmas kicthen your local hall because if ya can't draw there no clubs are gonna let ya book a show or no promoters will touch you. you need to prove your worth kiddies and I think Joe, Liz jess all have by having balls enough to doit but maybee just maybee there sick of seeing the same 20 or so people at shows shit they can do that by just haveing parties at there houses and playing cd's of the bands they booked not to mentiion duded like the Rev who come out and shoot and review all these shows for nothing except enjoyment and to get it to the masses so lets stop WHINING and have some show prove our worth get new faces and have a blast shit lets staert having show at rehersal spaces again. some of the best shows I've seen when I was a kid was at rehersal spaces .... Ray= 100% correct. The only good thing that could come out of this whole lack of promoters is that there will be less shows. So maybe all the metalheads will go to one of the 1-3 metal shows a month (as opposed to the 10+ shows) And if the attendance is pretty good, that booker will not have to pay out of pocket, and in turn they will book more shows. It's a pretty simple concept, when there are like 6 metal shows all on the same night (april 2nd for example) what do you expect for turnout? this is metal not cover bands. Joe gave Anoxia their first boston gig. Maybe people will actually come to RI shows now, and maybe I'll book something again. |
| ________________________________________________ [Jul 19,2005 8:11pm - whiskey_weed_and_women ""] AUTOPSY_666 said:I am not saying that Joe was everything, but with Liz, Jess, Joe and Anne all quitting around the same time, that is a big deal. I don't blame them, people fucking suck, they are selfish and really don't know how good it is until it's all gone. you sir, speak wisdom.....i will gladly order your news letter. :stupidflanders: |
| ________________________________________________ [Jul 19,2005 8:13pm - whiskey_weed_and_women ""] iFart said:Boston's Dead Series Heavy Metal Rotation Out of that list Jess & Liz are the only promoters in the area that really mattered. They both had positive attitudes and were not close minded about everything. Shitty that they had to call it quits. Everything will be fine, if not better, you'll see. Quote me on that. quoting the invisible man, is like praying to god for money. |
| ____________________________________ [Jul 19,2005 8:26pm - Mule_Stall ""] BornSoVile said:yeah, that's why it's a permanent hiatus. Right. And by that logic, the phrase "temporarily dead" would make complete rational sense. (Outside of Romero films, of course.) Or "eternally not eternal." If you know it's not going to actually be a "hiatus" then just call it the end. But I quibble. Sorry to hear about your not-temporary temporary loss, dude. |
| ____________________________________________________ [Jul 19,2005 8:33pm - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""] The real reason behind the record label going down is because Joe is going to prison for throwing a burrito at the nail salon next to O'Brien's. |
| ________________________________________________ [Jul 19,2005 8:42pm - whiskey_weed_and_women ""] menstrual_sweatpants_disco said:The real reason behind the record label going down is because Joe is going to prison for throwing a burrito at the nail salon next to O'Brien's. sweet, he took the rap ! |
| __________________________________________ [Jul 19,2005 8:48pm - BestialOnslaught ""] This is really too bad, I hope NOT COMMON remains around in some form... I've been to a lot of NC shows that were fun as hell, and I think the releases are solid enough to keep moving, hopefully to the point of the label coming back with more force. It's a shame about the festival, as I too expected a better turnout, and a lot of people missed out on some amazing sets... I think some of the criticisms in this thread ring true, not against Joe, but in general of the insular nature of this "scene" and the need to reach out to more people in order to get more people out to shows. I, for one, would get into more hall/basement shows, as long as the lineups are cool, which is way too rarely the case. It'd be good for the "bar bands" to get in front of the all ages crowds more (and the DIY/hall type bands certainly could benefit from playing in front of bar crowds as well). Overall, I'm optimistic... There have been a handful of sell out shows at O'Brien's lately, I thought GRIEF got a great reception at the fest, there are a lot of good bands around here, there are new people willing to step forward and book shows... All signs point to lots of activity, no matter who's booking it. |
| ____________________________________ [Jul 19,2005 8:49pm - anonymous ""] yeah dude, the rev's pics dont show the crowd at all...its like a magic camera that doesnt record anyone in the audience. |
| __________________________________________ [Jul 19,2005 8:50pm - BestialOnslaught ""] And I'm optimistic for NOT COMMON too, I imagine stuff like CONIFER, KA, ABHORRED and RK will continue to move... And I know there's a mighty good show lined up for September... |
| _________________________________ [Jul 19,2005 8:58pm - skullet ""] DrinkHardThrashHard said:If you notice, a lot of us had nothing but good things to say about the label... I realize you are not speaking directly to us, but with the shouting it sure seems that way... I was only yelling at the couple of dicks who were saying negative shit. I know that most of the massholes realize what an asset Joe is to the scene. |
| ____________________________________ [Jul 19,2005 9:02pm - anonymous ""] menstrual_sweatpants_disco said:Good job captain huge-balls. You've obviously never been to any of the many good shows with high attendance that you're saying never existed. This obviously makes your opinion valid and highly respected. Your words are obviously crucial to the scene's vitality. Keep supporting local shows. You're doing a great job. your all a bunch of losers. Joe never has even booked a national act at any of these places and you think he's some sort of god for the scene. your all pathetic. Maybe now theres finally a chance for good local metal acts to be booked. |
| ________________________________________________ [Jul 19,2005 9:06pm - whiskey_weed_and_women ""] anonymous said:your all a bunch of losers. Joe never has even booked a national act at any of these places and you think he's some sort of god for the scene. your all pathetic. Maybe now theres finally a chance for good local metal acts to be booked. ok after that statement you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. |
| __________________________________________ [Jul 19,2005 9:06pm - BestialOnslaught ""] ASVA, CEPHALIC CARNAGE, LAIR OF THE MINOTAUR, PHOBIA, CODC, THE HIDDEN HAND... |
| ________________________________________________ [Jul 19,2005 9:07pm - whiskey_weed_and_women ""] GRIEF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| _______________________________________ [Jul 19,2005 9:08pm - Joe/NotCommon ""] Before I go and say what my plans are I want to say that, since I started notcommon in 2000 (my first show a few months later in 2001) I have seen a million one show only promoters, a million scene sites, a million record labels and a million bands come and go. If I stopped booking shows, then whoever tried to "carry the torch" or whatever, would most likely stop after 1 or 2 poorly attended shows. I am good at promoting shows, and if you disagree you are stupid and wrong. I don't know how NotCommon was never a real record label, we had distribution in stores, online, other record labels and press in zines, radio and TV. What would have made us a real record label? Like Josh Martin said, but none of you even read because you are ignorant, none of the bands were tied into a contract, but all wanted to keep working with me. I know some of the bands had been approached by other labels, including Century Media in one case, but stuck with me. I am not impressed with Rusted Angel's weak attempt at bashing me or my label. NotCommon is something I do for myself, always was. I book shows I want to see, I release albums I want to hear. I want the shows to have good attendance, so I can do more at the club, or get the band back. I have high hopes for the "scene" in Boston and I think I do alot to help it along. If you don't think so, then good. You are the element I don't want to work with. There are plenty of alternatives for the close minded people who think I am close minded for not booking shows to be popular. This isn't a fucking democracy, it's me. I won't book some band I don't like because a bunch of dickheads who never support other shows think I should. Use your brain. My shows might have slowed down this summer, but that is because there have been so many other shows and colleges being out. Impaled @ the middle east had well over 100 people, the fest had 200 each day, Cephalic Carnage had 160+, Bongzilla had 80+, Disengaged cd release @ the middle east sold out, the majority of choppin block shows had 50 people, and plenty of my other shows have done well. Sabbat will sell out in September, as will Total Fucking Destruction in October. I know that if I stopped booking shows that things would continue without me, but it wouldn't be the same (good or bad is a matter of opinion). I care about what happens, obviously I don't see eye to eye with alot of you people, but I don't see any of you doing shit so fuck off. July 31st @ DeeDees Lounge 297 Newport Ave NOOSEBOMB THENIGHTMARECONTINUES... FLAKK (PA) IT WILL END IN PURE HORROR MILITIANARY 7pm 21+ $5 My next show is awesome, compare it to my last show (leukorrhea and demized @ deedees) and then tell me how close minded I am about my metal shows. I exclude metalcore bands, obviously I am bringing the scene down with that attitude. I am happy that those of you who hate me do, and am happy to be friends with the rest of you guys/girls. |
| _______________________________________ [Jul 19,2005 9:09pm - Joe/NotCommon ""] Ichabod said:Sorry to hear it Joe....never did get to book the Ichabod/Ocean/Conifer/Abhorred armageddon, eh? Guess www.rootsuckerrecords.com will just have to put out the next Abhorred record.... I would book that show. Ichabod rules. |
| ________________________________ [Jul 19,2005 9:14pm - reuben ""] Joe, look at all the people you pissed off, you must have been doing something right. |
| ________________________________________________________ [Jul 19,2005 9:18pm - ryan from HBBSI never logs in ""] from reading this theres a whole lot of people that can go to the bright sunshiny land of fuckoffville. do what you gotta do joe |
| ________________________________________ [Jul 19,2005 9:26pm - xsuffocationx ""] You're acting like you're a fucking prophet. You booked tons of shitty shows, and ran a shitty label that no one outside of RTTP knows of. Honestly, who is going to give a shit about this other than the 10 kids on this board who jock you? The answer is no one pedro, no one |
| ________________________________________________________ [Jul 19,2005 9:37pm - ryan from HBBSI never logs in ""] and what do you do for metal around you? the answer is nothing pedro, nothing |
| ______________________________________ [Jul 19,2005 9:39pm - the_reverend ""] this thread makes my head heard... I'm going to link a bunch of pictures now. [img] [img] [img] [img] [img] [img] [img] [img] [img] [img] [img] [img] [img] [img] [img] [img] [img] [img] [img] [img] |
| ________________________________________________ [Jul 19,2005 9:41pm - whiskey_weed_and_women ""] xsuffocationx said:You're acting like you're a fucking prophet. You booked tons of shitty shows, and ran a shitty label that no one outside of RTTP knows of. Honestly, who is going to give a shit about this other than the 10 kids on this board who jock you? The answer is no one pedro, no one haha i love the idea of putting X's in front of Suffocations name esp knowing how much blow the singer does. but i dont think Joe even remotely thinks of himself as a prophet he's just telling you facts. here's one seeing the Hidden Hand, Leng T'Che, Bongzilla, Phobia, Grief, and Kill the Client were all cause of that man. cause of shows he booked so yeah i'll give him props. without those shows it's several bored nights thinking i wish someone would book bands i liked around here. cause besides Anne, who is gone not too many others were bringing in big acts that i enjoyed seeing. |
| ________________________________________ [Jul 19,2005 9:43pm - Notorious_DUG ""] I hope I've never been or ever will be one of these anonymous bloody vag-corks that have no fucking clue what they are talking about but post on message boards anyways so they can jack-off while re-reading their tough and clever posts all day long and pat themselves on the back for being so kvlt and troo. |
| ____________________________________ [Jul 19,2005 9:45pm - paganmegan ""] anonymous said:menstrual_sweatpants_disco said:Good job captain huge-balls. You've obviously never been to any of the many good shows with high attendance that you're saying never existed. This obviously makes your opinion valid and highly respected. Your words are obviously crucial to the scene's vitality. Keep supporting local shows. You're doing a great job. your all a bunch of losers. Joe never has even booked a national act at any of these places and you think he's some sort of god for the scene. your all pathetic. Maybe now theres finally a chance for good local metal acts to be booked. Who the hell are you and what are you talking about chode hair??:bartmoon: |
| ____________________________________________________ [Jul 19,2005 9:52pm - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""] ryan from HBBSI never logs in said:and what do you do for metal around you? the answer is nothing pedro, nothing haha checkmate |
| ____________________________________________________ [Jul 19,2005 9:55pm - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""] ________________________ NO METALCORE FAGGARIOS ALLOWED TO POST BEYOND THIS POINT ________________________ there. problem solved |
| _____________________________________ [Jul 19,2005 10:10pm - anonymous ""] that Leng T'Che was packed wall to wall |
| __________________________________________ [Jul 19,2005 11:00pm - sinofangels-ray ""] you mean Joe isn't a prophet????? |
| ____________________________________ [Jul 19,2005 11:13pm - eddienli ""] sinofangels-ray said:you mean Joe isn't a prophet????? prophet? i thought he was the son of god!!! |
| ____________________________________ [Jul 19,2005 11:17pm - Dissector ""] This is a total bummer. Joe was one of the few people around here that like us and probably the only show promoter that does. I understand 100% why he wants to, or has to, slow down. Joe always put us no great shows and exposed us to new people. With taht said I think over time more people will come and put on a couple of shows here and there. We'll see how long they last. |
| _________________________________________ [Jul 19,2005 11:27pm - xsuffocationx ""] again, like I said in my previous post. There are about 10 RTTP kids who jock Joe Not Common, and not surprisingly you have all jumped to his defense, which makes him even more pathetic. Who are you guys to back him up?? You're even bigger nobodies. Why would I take your word on anything or even take you seriously? Secondly, you saying "what have you done for metal?" you assuming Joe Not Common has accomplished something. News flash, shitty shows, shitty label, and having ten kids from a message board jock you does not equate any form of success. and to the kid who said: "Overall, I'm optimistic..." hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha |
| __________________________________________ [Jul 19,2005 11:34pm - sinofangels-ray ""] ^is that the singer from wreched asylem or something man what a mean dOOd |