The city of Denver has just legalized marijuana[views:15927][posts:62]_________________________________________ [Nov 2,2005 2:13am - davefromthegrave ""] http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/4570.html no shit. |
| __________________________________ [Nov 2,2005 2:27am - Todd NLI ""] I see a MASSIVE population growth in their near future |
| ___________________________________ [Nov 2,2005 2:39am - BornSoVile ""] CEPHALIC CARNAGE TERRITORY!! |
| ___________________________________ [Nov 2,2005 2:40am - BornSoVile ""] i'm gonna need another shot of bourbon to fall asleep now, that's some exciting news there! |
| ________________________________________ [Nov 2,2005 2:55am - attendmyrequiem ""] holy shit! |
| _____________________________ [Nov 2,2005 2:56am - Lamp ""] "The successful I-100 campaign focused on the vast number of health, safety and social problems associated with alcohol use, promoting marijuana use to avoid the prevalence of such problems." !?!? Why not just avoid the problems of both? |
| _________________________________ [Nov 2,2005 8:05am - SuperFly ""] GRIEF is going to do a 2 month tour of Denver!!! |
| __________________________________ [Nov 2,2005 8:11am - Ionsphere ""] im all about this dude... AND STAR WARS IS NEW EXHIBIT AT THE SCIENCE MUSEUM!! just to be random |
| ________________________________________________ [Nov 2,2005 9:17am - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] is this for real? this is awesome news if so. Marijuana being illegal is such bullshit |
| ____________________________________ [Nov 2,2005 9:21am - KeithMutiny ""] thats because denver needed a reason to not suck, so this was thier best idea. |
| ________________________________________________ [Nov 2,2005 9:23am - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] I dunnow, it does kinda eat eggs but Planes Mistaken For Stars and Mustangs & Madras are pretty cool.... and they have like 2 nice venues I can remember. |
| _________________________________________ [Nov 2,2005 9:25am - davefromthegrave ""] as it turns out, state law makes this innefective. oh well. |
| ________________________________________________ [Nov 2,2005 9:26am - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] http://www.myspace.com/mustangsandmadras kinda like Black Flag + Saves The Day + some other stuff...very post-hardcore but the singer Nick is like Rollins live, and he plays this big fucking sax for solos. |
| _____________________________________________________________________ [Nov 2,2005 10:30am - ryanfromhbbsi still isnt fucking logged in ""] so basically you can have and smoke it, but you your dealer is in the wrong for selling it to you and you're in the wrong for growing it. "By approving the I-100, the use of marijuana in public, the use of marijuana by people under 21, driving under the influence of marijuana, and the cultivation and distribution of marijuana would all remain illegal, much like with alcohol. " |
| _______________________________ [Nov 2,2005 10:33am - Yeti ""] just wait until the US government swoops in and wipes this one out. this wont last. |
| _________________________________________ [Nov 2,2005 11:06am - dreadedsilence ""] so you can possess it, but you can't buy it, sell it, grow it, etc.? maybe this wasn't thought through well enough. i don't know the exact specifics of the ordinance but it seems like that is what it says. what the feds or the state should do is take a cue from this and start making some regulations a little more like the alcohol laws. they probably won't though. what this is, though, is a baby step foward. maybe this will spark something |
| __________________________________________ [Nov 2,2005 11:09am - davefromthegrave ""] actually no, under state law, which overthrows city law, you can't possess it either. |
| _________________________________________ [Nov 2,2005 12:25pm - dreadedsilence ""] davefromthegrave said:actually no, under state law, which overthrows city law, you can't possess it either. right. it's still illegal under state and federal laws. what this was was just the city's attempt to show the public's view on the issue in hopes that the state and/or the feds take it into consideration. even if the state changes the laws, federal law still prohibits it and the state law will be ineffective. |
| _____________________________ [Nov 2,2005 1:35pm - cav ""] FUCKIN SWEET!!!! |
| ___________________________________ [Nov 2,2005 1:40pm - anonymous ""] i know right? |
| ______________________________________________ [Nov 2,2005 1:51pm - slowlypeelingtheflesh ""] thats cool, I do not smoke pot..but it should be legalized |
| _________________________________________ [Nov 2,2005 2:43pm - davefromthegrave ""] dreadedsilence said:davefromthegrave said:actually no, under state law, which overthrows city law, you can't possess it either. right. it's still illegal under state and federal laws. what this was was just the city's attempt to show the public's view on the issue in hopes that the state and/or the feds take it into consideration. even if the state changes the laws, federal law still prohibits it and the state law will be ineffective. correct. I guess people are gonna have to stop smoking now. :happymac::tightiewhities: |
| _________________________________________ [Nov 2,2005 2:44pm - davefromthegrave ""] :happymac::middlefinger: :tightiewhities: it looks like this wierd squareface dude is wearing undies and giving you the finger |
| ____________________________________________ [Nov 2,2005 2:53pm - this makes me sick ""] this makes me sick...... how could anyone want to feel like they arent here fuck anyone that smokes that shit period. |
| _________________________________________ [Nov 2,2005 2:55pm - davefromthegrave ""] this makes me sick said:this makes me sick...... how could anyone want to feel like they arent here fuck anyone that smokes that shit period. :krusty: I don't smoke. can we still fuck? |
| ____________________________________________ [Nov 2,2005 3:08pm - this makes me sick ""] dude i dont swing that way |
| _________________________________________ [Nov 2,2005 3:17pm - largefreakatzero ""] this makes me sick said:this makes me sick...... how could anyone want to feel like they arent here fuck anyone that smokes that shit period. What do you care about what anyone else does? Apparently you do not have enough to do. Get a hobby. |
| _______________________________ [Nov 2,2005 3:25pm - Ryan_M ""] this makes me sick said:this makes me sick...... how could anyone want to feel like they arent here fuck anyone that smokes that shit period. you're sickened because people want to chill out and relax in the privacy of their own homes? screw you man, you know what's really sickening? some poor kid who gets the shit beaten out of him every day by his drunken assed father for no reason. that's sickening. marijuana never hurt anyone, if anything it makes people feel better for a little while. legalize it, there's nothing to lose. |
| ______________________________________ [Nov 2,2005 4:11pm - SickSickSicks ""] has anyone made the joke yet that this gives entirely new meaning to the "Devner Nuggets"??? |
| ___________________________________ [Nov 2,2005 4:50pm - anonymous ""] or that denver really is the "mile high city" now.... pot sucks |
| _____________________________________ [Nov 2,2005 7:28pm - Patnomalous ""] anonymous said:or that denver really is the "mile high city" now.... pot sucks Blasphemy!!!!:whipper: |
| ___________________________________ [Nov 2,2005 7:42pm - BornSoVile ""] wine is more damaging than pot. regardless this will be a topic in my drug course tomorrow... |
| ___________________________________ [Nov 2,2005 8:11pm - anonymous ""] what good does it really do....... i know you maybe chilled out but then you either get paranoid or do some really stupid stuff even if your just in your home you can get hurt by cutting yourself with a knife or even falling down.. i do not believe that this is a good idea but do what you want imnot going to lecture on this subject anymore |
| ___________________________________ [Nov 2,2005 8:12pm - anonymous ""] its america |
| ______________________________ [Nov 2,2005 8:22pm - Yeti ""] you know, i've been smoking religiously for a long fucking time. getting as baked as possible on a nightly basis, and have yet to do "really stupid stuff" or become paranoid or anything like that. none of my friends do either. we still get up for work, go to class, bills are paid, hell my brother has a 3.9 GPA in college, but he is an ultra pothead. its too bad that some stereotypical stoner had to ruin the image by doing something stupid. i have no problems driving, no problems walking, talking or anything. its a great way to relax after a long day, a good way to whet your appetite, a good way to scrutinize music. all my life i have been fed bullshit about all this bad shit that happens due to weed, and i have yet to encounter anything bad. people need to wake the fuck up and bake the fuck up. |
| ______________________________ [Nov 2,2005 8:54pm - sever ""] good news. |
| ___________________________________ [Nov 2,2005 9:35pm - BornSoVile ""] don't knock it til you try it! stop whining! worry about yourself! I have no problem with sXe folk, but don't force your lifestyle on me, I sure as fuck don't. |
| ___________________________________ [Nov 2,2005 9:39pm - kriswithak ""] i am moving to denver that is the place for me |
| ___________________________________ [Nov 2,2005 9:45pm - anonymous ""] kriswithak's got the idea lock all of the stoners in denver then the world will be a better place |
| _____________________________________________ [Nov 2,2005 9:49pm - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] anonymous said:what good does it really do....... i know you maybe chilled out but then you either get paranoid or do some really stupid stuff even if your just in your home you can get hurt by cutting yourself with a knife or even falling down.. i do not believe that this is a good idea but do what you want imnot going to lecture on this subject anymore Sober people fall down and accidentally cut themselves all the time. But if it's a real concern to you I'll make sure that the next time I have friends over who plan on smoking I will krazy glue their asses to my couch and throw away every sharp object before they shoe up. |
| ___________________________________ [Nov 2,2005 9:54pm - anonymous ""] anonymous said:kriswithak's got the idea lock all of the stoners in denver then the world will be a better place uh, first of all, if you were paying attention at all to earlier posts, you'd know that it is technically NOT legal in denver due to state laws. it basically makes possession of small amounts the lowest priority of enforcement and also create interest in what the public has to say. but denver is not the first city to do it. if you read the article, various cities like Seattle and Oakland have already made possession the lowest enforcement priority. |
| ________________________________ [Nov 2,2005 11:34pm - retzam ""] I'm pretty sure that state law overrides federal law in the case of marijuana legalization (as it does for many laws, as written in the constitution). In theory, if Colorado for example should as a state legalize marijuana, it would be legal except if a federal agent caught you, rather than a state or city cop. I'm not 100% sure about this by any means, but it's a thought. |
| __________________________________________ [Nov 2,2005 11:55pm - xxxproctologist ""] its been legal in california for some time now.... |
| ____________________________________ [Nov 3,2005 10:28am - anonymous ""] 99% of the pot smokers I've known are lazy, don't listen, and don't give a shit about anything. Totally unproductive. And, yes, I have also seen some pretty violent pot smokers in my life. That arguement is the stupidest one I've ever heard. I've known some pretty brilliant people with a ton of potential that basically got addicted to pot and it ruined their lives. They quit school, got low-paying part-time jobs and basically lived off of mac-and-cheese, beer, and weed. Sad shit. I do, however, see the argument made for medicinal use. I could probably get behind something like that. If a person is dying and in a lot of pain, and weed would help them feel better in those last stages of their lives I could see supporting something of that nature. But to make it legal for everyone? No way. Stupid idea. It's beetter to have it kept out of sight. Do I want my daughter asking me what those funny little cigarettes are while we're walking down the street? Hell no. The decline of Western civilization, indeed. |
| _____________________________________ [Nov 3,2005 10:35am - RustedAngel ""] all I gotta say, if my drummer stopped smoking/pot for the last 2 years he'd probably have a new drumset by now. He's just now getting a new pedal... |
| ________________________________________________ [Nov 3,2005 10:39am - whiskey_weed_and_women ""] anonymous said:99% of the pot smokers I've known are lazy, don't listen, and don't give a shit about anything. Totally unproductive. And, yes, I have also seen some pretty violent pot smokers in my life. That arguement is the stupidest one I've ever heard. I've known some pretty brilliant people with a ton of potential that basically got addicted to pot and it ruined their lives. They quit school, got low-paying part-time jobs and basically lived off of mac-and-cheese, beer, and weed. Sad shit. I do, however, see the argument made for medicinal use. I could probably get behind something like that. If a person is dying and in a lot of pain, and weed would help them feel better in those last stages of their lives I could see supporting something of that nature. But to make it legal for everyone? No way. Stupid idea. It's beetter to have it kept out of sight. Do I want my daughter asking me what those funny little cigarettes are while we're walking down the street? Hell no. The decline of Western civilization, indeed. breeder ! |
| ____________________________________ [Nov 3,2005 10:43am - lincolnius ""] Today Denver....tomorrow THE WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Good for Denver. I think it's a great idea....you can use pot for way more things than "getting lazy" Oh and people are lazy to begin with...it's not the pot thats making them lazy. |
| _____________________________________ [Nov 3,2005 10:52am - Christraper ""] yea no shit. its not like people who dont smoke arent sitting on their asses watchin tv like the rest of us. i wonder what anonymous does for a living? |
| ____________________________________ [Nov 3,2005 10:54am - lincolnius ""] Maybe they're an anti-drug activist. |
| ____________________________________ [Nov 3,2005 10:55am - lincolnius ""] Either way I have this to say.....if people are looking at pot as being the enemy this country faces they're looking the wrong direction. |
| _____________________________________ [Nov 3,2005 10:58am - Christraper ""] ^^^^^ WAY better things to worry about. |
| ____________________________________ [Nov 3,2005 11:00am - lincolnius ""] Way LARGER things to worry about. |
| ____________________________________ [Nov 3,2005 11:28am - anonymous ""] What is this world coming to? Whats next? The legalization of crack and heroin |
| _____________________________________ [Nov 3,2005 11:38am - Christraper ""] pot isnt crack or heroin retard |
| _______________________________ [Nov 3,2005 12:54pm - Yeti ""] yeah man to lump weed in the same category as crack and heroin is retarded. they are eons apart. i know plenty of lazy worthless people who arent and have never been potheads. i also know many people whos lives were practically saved by weed. people who were worked up all the time, stressed out, and then they smoked pot. they were able to relax and look at things in a different light. sure there are lazy ass stoners out there, but that is hardly an argument. |
| _______________________________ [Nov 3,2005 8:09pm - retzam ""] anonymous said:99% of the pot smokers I've known are lazy, don't listen, and don't give a shit about anything. Totally unproductive. And, yes, I have also seen some pretty violent pot smokers in my life. That arguement is the stupidest one I've ever heard. I've known some pretty brilliant people with a ton of potential that basically got addicted to pot and it ruined their lives. They quit school, got low-paying part-time jobs and basically lived off of mac-and-cheese, beer, and weed. Sad shit. I have never met a violent pot-smoker. I've never met anyone who had a ton of potential before getting into pot and then became a complete laze and "ruined their lives". I've been smoking pot for a little over two years. I'm in high school right now, getting Bs and As with the occasional C. Three of my classes are honors classes, and out of the other three, one of them isn't available in honors, so I'm taking 3 out of 5 above average classes. I listen very well, better than I speak lots of times. I have a part time job at Barnes and Noble, I write music (pretty good music in my opinion) in more than one genre, I play guitar quite proficiently, piano/keys pretty good, trumpet OK, and lately I've been dabbling in drums, which considering how infrequently I sit down at them, I guess I'm good. Also, I watch very little TV and play very little video games except when hanging out with friends sometimes, and instead in my alone down time prefer to either read or smoke and listen to music, maybe while doing some homework (I do homework just as good, if not better when stoned, although I do work slower). Some days I am pretty lazy, but not nearly as lazy as the average non-pot smoking highschooler. I'm not making any of the above up. I believe that people like the ones you described exist, but you have to understand that most people, like myself, undergo no change when smoking weed, and all of the burnouts I know (I consider myself one too, since I'm almost always high or burnt out) that get bad grades or have shitty aspects to their personality did/were so before they started smoking. And also (and believe me, in NO way am I trying to tell you how to raise your daughter or anything man, that's all you, I would never tread on that ground), I don't think I really see your point about explaining to your daughter what the funny cigarettes people are walking around smoking are. What would you say if she asked about normal cigarettes? "Oh, well, people smoke them just because they are addicted to them, and their body craves it. They don't taste good, they have no positive effects, and they have hundreds of horrible chemicles in them that lead to lung cancer and other fatal diseases." I think that is far more terrifying than a plant with no additives that makes you laugh and feel happy, and makes food taste amazing and music sound different in a spectactular way, and unites people with feelings of peace and love (haha yeah I know, the 60s are over). Plus, it is not even close to being as harmful as cigarettes. Even if you smoke 20 joints a day, although you'll be getting more tar than 20 cigs a day, you will not be getting any deadly additives, and although there ARE carcinogens in weed, the substances that activate these carcinogens in cigarettes are not present in weed, so as long as your not a cigarette smoker too, than you will almost certainly not get cancer from marijuana. And this is all not even mentioning the multitudes of benefits of harvesting hemp, that is, the vast amount of things that it can be used for. That said, I believe that the only good point made against weed so far in this thread is RustedAngels comment earlier about money. It is a very very valid point. I do end up spending lots of my part-time pay on weed. Besides that I can't really think of any solid anti-marijuana argument, not to say there is no reason to not want to smoke, because there could be many reasons that a person would make the personal desision to not smoke themselves. |
| ___________________________________ [Nov 3,2005 8:48pm - LtdEc-1000 ""] ^^^ Amen. Im a senior in highschool. I play Guitar mainly, but i also play the drums, bass, and ive been playing cello since i was 9. Retzam pretty much just wrote out exactly how i feel on the topic. |
| ______________________________________________________________________________________ [Nov 3,2005 9:46pm - KKKKKKKKKKLLLLLLLLLLLLLL LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL ""] PLUIOPIOUY |
| ________________________________ [Nov 3,2005 10:25pm - retzam ""] LtdEc-1000 said:^^^ Amen. Im a senior in highschool. I play Guitar mainly, but i also play the drums, bass, and ive been playing cello since i was 9. Retzam pretty much just wrote out exactly how i feel on the topic. I had a feeling I wasn't the only one man, hahaha. |
| ____________________________________ [Nov 3,2005 10:26pm - IMADOUCHE ""] retzam said:LtdEc-1000 said:^^^ Amen. Im a senior in highschool. I play Guitar mainly, but i also play the drums, bass, and ive been playing cello since i was 9. Retzam pretty much just wrote out exactly how i feel on the topic. I had a feeling I wasn't the only one man, hahaha. YOUR A CUNT |
| ________________________________ [Nov 3,2005 10:26pm - retzam ""] Gotta love that ridiculous poster. My post is so long that I couldn't possibly expect anyone to read it when it's formatted onto two long lines so as to make constant side-scrolling necessary. |
| ________________________________ [Nov 3,2005 10:27pm - retzam ""] You're an anonymous poster. |
| ____________________________________ [Nov 3,2005 10:27pm - IMADOUCHE ""] SO YOUR SAYIN YOU LIKE THAT? |