Who does mOe remind you of more?[views:24078][posts:164][poll! to vote:click here] to view:click here] _____________________________________ [Feb 5,2007 11:55am - horror_tang ""] Let's hear what you think. |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 5,2007 11:57am - anonymous ""] why does everyone hate that kid? |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 5,2007 11:58am - anonymous ""] because he twirls his drum sticks |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 5,2007 11:59am - horror_tang ""] Because he is a disgrace. |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 5,2007 12:00pm - RichHorror ""] Moe hates black people. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 5,2007 12:00pm - horror_tang ""] Damn Klan is alive and well in New Jersey. |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 5,2007 12:05pm - anonymoussy ""] because he thinks the cops pull him over just because he's black psh. the real reason they pull him over is because he escaped from the zoo. |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 5,2007 12:07pm - RichHorror ""] This is a rootin' tootin' jigoff. |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 5,2007 12:09pm - anonymoussy ""] this morning on today |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 5,2007 12:10pm - the_reverend ""] lame. |
| __________________________________ [Feb 5,2007 12:48pm - cav nli ""] good to know they still let racists work with children. gotta pass on those values ya know. |
| ____________________________ [Feb 5,2007 1:15pm - mOe ""] YES i'm finally one of the RTTP elite...to have a hate thread made about me...man...this is truly an honor I'd like to thank anyone who's ever liked/hated me...i couldnt have done it without you. Especially guys like hoser, powerkok, how could i forget JOsh Martin...and most recently Horror Tang. A man who...i've never said a word to in person or on the internet until he started bashing me for god knows what reason. A man of valor. A man with pride. A man with...NOTHING else better to do. His lack of importance in this world has truly made this a wonderful day for me. Thanks *applause* |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 5,2007 1:16pm - RichHorror ""] horror_tang is a posterchild for not getting married. |
| ____________________________ [Feb 5,2007 1:18pm - mOe ""] he's a poster child for not doing a lot of things |
| _________________________________ [Feb 5,2007 1:21pm - powerkok ""] Why the fuck are you dragging me and Hoser into this??? Ive never said word fucking one, to you, around you, about you, so you can drop that routine, right now. I have a shaved head, and look a bit on the biker side of things, so Im automatically against you?? GO FUCK YOURSELF, racist black asshole. |
| _________________________________ [Feb 5,2007 1:22pm - powerkok ""] And you use your ice bell too much, peice of shit. |
| ____________________________ [Feb 5,2007 1:24pm - mOe ""] haha, i just simply said you guys' names because i remember getting into a minor tiff/disagreement with one of you a while back, no bad blood or anything everything i said in the statement was pretty much in jest. My gripe is with horror tang. You know, for a group of br00tal metal heads, ya'll sure are sensetive. |
| ____________________________ [Feb 5,2007 1:24pm - mOe ""] and i dont have an ice bell |
| _________________________________ [Feb 5,2007 1:32pm - powerkok ""] I dont remember said tiff's. Didnt you hear that they train us Whitey, to be more sensitive these days? |
| _______________________________ [Feb 5,2007 1:33pm - xmikex ""] what the hell is an ice bell? |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 5,2007 1:34pm - RichHorror ""] RTTP SLAPFIGHT |
| _________________________________ [Feb 5,2007 1:42pm - powerkok ""] xmikex said:what the hell is an ice bell? Moe apparently needs an ice bell. |
| _________________________________ [Feb 5,2007 1:43pm - powerkok ""] [img] |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 5,2007 1:43pm - RichHorror ""] This list is a sham. Neither Carlton Banks or Theo Huxtable are represented. What bullshit. |
| _________________________________________ [Feb 5,2007 1:44pm - Dwellingsickness ""] It has to be a internet slapfest, A real fight would be way to one sided |
| _________________________________ [Feb 5,2007 1:56pm - powerkok ""] [img] |
| _________________________________ [Feb 5,2007 1:58pm - powerkok ""] HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA that makes me laugh everytime. |
| _________________________________ [Feb 5,2007 2:00pm - powerkok ""] Dwellingsickness said:It has to be a internet slapfest, A real fight would be way to one sided Ya, plus now with Wii sports, Im toning my tits. |
| ________________________________________ [Feb 5,2007 2:02pm - DreamingInExile ""] [img] |
| _________________________________ [Feb 5,2007 2:04pm - powerkok ""] that one rules too.... I remember when I showed Stevus that gif, he fucking literally watched it and laughed his balls off for at least 5 minutes straight. |
| ________________________________________ [Feb 5,2007 2:09pm - DreamingInExile ""] haha just for the record: I take no sides in this interweb slapfest. I've been friends with kok & hoser for quite a while now, and the couple of times I've met moe he's been cool shit. so, enough with this battle... Jesse, go get HCN back together, you need to play a farewell show, and Moe, go get RK back together for a reunion... /two cents |
| __________________________________ [Feb 5,2007 2:18pm - dyingmuse ""] I am 100% agreeing with Dreaming Exile. I love all the HCN guys, and their music. Moe is a cool shit and a sick drummer. Enough already. |
| __________________________________ [Feb 5,2007 2:18pm - dyingmuse ""] Farewell show with SOB? |
| ________________________________________ [Feb 5,2007 2:20pm - DreamingInExile ""] sounds like a plan to me... kok, let's make this shit happen, I don't care if we play in my front yard in the snow! (the landlord would love that one...) |
| __________________________________ [Feb 5,2007 2:27pm - dyingmuse ""] Bump for metal shows het Moe, what are you doing now as far as bands? You still playing? |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 5,2007 2:33pm - sxealex nli ""] moe is the man |
| _________________________________ [Feb 5,2007 2:35pm - brian_dc ""] sxealex nli said:moe is the man |
| __________________________________________ [Feb 5,2007 3:59pm - timmy bro-phyria ""] KRS One |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 5,2007 4:00pm - RichHorror ""] Oh, I just thought of one. Future from 8 Mile. |
| ____________________________ [Feb 5,2007 5:30pm - mOe ""] dyingmuse said:Bump for metal shows het Moe, what are you doing now as far as bands? You still playing? yo i'm in a couple pop bands around here in Western MA one of which has some mainstream potential, but i'm more of a hired gun for that one in terms of heavy music, I'm in War On Our Shores and there's somethin else i'm in the process of becoming a part of but i have to keep hush about it until they square shit away. T'will be awesome, though. |
| _________________________________ [Feb 5,2007 7:59pm - powerkok ""] I also take no sides in this one. Im cool with Moe. And his non existent ice bell. |
| _________________________________ [Feb 5,2007 8:03pm - powerkok ""] Dunno about a farewell show....as far as Im concerned, HCN could very well be playing again in the near future. It is a true hiatus, and not a 'break-up'. I am concentrating on recording right now, and want to really nail a sweet guitar tone. Im setting up a studio in my living room, and have capability to record everything but drums, so I look foward to that. |
| _________________________________ [Feb 5,2007 9:47pm - Cecchini ""] i happen to like moe, and i voted for the oreo cookie. |
| _______________________________________ [Feb 5,2007 11:16pm - kessaris nli ""] after living with moe for 3 years...here are a few reasons why I hate moe: he rapes children he raped me he loves culture club he hates beneath the massacre and he loves to do drugs |
| __________________________________ [Feb 5,2007 11:18pm - Cecchini ""] you left out how much you hated the fact that he slept with a cooked steak under his pillow every night. |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 5,2007 11:40pm - nickyhelliot ""] Moe punched me in the face the first night I met him. He's pretty cool though. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 5,2007 11:48pm - horror_tang ""] mOe said:YES i'm finally one of the RTTP elite...to have a hate thread made about me...man...this is truly an honor I'd like to thank anyone who's ever liked/hated me...i couldnt have done it without you. Especially guys like hoser, powerkok, how could i forget JOsh Martin...and most recently Horror Tang. A man who...i've never said a word to in person or on the internet until he started bashing me for god knows what reason. A man of valor. A man with pride. A man with...NOTHING else better to do. His lack of importance in this world has truly made this a wonderful day for me. Thanks *applause* mOe said:YES i'm finally one of the RTTP elite...to have a hate thread made about me...man...this is truly an honor I'd like to thank anyone who's ever liked/hated me...i couldnt have done it without you. Especially guys like hoser, powerkok, how could i forget JOsh Martin...and most recently Horror Tang. A man who...i've never said a word to in person or on the internet until he started bashing me for god knows what reason. A man of valor. A man with pride. A man with...NOTHING else better to do. His lack of importance in this world has truly made this a wonderful day for me. Thanks *applause* Oh, how soon we forget things. We have spoken face to face. I simply struck up a conversation with you when we played a show together in Providence with RK . I being a friendly guy like to talk to people in other bands that we're playing with. Truthfully, I never have problems with anyone except for the few people I fuck with. Otherwise, I get along with 95% of the people I have met over the years in the scene. Well, you were a dick to me for no reason. You came across with the biggest fucking rockstar attitude who looked to not have time for anyone except himself as you sat in the corner by yourself while the bands played. Way to support the scene. Well, I am willing to give everyone a second chance and maybe chalk it up to you having a bad day. Well, we played another show with you at the Chopping Block (RIP) and you came across as the same fucking prick to me and numerous others. So, now you are my enemy. I have found the best way to bash people is to state the obvious. The obvious is that you are about as Black as Wayne Brady. I can guarantee I know more about Black culture an history than you will ever know, and I am as white as can be. You are ignorant and a joke. There's your explanation. Go fuck yourself white boy! |
| _________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 12:41am - espltd ""] If your so bitter about the couple times you guys met.... maybe your a closet case. hmmmmm or a full blown faggot. |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 1:00am - horror_tang ""] Holy shit! Zing! Wow, I have heard those can be signs, but damn are you sure Nancy? Why don't you take you anonymous post somewhere else there you crazy dame? Phew, but, wow that was a good one. Keep them coming. Goodnight Cupcake. |
| ________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 1:14am - espltd ""] Its okay..when I turn 30 I hope I can be as fat,talentless,and racist as you.... maybe I will even have my own forum.... someday. |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 5:44am - RichHorror ""] Jeff, you have Alzheimer's. The Choppin' Block show was nearly a year before the show in RI. |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 8:59am - horror_tang ""] Really?! So he was a prick before the RI show. Even better reason to hate him. |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 9:09am - horror_tang ""] espltd said:Its okay..when I turn 30 I hope I can be as fat,talentless,and racist as you.... maybe I will even have my own forum.... someday. Fat and talentless I am, but racist? Moe is the racist, self-loathing "Black" man. "You ain't so tough now, little nigga. I hate you black bastards, you *stink*! I hate your black skin. I hate your black pants. I hate black pepper. I hate black keys on a piano. I hate my gums, because they're black. I hate Whoopi Goldberg's *lips*. I hate the back of Forrest Whittaker's neck. Huh? Most of all, I hate that black-ass Wesley Snipes." |
| _______________________________ [Feb 6,2007 9:45am - xmikex ""] horror_tang said:. I can guarantee I know more about Black culture an history than you will ever know, Looks like it's time for a good olll fashioned Black-Off! Hot Damn!! |
| ____________________________ [Feb 6,2007 9:52am - pam ""] I don't know mOe, so I don't care. I'll cut someone for horror tang, though. CUT! |
| _________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 9:54am - sinistas ""] Given his dealings with the white power folk last month, I'm calling that Jeff's not a racist. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 9:55am - the_reverend ""] a black-off would require the ability to dance and if jeff ever busted a move, the resulting pants shitting from laughter would destroy so many nice pants. |
| __________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 10:17am - sinistas ""] good point. |
| _______________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 10:18am - aaron_michael ""] I like Moe, and horror_tang was always friendly with me when I was in a band down the hall from his practice space, so I have no real say on this. I'm just confused by the rascist comments seeing as horror_tang never seemed to have a problem with me. |
| ____________________________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 10:20am - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""] powerkok said:[img] I used to have that one on the left. The first thing I did to it was put a huge fucking stick-shaped dent in it. Stick to the large Zilbell instead of the LP ones. You can never have enough icebell. |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 10:27am - the_reverend ""] aaron: no one is racist against us asians. sure, some times we lock them southern asians up in happy camps for a little while, but it's all in good fun. it's not like we take their businesses away from them. horror_tang love black people... well, at least black hookers, but that's only on pay day. this thread is still lame. |
| _________________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 10:28am - DreamingInExile ""] powerkok said:... and have capability to record everything but drums, so I look foward to that. well, if you're interested, I believe my friend is selling his V-Kit: http://www.rolandus.com/products/productde...tails.aspx?ObjectId=599&ParentId=60 yes, that's the $5500~$6000 TD-20S I'm not positive if he's selling it or not yet, but if you (or anyone is interested) I'll find out for you. it's all black (not white as pictured) and it's NEVER been played out. only been played a handful of times in his room (and once in my jamspace) it's in IMMACULATE condition, with all boxes/hardware/manuals. |
| ________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 10:37am - xmikex ""] I don't know Moe, and I've got nothing against him. But I heard... HEARD that he volunteers to pick cotton out of aspirin containers.... HEARD. I'm just sayin |
| _______________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 10:38am - aaron_michael ""] the_reverend said:aaron: no one is racist against us asians. sure, some times we lock them southern asians up in happy camps for a little while, but it's all in good fun. it's not like we take their businesses away from them. no shit. we make their cars, toys, computers, electronic sexual devices, medical supplies, etc.:whipper: |
| _____________________________ [Feb 6,2007 10:49am - mOe ""] horror_tang said:mOe said:YES i'm finally one of the RTTP elite...to have a hate thread made about me...man...this is truly an honor I'd like to thank anyone who's ever liked/hated me...i couldnt have done it without you. Especially guys like hoser, powerkok, how could i forget JOsh Martin...and most recently Horror Tang. A man who...i've never said a word to in person or on the internet until he started bashing me for god knows what reason. A man of valor. A man with pride. A man with...NOTHING else better to do. His lack of importance in this world has truly made this a wonderful day for me. Thanks *applause* mOe said:YES i'm finally one of the RTTP elite...to have a hate thread made about me...man...this is truly an honor I'd like to thank anyone who's ever liked/hated me...i couldnt have done it without you. Especially guys like hoser, powerkok, how could i forget JOsh Martin...and most recently Horror Tang. A man who...i've never said a word to in person or on the internet until he started bashing me for god knows what reason. A man of valor. A man with pride. A man with...NOTHING else better to do. His lack of importance in this world has truly made this a wonderful day for me. Thanks *applause* Oh, how soon we forget things. We have spoken face to face. I simply struck up a conversation with you when we played a show together in Providence with RK . I being a friendly guy like to talk to people in other bands that we're playing with. Truthfully, I never have problems with anyone except for the few people I fuck with. Otherwise, I get along with 95% of the people I have met over the years in the scene. Well, you were a dick to me for no reason. You came across with the biggest fucking rockstar attitude who looked to not have time for anyone except himself as you sat in the corner by yourself while the bands played. Way to support the scene. Well, I am willing to give everyone a second chance and maybe chalk it up to you having a bad day. Well, we played another show with you at the Chopping Block (RIP) and you came across as the same fucking prick to me and numerous others. So, now you are my enemy. I have found the best way to bash people is to state the obvious. The obvious is that you are about as Black as Wayne Brady. I can guarantee I know more about Black culture an history than you will ever know, and I am as white as can be. You are ignorant and a joke. There's your explanation. Go fuck yourself white boy! hahaha, you're the ONLY person i've ever heard tell me I acted like a rockstar prick at a show...just because i didnt care a shit for your awful band, doesnt make me a rockstar...it means i have an opinion...of your awful band |
| _____________________________ [Feb 6,2007 10:55am - mOe ""] and i've never EVER shyed away from a conversation with someone at a show unless they were either sketchy or a dick...REGARDLESS of how bad their band is...if i was in the corner for the whole show which I WHOLEHEARTEDLY doubt, it was because i was nursing the worse hangover I'd ever had, which was at that chopping block show you were talking about when you guys played with RK which was my first show with the band in MA. You're timeline is fucked up. RK played RI three times while i was in the band. Once at the living room, and twice at KC's tap. None of those times did your band play. And all of those times I was in the show watching bands for at least a song or two, If not the whole set while setting up. |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 11:36am - RichHorror ""] Nope. You played with RK at some VFW in Providence. On Smith Street, I think. But his timeline is all fucked up and wrong. I'm psyched about my band getting pulled into horseshit. |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 11:43am - the_reverend ""] rich, this is the internet and here, it's our band. |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 11:48am - RichHorror ""] Lucky you. |
| _____________________________ [Feb 6,2007 12:09pm - mOe ""] RichHorror said:Nope. You played with RK at some VFW in Providence. On Smith Street, I think. But his timeline is all fucked up and wrong. I'm psyched about my band getting pulled into horseshit. yea, i didnt get to that show until a band or two before RK because i drove up from New Jersey, for us only to play like 2 songs so if i was acting like a rock star about that, i apologize, someone forgot the Moet that I SPECIFICALLY demanded in my rider |
| ________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 12:10pm - xmikex ""] Horror Tang's fav video game [img] NAACP Smackdown |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 12:10pm - RichHorror ""] Calm down, Sally. I just agreed with you. |
| _________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 12:10pm - W3 nli ""] RichHorror said:Nope. You played with RK at some VFW in Providence. On Smith Street, I think. But his timeline is all fucked up and wrong. I'm psyched about my band getting pulled into horseshit. yup i put that show, its all true |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 12:10pm - RichHorror ""] [img] |
| _____________________________ [Feb 6,2007 12:13pm - mOe ""] RichHorror said:Calm down, Sally. I just agreed with you. i'm sorry, but you know how i get when i dont get the SIMPLE things i ask for |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 12:14pm - RichHorror ""] No I don't. I wasn't the one that had an imaginary conversation with you. |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 12:16pm - the_reverend ""] where the fuck are my shelled green m&ms? |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 12:18pm - RichHorror ""] The show in question we only played a few songs before I left because Sean failed to provide the entire DVD collection of 'Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In' that I requested. |
| _________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 12:18pm - W3 nli ""] the_reverend said:where the fuck are my shelled green m&ms? shaddafackapgawy dont you see some serious business is going down :point: |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 12:22pm - horror_tang ""] :hahaha, you're the ONLY person i've ever heard tell me I acted like a rockstar prick at a show...just because i didnt care a shit for your awful band, doesnt make me a rockstar...it means i have an opinion...of your awful band Listen prick, I am referring to you be a polesmoking rockstar. I was talking with you well before we even went on. So, your point that you "didn't care a shit for your awful band, doesn't make me a rockstar" makes no sense and lacks any logic. Also, you can keep Rich's band (which I left several months ago) the fuck out of this. Don't bite off more than you can chew. This is a conversation between the two of us. |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 12:23pm - RichHorror ""] horror_tang said:This is a conversation between the two of us. And a public messageboard. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 12:26pm - horror_tang ""] mOe said:RichHorror said:Nope. You played with RK at some VFW in Providence. On Smith Street, I think. But his timeline is all fucked up and wrong. I'm psyched about my band getting pulled into horseshit. yea, i didnt get to that show until a band or two before RK because i drove up from New Jersey, for us only to play like 2 songs so if i was acting like a rock star about that, i apologize, someone forgot the Moet that I SPECIFICALLY demanded in my rider Actually you are full of shit. I talked to you before the first band went on. |
| ___________________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 12:31pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] [img] |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 12:32pm - horror_tang ""] RichHorror said:No I don't. I wasn't the one that had an imaginary conversation with you. Was it imaginary? Was it during the Dark Times? Was I under the grasp of Dr. Al Praz? Please, tell me I did not imagine all of this. Damn you! Damn you to hell! Please, tell me I did not imagine Sean getting smacked by some broad. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 12:37pm - horror_tang ""] FuckIsMySignature said:[img] Wow, you are right. You've brought everything back into perspective. Life is not about petty arguments and self-loathing Black men. It is about man's neverending struggle to obtain, understand and love/hate the pootie. |
| _____________________________ [Feb 6,2007 12:40pm - mOe ""] horror_tang said:mOe said:RichHorror said:Nope. You played with RK at some VFW in Providence. On Smith Street, I think. But his timeline is all fucked up and wrong. I'm psyched about my band getting pulled into horseshit. yea, i didnt get to that show until a band or two before RK because i drove up from New Jersey, for us only to play like 2 songs so if i was acting like a rock star about that, i apologize, someone forgot the Moet that I SPECIFICALLY demanded in my rider Actually you are full of shit. I talked to you before the first band went on. whatever helps you sleep at night i specifically remember bands having already played by the time i got there i believe the only bands that played while i was at the show were TS and the departed...i think DC might have been playing as i pulled up?, but you're right....i think i'm done posting in this thread as well later |
| ________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 1:05pm - W3 nli ""] hey hey hey let's get this back to the real subject at hand, i got the state of Alaska thrown at me at that show. i also think a marching band tied my shoelaces together as well. |
| _________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 1:11pm - cav nli ""] that show was lots of fun....first hall show we ever played i think. that shit was our OLD school lineup too. |
| _________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 1:12pm - cav nli ""] and craig got so wasted he forgot all his vocal parts and just burped into the mic and fell on the ground followed by kriskubrick pouring beers in his mouth. haha good times! |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 1:16pm - Messerschmitt ""] an oreo cookie is in the lead |
| ________________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 1:52pm - ctb0rderpatrol ""] [img] |
| _________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 2:18pm - brian_dc ""] horror_tang said:mOe said:RichHorror said:Nope. You played with RK at some VFW in Providence. On Smith Street, I think. But his timeline is all fucked up and wrong. I'm psyched about my band getting pulled into horseshit. yea, i didnt get to that show until a band or two before RK because i drove up from New Jersey, for us only to play like 2 songs so if i was acting like a rock star about that, i apologize, someone forgot the Moet that I SPECIFICALLY demanded in my rider Actually you are full of shit. I talked to you before the first band went on. I know you don't think much of me, but I know that Moe was there late because no one from RK showed up in time to see the first band, which was my band (one of DC's first shows) |
| _____________________________ [Feb 6,2007 2:52pm - blue ""] the_reverend said:this thread is still lame. |
| __________________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 2:55pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] [img] |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 3:44pm - anonymous ""] Main Entry: rac·ism Pronunciation: 'rA-"si-z&m also -"shi- Function: noun 1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race 2 : racial prejudice or discrimination According to this definition from the Merriam-Webster dictionary, anyone who believes that a person of a certain race MUST ACT A CERTAIN WAY is indicative of a STEREOTYPE. I am surprised to see that no one has called the poster out on his/her obvious ignorance of the racist nature of stereotypes. Also, just because someone claims to "know more about" a certain ethnicity or the cultural implications of their history, does not necessarily make them "more [insert race here]" than anyone else. Seriously. Please go back to high school. Thanks. |
| _________________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 3:49pm - timmy porphyria ""] Moe is the man and the most down to earth non-rock star dude ever. You must be thinking of some other black dude drummer with dreads from NJ that licks his sticks and now resides in western MA...chump. And I still say he looks like KRS-One. Seacrest, OUT! |
| _________________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 3:54pm - timmy porphyria ""] anonymous said:Main Entry: rac·ism Pronunciation: 'rA-"si-z&m also -"shi- Function: noun 1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race 2 : racial prejudice or discrimination According to this definition from the Merriam-Webster dictionary, anyone who believes that a person of a certain race MUST ACT A CERTAIN WAY is indicative of a STEREOTYPE. I am surprised to see that no one has called the poster out on his/her obvious ignorance of the racist nature of stereotypes. Also, just because someone claims to "know more about" a certain ethnicity or the cultural implications of their history, does not necessarily make them "more [insert race here]" than anyone else. Seriously. Please go back to high school. Thanks. PWNED - When you "own" the shit out of someone on the internet you have to spell it with a "P" |
| ________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 4:23pm - W3 nli ""] actually timmy i think it's spelt out like this [img] |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 6:41pm - horror_tang ""] anonymous said:Main Entry: rac·ism Pronunciation: 'rA-"si-z&m also -"shi- Function: noun 1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race 2 : racial prejudice or discrimination According to this definition from the Merriam-Webster dictionary, anyone who believes that a person of a certain race MUST ACT A CERTAIN WAY is indicative of a STEREOTYPE. I am surprised to see that no one has called the poster out on his/her obvious ignorance of the racist nature of stereotypes. Also, just because someone claims to "know more about" a certain ethnicity or the cultural implications of their history, does not necessarily make them "more [insert race here]" than anyone else. Seriously. Please go back to high school. Thanks. Damn, a fucking dictionary. You got me there. Open up some real books and do some research on the subject. Stereotypes have nothing to do with this thread. I never said anyone needed to act a certain way to be seen as a being of a particular race. Racist nature of stereotypes? So, you're telling me it is racist if I were to assume that the Irish and Germans are drunkards. Or anonymous posters are complete and utter snatches afraid to divulge their identities for fear of who knows what. Go fuck a goat! |
| ______________________________ [Feb 6,2007 6:43pm - yummy ""] I'd say you got it right...about the anonymous posters |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 6:47pm - horror_tang ""] timmy porphyria said:Moe is the man and the most down to earth non-rock star dude ever. You must be thinking of some other black dude drummer with dreads from NJ that licks his sticks and now resides in western MA...chump. And I still say he looks like KRS-One. Seacrest, OUT! Chump? Who the fuck are you to call me a table-driven assembler and dissembler with a very fast new architecture input format. Go fuck a goat? |
| _________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 6:58pm - powerkok ""] Ummmm, whuuuuuuuuuuuuuut? |
| _________________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 7:14pm - timmy porphyria ""] horror_tang said:timmy porphyria said:Moe is the man and the most down to earth non-rock star dude ever. You must be thinking of some other black dude drummer with dreads from NJ that licks his sticks and now resides in western MA...chump. And I still say he looks like KRS-One. Seacrest, OUT! Chump? Who the fuck are you to call me a table-driven assembler and dissembler with a very fast new architecture input format. Go fuck a goat? hmmmmmmm......interesting.:yoda: |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 9:14pm - anonymous ""] I apologize for not disclosing my identity as I assumed it would only spark controversy. My name is Meghann Wright and I happen to feel that this post is in poor taste. I do not have an account with RTTP because I find that these forums are predominately of an ignorant and unsavory epithet. Unfortunately, I found myself drawn to this particular post as I feel compelled to defend those who are erroneously victimized. I posted the dictionary exerpt in hopes that I may succeed in at least partly remedying the poster's ignorance. However, I see that I cannot undo decades of miseducation and adulterated perceptions. Good luck to you. |
| _________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 9:20pm - brian_dc ""] hi Meg! |
| ___________________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 9:38pm - ConquerTheBaphomet ""] I think this thread is pretty much horror_tang bitching about some dude that he'll never talk to on a regular basis. I think the whining on this forum has reached it's boiling point. I think you need to grow up and stop calling Moe out on his blackness or lack of. That is complete ignorance and just plain juvenile. Seriously, shut the fuck up. |
| ____________________________ [Feb 6,2007 9:56pm - Dar ""] horror_tang said: So, you're telling me it is racist if I were to assume that the Irish and Germans are drunkards. Or anonymous posters are complete and utter snatches afraid to divulge their identities for fear of who knows what. Go fuck a goat! Uhh, yes, if you meet an irish person and assume they are a drunkard that would be a perfect example of racism I can't tell if I'm missing some kind of sarcastic angle that would make what you wrote made sense or if you're just so stunningly dumb that that definition of racism doesn't make sense to you |
| _______________________________ [Feb 7,2007 12:16am - yummy ""] so...if you only go down on white guys does that make you a racist? |
| __________________________________ [Feb 7,2007 12:24am - powerkok ""] [img] SHADDUP, DINGBAT |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 7,2007 11:28am - horror_tang ""] anonymous said:I apologize for not disclosing my identity as I assumed it would only spark controversy. My name is Meghann Wright and I happen to feel that this post is in poor taste. I do not have an account with RTTP because I find that these forums are predominately of an ignorant and unsavory epithet. Unfortunately, I found myself drawn to this particular post as I feel compelled to defend those who are erroneously victimized. I posted the dictionary exerpt in hopes that I may succeed in at least partly remedying the poster's ignorance. However, I see that I cannot undo decades of miseducation and adulterated perceptions. Good luck to you. Well, I bet you think you are always Wright, too. Ha,ha! "I found myself drawn to this particular post as I feel compelled to defend those who are erroneously victimized." So, you are saying that the Black man cannot defend himself when victimized and needs a white person to come to their rescue. Well, that is the most racist comment in this entire thread. I come onto this board to stir things up and get people debating and you completely cross the line. You Meghann are the one who needs to take a look in the mirror. |
| ______________________________ [Feb 7,2007 11:33am - Lamp ""] I can't believe anybody is actually taking this thread seriously. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 7,2007 11:36am - horror_tang ""] ConquerTheBaphomet said:I think this thread is pretty much horror_tang bitching about some dude that he'll never talk to on a regular basis. I think the whining on this forum has reached it's boiling point. I think you need to grow up and stop calling Moe out on his blackness or lack of. That is complete ignorance and just plain juvenile. Seriously, shut the fuck up. Hey, there tough guy. You can shut me up anytime we cross paths. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 7,2007 11:45am - horror_tang ""] Dar said:horror_tang said: So, you're telling me it is racist if I were to assume that the Irish and Germans are drunkards. Or anonymous posters are complete and utter snatches afraid to divulge their identities for fear of who knows what. Go fuck a goat! Uhh, yes, if you meet an irish person and assume they are a drunkard that would be a perfect example of racism I can't tell if I'm missing some kind of sarcastic angle that would make what you wrote made sense or if you're just so stunningly dumb that that definition of racism doesn't make sense to you Wow, I cannot believe I am debating the issue. Uhh, no, if you meet an irish person and assume they are a drunkard that would be a perfect example of a belief in a stereotype. Racism deals with race. Being Irish is you heritage. Stereotypes can deal with race, heritage, ethnicity, sex, etc. Do not enter a debate with me until you have at least a little bit of knowledge on the subject. You are prime example for the need to bring back state mandated eugenics laws. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 7,2007 11:47am - horror_tang ""] yummy said:so...if you only go down on white guys does that make you a racist? This is where this thread should be. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 7,2007 12:00pm - horror_tang ""] Lamp said:I can't believe anybody is actually taking this thread seriously. Actually it is a proven fact that whites that take offense to what they they perceive as being racist are, indeed, more likely to harbor racist beliefs. Another interesting fact. The majority of hate crimes are not committed by members of hate groups, but by you average 20-something middle class white male. Hmmmm, which would be the same demographic of those that frequent the board. |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 7,2007 12:02pm - RichHorror ""] I commit a hate crime everytime I masturbate. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 7,2007 12:12pm - horror_tang ""] Actually, according to Dar you are doing this every time you beat your Irish cock. |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 7,2007 12:13pm - RichHorror ""] I just said that. |
| ____________________________________________ [Feb 7,2007 12:33pm - ConquerTheBaphomet ""] horror_tang said:ConquerTheBaphomet said:I think this thread is pretty much horror_tang bitching about some dude that he'll never talk to on a regular basis. I think the whining on this forum has reached it's boiling point. I think you need to grow up and stop calling Moe out on his blackness or lack of. That is complete ignorance and just plain juvenile. Seriously, shut the fuck up. Hey, there tough guy. You can shut me up anytime we cross paths. Are you threatening me over the Internet? Are you like 14 years old? Look dude, all I'm saying is this whole thing is a cry for attention or something. No one cares about how you think you were treated by someone you don't even know. Are you gonna suck his cock or something? Get over yourself, you little prick. |
| _______________________________________ [Feb 7,2007 12:34pm - Messerschmitt ""] bunnnnnnnghole |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 7,2007 12:36pm - RichHorror ""] ConquerTheBaphomet said:Are you gonna suck his cock or something? That would be HOT. |
| ______________________________ [Feb 7,2007 12:43pm - Lamp ""] ConquerTheBaphomet said:Are you threatening me over the Internet? Are you like 14 years old? Look dude, all I'm saying is this whole thing is a cry for attention or something. No one cares about how you think you were treated by someone you don't even know. Are you gonna suck his cock or something? Get over yourself, you little prick. Someone who makes the most forced sounding replies available on an Internet message board is telling someone else they're on some attention-whoring rampage! :shocked::shocked: Lighten the fuck up, it's not your problem unless you make it your problem...and that goes for EVERYONE getting offended by this thread, including the person being targeted. If you're all so butt hurt, maybe if you'd just leave it alone instead of whine about it, the problem would go away. It's an Internet message board. Do you really get that offended by what someone says online enough to pay any attention to it? Though I will say getting agitated that someone didn't want to talk to you at a show brings the ghei hard and fast. Everyone needs to fuckin' kick back and laugh about nothing! |
| ____________________________________________ [Feb 7,2007 12:52pm - ConquerTheBaphomet ""] Lamp said:ConquerTheBaphomet said:Are you threatening me over the Internet? Are you like 14 years old? Look dude, all I'm saying is this whole thing is a cry for attention or something. No one cares about how you think you were treated by someone you don't even know. Are you gonna suck his cock or something? Get over yourself, you little prick. Someone who makes the most forced sounding replies available on an Internet message board is telling someone else they're on some attention-whoring rampage! :shocked::shocked: What the hell does that mean? You think my replies are bullshit? I think you read way too much into this. |
| ______________________________ [Feb 7,2007 12:54pm - Lamp ""] I can tell by your posts that you're trying way too hard to fit in by looking like a hardass when in all reality you're just a subserviant little douche. No such thing as reading way too much into someone's personality either, at least I'm thinking, unless you want me to go do something more productive like watch TV or masturbate. :spineyes: |
| _______________________________________ [Feb 7,2007 2:49pm - Dissector NLI ""] Lamp > ConquerTheBaphomet |
| ________________________________________ [Feb 7,2007 2:55pm - iren_the_viking ""] whites > blacks |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 7,2007 2:56pm - RichHorror ""] When you don't talk to Jeff it makes his empty life somehow emptier. |
| ____________________________ [Feb 7,2007 3:36pm - Dar ""] horror_tang said: Wow, I cannot believe I am debating the issue. Uhh, no, if you meet an irish person and assume they are a drunkard that would be a perfect example of a belief in a stereotype. Racism deals with race. Being Irish is you heritage. Stereotypes can deal with race, heritage, ethnicity, sex, etc. Do not enter a debate with me until you have at least a little bit of knowledge on the subject. You are prime example for the need to bring back state mandated eugenics laws. Yes, racism deals with race. Thanks for enlightening me. I'm not sure how you can seperate someones heritage and someones race, though. Anytime you make an assumption about somebody based on who their parents were, it's RACISM. Are you saying if I go around assuming every black person I meet loves fried chicken, I'm not being racist, I'm just believing in a stereotype based on their heritage? A stereotype is nothing but a COMMONLY HELD discriminatory practice. |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 7,2007 3:58pm - RichHorror ""] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4t3yvo-r9pI&eurl= |
| ____________________________ [Feb 7,2007 4:04pm - Dar ""] let me correct myself, when I said based on who their parents were I should have been more specific...of course, if you didn't vote for George W Bush in 2000 because you didn't like his father, that's not racism. you probably know what I meant, but i just wanted to head that one of at the pass |
| ___________________________________________ [Feb 7,2007 4:13pm - ConquerTheBaphomet ""] Lamp said:I can tell by your posts that you're trying way too hard to fit in by looking like a hardass when in all reality you're just a subserviant little douche. No such thing as reading way too much into someone's personality either, at least I'm thinking, unless you want me to go do something more productive like watch TV or masturbate. :spineyes: I couldn't care any less about being accepted on a friggin' message board. I'm not Leigh. You don't know me in person so your opinions about me mean nothing. Go watch TV or masturbate. |
| __________________________________ [Feb 7,2007 4:15pm - dreadkill ""] horror tang is bigger than conquer the baphomet, a whole lot bigger. he is a big scary man. |
| _____________________________ [Feb 7,2007 4:16pm - Lamp ""] ConquerTheBaphomet said:I couldn't care any less about being accepted on a friggin' message board. I'm not Leigh. You don't know me in person so your opinions about me mean nothing. Funny you should mention you're not Leigh, because she said stuff like that all the time on this message board. (you don't even know me wah wah wah i put on shows for myself not for you) |
| ___________________________________________ [Feb 7,2007 4:31pm - ConquerTheBaphomet ""] Lamp said:ConquerTheBaphomet said:I couldn't care any less about being accepted on a friggin' message board. I'm not Leigh. You don't know me in person so your opinions about me mean nothing. Funny you should mention you're not Leigh, because she said stuff like that all the time on this message board. (you don't even know me wah wah wah i put on shows for myself not for you) Like I'm really sitting here crying about this. Give me a break. Take a little break from playing World of Warcraft, get off the Internet and find a girl desperate enough to let you take pictures of her for your fascinating and bizzare fantasies. I'm not going to sit here and argue with the likes of you. Do us a favor and grow up. |
| _____________________________ [Feb 7,2007 4:37pm - Lamp ""] You may not be crying yet, but if you keep getting pissy at all my replies like you are now, I bet I can make you cry dude. You assume I play World of Warcraft? What good are broad generalizations in an argument after all? I said nothing about you that I based on stereotypes of people who like to fight on the computer. And what do you mean by grow up anyway? Sit here and listen to everything you say? Take it in and soak it up as fact? Basically, you want me to be your bitch, right? Concede this argument to you for no real reason other than a false sense of intimidation? Is that what it means to grow up? If so, then growing up's for fucking fags. And if you're not going to sit here and argue with me, prove it. You've failed miserably so far. |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 7,2007 4:51pm - horror_tang ""] ConquerTheBaphomet said:horror_tang said:ConquerTheBaphomet said:I think this thread is pretty much horror_tang bitching about some dude that he'll never talk to on a regular basis. I think the whining on this forum has reached it's boiling point. I think you need to grow up and stop calling Moe out on his blackness or lack of. That is complete ignorance and just plain juvenile. Seriously, shut the fuck up. Hey, there tough guy. You can shut me up anytime we cross paths. Are you threatening me over the Internet? Are you like 14 years old? Look dude, all I'm saying is this whole thing is a cry for attention or something. No one cares about how you think you were treated by someone you don't even know. Are you gonna suck his cock or something? Get over yourself, you little prick. Hey, you told me to shut the fuck up. Well, that sure is some tough guy talk. Did I threaten you? Hell, no. You seem to be the one with all the anger built up that wants to fight. I'm just telling you to put up or shut up. You want to talk to tough, but suddenly you get called on it and I am doing the threatening. |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 7,2007 5:06pm - horror_tang ""] Lamp said: Though I will say getting agitated that someone didn't want to talk to you at a show brings the ghei hard and fast. Everyone needs to fuckin' kick back and laugh about nothing! Actually, I look for reasons to hate people. Once a guy at Harvard Square didn't hand me a flyer. I hate him very much. |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 7,2007 5:08pm - horror_tang ""] ConquerTheBaphomet said:What the hell does that mean? You think my replies are bullshit? Wow, more tough guy posturing. |
| ___________________________________________ [Feb 7,2007 5:14pm - ConquerTheBaphomet ""] horror_tang said:ConquerTheBaphomet said:horror_tang said:ConquerTheBaphomet said:I think this thread is pretty much horror_tang bitching about some dude that he'll never talk to on a regular basis. I think the whining on this forum has reached it's boiling point. I think you need to grow up and stop calling Moe out on his blackness or lack of. That is complete ignorance and just plain juvenile. Seriously, shut the fuck up. Hey, there tough guy. You can shut me up anytime we cross paths. Are you threatening me over the Internet? Are you like 14 years old? Look dude, all I'm saying is this whole thing is a cry for attention or something. No one cares about how you think you were treated by someone you don't even know. Are you gonna suck his cock or something? Get over yourself, you little prick. Hey, you told me to shut the fuck up. Well, that sure is some tough guy talk. Did I threaten you? Hell, no. You seem to be the one with all the anger built up that wants to fight. I'm just telling you to put up or shut up. You want to talk to tough, but suddenly you get called on it and I am doing the threatening. Unlike you, I don't need to fight people to prove myself. And if given the opprotunity, I would be happy to. |
| _______________________________ [Feb 7,2007 5:20pm - Kevord ""] Wow, I wouldn't make enemies with Jeff for no reason. |
| ___________________________________________ [Feb 7,2007 5:22pm - ConquerTheBaphomet ""] This is just going to turn into a big flame war and everyone is going to try and get in their witty comments and comebacks. Woopie-do. |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 7,2007 5:24pm - anonymous ""] FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT! |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 7,2007 5:24pm - horror_tang ""] Dar said: Yes, racism deals with race. Thanks for enlightening me. I'm not sure how you can seperate someones heritage and someones race, though. Anytime you make an assumption about somebody based on who their parents were, it's RACISM. Are you saying if I go around assuming every black person I meet loves fried chicken, I'm not being racist, I'm just believing in a stereotype based on their heritage? A stereotype is nothing but a COMMONLY HELD discriminatory practice. Wow, you're the one calling me ignorant. If you continue believing that stereotype about Blacks it does not make you racist, that is part of your belief system. Stereotypes can be based on beliefs related to a person's race, heritage, sex, sexuality, etc. For instance, if I were to believe in the stereotype that women are stupid and irrational that would be ignorance on my part. That would not be racist or even sexist. If I refused to hire you because you are a woman then that would make me sexist. If I were to beat you that would make me a coward. If I were to beat you because you are a woman then I would be a sexist and a coward. Even if I were a member of the Aryan Nation and I got into an argument over a parking space and beat up a Black man that would not be a hate crime. However, if I beat up a Black man because he is Black then that would be a hate crime. You really need to open up a few books and do a little research on the subject before you post. You are ignorant to the subject and can only offer opinions. Debate me if you must. |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 7,2007 5:28pm - Messerschmitt ""] RichHorror said:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4t3yvo-r9pI&eurl= hahaha i was born in the wrong fucking decade. ahahaha. |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 7,2007 5:31pm - horror_tang ""] ConquerTheBaphomet said:.Unlike you, I don't need to fight people to prove myself. And if given the opprotunity, I would be happy to. Oh my goodness. The little fella threatened me. That's so cute. I want buy you a teddy bear or something. |
| ___________________________________________ [Feb 7,2007 6:16pm - ConquerTheBaphomet ""] horror_tang said:ConquerTheBaphomet said:.Unlike you, I don't need to fight people to prove myself. And if given the opprotunity, I would be happy to. Oh my goodness. The little fella threatened me. That's so cute. I want buy you a teddy bear or something. I'm hardly little. |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 7,2007 6:18pm - Messerschmitt ""] ConquerTheBaphomet said:horror_tang said:ConquerTheBaphomet said:.Unlike you, I don't need to fight people to prove myself. And if given the opprotunity, I would be happy to. Oh my goodness. The little fella threatened me. That's so cute. I want buy you a teddy bear or something. I'm hardly little. trust me, you're little. just shut the fuck up. |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 7,2007 6:19pm - horror_tang ""] I know. I know. You're a big boy now. I'm sorry. I think someone wants ice cream. |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 7,2007 6:21pm - Messerschmitt ""] i think he wants a crucifix shoved up his arse |
| ____________________________ [Feb 7,2007 6:36pm - mOe ""] I didn't say he couldn't defend himself. I said I was on his side. You truly are stunningly unobservant. - Meghann Wright |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 7,2007 6:37pm - Messerschmitt ""] voooo doooo you doooooo? |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 7,2007 6:45pm - horror_tang ""] Meghann never said anything about defending Moe in either of her posts. No mention of his name at all. Posting under Moe's account just seems like you are trying harder to prove you are not racist. Your post brings to mind when people say shit like "I'm not racist. I've got Black friends." or "I'm not racist or anything, but..." |
| ___________________________________________ [Feb 7,2007 6:52pm - ConquerTheBaphomet ""] Messerschmitt said:ConquerTheBaphomet said:horror_tang said:ConquerTheBaphomet said:.Unlike you, I don't need to fight people to prove myself. And if given the opprotunity, I would be happy to. Oh my goodness. The little fella threatened me. That's so cute. I want buy you a teddy bear or something. I'm hardly little. trust me, you're little. just shut the fuck up. Did you think of that all by yourself? |
| ______________________________ [Feb 7,2007 7:26pm - yummy ""] I have this friend....and he was holding a door for people going into a convenience store, then I, I mean, HE let the door go and the door hit a white guy as he let it go. Am he racist against whites? |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 7,2007 7:29pm - RichHorror ""] Or against doors. Or The Doors. |
| ______________________________ [Feb 7,2007 7:31pm - yummy ""] the doors are fine but fuck doors |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 7,2007 7:31pm - RichHorror ""] Fuck brids. |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 7,2007 7:56pm - anonymous ""] please disregard my posting under moe's name. it was an accident. we live in the same house and i was on his computer and forgot to log him out. my bad. i hope it didn't make you cry too much. - Meghann |
| ________________________________________ [Feb 7,2007 8:22pm - babyshaker nli ""] hahah i love these threads people fighting makes my soul smile |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 8,2007 8:36am - horror_tang ""] ConquerTheBaphomet said:Did you think of that all by yourself? >> WWJD |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 8,2007 8:40am - horror_tang ""] anonymous said:please disregard my posting under moe's name. it was an accident. we live in the same house and i was on his computer and forgot to log him out. my bad. i hope it didn't make you cry too much. - Meghann Oh, it was no accident. Now you're just trying to rationalize your behavior. You are still racist and trying to hide it. Oh, and by the way, I did cry. In fact, I cried so much I just tossed my pillow in the dryer. |
| __________________________________________ [Feb 8,2007 9:14am - FuckIsMySignature ""] yes, what would jepetto do? |
| _________________________________ [Feb 8,2007 9:21am - sinistas ""] Taking a Jeff thread seriously is what's causing the downfall of the white race. SAVE THE WHITEFOLK~! |
| ___________________________________________ [Feb 8,2007 10:48am - FuckIsMySignature ""] Kill all the White People... Then we'll be free. Whoooaaaaa |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 8,2007 2:01pm - horror_tang ""] sinistas said:Taking a Jeff thread seriously is what's causing the downfall of the white race. SAVE THE WHITEFOLK~! Amen! |