Trancendental Hipster Black Metal[views:11608][posts:107]______________________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 3:04am - finalnailinBM'scoffin ""] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kA_p2RLfpsk It happened to punk (pop-punk) It happened to deathmetal (deathcore) and now, hipster black metal is sticking its feminine 2 inch dick into black metals ass. |
| ________________________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 3:05am - finalnailinBM‘scoffin ""] bennyhillifier |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 3:19am - late_rising ""] I blame Nachtmystium |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 3:22am - NuclearWinter ""] [img] |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 3:38am - yeahitsdeadnow ""] The only thing that could save black metal at this point is extreme acts of violence. Murding christian black metal bands would be a good start, fire bombing hipster black metal bands homes would be a good second step, and some shooting sprees in churches and mosques would be a good follow through. |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 4:22am - josh_hates_you ""] or we could just go on with our lives and pretend this band doesn't exist. honestly if it wasnt for these threads making fun of this band, i would not even know this band exists. proof that bad publicity is good publicity. |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 4:23am - josh_hates_you ""] also, old news/repost. |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 4:51am - ggallin666 ""] http://penetrate.blogspot.com/2011/02/hack...oup-targets-french-heavy-metal.html good things can come from bad press |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 4:52am - ggallin666 ""] also this band gets tons of good press, magazines are calling them the best black metal band in years. I think some counter press is good |
| __________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 5:43am - Samantha ""] josh_hates_you said:or we could just go on with our lives and pretend this band doesn't exist. honestly if it wasnt for these threads making fun of this band, i would not even know this band exists. proof that bad publicity is good publicity. Very true. This thread made me waste 5 minutes of my life on a band that gave me a headache and wasn't bad enough to make me laugh. After watching all of the intellectualizing going on in the above video, try listening to one of this band's songs. It isn't any more musically complex or innovative than the demo my old roommate recorded by himself on a 4-track 12 years ago. I know they think they're being exceptionally creative musical geniuses or something, but I'm just not seeing it. They talk as though they're the new euphoric hippie version of Emperor. I'm going to go deal with the migraine I have from listening to this band for longer than 30 seconds and then listen to some Emperor. |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 8:14am - haz dingus ""] U R ALL HIPSTER DINGLEBERRY DOUCHE BUCKETS |
| _____________________________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 8:43am - failing to see the problem ""] Failing to see the issue with this band. There music isn't bad, nothing special but not bad. Is it because they don't worship satan or wear corpse paint? Or maybe its the leaders faggy haircut? Oh wait I know why they suck its because black metal is serious business LOLOLOLOL |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 8:46am - goatcatalyst ""] My haircut is worse. And I've been known to smile. |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 8:51am - Alx_Casket ""] The only fault I see is their transcendental attitude which is entirely contradicting itself; it's silly to talk about shunning and accepting the genre at the same time. The frontman isn't the most fluid communicator, and I think he'd be better at writing out his thoughts on the subject instead of coming across as a bumbling hipster in the interview. Shunning the older style of black metal is nothing new, and when something is globalized as much as the genre is, this video just shows another type people (suburban American white boys) that are just trying to make it their own. Isn't that what all of us musicians are trying to do anyway? I haven't heard enough of their music comment on the quality of the music, just responding to the interview. |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 8:52am - DestroyYouAlot ""] failing%20to%20see%20the%20problem said:MAKES YOU PART OF THE PROBLEM |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 8:54am - goatcatalyst ""] PS Cliff Burton wore flannel. But then again he also had a Misfits tattoo. Triple H here... not so much |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 8:54am - DestroyYouAlot ""] Alx_Casket said:The only fault I see is their transcendental attitude which is entirely contradicting itself; it's silly to talk about shunning and accepting the genre at the same time. The frontman isn't the most fluid communicator, and I think he'd be better at writing out his thoughts on the subject instead of coming across as a bumbling hipster in the interview. Shunning the older style of black metal is nothing new, and when something is globalized as much as the genre is, this video just shows another type people (suburban American white boys) that are just trying to make it their own. Isn't that what all of us musicians are trying to do anyway? I haven't heard enough of their music comment on the quality of the music, just responding to the interview. It's mainly the audacity on this little shit, thinking he's got his hands on black metal enough to "shun" it, let alone add to it. Typical Brooklyn hipster nonsense, just it's usually pointed at Peruvian pan pipe music or whatever bullshit they're into. |
| _________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 8:55am - haupty ""] seriously people on this forum worship bands like woe whose singer looks like rivers cuomo and whos music is catchy and entertaining but anything but groundbreaking! get over it. |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 9:02am - DestroyYouAlot ""] DestroyYouAlot said: failing%20to%20see%20the%20problem said:MAKES YOU PART OF THE PROBLEM |
| _____________________________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 9:03am - failing to see the problem ""] DestroyYouAlot said: failing%20to%20see%20the%20problem said:MAKES YOU PART OF THE PROBLEM If you listen to the interview while he sounds like a retard he basically talks about wanting to take BM in their own direction, TRANSCENDING the pre conceived notions of what the genre should always sound like. Isn't this what all of you guys try to do? You know, make the music you're own while trying to stay true to the genre but also do something different? Again, failing to see the problem with this band. |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 9:06am - DestroyYouAlot ""] like, maaan |
| _____________________________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 9:08am - failing to see the problem ""] Also pretend you haven't seen what this band looks like or talks like. Then go to thier myspace and listen to their stuff and tell me you wouldn't pop that shit into your music player of choice. |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 9:11am - DestroyYouAlot ""] failing%20to%20see%20the%20problem said:Also pretend you haven't seen what this band looks like or talks like. Then go to thier myspace and listen to their stuff and tell me you wouldn't pop that shit into your music player of choice. This probably sounded like a killer argument when you thought of it. Look, if this shit doesn't run a douchechill up your back, you're not part of the discussion, so don't worry about it. Just don't convince yourself that other folks can't smell the bullshit without being pointed to it. |
| _____________________________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 9:15am - failing to see the problem ""] Please good sir, explain to me, someone who obviously knows nothing of the black metal genre, why liturgy's music sucks. Please enlighten me. If you can't then you are in no position to be bashing them. |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 9:16am - DestroyYouAlot ""] logical fallacies: keep leaning on them |
| ______________________________ [Mar 21,2011 9:18am - ark ""] I have a reason: Emerson was a lame fucking poet. |
| _________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 9:18am - reimroc ""] oh look its this thread again. just with a different band. these never end well. ps: hi steeeeeeeeeve |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 9:21am - DestroyYouAlot ""] reimroc said:oh look its this thread again. just with a different band. these never end well. ps: hi steeeeeeeeeve [img] |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 9:23am - DestroyYouAlot ""] This thread needs more Myatt. [img] |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 9:24am - DestroyYouAlot ""] transcendental nazi muslim space marines or burned and died |
| _________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 9:30am - reimroc ""] have you played the new DoW2 expansion? its fucking SWEET. |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 9:31am - DestroyYouAlot ""] PROLEGOMENON One could propose a new meaning for black metal along with a new array of techniques to activate that meaning. The meaning of Transcendental Black Metal is Affirmation, and its new technique is the Burst Beat. The will to power has two stages. The first may be called Fortification; the establishment of a paradigm or set of rules and the ensuing exploration of potential that lies within those constraints. The second stage may be termed Sacrifice; an auto-destruction, a self-overcoming whereby the initial rules, having been fully digested and satisfied, are thereby mutilated. They are transformed into the basis for something new and unprecedented. Transcendental Black Metal is black metal in the mode of Sacrifice. It is a clearing aside of contingent features and a fresh exploration of the essence of black metal. As such it is solar, hypertrophic, courageous, finite and penultimate. Its tone is Affirmation and its key technique is the Burst Beat. The black metal that was born in Scandinavia in the mode of Fortification can be termed Hyperborean Black Metal. Hyperborean Black Metal is lunar, atrophic, depraved, infinite and pure. The symbol of its birth is the Death of Dead. Its tone is Nihilism and its key technique is the Blast Beat. Today USBM stands in the shadow of Hyperborean Black Metal. The time has come for a decisive break with the European tradition and the establishment of a truly American black metal. And we should say “American” rather than “US”: the US is a declining empire; America is an eternal ideal representing human dignity, hybridization and creative evolution. The act of renihilation is the betrayal of Hyperborean Black Metal and an affirmation of Transcendental Black Metal. And it is at the same time the constitution of an apocalyptic humanism to be termed Aesthethics. As such, the question of Transcendental Black Metal is only the tip of an iceberg at the base of which is hidden a new relationship between art, politics, ethics and religion. PART I THE DEATH OF DEAD THE HAPTIC VOID AS FINAL CAUSE The history of metal can be considered in terms of levels of intensity. Considered in this way, black metal shows itself to be a culmination or endpoint of this history, and also a dead end. The historical development of extreme metal is not a chance series of stylistic shifts. It is teleological - governed by a dimly understood but acutely felt Ideal, or a final cause. This final cause is named the Haptic Void. The Haptic Void is a hypothetical total or maximal level of intensity. It is the horizon of the history of metal. Orientation towards the Haptic Void is expressed as feeling. The feeling is a unity, but in thought we can break it down into four elements: There is first of all a certain muscular clenching, a constriction of the jaws, fists, arms and chest. Secondarily there is an affect: a certain aggression or brutality, a paradoxical sense of power, destruction, fullness and emptiness. Thirdly it features a primordial satisfaction relating to the affect which acts normatively. Good metal produces a satisfying bouquet of clenching, constriction and brutal affect. Finally there is a barely discernable je ne sais quoi that says “not enough”. A complementary dissatisfaction – as though no brutal breakdown can be quite brutal enough. It is a fissure, a crack, a lack of being. An insufficiency compared to the promised plenitude. Maybe it’s the inability of any concrete song to measure up to the inspiration that gave birth to it. Paradoxically this dissatisfaction is felt in direct proportion to the level of its complement. It is this dissatisfaction, this fourth element, which causes extreme metal to develop new styles over time. This is the pull of the final cause. This opening, this fissure, is the angel that guides metal’s history. We see metal march towards the void, leaving thrash, death metal and black metal, successively, in its wake. But the promise made by the Haptic Void is a lie. Only its absence is ever present. TRANSILVANIAN HUNGER Hyperborean Black Metal is the culmination of the history of extreme metal. Hyperborean Black Metal was born in the Arctic Circle, which is traditionally known as the Hyperborean realm. The Hyperborean realm is a land that is fallow because it lacks periodicity. There is no birth or death there because the sun neither rises nor sets. Hyperborean Black Metal is the culmination of the history of extreme metal (which is itself the culmination of the history of the Death of God). The subject of this history may be compared to a mountaineer, maneuvering over and across the various terrains of thrash, grindcore and death metal – or rather, carving these terrains into the mountainside - and striving to reach the Haptic Void, dimly understood but strongly felt, glimmering brightly at the summit. Hyperborean Black Metal represents the moutaineer’s arrival at the peak and a supposed leap off of it, directly into the Haptic Void. A total, maximal intensity. A complete flood of sound. An absolute plenitude. But there he learns that totality is indistinguishable from nothingness. He learns that it is impossible to leap into the horizon. And he is left, crestfallen, frozen and alone, in the Hyperborean realm. It is a dead static place, a polar land where there is no oscillation between day and night. But stasis is atrophy. The Hyperborean realm is dead with purity, totally absolute, selfsame and eternal. The mountaineer undergoes a profound apostasy that he cannot fully understand and arrives at nihilism. The technique of Hyperborean Black Metal is the blast beat. Pure black metal, represented by Transilvanian Hunger, means continuous open strumming and a continuous blast beat. But the pure blast beat is eternity in itself. No articulated figures, no beginning, no end, no pauses, no dynamic range. It is a bird soaring in the air with nowhere to perch even for a moment. What seemed at first to be a great clamor dwindles to an atrophied hum. Having climbed to the peak of the mountain, the mountaineer lies down and freezes to death. PART II THE AFFIRMATION OF AFFIRMATION AMERICA Transcendental Black Metal represents a new relationship to the Haptic Void and the self-overcoming of Hyperborean Black Metal. It is a sublimation of Hyperborean Black Metal in both its spiritual aspect and its technical aspect. Spiritually, it transforms Nihilism into Affirmation. Technically, it transforms the Blast Beat into the Burst Beat. Spiritually we acknowledge Nihilism, and we refuse to sink into it, impossible as the task may be. Transcendental Black Metal is a Renihilation, a “No” to the entire array of Negations, which turns to an affirmation of the continuity of all things. Transcendental Black Metal is the reanimation of the form of black metal with a new soul, a soul full of chaos, frenzy and ecstasy. A specifically American joyful clamor which is also a tremor. Or maybe it is the opposite act: a peeling away of the husk of convention, the dead skin of clichés and a fresh exploration of the living soul of black metal, with the aim to reactivate its purest essence and produce something that grows from it but does not resemble its earlier incarnations because it is built from the ground up in a different time and place. Built in America. An America that has never existed and may never exist. The America that represents the apocalyptic humanism of William Blake. The America celebrated by Aaron Copeland’s Appalachian Spring or Ornette Coleman’s Skies of America. This America is a metaphor for pure unrestricted creativity, the courageous exercise of will and the joyful experience of the continuity of existence. A celebration of the hybrid and of creative evolution. THE BURST BEAT The backbone of Transcendental Black metal is the Burst Beat. The burst beat is a hyper blast beat, a blast beat that ebbs, flows, expands and contracts, breaths. It replaces death and atrophy with life and hypertrophy. This transformation is accomplished by two features: acceleration and rupture. The first feature of the burst beat is acceleration. The burst beat accelerates and decelerates. It has an ebb and a flow. This flow both mirrors life and stimulates life. It expands and contracts like the tide, the economy, day and night, inhalation and exhalation, life and death. The second feature of the burst beat is rupture. The burst beat features sudden ruptures or phase transitions. Just like all natural systems, it breaks suddenly from one state to another. Consider the horse as it switches from walk to trot to canter. Consider water as it switches from ice to liquid to gas. The moment of the rupture is the moment of transcendence. What is holy if not the moment that water turns to steam? Or the moment that a walk turns to a run? The burst beat expresses an arc of intensity. It responds to and supplements the melodic flow rather than providing a rhythmic container or backdrop. The rate of change of the tempo, whether positive or negative, corresponds to a level of intensity. Any static tempo is a zero degree. The burst requires total expenditure of power and its very exercise fosters growth and increase of strength. And yet the burst beat never arrives anywhere, eternally “not yet” at its destination, eternally “almost” at the target tempo. Like a nomad, the burst beat knows it will never arrive. By mirroring life, the burst beat stimulates and fosters life. By fostering life, Transcendental Black Metal affirms life. PROPERTIES Transcendental Black Metal exists as a unity, but in thought it can be analyzed into six properties. Why is Transcendental Black Metal affirmative? Transcendental Black Metal is in fact nihilism, however it is a double nihilism and a final nihilism, a once and for all negation of the entire series of negations. With this final “No” we arrive a sort of vertiginous Affirmation, an Affirmation that is white-knuckled, terrified, unsentimental, and courageous. What we affirm is the facticity of time and the undecidability of the future. Our affirmation is a refusal to deny. Why is Transcendental Black Metal hypertrophic? Growth is life, stasis is decay. We are committed to striving eternally, living a sort of permanent revolution. Just as a well exercised muscle is beautiful and powerful, so we will be beautiful and powerful. In truth, there is no stasis. The only choice is between atrophy and hypertrophy. The celebration of atrophy is confused, weak, and neurotic. The celebration of hypertrophy is honest and alive. Why is Transcendental Black Metal solar? Transcendental black metal is solar in three respects, following three aspects of the sun: periodicity, intensity and honesty. The sun lets things be born and grow, so that they may die. The burst beat is periodic because is rises and sets like the sun. The sun mesmerizes and burns. We participate in– ENOUGH ALREADY |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 9:33am - DestroyYouAlot ""] [img] [img] |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 9:39am - DestroyYouAlot ""] Also transcending black metal: bennyhillifier NONE MORE BLACK |
| _________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 9:42am - haupty ""] lol at burst beat... sounds like sloppy drumming |
| ________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 9:53am - xmikex ""] NuclearWinter said:[img] *high five* |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 9:54am - Alexecutioner ""] Burst beat must be a term drummers use to make them feel better about not being able to blast like Frost, haha |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 9:55am - DestroyYouAlot ""] Alexecutioner said:Burst beat must be a term drummers use to make them feel better about not being able to blast like Frost, haha My car accelerates in spurts when it runs out of gas, too. |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 10:00am - Alexecutioner ""] hahaha |
| _______________________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 10:00am - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] I can understand people enjoying this band in the way people enjoy shit like MC Frontalot. It's a safe way to dip a toe into a genre you're kind of interested in but intimidated by. I have the same problem with Liturgy that I have with Krallice and nerdcore, they're technically sound but the ideology behind the music isn't there or is in parody at best. |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 10:01am - Alexecutioner ""] lets compare this to guns for a second. who wants burst fire when you could go FULL AUTO |
| _______________________________ [Mar 21,2011 10:04am - ark ""] His burst beat master thesis ignores 100+ years of jazz. Final grade: F- |
| __________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 10:08am - haupty ""] Alexecutioner said:lets compare this to drums for a second. who wants sloppy bursts when you could have the consistent pounding of tight blasts |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 10:10am - DestroyYouAlot ""] ark said:His burst beat master thesis ignores 100+ years of jazz. Final grade: F- bennyhillifier [img] |
| _______________________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 10:14am - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] I'm purchasing a thousand monkeys and making them play a thousand drums until they master a rhythmic conception I've termed the "blurst beat" While the blast beat only provides a container for melody and the burst only counters that melody the blurst beat marches day and night by the big cooling tower. |
| _________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 10:19am - xmikex ""] it was the best of beats, it was the blurst of beats |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 10:22am - Alexecutioner ""] haupty said: Alexecutioner said:lets compare this to drums for a second. who wants sloppy bursts when you could have the consistent pounding of tight blasts haha, nice job |
| _______________________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 10:23am - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] First thing tomorrow morning I'm blurst beating Lenny in the back of the head. |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 10:23am - haz dingus ""] Im pretty sure most ladies prefer blasting over bursting in the bedroom |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 10:24am - DestroyYouAlot ""] Spooge beat |
| _______________________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 10:25am - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] Lisa needs music theory! Blurst beat plan |
| ____________________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 10:58am - FuckIsMySignature ""] [img] |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 11:26am - Alx_Casket ""] @DYA: where did you even paste that hockomock from? |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 11:32am - mutis nli ""] There's two things about this I find hilarious. First, that fucking manifesto uses all the same exaggerated and unnecessary wordiness and vocabulary that NSBM bands like to use as a way to show off their self-proclaimed intellectualism. I couldn't even get through the first paragraph. Not because it was hard to understand, but because I couldn't help but feel like I was being talked down to by someone who's a dumbass pretending to be smart. Fuck "transcendental". I play Socratic black metal. Second, when the kid says he wrote a manifesto called "transcendental black metal", his band mates start squirming and looking very uncomfortable. I find this amusing. |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 11:38am - DestroyYouAlot ""] Alx_Casket said:@DYA: where did you even paste that hockomock from? http://www.viceland.com/blogs/en/2010/03/0...-fit-to-print-transcendental-metal/ Vice magazine, where I get all my transcendental black metal news from, obv. |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 11:39am - dreadkill ""] the whole manifesto thing is what turns me off to shit like this. just shut the fuck up and play. it's music, not a fucking doctoral thesis. get over yourself already. if the music is good enough, i usually overlook stupid things the band members say or do. i don't know liturgy's music well enough to make the judgement, but the manifesto garbage makes me not even want to give it a chance. |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 11:39am - The_Rooster ""] did anyone count how many times they say "like" in that interview? Jesus. I feel like the harder bands try to sound deep and on some higher plain of thought, it just comes off contrived, unnecessary, and in this case, rehearsed. If your songs are good, and original, then you shouldn't have to so elaborately explain yourself. Let the music speak for itself dudes. I do think "Renihilation" is a solid album though, and have enjoyed them live. Maybe not being a die-hard when it comes to BM helps. All this kind of stuff is pretty new to me. |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 11:39am - DestroyYouAlot ""] I'd like to add that I fully support whatever "Hyperborean black metal" is. LOL |
| _________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 11:40am - burnsy ""] mutis%20nli said:There's two things about this I find hilarious. First, that fucking manifesto uses all the same exaggerated and unnecessary wordiness and vocabulary that NSBM bands like to use as a way to show off their self-proclaimed intellectualism. I couldn't even get through the first paragraph. Not because it was hard to understand, but because I couldn't help but feel like I was being talked down to by someone who's a dumbass pretending to be smart. Fuck "transcendental". I play Socratic black metal. Second, when the kid says he wrote a manifesto called "transcendental black metal", his band mates start squirming and looking very uncomfortable. I find this amusing. Backed. I noticed how uncomfortable the band looked when he said that as well. Did you happen to notice how many fucking times the kid said "like?" Fuckin' amateurs. |
| ___________________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 11:48am - largefreakatzero ""] dreadkill said: it's music, not a fucking doctoral thesis. get over yourself already. . This. Regarding this band, who gives a fuck anyway, they fucking suck regardless of who they are, what they look like, or where they're from. The fact that these kids are complete fucking dorks just complements their mediocre suckdom. |
| _______________________________ [Mar 21,2011 11:50am - ark ""] I watched for 30 seconds, when the standard grim black metal tremelo fare kicked in, he goes on to say "We don't play, like, grim music, we don't wear, like, corpsepaint" ...I was, like, done listening to him. |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 11:55am - DestroyYouAlot ""] [img] |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 12:06pm - nekronotshaver ""] i dont know what all the fuss is about. i love this band and anyone who disagrees is fail |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 12:10pm - NuclearWinter ""] I like my black metal played by economics professors, and riddled with broken English. |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 12:11pm - haz dingus ""] i like the official logged in nekronaut troll |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 12:11pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] only THE REAL Joe Christianni is real |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 12:17pm - dreadkill ""] only dick-flavored water is bro |
| _________________________________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 12:18pm - The Real Real Joe Christianni ""] Only my mom queefing pussy sharts on Liturgy is real. |
| _________________________________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 12:21pm - The Real Real Joe Christianni ""] Transcend the fundamental like boundaries like of the gate that's like in Chinatown and like engage in like a pugilistic contest with me upon like the premises of the like Walpole Mall or you're like a pussy per se. |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 12:30pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] Joe Christianni heard a Brooklyn black metal band was playing and re-upped his offer to fight the crowd at Suffocation. |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 12:51pm - goatcatalyst ""] Haptic buttdarts |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 2:32pm - ggallin666 ""] you can tell that none of them are metalheads, they are just hipsters with no real connection to the music. Just like hipster peruvian flute bands have nothing to do with indigenous culture. Hippy faggots have no place in black metal, black metal is for people filled with hatred. |
| ___________________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 2:33pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] do a time machine about it faggot |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 2:34pm - ggallin666 ""] I dont have a time machine, I guess beating up hipsters at metalshows will have to do instead. |
| ________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 2:37pm - xmikex ""] ggallin666 said:peruvian flute bands ...exactly. |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 2:45pm - ggallin666 ""] Alx_Casket said:(they) are just trying to make it their own. Isn't that what all of us musicians are trying to do anyway? A hippy fag trying to make black metal his own.... You dont see any problems with that? |
| ___________________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 2:47pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] hipsters are so last year.. |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 2:47pm - ggallin666 ""] DestroyYouAlot said:[img] thats pretty much how it is |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 2:52pm - arktouros ""] a white man singing the blues? NIGGA PLEASE. |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 2:55pm - ggallin666 ""] more like wiggers from the rich suburbs acting gangster |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 2:56pm - Randy_Marsh ""] its not black metal. |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 2:57pm - Alx_Casket ""] more like wiggers from the rich suburbs acting gangster And isn't that what the first wave of black metal really boiled down to? I think we could all get like, a little more romantic around here. |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 2:59pm - ggallin666 ""] Alx_Casket said:And isn't that what the first wave of black metal really boiled down to? I think we could all get like, a little more romantic around here. I smell a hipster |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 3:00pm - Alx_Casket ""] You got me. |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 3:01pm - arktouros ""] GG, the Internet really took off after you died, don't take it personally. |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 3:06pm - ggallin666 ""] bennyhillifier |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 3:06pm - Alexecutioner ""] DestroyYouAlot said:THE BURST BEAT The backbone of Transcendental Black metal is the Burst Beat. The burst beat is a hyper blast beat, a blast beat that ebbs, flows, expands and contracts, breaths. It replaces death and atrophy with life and hypertrophy. This transformation is accomplished by two features: acceleration and rupture. The first feature of the burst beat is acceleration. The burst beat accelerates and decelerates. It has an ebb and a flow. This flow both mirrors life and stimulates life. It expands and contracts like the tide, the economy, day and night, inhalation and exhalation, life and death. The second feature of the burst beat is rupture. The burst beat features sudden ruptures or phase transitions. Just like all natural systems, it breaks suddenly from one state to another. Consider the horse as it switches from walk to trot to canter. Consider water as it switches from ice to liquid to gas. The moment of the rupture is the moment of transcendence. What is holy if not the moment that water turns to steam? Or the moment that a walk turns to a run? The burst beat expresses an arc of intensity. It responds to and supplements the melodic flow rather than providing a rhythmic container or backdrop. The rate of change of the tempo, whether positive or negative, corresponds to a level of intensity. Any static tempo is a zero degree. The burst requires total expenditure of power and its very exercise fosters growth and increase of strength. And yet the burst beat never arrives anywhere, eternally “not yet” at its destination, eternally “almost” at the target tempo. Like a nomad, the burst beat knows it will never arrive. By mirroring life, the burst beat stimulates and fosters life. By fostering life, Transcendental Black Metal affirms life. are you fucking kidding me? so basically what you are saying is you're fucking sloppy and you cant even keep tempo? learn how to practice to a metronome and stop writing manifesto's to make it look like you did all of this on purpose. BLAST LIKE FROST OR GTFO |
| ________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 3:12pm - burnsy ""] Alexecutioner said: are you fucking kidding me? so basically what you are saying is you're fucking sloppy and you cant even keep tempo? learn how to practice to a metronome and stop writing manifesto's to make it look like you did all of this on purpose. BLAST LIKE FROST OR GTFO Haha I hear what you're sayin' but I think this concept has potential to sound pretty sick. |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 3:13pm - Alexecutioner ""] it does, but i have a really hard time reading what they wrote without wanting to punch a pretentious hipster faggot in the face :( |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 3:15pm - Alexecutioner ""] the idea in theory of an entire bands tempo ebbing and flowing along with a blast beat sounds awesome. but i still refuse to believe this was on purpose, and that some hipster fuck who couldnt play drums to begin with was struggling so hard to stay on tempo with a blast beat that he gave up, wrote a manifesto about it, and said it was on purpose |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 3:16pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] SRSLY, it basically amounts to, "play fast for one part, then play a little faster in the next part, then play less fast again". There, now I've transcended black metal. |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 3:18pm - arktouros ""] HE TALKS LIKE THEY'RE THE FIRST FUCKING BAND THAT DID THIS. THEY'RE NOT. SEE GRAVELAND AND A BILLION OTHER BM BANDS THAT DON'T USE A CLICK. AHHHHHHHHHHHH |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 3:19pm - Alexecutioner ""] the whole idea of "transcending black metal" sounds completely fucking pretentious WRITE A MANIFESTO ABOUT IT, FAGGOT |
| ________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 3:20pm - burnsy ""] hahaha, agreed. I dunno yeah, I just always thought it would be really cool to speed up and slow down a blast and have the guitars follow it. |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 3:23pm - Alexecutioner ""] burnsy said:hahaha, agreed. I dunno yeah, I just always thought it would be really cool to speed up and slow down a blast and have the guitars follow it. dont get me wrong, i agree with you here, especially in black metal. would sort of give you that feeling of being pushed and pulled by the forces of nature in a very atmospheric fashion |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 3:23pm - Alexecutioner ""] BUT WRITE A MANIFESTO ABOUT IT, FAGGOT |
| _______________________________ [Mar 21,2011 3:28pm - mutis ""] The backbone of Butter Black metal is the Popcorn Beat. The popcorn beat is a tasty blast beat, a blast beat that ebbs, flows, expands and contracts, breaths. BREATHS. Not breathes. It replaces peanuts and nachos with kernels of corniness. This transformation is accomplished by two poppers: jiffy pop and air poppers. The first feature of the popcorn beat is sloppiness. The popcorn beat accelerates and decelerates the more untalented the drummer. It has an ebb and a flow of coconut oil. This flow of coconut oil both mirrors margarine and stimulates butter. It expands and contracts like the tide, the economy, economy and economy, economy and economy, life and economy. The second feature of the burst beat is fancy words that don't mean anything. The burst beat features sudden fancy words such as "phase transitions". Just like all natural margarines, it drips suddenly from one state to another. Consider the horse as its hooves are turned to glue which is also the texture of coconut oil. The popcorn beat expresses an arc of sporadic crappy drumming. It responds to and supplements the delicious flow rather than providing a rhythmic container of un-popped popping corn or backdrop to movie theater food. The rate of change of the temperature, whether hot or cold, corresponds to a level of taste. Any static temperature is a zero degree (which is really cold popcorn). The popcorn requires total expenditure of money because they jack up the price at the theaters and its very expensive, and then something about foster moms. And yet the popcorn beat never arrives anywhere because it sucks, eternally “not yet” at its destination, eternally “almost” at the target tempo and I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about. By mirroring Jolly Time, the popcorn beat stimulates fosters beer. By fostering embarrassing manifestos, Butter Black Metal affirms memes. |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 3:30pm - arktouros ""] A+ |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 3:31pm - arilliusbm ""] Black metal died in 1994. Nothing to see folks, move along. |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 3:32pm - Alx_Casket ""] Wicked hyperborean popcorn, bro. |
| _______________________________ [Mar 21,2011 3:35pm - mutis ""] This shit just reminds me of my highschool band, because our drummer sucked at keeping beat, so we called him a "popcorn drummer" |
| _______________________________ [Mar 21,2011 3:40pm - mutis ""] The most hilarious part of this whole thing is that they're trying to separate themselves from stereotypical black metal. But as mentioned before, this whole "transcendental" thing sounds really fucking pretentious. I can't think of anything more black metal than that, unless they were to always capitalize the "T". Oh the irony. |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 4:00pm - Randy_Marsh ""] burnsy said:hahaha, agreed. I dunno yeah, I just always thought it would be really cool to speed up and slow down a blast and have the guitars follow it. i think ur on to something |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 4:04pm - nekronotshaver ""] i fucking love this thread and everything that is related to Trancendental Black Metal |
| ________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 4:04pm - burnsy ""] Randy_Marsh said: i think ur on to something Taking ark's word for it, it would seem that it's just old news. I mentioned the idea of this a month or so ago at OR practice but I don't think anyone knew what the fuck I was saying. |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 4:08pm - Randy_Marsh ""] burnsy said: Randy_Marsh said: i think ur on to something Taking ark's word for it, it would seem that it's just old news. I mentioned the idea of this a month or so ago at OR practice but I don't think anyone knew what the fuck I was saying. i was there in spirit as you were explaining it and my physical self at the time started imagining it and forced an understanding into my mind. |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 4:10pm - Alx_Casket ""] Cocaine's a hell of a drug. |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 4:10pm - goatcatalyst ""] Alexecutioner said: dont get me wrong, i agree with you here, especially in black metal. would sort of give you that feeling of being pushed and pulled by the forces of nature in a very atmospheric fashion Inquisition kinda has that vibe with those lurching bends - especially on the new album |