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attn bands who are interested in contributing to the RTTP COMPILATION CD(S) post here

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[Feb 24,2005 10:24pm - succubus ""]
post here if you are an interested band
state whether you can donate $$$ price is still tbd...

we need this info so that we can figure out the following: (thanks josh)
how many copies? (seems like at least 1000)
who can get the best price for a "professional" looking product?
how long are all the songs to be entered?
can they be fit to 2 discs?
who will master/normalize it?
do bands even want to pay or as some one suggested some bands do a paid version and everyone else do an indy DIY comp?
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[Feb 24,2005 10:29pm - El Justin  ""]
Mucopus is interested, and would donate $
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[Feb 24,2005 10:31pm - KeithMutiny ""]
ps- you get more scene points for the DIY comp, for those keeping track, hehe
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[Feb 24,2005 10:35pm - cdan ""]
Pillory is down.

for printing the CD, i'm pretty sure Wonderdrug is the way to go, cheap and profesh product. but this would have to move quickly, cause they do like a 4-6 week turnaround i think.
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[Feb 24,2005 10:36pm - eddie ""]
dissector is interested, and depending how much you ask for we'll donate $

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[Feb 24,2005 10:37pm - dreadkill ""]
dreaded silence is interested
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[Feb 24,2005 10:49pm - chiefassholeofdww ""]
dww is down and we already got our song done. we can donate some moola too.
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[Feb 24,2005 10:55pm - Blood-Obsessed ""]
Blood Obsession will do it!!! Money shouldn't be a problem...
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[Feb 24,2005 11:00pm - Aegathis  ""]
I wouldnt mind throwing in one of the coffin birth songs i have on myspace, as of right now though i have no money to donate , and i personally wont for a while.
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[Feb 24,2005 11:15pm - kok still way too cool and nli  ""]
hcn yes $ yes
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[Feb 24,2005 11:18pm - anonymous  ""]
Hi.

Love,

The Boys of Hand Choke Neck
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[Feb 24,2005 11:21pm - hoser ""]
Dear Carina,

Hi.

Love,

Jake (HCN)
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[Feb 24,2005 11:21pm - GoatCatalyst  ""]
Catalyst would love to contribute. We'd probably want to put "A Miracle by Default" on. It's 3:46 long. I suggest contacting Jason Suecof in Florida for mastering or all things tech-specific. Dude is gold. We'd be willing to kick in with some funds; I'm sure the Reverend won't be purchasing his lavender Cadillac with the proceeds from this.
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[Feb 24,2005 11:24pm - dneirflrigruoydelianI ""]
... i wish i could be a part of this
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[Feb 24,2005 11:26pm - dyingmuse ""]
sob are down!
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[Feb 24,2005 11:36pm - Sinistas ""]
dreadkill said:dreaded silence is interested


and willing to contribute some greenback$
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[Feb 24,2005 11:39pm - goratory nli  ""]
Goratory is definatley down for this. i'm broke ass but will donate if the price is not ridiculous.
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[Feb 24,2005 11:43pm - dyingmuse ""]
i have some green jesus to chip in, so when is the deadline and how much $ do we all have to pay?
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[Feb 25,2005 12:41am - Josh_hates_you ""]
mucopus
pillory
dissector
DWW
Blood obsession
Hand Choke Neck
catylyst
dreaded silence
goratory
shroud

for those keeping track that is 10 bands. awesome start.

as far as who is actualy organizeing this? who knows. but it was more or less my idea and i am willing to be that guy. and im sure i cant do this alone. well maybe i can. whatever.

im still looking around at prices and i have been talking to a few people who have done this sort of thing before for advice and one thing they all tell me is that there should be some copies aimed at newbury comics and catalogues for people who do not attend metal fest or local shows to purchase the product later. i originaly was think 100% non profit strictly promotional oportunity. but with the amount of bands interested it seems feasable to have multiple volumes over the next several months. thus making profit off of the venture lucrative to the idea of future comps that might need less funding from the bands for support. $$$$ fucking sucks. i fucking hate it. since money is a sensitive issue more details need to be arranged and taken into consideration. in an ideal situation we would not want more than $50 per band.

20 bands by 50 bucks would be $1000 for pressing. none for mastering unless we use all mastered tracks and just normalize them to the same volume for pressing. $1000 for 1000 discs with jewel case 2 pg sleeve & tray insert is the best deal i could find without any contact person as anne or joe or dweyer may have.

but then again 20 bands 72 minute cd = most bands need 3:30 second songs on average to fit onto one cd. which means either more than 1 cd or more than one volume.

then how to actually distribute the cds? the bands involved should get x number. the rev should get a few to toss around. several hundred for the metal fest. 1 or 200 for newbury comics and catalogues to fund future comps?

there needs to be more hardcore bands. but many bands like Colin of Arabia dont post here so i might have to send them and email. and they are on bridge9, i dont know if that could get in the way? it shouldnt since its not a HUGE label. and what about bands like invocation of nehek? they are an "rttp" band but on a label. maybe the bigger bands should be asked to be on it? maybe we could get prosthetic to help sponsor this? o wishful thinking i know but whatever works. maybe kids will keep it longer if there are established bands on it?

im rambling/thinking too much. as i gather more info i will put together a final $$ and even write up a contract for use of and rights to certain materials and explaining the cost breakdown including what they need to provide and what they get in return. if bands wanted to submit exclusive material that would be awesome to have songs you cant get anywhere else. the deadline will be set according to the turn around of the duplication service. we want to have these in time for the metal fest April 24th. so April 1st at the latest maybe even earlier depending on the dup service. these details still need to be arranged, but this WILL happen in one way shape form or another.

maybe i should use the caps button when i type sentences?
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[Feb 25,2005 1:02am - dyingmuse ""]
as i said on the other thread, i can get discounts, help with mastering,
distro and possible layout and even website. also our shortest song is like10 or 12 minutes, so how would that work.

i have connections with superdups and icon onmi media.
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[Feb 25,2005 1:11am - AUTOPSY_666 ""]
I can have 1000 raw CDs done for around $500.

1000 jewel cases X .25 = $250.

All we need to do is have booklets and traycards printed.

I believe Tim (PORPHYRIA) and Nate (LEUKORRHEA) work in printing.
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[Feb 25,2005 1:30am - silky ""]
pray for a plague is down.
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[Feb 25,2005 2:28am - GoatCatalyst  ""]
should this come down to the bartering system, i have a 26 year old peruvian male of dubious health but good for manual labor and eight pounds of the Turkey's finest hashish to offer. will negotiate.
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[Feb 25,2005 2:30am - cdan ""]
$50 is definitely reasonable. just let me know what we need to do:

chris/Pillory, cdanecek@rcn.com
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[Feb 25,2005 3:08am - boobtoucher ""]
the_network. will throw some action on there and throw down some luccinni as well.

endtransmission@hotmail.com
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[Feb 25,2005 4:46am - milkydeathgrind ""]
i can master/normalize everything for free!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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[Feb 25,2005 7:00am - KeithMutiny ""]
Josh_hates_you said:mucopus
pillory
dissector
DWW
Blood obsession
Hand Choke Neck
catylyst
dreaded silence
goratory
shroud

for those keeping track that is 10 bands. awesome start.

as far as who is actualy organizeing this? who knows. but it was more or less my idea and i am willing to be that guy. and im sure i cant do this alone. well maybe i can. whatever.

im still looking around at prices and i have been talking to a few people who have done this sort of thing before for advice and one thing they all tell me is that there should be some copies aimed at newbury comics and catalogues for people who do not attend metal fest or local shows to purchase the product later. i originaly was think 100% non profit strictly promotional oportunity. but with the amount of bands interested it seems feasable to have multiple volumes over the next several months. thus making profit off of the venture lucrative to the idea of future comps that might need less funding from the bands for support. $$$$ fucking sucks. i fucking hate it. since money is a sensitive issue more details need to be arranged and taken into consideration. in an ideal situation we would not want more than $50 per band.

20 bands by 50 bucks would be $1000 for pressing. none for mastering unless we use all mastered tracks and just normalize them to the same volume for pressing. $1000 for 1000 discs with jewel case 2 pg sleeve & tray insert is the best deal i could find without any contact person as anne or joe or dweyer may have.

but then again 20 bands 72 minute cd = most bands need 3:30 second songs on average to fit onto one cd. which means either more than 1 cd or more than one volume.

then how to actually distribute the cds? the bands involved should get x number. the rev should get a few to toss around. several hundred for the metal fest. 1 or 200 for newbury comics and catalogues to fund future comps?

there needs to be more hardcore bands. but many bands like Colin of Arabia dont post here so i might have to send them and email. and they are on bridge9, i dont know if that could get in the way? it shouldnt since its not a HUGE label. and what about bands like invocation of nehek? they are an "rttp" band but on a label. maybe the bigger bands should be asked to be on it? maybe we could get prosthetic to help sponsor this? o wishful thinking i know but whatever works. maybe kids will keep it longer if there are established bands on it?

im rambling/thinking too much. as i gather more info i will put together a final $$ and even write up a contract for use of and rights to certain materials and explaining the cost breakdown including what they need to provide and what they get in return. if bands wanted to submit exclusive material that would be awesome to have songs you cant get anywhere else. the deadline will be set according to the turn around of the duplication service. we want to have these in time for the metal fest April 24th. so April 1st at the latest maybe even earlier depending on the dup service. these details still need to be arranged, but this WILL happen in one way shape form or another.

maybe i should use the caps button when i type sentences?



ill help ya out organizing, since there aint much else i can do
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[Feb 25,2005 7:58am - milkydeathgrind ""]
for FREE!!!!!!!!!!
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[Feb 25,2005 8:06am - aterribleguitarist ""]
a terrible night for a curse is down
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[Feb 25,2005 8:15am - MarkKevorkian ""]
Yes
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[Feb 25,2005 8:43am - WhyamIandasshole at home  ""]
RAOV. Ja bird ma?
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[Feb 25,2005 8:50am - Patnomalous  ""]
My bass player owns and operates his own Screen Printing Company in RI. He Prints The CD's, prints the covers, Shit, he can do the shrink wrap if be needed. also T-shirts, stickers, bannners, posters and all of it reasonable in price. Bands/RTTP if interested call his shop at (401) 722-4422 at Janelle Printing. his name is Mike
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[Feb 25,2005 9:18am - Soloman ""]
I design cd layouts and websites for bands. I'll offer to design this for dirt cheap and can guarantee a profesh looking layout. Attention Joshhatesyou, I sent you an email and private message. Write me back if you are interested.

This compilation is a great idea. We just need to get the ball rolling to make sure it is out in time.

\m/ >_< \m/
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[Feb 25,2005 9:22am - nate ""]
add LEUKORRHEA to it... if anyone needs help with anything I can do whatever needs to be done graphic wise.
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[Feb 25,2005 9:30am - ThoseNotOnTheAss ""]
Those not on the list would like to be a part of this.
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[Feb 25,2005 10:01am - Josh_hates_you ""]
im still taking quotes on getting it pressed.

as dweyer suggested we could get 1000 cds pressed for 500.

jewel cases can be obtained for 20 cents a piece

then i need a quote on the printing for the tray insert and the booklet and get it all shrink wrapped.

OR

or i can get 1000 retail ready black and white for $1000
1000 full color cardboard sleeve things for just under $1000

maybe dyingmuse with the "hookup" at superdups could get a lower price.

nate can you get us a price quote on doing the insert trays and the booklet?

pillory
dissector
DWW
Blood obsession
Hand Choke Neck
catylyst
dreaded silence
goratory
shroud
RAOV
leukorrhea
a terrible nite for a curse
the network
those not on the list
kevorkians angels
burn my remains

thats a crazy cd so far. i also though of doing more than one volume. it is way more feasable than a double disc at this time. if enough bands sign up we could release volume 1 and 2 at the same time.

once i get the price worked out i will be writing a contract for this and put everything in writing.
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[Feb 25,2005 10:05am - Hung_To_Bleed ""]
Burn My Remains is definatly down, the loot is not a problem.
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[Feb 25,2005 10:34am - Soloman ""]
get in touch dudes. I'll do a sick layout. :doublehorns:
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[Feb 25,2005 10:36am - handinjury ""]
Anoxia is down for this.
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[Feb 25,2005 10:52am - Anthony ""]
Cryptic Warning is definitely down!

We can give money and can contribute a completely new recorded track from our debut SANITY'S ABERRATION.

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[Feb 25,2005 10:59am - j of b.o.e  ""]
we're interested in putting a song on it
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[Feb 25,2005 11:07am - tbone_r ""]
you should figure out how many songs you can fit on the cd, then say the first ____ bands to pay the 50 bucks are in. if there are a lot more bands that don't make the cut, then the next _____ to get in the 50 bucks can be on the next volume etc..
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[Feb 25,2005 11:16am - Josh_hates_you ""]
wonder drug = $1300 total. includes: jewel cases, 4 pp, tray insert, film, shipping, 3 color printing on disc, shrink wrapped.

dgr = $1010 + shipping. jewel cases, 4pp color out b/w in, tray insert films, 1-5 colors on disc. probably around 1200 after shipping.

raw cds = around 500 plus shipping + jewel cases @ 20 cents ea. (www.allmediaoutlet.com) + the inserts (TBD) + dweyer packaging and wrapping with help of course. probably between 900 - 1000 after all is said and done + shipping

brain fart = if more than 20 bands want on @ $50 per band we could probably make the 2 disc set work but ONLY if we package them ourselves.
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[Feb 25,2005 11:23am - Josh_hates_you ""]
tbone_r said:you should figure out how many songs you can fit on the cd, then say the first ____ bands to pay the 50 bucks are in. if there are a lot more bands that don't make the cut, then the next _____ to get in the 50 bucks can be on the next volume etc..



yeah i was thinking that too.... BUT cd = 72 minutes in length = about 3:30 per 20 songs and alot of bands have longer songs. hell shroud has 9 minute songs. if we put on longer songs it means less bands less bands = less money = either less copies or less quality. which leads to the idea of paying for space on the cd by song length (which is kind of a gay idea)

so now if 30 bands get on a 50 per = 1500 = 2 discs little over $1000 for pressing 1000 of each + 25 cent 2 disc jewel cases = 1250 + some for shipping costs = between 1 and 200 for books/inserts. and this means dweyer and i do most of the work it seems. (i need to contact him)
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[Feb 25,2005 11:28am - paganmegan ""]
Hekseri would love to contribute a song and $$ to this cause
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[Feb 25,2005 11:32am - litacore ""]
yeah, what she said
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[Feb 25,2005 11:37am - PilloryDan@work  ""]
get in touch dudes. I'll do a sick layout.
Have Soloman do the layout...The kid has skilzs
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[Feb 25,2005 11:44am - cdan ""]
Josh_hates_you said:wonder drug = $1300 total. includes: jewel cases, 4 pp, tray insert, film, shipping, 3 color printing on disc, shrink wrapped.

dgr = $1010 + shipping. jewel cases, 4pp color out b/w in, tray insert films, 1-5 colors on disc. probably around 1200 after shipping.

raw cds = around 500 plus shipping + jewel cases @ 20 cents ea. (www.allmediaoutlet.com) + the inserts (TBD) + dweyer packaging and wrapping with help of course. probably between 900 - 1000 after all is said and done + shipping

brain fart = if more than 20 bands want on @ $50 per band we could probably make the 2 disc set work but ONLY if we package them ourselves.



i say go with Wonderdrug, get the whole nice package, skip the hassle of assembly and packaging. $1300, 20 bands, thats $65 per band.
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[Feb 25,2005 11:46am - cdan ""]
and have Solo do the cover and layout for sure: http://marcos-solo.com/
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[Feb 25,2005 11:48am - PilloryDan@work  ""]
So what will be the offcial name for the comp?????

RTTP Sausage Fest Compilation
:doublehorns:

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