Mccain Picks hott slut as running mate[views:67069][posts:259]____________________________________ [Sep 1,2008 3:27pm - Josh_Martin ""] . |
| ____________________________________ [Sep 1,2008 3:27pm - Josh_Martin ""] rev you have got to fix this gay double and triple posting. |
| ________________________________________ [Sep 1,2008 3:47pm - Conservationist ""] Jeffrey Carreras is staying for more practical reasons. His Garden District restaurant, Parasol's, was looted after he evacuated for Katrina. "I have shotguns, rifles - I collect guns actually," he said. "So I have plenty of guns in there, plenty on ammo." ... Hattie Callan, 36, weaved her way down the street Sunday, a vodka drink already in her hand and it only 9:20 in the morning. She was staying behind to watch over several houses, and she wasn't worried. "I've got liquor, cash, food, ammo and weed," she said as she floated out of sight. http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/G/GUSTAV_LEFT_BEHIND?SITE=AP [img] |
| _________________________________ [Sep 1,2008 5:17pm - Dankill ""] pam said:Ooooh I just saw that the daughter is knocked now...lol. Hilarious. http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/09/01/politics/horserace/entry4404184.shtml Now she's about as big a whore as Obama's mom, who did the same damn thing. |
| ____________________________ [Sep 1,2008 7:28pm - pam ""] Dankill said: pam said:Ooooh I just saw that the daughter is knocked now...lol. Hilarious. http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/09/01/politics/horserace/entry4404184.shtml Now she's about as big a whore as Obama's mom, who did the same damn thing. Hey asshole. I had my daughter at 17. I was saying it was hilarious because her mother wants all forms of birth control banned and touts her perfect family moral family values bullshit like a fucking badge. And because the right wing just couldn't shut up about Britney Spears' sister and what an example of the downfall of America pregnant teens are...NOT because a grown ass girl got pregnant with her boyfriend's kid. :middlefinger: |
| _____________________________________ [Sep 1,2008 7:38pm - the_reverend ""] she's like the anti-hillary canidate. |
| ____________________________ [Sep 1,2008 7:41pm - pam ""] the_reverend said:she's like the anti-hillary canidate. She is, but it doesn't matter. The retards taking their ball and going home because Obama won will probably still vote for her. |
| _____________________________________ [Sep 1,2008 7:46pm - the_reverend ""] if mccain wins I will have less respect for this country than when bush won 2nd time. |
| _________________________________ [Sep 1,2008 8:07pm - mortalis ""] the_reverend said:if mccain wins I will have less respect for this country than when bush won 2nd time. it's almost laughable that mccain might win after the past 8 years. bush has a record low approval rating, so...we'll elect someone who voted with him 90% of the time? really? all you can do is laugh. |
| _________________________________ [Sep 1,2008 9:08pm - Dankill ""] pam said: Dankill said: pam said:Ooooh I just saw that the daughter is knocked now...lol. Hilarious. http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/09/01/politics/horserace/entry4404184.shtml Now she's about as big a whore as Obama's mom, who did the same damn thing. Hey asshole. I had my daughter at 17. I was saying it was hilarious because her mother wants all forms of birth control banned and touts her perfect family moral family values bullshit like a fucking badge. And because the right wing just couldn't shut up about Britney Spears' sister and what an example of the downfall of America pregnant teens are...NOT because a grown ass girl got pregnant with her boyfriend's kid. :middlefinger: Pam, that wasn't to bash on either, or you for that matter. My sarcastic humor didn't carry here. My point was to point out the hypocrisy of people who would trash this girl yet don't see the irony with how she is in pretty much the same situation as Obama's own mother was. Which is probably why he'd also want to keep far away from any attacks towards Palin's daughter. Plus, I don't assume it's just the right wing that would have a shitfit about Britney Spears's sister. As far as I'm concerned, it's dumb people in general. I'm sure there were also plenty of libs that would also look down their noses at her as white trash who yet somehow impacts the lives of a lot of kids. It's crap either way. Palin can believe what she wants. I just don't see the fear yet of woman's reproductive rights going out the window like everyone has been screaming about for years now. Weren't they supposed to have been burned to the ground somewhere in the past eight years, right along with the draft coming back? You can hold up a value as being perfect. The problem is people are not perfect. Hence why I don't care what your values are, you will make mistakes and you will fuck up. I just don't see anything to show that she was truly so arrogant to have placed herself on a pedestal and claim herself as superior to anyone, no more then anyone else that believes what she does, or any other religious person. I have seen those who do, including jews and muslims, from personal experence. If she did, she pays for it by ignoring the tenets of humility that are taught as an actual principle of christians, to her own folly. If she didn't, then she's just as much a victim as if you had people who would say, based on your personal experience, that not only are you a mess because you had a kid out of wedlock at 17, but that your parents are as well and that if they had any form of moral code, religious or not, that they should be condemned for it because they turned out to be "below it". I'd see it as just as cruel and wrong. |
| _____________________________________ [Sep 1,2008 9:30pm - the_reverend ""] how the fuck did her daughter find the only black dude in alaska? [img] |
| _____________________________________ [Sep 1,2008 9:30pm - the_reverend ""] [img] |
| __________________________________________ [Sep 1,2008 9:33pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] hahahahaha fucking awesome |
| _________________________________ [Sep 1,2008 9:55pm - Dankill ""] the_reverend said:how the fuck did her daughter find the only black dude in alaska? [img] Holy crap, now she really IS like Obama's mom. |
| _________________________________________ [Sep 1,2008 10:19pm - Conservationist ""] Dankill said:Hence why I don't care what your values are, you will make mistakes and you will fuck up. I just don't see anything to show that she was truly so arrogant to have placed herself on a pedestal and claim herself as superior to anyone, no more then anyone else that believes what she does, or any other religious person. Misinformed people like to conflate "taking a stand that isn't popular" with some form of humility violation. The Crowd(tm) hates humility violations. |
| _________________________________________ [Sep 1,2008 10:21pm - Conservationist ""] pam said:I was saying it was hilarious because her mother wants all forms of birth control banned and touts her perfect family moral family values bullshit like a fucking badge. So if your kid screws up, it was because you were a hypocrite? |
| _______________________________ [Sep 1,2008 10:37pm - Murph ""] Conservationist said: pam said:I was saying it was hilarious because her mother wants all forms of birth control banned and touts her perfect family moral family values bullshit like a fucking badge. So if your kid screws up, it was because you were a hypocrite? Really, it doesn't matter much to me, but if you're about to tote policies that enforce a "Christian" sense of lifestyle, having your unwed teenage daughter be pregnant is not exactly the best PR. In a liberal sense it could be an application for 'incredible' family strength and devotion to 'progressive' parenting, however, in Palin's case it's a blemish. She's not being hypocritical because her daughter made a choice outside of her supposed rearing, but rather her daughter made a choice that does not coincide with her beliefs. Most of the time that wouldn't matter, unless the person promulgating such beliefs is allowing them to consciously affect one of the largest political arenas in the world. Palin should come under criticism here not because of her daughter's pregnancy, but because that pregnancy invalidates her platform, ie strong 'moral' education SHOULD lead to 'better' sexual, hence pre-parental choice. There's no need to be linear in our thinking here: it's not Palin's deal her daughter is pregnant, her daughter fucked the guy. It is a reminder, however, that people make choices and to be so doctrinal about such decisions is novelty. Shit happens, why not be liberal in such a sense and make things easier, not harder. |
| __________________________________ [Sep 1,2008 10:47pm - brian_dc ""] All political discourse aside, what are Alaskan teenagers supposed to do other than fuck each other raw? |
| _______________________________ [Sep 1,2008 10:51pm - Murph ""] brian_dc said:All political discourse aside, what are Alaskan teenagers supposed to do other than fuck each other raw? No lie, this is the first image that appeared on google images when searching 'Alaskan teenagers.' [img] |
| __________________________________ [Sep 1,2008 10:55pm - brian_dc ""] I just got SERVED |
| _________________________________________ [Sep 1,2008 11:43pm - Conservationist ""] Murph said:Really, it doesn't matter much to me, but if you're about to tote policies that enforce a "Christian" sense of lifestyle, having your unwed teenage daughter be pregnant is not exactly the best PR. This policy of yours rewards those who have the lowest standards, doesn't it? |
| _______________________________ [Sep 1,2008 11:50pm - Murph ""] Conservationist said: Murph said:Really, it doesn't matter much to me, but if you're about to tote policies that enforce a "Christian" sense of lifestyle, having your unwed teenage daughter be pregnant is not exactly the best PR. This policy of yours rewards those who have the lowest standards, doesn't it? No policy of mine. In fact, I was glossing the fact that to most streamlined Christians, having a candidate they relate to whose somewhat young, wholly unmarried daughter is pregnant might not be the best PR. Who knows, Palin might end up being an amazing VP should she win, and perhaps even a competent and definitely a historic and aesthetic President should McCain succumb to the grave. I just think it's a tough game, and for someone who was so recently nominated it is perhaps not the best news/publicity. You and your perception of 'low standards.' Your introspection must be quite limiting. |
| ______________________________________ [Sep 1,2008 11:56pm - Hungtableed ""] Politics & Political Parties = Gangs & Gang Colors. They're all fags...they're all power hungry whores. |
| ______________________________________ [Sep 1,2008 11:57pm - Hungtableed ""] ...wear it on your sleeve...EVERYONE WILL LIKE YOU |
| _______________________________ [Sep 2,2008 12:01am - Murph ""] Hungtableed said:...wear it on your sleeve...EVERYONE WILL LIKE YOU For someone who wants to give the country 'back' to natives, you should take a look at the indigenous tribes of New Guinea. These people are some of the most independent in the world, and are also some of the most violent and haranguing of anything outside of their own. Really, it doesn't matter how centralized the power becomes, the band lifestyle pervades because, as our Conservationist pointed out, there is not a lot of innovation in the human race. |
| _________________________________________ [Sep 2,2008 12:17am - Conservationist ""] Hungtableed said:...wear it on your sleeve...EVERYONE WILL LIKE YOU People prefer Pleasant Illusions to Difficult Realities... that's for sure. Saying "I am a Democrat" or "I am a liberal" (etc) is far more people-pleasing than trying to explain fixes to a dying civilization. |
| _______________________________ [Sep 2,2008 3:13am - zyklon ""] Hey reverend can you please delete this stupid thread? it's getting really old..................................... |
| _________________________________ [Sep 2,2008 8:38am - brian_dc ""] actually, there are a couple of people legitimately debating in here. Without calling each other faggots and everything. Thread stays, you go. |
| _________________________________ [Sep 2,2008 8:44am - Dankill ""] Eskimos can move Murph said: Conservationist said: pam said:I was saying it was hilarious because her mother wants all forms of birth control banned and touts her perfect family moral family values bullshit like a fucking badge. So if your kid screws up, it was because you were a hypocrite? Really, it doesn't matter much to me, but if you're about to tote policies that enforce a "Christian" sense of lifestyle, having your unwed teenage daughter be pregnant is not exactly the best PR. In a liberal sense it could be an application for 'incredible' family strength and devotion to 'progressive' parenting, however, in Palin's case it's a blemish. She's not being hypocritical because her daughter made a choice outside of her supposed rearing, but rather her daughter made a choice that does not coincide with her beliefs. Most of the time that wouldn't matter, unless the person promulgating such beliefs is allowing them to consciously affect one of the largest political arenas in the world. Palin should come under criticism here not because of her daughter's pregnancy, but because that pregnancy invalidates her platform, ie strong 'moral' education SHOULD lead to 'better' sexual, hence pre-parental choice. There's no need to be linear in our thinking here: it's not Palin's deal her daughter is pregnant, her daughter fucked the guy. It is a reminder, however, that people make choices and to be so doctrinal about such decisions is novelty. Shit happens, why not be liberal in such a sense and make things easier, not harder. You're partly right. The real thing to determine if she really blew it would be what she did once she got knocked up. If Palin tried to sweep it under the rug and let her daughter get an abortion, THEN she would be a hypocrite all day long, going against everything she holds up as her personal beliefs. But because the daughter is having the kid AND marrying the father, you're seeing the religious groups praising it because they consider that the right thing to do on both counts. I honestly don't know how much this is gonna hurt McCain/Palin, if at all. I mean, Chaney has a gay daughter who not long ago had a baby of her own with her partner and that didn't stop him keeping his job. |
| _________________________________ [Sep 2,2008 9:02am - Dankill ""] BTW UPDATE! [img] http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/r...lins_pregnancy_was_an_open_sec.html That's dad. |
| _________________________________ [Sep 2,2008 9:14am - brian_dc ""] looks like a real thumbhead |
| _____________________________________ [Sep 2,2008 9:21am - SkinSandwich ""] Looks about as smart as a box of hammers. |
| ________________________________________ [Sep 2,2008 9:38am - Conservationist ""] Dankill said:I mean, Chaney has a gay daughter who not long ago had a baby of her own with her partner and that didn't stop him keeping his job. Generally, conservatives are less critical of screwups by politicians and more critical of a lack of taking a stand. If you hold yourself to what you view as a higher standard, you recognize there are going to be failings; conservatives perceive liberals hold themselves to a lower standard because they are afraid of screwing up. Liberals tend to believe that government has a greater influence on the individual, where conservatives tend to see government as demographics. It's an entirely different view. Of course, there are some, including author Tom Wolfe, who refer to liberalism as "a fashion" and I think there's some sense in this: it is more socially-driven than conservatism. If political views were college courses, liberalism would be black studies or literature; conservatism would be engineering or computer science. I think liberalism will always be popular, but not among those who make their own way, because it does have some reality-denying aspects. Many Americans do not like the idea of government being literally in their lives, or regulating what is positive behavior instead of simply banning the biggest negative behaviors. Further, many people are wondering what the successes of liberalism are. We still have the same problems it claimed to address, and many of its greatest successes, like child labor laws, were penned by people who today would be considered conservatives. There are of course fringe groups on both sides. On the left, there are the race cult lunatics and mainstream anarchists, and on the right, we have various groups who make issues like abortion seem more important than issues like national defense. These are relatively small groups but politicians continue to pander to them, mainly because these politicians have no discernible platform other than conformity to how the system works with some conservative or liberal flavor. Obama, I am looking at you here... Left and right join in some interesting movements. Comunitarianism/localism. Anarcho-primitivism, traditionalism. And their oldest convergence, National Socialism. |
| ______________________________________ [Sep 2,2008 10:30am - orgymf@work ""] Conservationist said: orgymf@work said:both candidates suck. everyone should have backed Ron Paul no more I.R.S. Closed Borders No Federal Reserve Back To The Gold Standard No More Birthright Citizenship. End Affirmative Action + HUD and it's a deal. i think he was behind those ideas as well....but didn't say it in public because people already accused him of being a racist for wanting to crack down on open borders/illegal immigration... you know how those dipshits in the liberal media love to twist shit around. |
| ________________________________ [Sep 2,2008 11:09am - zyklon ""] brian_dc said:actually, there are a couple of people legitimately debating in here. Without calling each other faggots and everything. Thread stays, you go. I say it goes |
| __________________________________ [Sep 2,2008 11:11am - brian_dc ""] make your case for why it should go |
| ________________________________ [Sep 2,2008 11:15am - zyklon ""] OK the thread stays |
| _________________________________________ [Sep 2,2008 11:16am - Conservationist ""] orgymf@work said:i think he was behind those ideas as well....but didn't say it in public because people already accused him of being a racist for wanting to crack down on open borders/illegal immigration... you know how those dipshits in the liberal media love to twist shit around. This is probably true. I think a lot of people, black and white, want HUD and Affirmative Action to end. For successful black people, the ghetto is an embarassment and a constant threat -- they don't want their kids dating Those People either. |
| ________________________________ [Sep 2,2008 11:19am - zyklon ""] Dude not everyone living in the ghetto is a fucking criminal |
| _________________________________________ [Sep 2,2008 11:31am - Conservationist ""] I agree, but they're also not making it out of the ghetto except in a very, very small number of cases. |
| ______________________________ [Sep 2,2008 2:55pm - READ ""] I heard before they started talking how she is pregnant that palin's new born was actually her daughters kid. Here come the lies already. Maybe their plane will hit a mountain. |
| _________________________________ [Sep 2,2008 2:57pm - brian_dc ""] conspiracy theory based on a teenager having some tub to her |
| ______________________________ [Sep 2,2008 3:06pm - READ ""] http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-69834 |
| _________________________________ [Sep 2,2008 3:07pm - brian_dc ""] yeah, yeah. seen it. ridiculous |
| ______________________________ [Sep 2,2008 3:22pm - READ ""] I don't know if i believe it. Some of the stuff with he missing school with mono for like 8 months is pretty weird though |
| __________________________________ [Sep 2,2008 3:58pm - MASlayer ""] what happened to the look a like pics of her? Really that's the only thing that made this thread interesting... |
| _____________________________________ [Sep 2,2008 4:55pm - the_reverend ""] [img] |
| _____________________________________ [Sep 2,2008 4:56pm - the_reverend ""] I <3 the internet > [img] |
| _____________________________________ [Sep 2,2008 4:57pm - the_reverend ""] Q: Are you offended by the phrase "Under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance? Why or why not? PALIN: Not on your life. If it was good enough for the founding fathers, its good enough for me and I’ll fight in defense of our Pledge of Allegiance. The phrase was added in 1954. |
| _________________________________ [Sep 2,2008 4:58pm - brian_dc ""] heh |