dec 17th show at the bombshelter[views:28696][posts:156]the Bombshelter (Manchester, NH) - [diatribal_revenge][leukorrhea][shaniqua_and_the_skull_fuckers][shroud_of_bereavement][within_the_fray] ___________________________________ [Dec 19,2004 1:17am - adam_time ""] i didn't say anything about wasting my time, but i know if in almost any small show situation where there were this many bands on the bill, my band were to take over an hour and 30 minutes for their set, anyone playing after us would be pissed. i think considering we were playing first, yet our second guitarist was real late, it was only fair to be playing last; but if one of your keyboardists wasn't coming until the end of the show and you felt you couldn't play without 'em, you'd be in the same situation. and after everyone sits through half of that extra long set and leaves before your band plays, it could be a real shit chomper. and next time you want to complain about a hardcore band being on the bill, try linking that type of music to a band who fits the description. it must "always" be dissapointing to find there's a band that's more "dancy" and less "sleepy". on a scale from one to ten of mediocricy, tell me, where would your band be? and if you score higher than you think we would, tell me why you aren't doing any better than a few fucks in a "hardcore" band. where's your tour bus and your agent? originality holding you back? no one understands your music? aw, i'm sorry. call me when you're actually better than me, and i'll apologize for being such a dick and doubting your self confirmed delusions of grandeur. |
| ___________________________________ [Dec 19,2004 1:41am - dyingmuse ""] Ok not to start anything here, but both of you should just leave this whole pissing contest behind, as I; being the entire creative force behind Shroud, am the only one that truly could answes such a question. I would not want to shame any such people unto compunction. Indeed we play music light years apart, and I must say that I am proud of the fact that we aren't "dancy" call us sleepy all you want. Furthermore, had i known that you were a "mall core" band i certainly would not have booked you. You guys made me walk away in sheer anger, due to a bunch of 14 year olds dressed like a bunch of spoiled moma's boy "dancing" a bit to close to myself. You don't know how many people were on the virge of losing it, and thats why no one was up there for you. There were plenty of people at the bar and outside. Sorry but "Dancing" isn't for me. good luck in the future and thanks for being there either way. You guys played a good set for what it was. And I wouldn't waste my dime on that call there bud!!! |
| __________________________________ [Dec 19,2004 1:58am - kyledoes ""] within the fray sorry but within the last show at the b.s. and this one..you guys are fucking faggots!!! seriously we are assholes but you guys are fucking stupid. fuck you. kyle and pray for a plague. fuck you. shroud can take as long as they want they set up the show. Fuck you. |
| __________________________________ [Dec 19,2004 2:04am - kyledoes ""] you are right dyingmuse mall core is a good way to put it a 2 cent rip off of the red chord and unearth. Shroud has so much more musical integrity than you will ever have. fuck you again. the people that didnt show up. |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 19,2004 2:20am - Dr. State ""] within the last show at the b.s. , thats cute. and where did this term mall core come from? is it because they werent wearing band shirts or chicks pants? heaven forbid someone should wear a sweater in a metal band, wow. i always thought shows were about music. guess i was wrong. its cool if you guys dont hold the mental capacity to apreciate a good band when you hear one. and last time i checked, there are about a thousdand other bands that have ripped off the red chord and unearth, and pretty much every other band that made this kind of music popular. at least they take the time to write more than thrash beats and two note breakdowns. So basically, anyone who has a problem with WTF can go fuck themselves, because regardless of what you think of their music or "image", those kids are some of the nicest down to earth cats youll ever meet. get over yourselves, none of you are rock stars yet. |
| __________________________________ [Dec 19,2004 2:38am - kyledoes ""] this whole thing has nothing to do with what you wear,It is the complete shit that you play. We are not rock stars we are nothing at all. The whole thing is you guys are pretty new as far as playing shows in this area and you guys have the nerve to pick everyone apart even those who give you shows...(mall-core as in people jerk off to your breakdowns onto white studded belts in pac suns nation wide.)trends are awesome!!!keep up the good work!! |
| __________________________________ [Dec 19,2004 2:55am - kyledoes ""] listen to bloodbath......like fire!!!!!! |
| ___________________________________ [Dec 19,2004 3:56am - multipass ""] Honestly, I thought all of the bands did a great job. I don't understand where all of this shit came from. Different types of bands play the same shows from time to time... it's just the way it works out. I don't think he meant anything by saying "sleepy". It is true, Shroud is a great set of musicians with a killer sound... I freakin' love them. However I do agree that it wasn't the right list of bands for them at this show in particular. They should try and find some bands that have a more similar sound the next time they set one up. And I only saw one person dancing during WTF, and it was some scene kid with long hair that danced for everybody, all of the bands... (and that drunk dude with the riduclously kickass beard) There was just tension over the set times and I don't think it was quite as expected for anybody. And as far as the whole mall core thing, that's just stupid. Pac sun nation studded belts blah blah blah what the fuck? You put a little too much thought into that pal. Not starting anything... but seriously dude. Mallcore? Ugh. WTF is a great set of guys who love playing their music, it gets frustrating when shit doesn't turn out the way you want it to. It's happened to us all. Give em' a break dude. |
| ___________________________________ [Dec 19,2004 5:39am - dyingmuse ""] whoahh, I was talking about their fans for one man, the jerkoff kids kicking the stage about an inch away from me and the other kid that slammed into me about 18 times! I was trying to show my support to the ban by standing front row, and banging my head, and I truly wanted to check them out! Now as far as them trying to say they are better than me...ha ha ha ha....they are doing what every other mall core band is doing. Look at the young kids, what are they listening to? Fucking metal core and they all sound the same...see my fucking I hate metalcore thread! and I appreciated them till they talked smack! And kyledoes, I'm with ya man, they have no respect, I booked the show, and listen to this....they were trying to beat us to the stage and take our fucking set time...I posted the order here 3 weeks ago! And they did the same to Lukorhea! Thats another reason why we took our time, that and we were told we had time! We never played those songs in that order before, we did our new song! Whatever, not trying to start shit. I was just taking my drummers back on his post, becausehe had every right. Read that jerkoffs post and then read his. He was just putting that guys words back at him. They started with the disrespect. And fuck it for the record guy, if you want to keep running your mouth, call me when you can write,play my music. I think i could play 3 chords and jump up and down like a retard pretty easily. Actually I could play any of WTF's instruments, I'll sing, play guitar, play the drums and play the bass for your band any day and I'll do it better! And yeah you may be to simpleminded to understand what my music is all about! I made a mistake, I took a chance, I put all different kinds of bands on there thinking that they all would bring a diverse crowd, guess not! hails to Kyledoes and Multipass I hear what you are saying and I agree about 80% \m/ lets just forget this whole thing now ok. this could quite possibly go on for years now. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 19,2004 10:25am - thornnvine ""] First off, read the 1st post by adam time if you are unsure where this started. It sure didn't help us get on stage any sooner when WTF had all their equipment staged on the side stage in our way and we had to remind them when they were going on after they started to set up during our slot. Secondly, all I said is I didn't like their music, still, I stuck around for their entire set. I really don't think about it in a way that Shroud is better or worse than any other band, there is no easy way to compare our music outside of our genre, either you like it or not. You guys sure know how to burn a bridge when we were the ones who put you on that bill. One day soon I'm gonna drop the next hardcore kid who fucking inadvertantly kicks me while doing a half assed gay round house kick as part of his gay dancing. Hey this is a metal vs hardcore website, right? May the most hatefull win. |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 19,2004 10:57am - sean_streets ""] yo as far as your "mallcore" term, i wear what the fuck i want to wear to a show, i wake up in the morning throw on a shirt and get a coffee and smoke a butt. maybe i could be considered mallcore because i dont sit in my room staring at all my faded band shirts and ripped jeans for 20 minutes ripping my hair out. If anything I'm more anti-scene than you, and i dont even know you. so give it a rest pal, Dr. State is right, its music, who gives a fuck what you wear. but lets be serious here, i liked your band. i love opeth, i like doom metal and black metal. there was just way too much tension that night, and to keep bitching at eachother being dog fuckers over this is queer. give it up, when was the last time adam time posted a response to your jargin, quite obviouslyhe doesnt care anymore, and you're sitting in front of your computer waiting for every little comment you can respond to, and i'll tell you this right now, none of us are losing sleep over the fact that you didnt like us, in fact I may even sleep better. So call it a night, okay butch? |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 19,2004 11:01am - adam_time ""] haha, hey kyledoesn't, get outta this fight, you wouldn't know what music was if you were forced to listen to it. go take your slop grind somewhere else. you've just got your undies packed up your ass because of a show that happened months ago with the worst bombshelter turn out that i've seen... and wow, we're trendy, lookout, oh no! i really could care less where we play in the set list at almost any show, and the difference of the crowd size in playing last that night really wasn't that much, cause there was nobody but the bands + 1 or 2 friends in the first place. and look, i apologize for my band members being impatient and wanting to go on, but none of us knew when we were playing. everyone expects me to know so they asked me, i said we were playing last cause i figured that was fair for us not playing first. my drummer asked the sound dude when we were going on and he said go set up now, and he went to get his shit on stage, i'm sorry they were impatient but it's not my fault they were unclear on what was happening. if i had known they were trying to weasel their way on stage i would've slapped them, cause they were acting like little bitches. but mallcore? seriously, did you even hear what we sounded like? dyingmuse i saw you watching us and that was cool, but don't get pissed cause a few kids wanted to move around. so they may have been moving around like assholes but i can't controll that. also i didn't say we were better than you, i think both our bands are mediocre in our respective genre, which is why we're playing the bombshelter and not bringing kids to the shows. if you think you're more than mediocre you might wanna try and get an ubiased opinion to tell you you're better than the average band, because friday night i was unbiased and it wasn't anything i hadn't seen before aside from having 2 female vocalists. and as for young kids listening to metal core, the first metal band i could bear to listen to was dimmu borgir, and doom metal was the easiest thing i could understand. i could easily play your music, as easily as i could play mine, we're musicians and to get into an argument of skill is ludacris. but to say you could do it better, wow kid, think a little highly of yourself? you got a small penis or something? stop trying to make yourself sound incredible, you're not all you make yourself out to be. and i'm sorry i'm too simple minded to understand your eerieness, but that opeth shirt you were wearing just lead to me calling you dimmupeth, and i don't consider that an insult, i love opeth, they're one of my top 10 metal bands. the whole point of this wasn't to start a fight about our band's integrity, and to compare our bands to eachother is like comparing miles davis to led zeppelin, the point of my statements above were to say that the extra long set was unappreciated, and you don't have to like that. but insult my band and i'm gonna insult you, because none of you really know what we're like, and we could care less if you think we're fucking "mallcore" or if you think we have talent at all. but you're right, it probably wasn't a good idea to try and create a diverse bill, and you're the best example of that to date, other kids wanted to move and you couldn't hang with that, and when your band played i couldn't hang either. i really thought you guys were ok, and i said that, but it's just not my type of music, and i said that, too. no reason to get pissed about personal preference, i really didn't think i would've damaged your self perception, sorry for not being so sensitive to your feelings. pussy. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 19,2004 11:16am - thornnvine ""] read your post again, you took a stab at shroud. I respect your opinion, but if you're going to insult, then you're going to get a response. faggot. looking forward to meeting you in person. |
| ___________________________________ [Dec 19,2004 11:23am - kyledoes ""] And kyledoes, I'm with ya man, they have no respect, I booked the show, and listen to this....they were trying to beat us to the stage and take our fucking set time...I posted the order here 3 weeks ago! And they did the same to Lukorhea!....(We may be slop grind but we never disrespected anybody when we started out playing shows..)This is not a fight..I am generally an asshole. |
| ________________________________ [Dec 19,2004 11:25am - eric ""] i'm in within the fray. first, i'd like to say that the only reason we were trying to get on stage before lukorhea is because the sound guy told us to go on next. the reason why we tried to get on stage again is because we figured if lukorhea took our spot then, we must be next. we have no idea who is playing those shows, nor do we know when to play... when all your communication is done through this messageboard, it gets confusing. next, i would like to add that our music is blatantly NOT three power chords. if you listened to us for more than two seconds, you would realize that you're very wrong. i enjoyed shroud for what it was, but how can you compare skill level based on what notes were being played on guitar? if i wanted to compare shroud riffs to within the fray riffs, its a completely different story. if you wanted me to get on stage and play opeth, i could - i love them - they're not my style of writing. ok guys, so everybody can stop whining about mallcore and opeth ripoffs because you are all wrong and acting like fucking babies. grow up. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 19,2004 11:30am - thornnvine ""] eric, I hear you. I believe adam time brought up the comparing of bands. everyone else was just responding. |
| ________________________________ [Dec 19,2004 11:32am - eric ""] also, we didn't "just start out playing shows" - we just started playing at the bombshelter. we've being playing out for about two years. |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 19,2004 12:43pm - multipass ""] By the way, dyingmuse. As for the "14 year olds" dancing that made you walk away in sheer anger... I happened to be one of them, and I'm 20 not 14. These guys are pals of mine, and I like to support em by moving around a bit for them. That's all. Shroud and my band played together at the Raven last year in Wareham, MA. I recorded your entire set on video. I got one of your demos. I listened to it all of the time. Not anymore man. Honestly, I fucking love music. I really don't care what it is. I'm listening to the Final Fantasy 8 Piano Soundtrack right now, and loving it. Oh and hey, I'm wearing an Opeth shirt... go figure. But when people start making fun of a crowd, because they get into music a little differently, that's not cool. Certain people do it differently, you should respect that. I sure as hell respect those who choose not move around. Just because you're music may have a deeper meaning to you(and I'm sure it does, it's an amazing sound) I just don't see how standing still and drinking a beer makes you better than me if I decide to move around a bit. You honestly have to come down off of your high horse and realize that your band is no place to downtalk. No ones band is, unless you're one of the greats. Which you, or any band at that show was not. Please, just realize that and have some respect for the way certain people respond to music that they love. I stood in front for your band for two or 3 of the songs. I wasn't up there at the end because my legs hurt, otherwise you would've seen me up there. That is not an attack saying you guys went on too long, my legs really did hurt I had been standing for awhile. But honestly, give the "I'm older and more mature and better than everyone" thing a rest man. By the way, I look forward to purchasing an album next chance I get... when is your next show? I know you mentioned it I just can't remember, I was tired. |
| ______________________________ [Dec 19,2004 1:03pm - jtc ""] haha, this message board made my morning. |
| ___________________________________ [Dec 19,2004 1:05pm - multipass ""] thicurs? haha. yessss. |
| ______________________________________________ [Dec 19,2004 1:14pm - adam_huge_is_my_hero ""] i'm glad i just wasted time reading this thread. you're all the bosses. |
| __________________________________ [Dec 19,2004 1:58pm - kyledoes ""] fuck this I am gonna start a rap metal band!! this thread is fucking hilarious..getting people going through a computer. the 90's rule the internet really is the wave of the future!!! I invented the lobster you fucking faggot. |
| ______________________________________________ [Dec 19,2004 4:37pm - adam_huge_is_my_hero ""] that's funny. ^ |
| __________________________________ [Dec 19,2004 4:45pm - Aegathis ""] Lets stick to the subject at hand , whats more octopuss like ?>:] |
| ___________________________________ [Dec 19,2004 6:25pm - dyingmuse ""] lol this thread is funny as hell. ok i guess i was just responding to the negative shit. i did go off a bit, and at the time i hadn't slept for 3 days. i respect every single band and crowd goer more than any of you know. i try to support all the bands, even if it's not my thing, i still stand there and support. as far as the clothes thing goes, i don't care if you wear fucking dresses, i just don't like being kicked and pushed after laying brick all day in the freezing cold, not sleeping in 2 days, being laid off and every other thing that sucks in my life. the point is, i just wanted to drink my beer and watch you guys jam. i guess i was a bit harsh, bit i was a bit offended with what was said above. and as far as me saying i could play any of your instruments....well i wasn't being egotistical, i was being honest, i didn't hear anything that i couldnt play, and im not saying that now to offend you. i am actually the most insecure, deppressed loser you will ever meet. so forget about thinking that am full of myself. ask anyone on this board that knows me. we truly are worlds apart musically, and still i do respect that, you guys do good at what you do, so keep doing it! just ease up on the insults. hails! and mulitpass, fuck man, i knew you looked familiar! whats up man? good to hear from ya, lol a bit weird to re-meet this way..lol you rock! \m/ are we all ok now? cheers |
| ____________________________________________ [Dec 19,2004 7:01pm - Todd(bombshelter) ""] dyingmuse said:, i just don't like being kicked and pushed after laying brick all day in the freezing cold Don't stand close to the stage when there is gonna be moshing/dancing goin on. i didn't hear anything that i couldnt play. You were not listening good enough you were too pissed off at the whole set time/peolple bumping into you thing? They (wtf) are a pretty technical band,get the demo and listen to it with an open mind they deffinately are not mall core,I don't know how you all do it in Mass,But here we like to try and mix shit up if you cannot exist at a show with other bands of different style,then you should really hang it up now(are they really that different?, They are extreme metal as far as i knew ,just like shaniqua,leukorrhea,or shroud ,for that matter). As far as them goin on,Rob(soundguy) and myself were under the impression that they were on first, but their guitarist was not there at the time, So.... Rob told me to tell them that they could go on when he got there. So if ya wanna blame anyone, blame Rob, but he will just tell you to go fuck your self ,he was just doin what he was supposed to do according to YOUR set times. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 19,2004 7:51pm - RustedAngel ""] what the fucking gay happend here? |
| __________________________________ [Dec 19,2004 8:53pm - Aegathis ""] FUCKING OCTOPUSS!! |
| ___________________________________ [Dec 20,2004 1:37am - multipass ""] Dyingmuse, yeah haha. I wasn't sure if you would remember me or not, that show was a long time ago. You guys played a great set that night, although that bar was sort of shady as hell. Haha, you rock too bro! Keep on doin' your thing man. I look forward to hearing the new shit, seeya around meng. |
| ______________________________________ [Dec 20,2004 2:03am - sean_streets ""] I love Todd. |
| _________________________________________ [Dec 20,2004 2:41am - milkydeathgrind ""] hold on basketball is on again......slam dunk!!!!! life is so funn!!!!! |
| ___________________________________ [Dec 20,2004 2:43am - multipass ""] Yo todd, btw, I'm the semi-bald kid that talked to you at the show, (Sean). I can't click your name for some reason, so is there another way I can get a hold of you? Thanks man, have a good night. |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 20,2004 3:02am - JonahBloodbath ""] Not that this really matters, but Within the Fray is not a hardcore band. They don't sound like minor threat. Within the Fray is a metal band, deal with it. |
| __________________________________ [Dec 20,2004 3:13am - succubus ""] multipass said:Yo todd, btw, I'm the semi-bald kid that talked to you at the show, (Sean). I can't click your name for some reason, so is there another way I can get a hold of you? Thanks man, have a good night. he's not logged in that's why you can't click..but i'm sure he'll see this soon and reply |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 20,2004 5:29am - thornnvine ""] JonahBloodbath said:Not that this really matters, but Within the Fray is not a hardcore band. They don't sound like minor threat. Within the Fray is a metal band, deal with it. metalcore rulez |
| ______________________________________ [Dec 20,2004 11:32am - RustedAngel ""] you guys need to realize that bashing metalcore isn't going to effect anything. people are going to play what they want just as you are. it will only make more people hate you or your band, but none of you care I'm sure. hahahaha [img] |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 20,2004 12:13pm - dyingmuse ""] hey rustedanal, how was the show in ny? looked like a great time! did you guys rock? |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 20,2004 12:21pm - adam_time ""] hahaha, water under the bridge, guys. i really didn't mean to offend your band by what i said, i guess i shouldn't have written a post as soon as i woke up, cause i generally hate the world in the morning. but i seriously thought the guy said you have time for about one more solo, and i should've kept my mouth shut, but i just thought that was a mean thing to say. if i wasn't half deaf in my right ear i probably would've heard the "time for one more short one" statement, but sorry to call that out anyway. as i said i liked your sound, but i was extremely agitated about it at the time, and i realize now i was just being a sloppy cock cause i wanted to play and get home to be drunk on my birthday, and the long setup just pushed me off the edge. but good luck to you guys in the future, just try not to call people mallcore, cause that's almost as bad as saying we sound like godsmack... which is obviously the most devious insult ever. sincerely bleeding through the eye sockets in a regretful fashion, ~adam time can i get a "my bandana is blue and my dreads are hangy like silk worms" drums=octopus hair=hangy silk worms anthony, hope you found your bag, brah. |
| ______________________________________ [Dec 20,2004 12:25pm - RustedAngel ""] dyingmuse said:hey rustedanal, how was the show in ny? looked like a great time! did you guys rock? dan it was awesome, free food, free drafts for bands (though I don't drink) and sick bands. can't wait to go back in jan. |
| ___________________________________ [Dec 20,2004 12:38pm - Aegathis ""] whats happening in January? can we play? I actually talked to todd last night about my back pack by the way. |
| __________________________________________ [Dec 20,2004 12:49pm - kellthevalkyrie ""] well. this thread turned pretty gay. i had a lot of fun, and so did the people that came with me. thanks to all the bands that played. thanks to Aaron for taking the time to come out to this show. |
| ___________________________________ [Dec 20,2004 2:57pm - dyingmuse ""] thanks to kelly for bringing the fun peeps to our party. but you can't beat troll and chug of mutilation. they are the bosses of party! |
| _____________________________________________ [Dec 21,2004 12:59am - Todd(bombshelter) ""] multipass said:Yo todd, btw, I'm the semi-bald kid that talked to you at the show, (Sean). I can't click your name for some reason, so is there another way I can get a hold of you? Thanks man, have a good night. My E-mail is Canniballust666@yahoo.com, I am sorry I have not had a free moment to call you, you can reach me at this addy:doublehorns: |
| ____________________________________________ [Dec 21,2004 1:00am - Todd(bombshelter) ""] sean_streets said:I love Todd. :thescream: |
| __________________________________ [Dec 21,2004 9:07am - b00bies ""] A lot of people do |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 21,2004 10:34am - sean_streets ""] i love bOObies too, possibly, no... definetely more. |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 21,2004 11:57am - multipass ""] no dude, boobs suck. what you need is a nice stiff cock. trust me, you'll feel like a new man afterwards. |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 21,2004 12:03pm - sean_streets ""] hahaha, nah dude, ive seen its after effects. |
| __________________________________ [Dec 21,2004 12:59pm - PJThinz ""] .....wow........ |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 21,2004 1:13pm - anonymous ""] hes not 40, hes not even 30 |