Top 3 performers that you would bring back to life?
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[Sep 23,2008 8:44am - ouchdrummer ""]
Now, we are specifically talking about people who died in the prime of their career. In other words, someone who could have contributed more to their body of work if they hadn't died. Musicians, comedians, actors, or any other performer you can think of.
I will say..
Bill Hicks
Witold "Vitek" Kieltyka
George Carlin (i know, he was really old, and some may argue not in his prime. I personally found him hilarious till the end. He almost got funnier with age.
My office Mate says...
Bill Hicks
Randy Rhodes
Jon Bonham
[Sep 23,2008 8:46am - oscarct ""]
Ol dirty bastard
[Sep 23,2008 8:58am - sever ""]
Vitek.
[Sep 23,2008 9:19am - ouchdrummer ""]
both good ones, but come on, top three mofos!
[Sep 23,2008 9:22am - aril ""]
this question is impossible to answer because there's so many.
chris farley
hendrix
and yes, Heath Ledger so he'd be able to be in the 3rd batman movie.
[Sep 23,2008 9:30am - goatcatalyst ""]
Randy
Jimi
Belushi
[Sep 23,2008 9:32am - ouchdrummer ""]
nice, i was thinkin ledger, but i wasn't gonna put him in front of someone else just for another batman.... although it would be fucking sick. I know that movie got tons of hype, but i really did like it.
[Sep 23,2008 9:39am - oscarct ""]
ODB
Dimebag
[Sep 23,2008 9:40am - oscarct ""]
goatcatalyst said:Randy
Jimi
Belushi
good call
[Sep 23,2008 10:02am - largefreakatzero ""]
Cliff Burton, so he could tell his former bandmates that their band now stinks more than his rotting corpse.
[Sep 23,2008 10:10am - goatcatalyst ""]
Now THAT'S a good call! Though I think Cliff would be more astonished that twink-extaordinaire Kirk is STILL in the closet.
[Sep 23,2008 10:13am - Josh_Martin ""]
Cliff would be counting his money like the rest of them. Quit kidding yourselves.
[Sep 23,2008 10:14am - Josh_Martin ""]
goatcatalyst said:Randy
Jimi
Belushi
replace Belushi with Sam Kinison and that's my list.
[Sep 23,2008 10:18am - goatcatalyst ""]
Ooooh... Kinison! Fuck yeah. Kinda surprised no one included GG yet.
[Sep 23,2008 10:18am - aril ""]
Right before Hendrix died, I guess him and Miles Davis we're going to collaborate on a trippy-ass album. I always thought it would have been an unbelievable album if that were to ever happen.
[Sep 23,2008 10:24am - Josh_Martin ""]
aril said:Right before Hendrix died, I guess him and Miles Davis we're going to collaborate on a trippy-ass album. I always thought it would have been an unbelievable album if that were to ever happen.
That was about a year and a half before he died. I have an album with outtakes from a session Jimi did with a horn section. It's actually pretty cool (I am also a huge Chicago fan) but the way Jimi bounced around from idea to the next so quickly during the last couple years of his life I really doubt the Jimi/Miles thing would have ever ended up happenning if it didn't happen by the time he died.
[Sep 23,2008 10:24am - Josh_Martin ""]
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[Sep 23,2008 10:24am - Josh_Martin ""]
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[Sep 23,2008 10:29am - aril ""]
yea, that's awesome. but you know if that album WAS to happen, it would have been killer.
my father's got some vinyl bootleg of a hendrix show in hawaii. i can't remember the year but it's supposed to be kind of rare. i wanted to look into it
[Sep 23,2008 10:31am - Josh_Martin ""]
aril said:my father's got some vinyl bootleg of a hendrix show in hawaii. i can't remember the year but it's supposed to be kind of rare. i wanted to look into it
That's Rainbow Bridge. July 1970.
Not a bootleg, but way out of print.
Though I think its been reissued as a DVD.
[Sep 23,2008 10:31am - Josh_Martin ""]
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[Sep 23,2008 10:31am - Josh_Martin ""]
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[Sep 23,2008 10:32am - aril ""]
I don't know exactly what it is. I've only heard it a few times. it certainly looks and sounds like a bootleg
[Sep 23,2008 10:38am - aril ""]
yea, I looked on ebay and it's not the one that people have for sale up there. it's definitely a 1st edition or something of that sort. if i remember correctly there's handwriting on it..
[Sep 23,2008 10:41am - Yeti ""]
Dimebag Darrell
Quorthon
Jon Nodtveidt
[Sep 23,2008 10:42am - aril ""]
I wouldn't want to ressurect Jon Nodtveidt because it would go against his belief and will.
Let him be man, let him be.
[Sep 23,2008 10:43am - KillerKadoogan ""]
Bon Scott
Dimebag
Janis Joplin
[Sep 23,2008 10:45am - Yeti ""]
aril said:I wouldn't want to ressurect Jon Nodtveidt because it would go against his belief and will.
Let him be man, let him be.
fair enough, but i still want to resurrect him for 10 seconds so i can punch him for not letting me have a chance to see Dissection.
[Sep 23,2008 10:45am - Yeti ""]
in that case i'd add Chuck Schuldiner to that list.
[Sep 23,2008 10:48am - aril ""]
"I wouldn't want to ressurect Chuck Schuldiner because he will spread AIDS to the rest of the world." - Conservalist
[Sep 23,2008 10:54am - ThirdKnuckle ""]
Jimi Hendrix
Bon Scott
Keith Moon
Cliff Burton
Best dead band ever
[Sep 23,2008 10:58am - aril ""]
i'm actually quite surprised that some people on this board haven't posted their hatred for hendrix yet. "he's black, he plays blues, wasn't good at guitar. overrated" or "that's a bunch of hippie shit, he sucks"
I hear people say that about him all the time
[Sep 23,2008 11:04am - goatcatalyst ""]
People are dumb
[Sep 23,2008 11:22am - orgymf@work ""]
G.G. Allin
El Duce
George Carlin
[Sep 23,2008 11:32am - markfuckingrichards ""]
Stevie Ray motherfucking Vaughan
Randy Rhodes
Phil Hartman
[Sep 23,2008 11:32am - Troll ""]
do dead hookers count as performers?
[Sep 23,2008 11:32am - ZJD ""]
Jimi Hendrix
Bill Hicks
Sergio Leone
Jimi Hendrix and Bill Hicks are obvious picks, dying young at the peak of height of their creativity and whatnot.
I don't know if he really counts as a 'performer' per se, but Sergio Leno died at 60 years old but only a few years after making maybe his best movie and I've read that he had another in the works and plently of other projects he was working on. If he could have lived to 70 he may have had 1 or 2 more and they'd likely be in my top 10.
[Sep 23,2008 11:37am - Martins ""]
Zappa
The Gorguts drummer
Valfar
[Sep 23,2008 11:40am - dreadkill ""]
zappa
carlin
jeff buckley
[Sep 23,2008 11:48am - Martins ""]
I can't believe we had to be the first two to mention Zappa.
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[Sep 23,2008 11:57am - dreadkill ""]
this should be the list:
zappa
zappa
zappa
bring him back 3 times
[Sep 23,2008 12:26pm - orgymf@work ""]
yeah....zappa is amazing.
hendrix = overrated.
i gurantee (and i will prove this if a time machine is ever invented) he would not be given nearly as much credit for the shit he did on stage or in studio if he was not black and a left handed guitarist.
hacky generic riffs, setting your guitar on fire and taking alot of L.S.D.
whoop-de-fucking-doo
[Sep 23,2008 12:29pm - Mikeofdecrepitude ""]
Martins said:Zappa
The Gorguts drummer
Valfar
I was going to say Valfar but you beat me to it. I was just listening to Arntor and 1184 earlier this morning. He pretty much died the most Black Metal death.
The drum patterns Steve MacDonald wrote for Obscura were unbelievable. It's unfortunate that he took his own life, such a waste of talent.
[Sep 23,2008 12:29pm - Martins ""]
Oh come on. I'm no fan of Hendrix but Little Wing rules and not all his riffs are generic. I agree that he doesn't deserve as much credit as he gets though.
[Sep 23,2008 12:30pm - orgymf@work ""]
ok....not all of his riffs are generic.
but many of them are
[Sep 23,2008 12:32pm - BSV ""]
Hendrix
SRV
Bon Scott
[Sep 23,2008 12:44pm - IllinoisEnemaBradness ""]
Hendrix
Zappa
Phil Hartman
[Sep 23,2008 2:00pm - mortalis ""]
mozart
vinny daze
quorthon
[Sep 23,2008 2:13pm - ouchdrummer ""]
dreadkill said:this should be the list:
zappa
zappa
zappa
bring him back 3 times
Well, the only reason i didn't say zappa was because he had long life FILLED with musical output. How many albums did him and the mother have? Looks like about 100 releases on wiki. I dunno if i would consider him to be someone that i think was cut too short, man did more music than almost anyone. He would be in my fav3, but not someone that i feel like was cut down in their prime.
And Kinison? Are you serious? Bill hicks rippoff. bottom line.
[Sep 23,2008 2:15pm - Paul CNV ""]
Euronymous
Dead
GG ALLIN
Ian Stuart
[Sep 23,2008 2:15pm - orgymf@work ""]
WHOA WHOA WHOA JIMBO!!!!!
hold on a second my brewing brother.
Kinison? when did he ever rip off Bill Hicks?
Leary....definately
Mencia....of course, he rips everyone off
but Sammy...no fuckin way bro!
come on, name one other comic who in the early 80's did a bit about gay necrophiliacs.
Kinison was the man bro!
[Sep 23,2008 2:24pm - goatcatalyst ""]
Ozzy Osbourne.
[Sep 23,2008 2:25pm - orgymf@work ""]
goatcatalyst said:Ozzy Osbourne.
hahahahahahahahaha
[Sep 23,2008 2:28pm - ouchdrummer ""]
kinison's whole screamin thing was stolen directly form hicks. The exact same method of screaming mid joke, same pitch, same made faces, maybe their material was different, but that always got to me.
[Sep 23,2008 2:30pm - orgymf@work ""]
i'm just gonna completely disagree with ya buddy
[Sep 23,2008 2:31pm - ouchdrummer ""]
thats ok. still love ya
[Sep 23,2008 2:31pm - orgymf@work ""]
<3
[Sep 23,2008 2:32pm - orgymf@work ""]
-l-
[Sep 23,2008 2:32pm - orgymf@work ""]
-l- <3 -l-
[Sep 23,2008 3:06pm - Josh_Martin ""]
ouchdrummer said:kinison's whole screamin thing was stolen directly form hicks. The exact same method of screaming mid joke, same pitch, same made faces, maybe their material was different, but that always got to me.
Kinison was doing that at least as far back as 1984 (probably earlier, but those are the oldest tapes I've seen)
So you = wrong, way fucking wrong.
[Sep 23,2008 3:06pm - Josh_Martin ""]
ouchdrummer said:kinison's whole screamin thing was stolen directly form hicks. The exact same method of screaming mid joke, same pitch, same made faces, maybe their material was different, but that always got to me.
Kinison was doing that at least as far back as 1984 (probably earlier, but those are the oldest tapes I've seen)
So you = wrong, way fucking wrong.
[Sep 23,2008 3:06pm - Josh_Martin ""]
ouchdrummer said:kinison's whole screamin thing was stolen directly form hicks. The exact same method of screaming mid joke, same pitch, same made faces, maybe their material was different, but that always got to me.
Kinison was doing that at least as far back as 1984 (probably earlier, but those are the oldest tapes I've seen)
So you = wrong, way fucking wrong.
[Sep 23,2008 3:11pm - Josh_Martin ""]
orgymf@work said:yeah....zappa is amazing.
hendrix = overrated.
i gurantee (and i will prove this if a time machine is ever invented) he would not be given nearly as much credit for the shit he did on stage or in studio if he was not black and a left handed guitarist.
hacky generic riffs, setting your guitar on fire and taking alot of L.S.D.
whoop-de-fucking-doo
You = wrong, way fucking wrong.
First of all, ragging on someone for setting his guitar on fire is rather hypocritical coming from a GG Allin fan.
The guy invented so much shit that became so commonplace it almost seems generic by todays standard, but NO ONE was doing what he was doing at the time. No one sounded like that, no one played like that. The guy pretty much invented heavy metal.
and imo he was a phenomanal song writer. The stuff he was working on when he died was his best stuff ever. If all you know is the played out stuff thats played 8000 times a day on WZLX then you have no clue what you are talking about.
[Sep 23,2008 3:11pm - Josh_Martin ""]
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[Sep 23,2008 3:11pm - Josh_Martin ""]
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[Sep 23,2008 3:23pm - grizloch ""]
Kinison got his yelling from being an evangelical minister, the two hung out in Hicks early career when Kinison was much more popular, hicks didn't embrace his anger driven (screaming) comedy until after Kinison had already been performing that way for years
Kinison wasn't as intelligent or satirical, but was definitely a great comedian
[Sep 23,2008 3:29pm - ZJD ""]
Josh_Martin said:
orgymf@work said:yeah....zappa is amazing.
hendrix = overrated.
i gurantee (and i will prove this if a time machine is ever invented) he would not be given nearly as much credit for the shit he did on stage or in studio if he was not black and a left handed guitarist.
hacky generic riffs, setting your guitar on fire and taking alot of L.S.D.
whoop-de-fucking-doo
You = wrong, way fucking wrong.
First of all, ragging on someone for setting his guitar on fire is rather hypocritical coming from a GG Allin fan.
The guy invented so much shit that became so commonplace it almost seems generic by todays standard, but NO ONE was doing what he was doing at the time. No one sounded like that, no one played like that. The guy pretty much invented heavy metal.
and imo he was a phenomanal song writer. The stuff he was working on when he died was his best stuff ever. If all you know is the played out stuff thats played 8000 times a day on WZLX then you have no clue what you are talking about.
word up. i don't know anyone with a negative opinion on jimi hendrix that has heard more than purple haze and fire but i know plenty who have not.
[Sep 23,2008 3:32pm - goatcatalyst ""]
I celebrate the life and times of Sam Kinison.
[Sep 23,2008 3:33pm - ZJD ""]
I kind of hate Sam Kinison.
[Sep 23,2008 3:43pm - Josh_Martin ""]
Bill Hicks first album - 1990
Sam Kinison's first album - 1986
I am so thankful that I went to see Sam live. I had a massive drug problem at the time (you think I'm bad nowadays, you should've seen me in high school) but I managed to save money to buy a ticket to see Sam. This was about a year and a half before he died. First and best comedy show I've been to, and I've seen quite a few.
[Sep 23,2008 3:48pm - idea ""]
2pac
biggy
heath ledger
[Sep 23,2008 3:51pm - idea ""]
oh, and Eazy
[Sep 23,2008 3:53pm - oscarct ""]
happy i got to see carlin and hedberg
[Sep 23,2008 4:11pm - oscarct ""]
dreadkill said:zappa
carlin
jeff buckley
how did i forget buckley? anyone ever hear his cover of i against i
[Sep 23,2008 4:17pm - orgymf@work ""]
Josh_Martin said:
orgymf@work said:yeah....zappa is amazing.
hendrix = overrated.
i gurantee (and i will prove this if a time machine is ever invented) he would not be given nearly as much credit for the shit he did on stage or in studio if he was not black and a left handed guitarist.
hacky generic riffs, setting your guitar on fire and taking alot of L.S.D.
whoop-de-fucking-doo
You = wrong, way fucking wrong.
First of all, ragging on someone for setting his guitar on fire is rather hypocritical coming from a GG Allin fan.
The guy invented so much shit that became so commonplace it almost seems generic by todays standard, but NO ONE was doing what he was doing at the time. No one sounded like that, no one played like that. The guy pretty much invented heavy metal.
and imo he was a phenomanal song writer. The stuff he was working on when he died was his best stuff ever. If all you know is the played out stuff thats played 8000 times a day on WZLX then you have no clue what you are talking about.
i have heard plenty of hendrix.
it may have been original
but it was nothing special.
also, hearing a member of AxCx defend a black man makes me laugh hard
[Sep 23,2008 4:20pm - sacreligion ""]
idea said:2pac
biggy
it'd be the reincarnation that keeps on giving!
[Sep 23,2008 4:21pm - sacreligion ""]
hendrix
lennon
marley
[Sep 23,2008 4:25pm - RichHorror ""]
Bill Hicks
Salvador Dali
Bill Hicks
[Sep 23,2008 4:25pm - Josh_Martin ""]
orgymf@work said:
Josh_Martin said:
orgymf@work said:yeah....zappa is amazing.
hendrix = overrated.
i gurantee (and i will prove this if a time machine is ever invented) he would not be given nearly as much credit for the shit he did on stage or in studio if he was not black and a left handed guitarist.
hacky generic riffs, setting your guitar on fire and taking alot of L.S.D.
whoop-de-fucking-doo
You = wrong, way fucking wrong.
First of all, ragging on someone for setting his guitar on fire is rather hypocritical coming from a GG Allin fan.
The guy invented so much shit that became so commonplace it almost seems generic by todays standard, but NO ONE was doing what he was doing at the time. No one sounded like that, no one played like that. The guy pretty much invented heavy metal.
and imo he was a phenomanal song writer. The stuff he was working on when he died was his best stuff ever. If all you know is the played out stuff thats played 8000 times a day on WZLX then you have no clue what you are talking about.
i have heard plenty of hendrix.
it may have been original
but it was nothing special.
also, hearing a member of AxCx defend a black man makes me laugh hard
Then you really don't know shit about AC. Go up to Seth and talk shit about Eddy Grant.
Regardless, its all a matter of opinion. I just wanted to disprove your dumb time machine theory.
[Sep 23,2008 4:30pm - orgymf@work ""]
hah, i know that ac records = almost as racist as vaginal jesus
plus you play vaginal jesus covers live.
which is why you defending hendrix = laughable.
and as far as the whole fire thing, g.g. brutalized him self, jimi burned a guitar.
huge difference.
saying hendrix was different from any of the other guitarists of his time, is like saying obama is different from all the other modern day liberals.
the only difference is skin color.
nothing special
[Sep 23,2008 4:35pm - orgymf@work ""]
ZJD said:
Josh_Martin said:
orgymf@work said:yeah....zappa is amazing.
hendrix = overrated.
i gurantee (and i will prove this if a time machine is ever invented) he would not be given nearly as much credit for the shit he did on stage or in studio if he was not black and a left handed guitarist.
hacky generic riffs, setting your guitar on fire and taking alot of L.S.D.
whoop-de-fucking-doo
You = wrong, way fucking wrong.
First of all, ragging on someone for setting his guitar on fire is rather hypocritical coming from a GG Allin fan.
The guy invented so much shit that became so commonplace it almost seems generic by todays standard, but NO ONE was doing what he was doing at the time. No one sounded like that, no one played like that. The guy pretty much invented heavy metal.
and imo he was a phenomanal song writer. The stuff he was working on when he died was his best stuff ever. If all you know is the played out stuff thats played 8000 times a day on WZLX then you have no clue what you are talking about.
word up. i don't know anyone with a negative opinion on jimi hendrix that has heard more than purple haze and fire but i know plenty who have not.
i have heard that overrated douches whole catalog.
my uncle is a hippy, he has evry hendrix record, and we argue about this shit all the time.
he is nothing special
[Sep 23,2008 4:46pm - oscarct ""]
WESLEY WILLIS
[Sep 23,2008 4:51pm - sacreligion ""]
RichHorror said:Salvador Dali
really?
[Sep 23,2008 4:52pm - orgymf@work ""]
oscarct said:WESLEY WILLIS
he was fuckin funny
never got to see him live unfortunately
[Sep 23,2008 4:55pm - oscarct ""]
Josh_Martin said:
orgymf@work said:
Josh_Martin said:
orgymf@work said:yeah....zappa is amazing.
hendrix = overrated.
i gurantee (and i will prove this if a time machine is ever invented) he would not be given nearly as much credit for the shit he did on stage or in studio if he was not black and a left handed guitarist.
hacky generic riffs, setting your guitar on fire and taking alot of L.S.D.
whoop-de-fucking-doo
You = wrong, way fucking wrong.
First of all, ragging on someone for setting his guitar on fire is rather hypocritical coming from a GG Allin fan.
The guy invented so much shit that became so commonplace it almost seems generic by todays standard, but NO ONE was doing what he was doing at the time. No one sounded like that, no one played like that. The guy pretty much invented heavy metal.
and imo he was a phenomanal song writer. The stuff he was working on when he died was his best stuff ever. If all you know is the played out stuff thats played 8000 times a day on WZLX then you have no clue what you are talking about.
i have heard plenty of hendrix.
it may have been original
but it was nothing special.
also, hearing a member of AxCx defend a black man makes me laugh hard
Then you really don't know shit about AC. Go up to Seth and talk shit about Eddy Grant.
Regardless, its all a matter of opinion. I just wanted to disprove your dumb time machine theory.
is that the dude who sings "electric avenue"?
[Sep 23,2008 5:05pm - ouchdrummer ""]
Josh_Martin said:
ouchdrummer said:kinison's whole screamin thing was stolen directly form hicks. The exact same method of screaming mid joke, same pitch, same made faces, maybe their material was different, but that always got to me.
Kinison was doing that at least as far back as 1984 (probably earlier, but those are the oldest tapes I've seen)
So you = wrong, way fucking wrong.
hmmm.... i was just stating opinion, which by orgys reaction (comedy guru) i was wrong... the whole
so you = wrong, way fucking wrong
just sounds bitchy. no need for that.
And i said it in another thread, is your computer broken or something? Why do you triple post/post and then have two posts directly following with just "." in them. Its silly.
Anyways, i don't think Jimi was overrated, but gg alenn hurting himself, and Jimi burning a guitar are not the same. And there really is no way you can PROVE whether or not he is overrated, so why get so mad?
[Sep 23,2008 5:21pm - theaccurseddrummer ""]
Chuck Schuldiner
George Carlin
Stevie Ray Vaughan
[Sep 23,2008 5:24pm - RichHorror ""]
sacreligion said:
RichHorror said:Salvador Dali
really?
Yes really. Shit was so cash.
[Sep 23,2008 5:27pm - ouchdrummer ""]
how can anyone argue with Dali?
[Sep 23,2008 5:28pm - RichHorror ""]
I am a fan of insanity.
[Sep 24,2008 9:21am - orgymf@work ""]
ouchdrummer said:
Josh_Martin said:
ouchdrummer said:kinison's whole screamin thing was stolen directly form hicks. The exact same method of screaming mid joke, same pitch, same made faces, maybe their material was different, but that always got to me.
Kinison was doing that at least as far back as 1984 (probably earlier, but those are the oldest tapes I've seen)
So you = wrong, way fucking wrong.
hmmm.... i was just stating opinion, which by orgys reaction (comedy guru) i was wrong... the whole
so you = wrong, way fucking wrong
just sounds bitchy. no need for that.
And i said it in another thread, is your computer broken or something? Why do you triple post/post and then have two posts directly following with just "." in them. Its silly.
Anyways, i don't think Jimi was overrated, but gg alenn hurting himself, and Jimi burning a guitar are not the same. And there really is no way you can PROVE whether or not he is overrated, so why get so mad?
OK...YA CAUGHT ME!!!
I WAS JUST BEING RACIST
I AM SO ASHAMED!
let's make a belgian white beer and name it after a vaginal jesus song!
[Sep 24,2008 9:22am - orgymf@work ""]
hahaha, but no in all seriousness, i do find Jimi to be overrated, but i also knew that publicly stating such an opinion would inspire verbal attacks.
[Sep 24,2008 9:24am - the_reverend ""]
I can't believe no one said rob orbison.
[Sep 24,2008 9:25am - the_reverend ""]
also known as roy
[Sep 24,2008 9:58am - Josh_Martin ""]
ouchdrummer said:
Josh_Martin said:
ouchdrummer said:kinison's whole screamin thing was stolen directly form hicks. The exact same method of screaming mid joke, same pitch, same made faces, maybe their material was different, but that always got to me.
Kinison was doing that at least as far back as 1984 (probably earlier, but those are the oldest tapes I've seen)
So you = wrong, way fucking wrong.
hmmm.... i was just stating opinion, which by orgys reaction (comedy guru) i was wrong... the whole
so you = wrong, way fucking wrong
just sounds bitchy. no need for that.
And i said it in another thread, is your computer broken or something? Why do you triple post/post and then have two posts directly following with just "." in them. Its silly.
Anyways, i don't think Jimi was overrated, but gg alenn hurting himself, and Jimi burning a guitar are not the same. And there really is no way you can PROVE whether or not he is overrated, so why get so mad?
1. Stating that someone ripped off someone else is NOT opinion. You were wrong, me and others proved you wrong, shut the fuck up about it.
2. If you can't see that someone lighting a guitar on fire and someone eating his own shit are both gimicks that have nothing to do with the music, you and Orgy are in some massive kind of massive GG worship denial. Lighting your guitar on fire in 1967 was as shocking as flinging shit in 1987.
3. The triple posting is not my fault. Rev. keeps saying he'll fix it. You really think I'm fucking doing that on purpose?
[Sep 24,2008 9:58am - Josh_Martin ""]
ouchdrummer said:
Josh_Martin said:
ouchdrummer said:kinison's whole screamin thing was stolen directly form hicks. The exact same method of screaming mid joke, same pitch, same made faces, maybe their material was different, but that always got to me.
Kinison was doing that at least as far back as 1984 (probably earlier, but those are the oldest tapes I've seen)
So you = wrong, way fucking wrong.
hmmm.... i was just stating opinion, which by orgys reaction (comedy guru) i was wrong... the whole
so you = wrong, way fucking wrong
just sounds bitchy. no need for that.
And i said it in another thread, is your computer broken or something? Why do you triple post/post and then have two posts directly following with just "." in them. Its silly.
Anyways, i don't think Jimi was overrated, but gg alenn hurting himself, and Jimi burning a guitar are not the same. And there really is no way you can PROVE whether or not he is overrated, so why get so mad?
1. Stating that someone ripped off someone else is NOT opinion. You were wrong, me and others proved you wrong, shut the fuck up about it.
2. If you can't see that someone lighting a guitar on fire and someone eating his own shit are both gimicks that have nothing to do with the music, you and Orgy are in some massive kind of massive GG worship denial. Lighting your guitar on fire in 1967 was as shocking as flinging shit in 1987.
3. The triple posting is not my fault. Rev. keeps saying he'll fix it. You really think I'm fucking doing that on purpose?
[Sep 24,2008 9:58am - Josh_Martin ""]
ouchdrummer said:
Josh_Martin said:
ouchdrummer said:kinison's whole screamin thing was stolen directly form hicks. The exact same method of screaming mid joke, same pitch, same made faces, maybe their material was different, but that always got to me.
Kinison was doing that at least as far back as 1984 (probably earlier, but those are the oldest tapes I've seen)
So you = wrong, way fucking wrong.
hmmm.... i was just stating opinion, which by orgys reaction (comedy guru) i was wrong... the whole
so you = wrong, way fucking wrong
just sounds bitchy. no need for that.
And i said it in another thread, is your computer broken or something? Why do you triple post/post and then have two posts directly following with just "." in them. Its silly.
Anyways, i don't think Jimi was overrated, but gg alenn hurting himself, and Jimi burning a guitar are not the same. And there really is no way you can PROVE whether or not he is overrated, so why get so mad?
1. Stating that someone ripped off someone else is NOT opinion. You were wrong, me and others proved you wrong, shut the fuck up about it.
2. If you can't see that someone lighting a guitar on fire and someone eating his own shit are both gimicks that have nothing to do with the music, you and Orgy are in some massive kind of massive GG worship denial. Lighting your guitar on fire in 1967 was as shocking as flinging shit in 1987.
3. The triple posting is not my fault. Rev. keeps saying he'll fix it. You really think I'm fucking doing that on purpose?
[Sep 24,2008 9:59am - Josh_Martin ""]
see above for what happens when I don't edit the triple posts down to a period.
[Sep 24,2008 9:59am - Josh_Martin ""]
see above for what happens when I don't edit the triple posts down to a period.
[Sep 24,2008 9:59am - Josh_Martin ""]
see above for what happens when I don't edit the triple posts down to a period.
[Sep 24,2008 11:37am - the_reverend ""]
ok, I looked and wrote a fix that I will upload tonight.
[Sep 24,2008 11:47am - orgymf@work ""]
dude, we can see how they are gimicks that have nothing to do with the music.
but it still doesn't change the fact that there is a HUGE difference between eating feces/self-mutilation/assaulting audience members.
i don't care if that was "just as shocking" back then, because if his nappy-head caught on fire, someone would have run out with water and save his life.
G.G. risked his life on a daily basis.
Jimi was flashy and overrated.
G.G. was out of his mind!
[Sep 24,2008 11:48am - orgymf@work ""]
edit....
but it still doesn't change the fact that there is a HUGE difference between eating feces/self-mutilation/assaulting audience members and just burning a guitar.
[Sep 24,2008 12:03pm - ouchdrummer ""]
Josh_Martin said:
ouchdrummer said:
Josh_Martin said:
ouchdrummer said:kinison's whole screamin thing was stolen directly form hicks. The exact same method of screaming mid joke, same pitch, same made faces, maybe their material was different, but that always got to me.
Kinison was doing that at least as far back as 1984 (probably earlier, but those are the oldest tapes I've seen)
So you = wrong, way fucking wrong.
hmmm.... i was just stating opinion, which by orgys reaction (comedy guru) i was wrong... the whole
so you = wrong, way fucking wrong
just sounds bitchy. no need for that.
And i said it in another thread, is your computer broken or something? Why do you triple post/post and then have two posts directly following with just "." in them. Its silly.
Anyways, i don't think Jimi was overrated, but gg alenn hurting himself, and Jimi burning a guitar are not the same. And there really is no way you can PROVE whether or not he is overrated, so why get so mad?
1. Stating that someone ripped off someone else is NOT opinion. You were wrong, me and others proved you wrong, shut the fuck up about it.
2. If you can't see that someone lighting a guitar on fire and someone eating his own shit are both gimicks that have nothing to do with the music, you and Orgy are in some massive kind of massive GG worship denial. Lighting your guitar on fire in 1967 was as shocking as flinging shit in 1987.
3. The triple posting is not my fault. Rev. keeps saying he'll fix it. You really think I'm fucking doing that on purpose?
ok, first off, calm down. No need for "shut the fuck up". Seriously, just having a discussion, not trying to pick a fight.
And when people thought that the world was flat, that was an opinion. Just because they were wrong doesnt make it not an opinion. Opinions are strange like that, cause technically they are just what someone thinks.
And while people argue with opinions on this board all the time, they don't usaully feel the need to add the "shut the fuck up" onto it. I wasn't directly insulting your family or anything, i was stating an opinion of a comic.
(which i will admit that i was wrong about by the way, which is people (I) have discussions like this online, to see how other people feel about things, enlighten myself to new points of view.)
I don't even like GG Allen. Seriously, i don't like his music at all. But by what your saying, anyone who uses ANY gimics (that have nothing to do with the music) in their music are ripping of Jimi. Like when the o so famous (but not so good) band slipknot wears masks, are they ripping of Jimi? Or am i understanding you wrong? And please, if you choose to respond to this, don't think i am trying to put you down, or whatever, and maybe think about whether or not its necessary to be so mad about it.
[Sep 24,2008 12:08pm - corpus_nli ""]
duane allman
lowell george
ben marlin
RIP
[Sep 24,2008 12:45pm - orgymf@work ""]
JIM! YOU DON'T LIKE GG?
i am very disapointed. hah
[Sep 24,2008 12:52pm - ouchdrummer ""]
well, it's not a dislike thing, it just doesnt do it for me. I don't have any problem with the music. I think he was hilarious, obviously fucking nuts, which in my book gets you points, but alas, the music doesn't move me. Sorry to dissapoint.
[Sep 24,2008 1:01pm - orgymf@work ""]
eh, not alot of people we're really into his music.
i love that raw, angry, badly recorded punk sound
[Sep 24,2008 1:05pm - ouchdrummer ""]
Webster definition: Opinion
An opinion is a person's ideas and thoughts towards something. It is an assessment, judgment or evaluation of something. An opinion is not a fact, because opinions are either not falsifiable, or the opinion has not been proven or verified.
and while i admit that i am wrong now about said arguement, while i made the "statement in question" it had not been proven to me.. and fuck it, honestly it's still not PROVEN. I believe orgy, therefor it's not my opinion anymore, but how can you PROVE it's not true by release dates? Do you know for a fact that Sam didnt hear Bill doing his act 8years before Bill's first release? How do you know they didnt hang out and exchange material way before their albums were released? Or do you think their entire lives started with their first releases?
Basically, i DO believe sam did it first, but neither you, or me, can PROVE how much material a comic did, or didnt get from the other. They could have done amatuer shows together for years before sams first release, i know bill was doin comedy for years before his. Any ways, i wasn't gonna get into this, but i went back and read your posts, and your not being a nice person. Matter of fact i think your being mean just because you feel like it, or had a bad day, or something. And if you wanna be like that, and be so rude in the process, i feel inclined to show you that, yes it WAS an opinion, and maybe you didn't understand what an opinion was, so now your informed. Ok Buddy?
[Sep 24,2008 1:09pm - ouchdrummer ""]
i get that. Lots of my friends LOVE GG. With a capital <3 !!!
[Sep 24,2008 1:35pm - orgymf@work ""]
-l-
[Sep 24,2008 2:36pm - Josh_Martin ""]
ouchdrummer said:
Josh_Martin said:
ouchdrummer said:
Josh_Martin said:
ouchdrummer said:kinison's whole screamin thing was stolen directly form hicks. The exact same method of screaming mid joke, same pitch, same made faces, maybe their material was different, but that always got to me.
Kinison was doing that at least as far back as 1984 (probably earlier, but those are the oldest tapes I've seen)
So you = wrong, way fucking wrong.
hmmm.... i was just stating opinion, which by orgys reaction (comedy guru) i was wrong... the whole
so you = wrong, way fucking wrong
just sounds bitchy. no need for that.
And i said it in another thread, is your computer broken or something? Why do you triple post/post and then have two posts directly following with just "." in them. Its silly.
Anyways, i don't think Jimi was overrated, but gg alenn hurting himself, and Jimi burning a guitar are not the same. And there really is no way you can PROVE whether or not he is overrated, so why get so mad?
1. Stating that someone ripped off someone else is NOT opinion. You were wrong, me and others proved you wrong, shut the fuck up about it.
2. If you can't see that someone lighting a guitar on fire and someone eating his own shit are both gimicks that have nothing to do with the music, you and Orgy are in some massive kind of massive GG worship denial. Lighting your guitar on fire in 1967 was as shocking as flinging shit in 1987.
3. The triple posting is not my fault. Rev. keeps saying he'll fix it. You really think I'm fucking doing that on purpose?
ok, first off, calm down. No need for "shut the fuck up". Seriously, just having a discussion, not trying to pick a fight.
And when people thought that the world was flat, that was an opinion. Just because they were wrong doesnt make it not an opinion. Opinions are strange like that, cause technically they are just what someone thinks.
And while people argue with opinions on this board all the time, they don't usaully feel the need to add the "shut the fuck up" onto it. I wasn't directly insulting your family or anything, i was stating an opinion of a comic.
(which i will admit that i was wrong about by the way, which is people (I) have discussions like this online, to see how other people feel about things, enlighten myself to new points of view.)
I don't even like GG Allen. Seriously, i don't like his music at all. But by what your saying, anyone who uses ANY gimics (that have nothing to do with the music) in their music are ripping of Jimi. Like when the o so famous (but not so good) band slipknot wears masks, are they ripping of Jimi? Or am i understanding you wrong? And please, if you choose to respond to this, don't think i am trying to put you down, or whatever, and maybe think about whether or not its necessary to be so mad about it.
You are understanding me wrong. I wasn't even arguing with you about Jimi/GG. That argument was with orgy.
I just wanted to make sure you understood that Sam was definately not ripping off Bill Hicks at all. You seem to have gotten that now. My job is done.
[Sep 24,2008 2:36pm - Josh_Martin ""]
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[Sep 24,2008 2:36pm - Josh_Martin ""]
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[Sep 24,2008 2:41pm - Josh_Martin ""]
orgymf@work said:dude, we can see how they are gimicks that have nothing to do with the music.
but it still doesn't change the fact that there is a HUGE difference between eating feces/self-mutilation/assaulting audience members.
i don't care if that was "just as shocking" back then, because if his nappy-head caught on fire, someone would have run out with water and save his life.
G.G. risked his life on a daily basis.
Jimi was flashy and overrated.
G.G. was out of his mind!
Like I said, its all just opinion.
I wouldn't exactly say GG was risking his like though. Maybe risking getting AIDS, but not the way you mean it.
and for the record, I am a GG fan. He made some really shitty records and some really great records.
Eat My Fuc, Live Fast Die Fast, You'll Never Tame Me, and Brutality and Bloodshed For All are all awesome records that I would've liked even if I didn't know a single thing about his stage antics. (and that's all they were, stage antics. He did not live his daily life like that at all)
Now excuse me while I go sneak off to the bathroom andshoot a bag of dope. Hopefully I'll die like GG did.
[Sep 24,2008 2:41pm - Josh_Martin ""]
Hey George, email me, I need to talk to you about something having nothing to do with this stupid thread.
[Sep 24,2008 2:41pm - Josh_Martin ""]
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[Sep 24,2008 3:16pm - orgymf@work ""]
yeah it is all opinion.
i think he could've died on stage.
the way he attacked people, i am very surprised he was never shot or stabbed to death.
and if he had ever cut himself the wrong way/in the wrong place, he would have bled to death.
not to mention the number of videos i have seen where climbs up amps and shit, and fell in akward positions where he was lucky not to break his neck.
but regardless of that, i love his music too, the on stage shit is just extra entertainment.
all the records you listed, plus the "anti-social personality disorder" live record, the "suicide sessions" and "you give love a bad name" are fucking excellent
[Sep 24,2008 3:17pm - orgymf@work ""]
oh....and you've got email
[Sep 24,2008 6:40pm - Nobody_Cares ""]
Mieszko (Nasum is by far my fave grind band. They were coming to a peak as a band with the new members when he died.)
Wesley Willis because I should laugh forever
GG Allin
[Sep 25,2008 8:01am - Josh_Martin ""]
Hey George, if you emailed me I didn't get it.
Shit's been fucked up on our network lately. Try this one.
[Sep 25,2008 8:15am - ouchdrummer ""]
Nobody_Cares said:Mieszko (Nasum is by far my fave grind band. They were coming to a peak as a band with the new members when he died.)
Wesley Willis because I should laugh forever
GG Allin
WW was funny as shit. I was headbutted by him once.
"I wooped batmans ass" and "i got kicked outta church" were fucking classics.
[Sep 25,2008 8:37am - KillerKadoogan ""]
ooh I got another list:
Hank Williams Sr. (mainly for the massive song output, but also so he could beat Hank Jr like he should have in the first place. Maybe then he wouldn't be dancing on Monday Night Football.)
Mitch Hedberg (never got to see him, dammit.)
Jesse Pintado! I NEED LIVE TERRORIZER! COME BACK!
[Sep 25,2008 1:22pm - orgymf@work ""]
Josh_Martin said:Hey George, if you emailed me I didn't get it.
Shit's been fucked up on our network lately. Try this one.
josh.martin @ getronics.com
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