close to 20 people dead (including children) in CT kindergarten shooting[views:413585][posts:319]____________________________________ [Dec 14,2012 5:27pm - eyeroller ""] Looking at the FB page, that kids favorite bands are Guns'n'Roses and fuckin Freezepop. Also hearing conflicting stuff on which kid is which, brother / shooter. No body found in NJ, but they're saying dad's dead in his home (Newtown), and the kid's girlfriend and her friend current whereabouts unknown. bleh |
| __________________________________________ [Dec 14,2012 5:38pm - MillenialKingdom ""] This has to be the worst shooting in America's history. I'm sick to my stomach over this. Hugging my daughter a little tighter today. |
| _________________________________________ [Dec 14,2012 5:43pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] Headbanging_Man said:From the president: "I offered Gov. Malloy my condolences on behalf of the nation." "We've endured too many of these tragedies in the past few years. Each time I learn the news I react not as a president but as anybody else would as a parent. "That was especially true today. "I know there's not a parent in America that doesn't feel the same overwhelming grief that I do. "The majority of those who died today were children, beautiful little kids between the ages of 5 and 10 years old. "They had their entire lives ahead of them, birthdays, graduations, weddings, kids of their own. "Among the fallen were also teachers - men and women who devoted their lives to helping our children fulfill their dreams. Our hearts are broken today for the parents and grandparents, sisters and brothers of these children and the families of the adults we lost. "Our hearts are broken for the parents of the survivors as well, for as blessed as they are to have their children home tonight, they know that their children’s innocence has been torn away from them too early, and there are no words that will ease their pain. "As a country, we have been through this too many times. Whether it’s an elementary school in Newtown, or a shopping mall in Oregon, or a temple in Wisconsin, or a movie theater in Aurora, or a street corner in Chicago - these neighborhoods are our neighborhoods, and these children are our children. And we're going to have to come together and take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this, regardless of the politics. "This evening Michelle and I will do whah every parent in America will do - hug our children a little tighter and tell them that we love them. "There are families in Connecticut that cannot do that tonight and they need all of us tonight. "May god bless the memory of the victims and in the words of scripture heal the broken hearted and bind up their wounds. "Also we are proud to announce that David Gold's mother Esther Gold will be attending the shooting. She will be selling Woods Of Ypres merchandise and will be saying a few words on Saturday night." With mere days left this might have just won /r/ post of 2012 |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 14,2012 6:03pm - eyeroller ""] Yep, they were saying it was Ryan, but now they're naming his brother Adam as the shooter. Maybe he's a Freezepop fan too. This really sucks. |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 14,2012 6:07pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] MillenialKingdom said:I'm sick to my stomach over this. Hugging my [insert gender of crotchfruit] a little tighter today. Oh, hi, every fucking person on my facebook feed. |
| ___________________________________ [Dec 14,2012 6:07pm - nekronaut ""] Headbanging_Man said:From the president: "I offered Gov. Malloy my condolences on behalf of the nation." "We've endured too many of these tragedies in the past few years. Each time I learn the news I react not as a president but as anybody else would as a parent. "That was especially true today. "I know there's not a parent in America that doesn't feel the same overwhelming grief that I do. "The majority of those who died today were children, beautiful little kids between the ages of 5 and 10 years old. "They had their entire lives ahead of them, birthdays, graduations, weddings, kids of their own. "Among the fallen were also teachers - men and women who devoted their lives to helping our children fulfill their dreams. Our hearts are broken today for the parents and grandparents, sisters and brothers of these children and the families of the adults we lost. "Our hearts are broken for the parents of the survivors as well, for as blessed as they are to have their children home tonight, they know that their children’s innocence has been torn away from them too early, and there are no words that will ease their pain. "As a country, we have been through this too many times. Whether it’s an elementary school in Newtown, or a shopping mall in Oregon, or a temple in Wisconsin, or a movie theater in Aurora, or a street corner in Chicago - these neighborhoods are our neighborhoods, and these children are our children. And we're going to have to come together and take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this, regardless of the politics. "This evening Michelle and I will do whah every parent in America will do - hug our children a little tighter and tell them that we love them. "There are families in Connecticut that cannot do that tonight and they need all of us tonight. "May god bless the memory of the victims and in the words of scripture heal the broken hearted and bind up their wounds. "Also we are proud to announce that David Gold's mother Esther Gold will be attending the shooting. She will be selling Woods Of Ypres merchandise and will be saying a few words on Saturday night." STANDING OVATION. |
| ________________________________ [Dec 14,2012 6:11pm - KEVORD ""] DestroyYouAlot said: MillenialKingdom said:I'm sick to my stomach over this. Hugging my [insert gender of crotchfruit] a little tighter today. Oh, hi, every fucking person on my facebook feed. I had just said outload "did every asshole not hug their kids yesterday?". Then I read this and LOLed. |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 14,2012 6:21pm - arilliusbm ""] It hits a different nerve when you're a parent, that's for sure. |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 14,2012 6:26pm - i_am_lazy ""] the_reverend said:stop with all the facebook posts about how people have to stop talking about guncontrol. You know you liked my post. |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 14,2012 7:44pm - Richard Hertz ""] A fucking plus on the David Gold's mom post. |
| ________________________________ [Dec 14,2012 8:12pm - xmikex ""] Headbanging_Man said: "Also we are proud to announce that David Gold's mother Esther Gold will be attending the shooting. She will be selling Woods Of Ypres merchandise and will be saying a few words on Saturday night." niiiiiiiiiiiiiice. loled. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 14,2012 11:27pm - Arrow NLI ""] So it gets weirder - mom, the teacher, was dead at home. NOT at the school. So if he already killed her, it means he didn't go to the school to kill his mom. He actually went with the intent on killing a fuckton of little kids. Chills. |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 14,2012 11:38pm - Garth Algar ""] ^ nice news from 5 PM bro |
| ___________________________________________ [Dec 15,2012 12:05am - joeyvsdavidlopan ""] DestroyYouAlot said:My heartfelt sympathies go out to the families of the victims. Also Im not homosexual. Missed that earlier. Well-played, sir. |
| ___________________________________________ [Dec 15,2012 12:07am - joeyvsdavidlopan ""] Also got a hearty laugh from the David Gold's mother bit. How the hell did this and the China stabbings fall together this closely? |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 15,2012 12:21am - Arrow NLI ""] Garth%20Algar said:^ nice news from 5 PM bro You'll have to excuse me for going out to dinner and smoking a few bowls before perusing the news again this evening. I can't help noting I'm the first to post it here, however. |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 15,2012 12:28am - Garth Algar ""] Ha I actually like your posts a lot. Just thought I'd Old News out of boredom. I like your perspective. This response'll probably piss you off. |
| ___________________________________________________________ [Dec 15,2012 1:39am - Big bag of assorted nigger parts ""] I liked the Old News myself. "Oh hey, did you hearYESIHEARDSHUTUP |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 15,2012 6:03am - trioxin245 ""] Im waiting for my gun license to go through, THIS BETTER NOT AFFECT ANYTHING |
| _________________________________________ [Dec 15,2012 10:55am - Richard Hertz ""] Get your guns/ammo/accessories now, they WILL use this as an excuse to pass some useless fucking law(s). |
| _________________________________ [Dec 15,2012 9:24pm - duuurp ""] I guess it is the end of the world... |
| _________________________________________ [Dec 15,2012 9:39pm - rollercoasters ""] this is really awful. |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 16,2012 9:08pm - arilliusbm ""] Obama just held a speech in Newtown. It is obvious that they're going to vote on gun control. He didn't say it out-right, but it was obvious. |
| ______________________________________ [Dec 16,2012 9:25pm - the_reverend ""] IT'S OBVIOUS THAT NO ONE HAS SAY SHIT ABOUT GUN CONTROL EXCEPT ALL THE PEOPLE POSTING THAT THEY ARE GOING TO KILL OUR FIRST AMENDMENTS. Obama's speech was the best one he's given (minus the god). |
| ______________________________________ [Dec 17,2012 1:20am - Garth Algar ""] ^^^^^^ I agree for once. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 17,2012 1:35am - AUTOPSY_666 ""] Bath School 1927, google it. |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 17,2012 8:55am - Alx_Casket ""] joeyvsdavidlopan said:Also got a hearty laugh from the David Gold's mother bit. How the hell did this and the China stabbings fall together this closely? terrists. And predictably, I woke up to this news: http://medford.patch.com/articles/police-w...d-schools-following-newtown-tragedy Similar temporary security blanket situations are likely occurring in schools across the country. Cops will be stationed in schools as long as it takes for America to forget how affected we all felt last Friday. |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 17,2012 8:56am - Richard Hertz ""] the_reverend said:IT'S OBVIOUS THAT NO ONE HAS SAY SHIT ABOUT GUN CONTROL EXCEPT ALL THE PEOPLE POSTING THAT THEY ARE GOING TO KILL OUR FIRST AMENDMENTS. Obama's speech was the best one he's given (minus the god). Uh no- the gun grabbers are out in hoards: http://m.newser.com/story/159398/feinstein...g-assault-weapon-ban-to-senate.html |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 17,2012 8:59am - Richard Hertz ""] And another one. Like Bushmaster is the only company that makes an AR-15: http://m.newser.com/story/159423/bushmaste...-in-newtown-has-lethal-history.html |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 17,2012 9:10am - AndrewBastard ""] http://gawker.com/5968818/i-am-adam-lanzas-mother |
| _______________________________ [Dec 17,2012 10:47am - Yeti ""] AUTOPSY_666 said:Bath School 1927, google it. i don't really get the point of this. does the fact that more children were killed in 1927 lessen this tragedy? |
| ___________________________________________ [Dec 17,2012 12:24pm - largefreakatzero ""] The point behind Bath School is that more kids were killed and it was done with bombs not guns. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 17,2012 12:30pm - arilliusbm ""] The thing is, there are so many people these days and we DONT LIVE IN A UTOPIAN SOCIETY. Psychopaths have always existed, but the chances of horrible events like this are exponentially increased with more humans around. |
| _________________________________________ [Dec 17,2012 12:39pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] arilliusbm said:The thing is, there are so many people these days and we DONT LIVE IN A UTOPIAN SOCIETY. Psychopaths have always existed, but the chances of horrible events like this are exponentially increased with more humans around. Translation: this is a self-correcting problem. (When you keep too many chickens in one pen, they thin their own numbers out.) |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 17,2012 12:45pm - Alx_Casket ""] arilliusbm said:The thing is, there are so many people these days and we DONT LIVE IN A UTOPIAN SOCIETY. Psychopaths have always existed, but the chances of horrible events like this are exponentially increased with more humans around. Wow. You're explaining that this happened not because of mental illness, but because some 20 year old dude thought his mom's kindergarten student:teacher ratio was too large? |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 17,2012 12:54pm - arilliusbm ""] Not at all. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 17,2012 12:55pm - Alx_Casket ""] arilliusbm said:Not at all. Oh ok. Thanks for clarifying. |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 17,2012 1:04pm - shutup fagget ""] Alx_Casket said: arilliusbm said:Not at all. Oh ok. Thanks for clarifying. shutup fagget |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 17,2012 1:09pm - arilliusbm ""] Sandy Hook in the Dark Knight Rises: [img] Far left |
| ______________________________ [Dec 17,2012 1:11pm - Yeti ""] STAR AND FLAG!!!1 |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 17,2012 1:14pm - arilliusbm ""] Yeti said:STAR AND FLAG!!!1 lol. youre owning me today. |
| _______________________________ [Dec 17,2012 2:23pm - Hoser ""] This Country was founded on God. You move away from him, he'll move away from you. Enjoy your eternity in Hell.....go ahead and snicker, you'll see. |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 17,2012 2:26pm - Richard Hertz ""] Wtf? |
| ________________________________ [Dec 17,2012 2:31pm - Burnsy ""] LOL @ Trollser. I mean, ::snicker:: |
| ______________________________ [Dec 17,2012 3:15pm - Yeti ""] Hoser said:This Country was founded on God. You move away from him, he'll move away from you. Enjoy your eternity in Hell.....go ahead and snicker, you'll see. tell me this is real and not just a move to try and get everyone riled up. |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 17,2012 3:25pm - trioxin245 ""] DestroyYouAlot said: arilliusbm said:The thing is, there are so many people these days and we DONT LIVE IN A UTOPIAN SOCIETY. Psychopaths have always existed, but the chances of horrible events like this are exponentially increased with more humans around. Translation: this is a self-correcting problem. (When you keep too many chickens in one pen, they thin their own numbers out.) So what youre saying is that James Holmes should have dressed up as Raz Al Ghul instead of Bane? WE SACKED ROME |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 17,2012 3:36pm - Randy_Marsh ""] da land of da free, yo |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 17,2012 4:28pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] trioxin245 said: DestroyYouAlot said: arilliusbm said:The thing is, there are so many people these days and we DONT LIVE IN A UTOPIAN SOCIETY. Psychopaths have always existed, but the chances of horrible events like this are exponentially increased with more humans around. Translation: this is a self-correcting problem. (When you keep too many chickens in one pen, they thin their own numbers out.) So what youre saying is that James Holmes should have dressed up as Raz Al Ghul instead of Bane? WE SACKED ROME Or at least in an Uma Thurman Poison Ivy costume with head-boobs. |
| __________________________________ [Dec 17,2012 4:28pm - ShadowSD ""] My daughter is in the first grade here in CT, in a school a lot like Sandy Hook, where I sent her on Friday and again today. I keep thinking about this all day every day since this happened, walking through it in my mind over and over, what it would look through the eyes of student, child, and shooter. This topic isn't a subject I ever write about, and what I say here won't make me very popular here, but I don't really give a fuck. If the Founders of this country saw their sacred right to have a musket in your home stretched to semi-automatics that kill dozens of children in regular mass shootings, they would be disgusted. There's no way to extrapolate that intent from them. None. We don't each have a nuclear bomb or a bazooka under the second Amendment, even though they're arms, so why semi-assault rifles? This is one area where being a strict constructionalist really makes sense, as the second amendment was conceived about muskets when you couldn't shoot more than one person every thirty seconds. 40% of gun deaths in American come from guns legally owned by friends and family, like in Sandy Hook, but sadly many people think having high-powered guns in your house and taking your kids to the shooting range is still the solution and not the problem, like this shooter's mother did - and she unwittingly ended up helping him practice his target shooting for twenty first graders. For those who want to make the case that more guns are the answer to preventing future shootings, all I can say is that if one of your relatives grabs those guns you legally own and shoots you in the face, I'm not surprised and you get what you should have expected - but your stupidity also kills my child and dozens more, and that's when your damned right I have a say about it. My child's life is worth more than expanding your gun rights beyond the muskets the second amendment was written around. The true libertarian position at this point is the correct one: people have the freedom to hurt themselves, but NOT infringe to on each others' freedoms: it's time to take all police resources directed towards drugs and free up law enforcement to focus on eliminating guns that can be used for multiple shootings; the idea that to this day a person could walk into my daughter's elementary school and kill children with a legally purchased military-style weapon but would be ingesting illegal drugs in an overdose had he chosen to only harm himself shows exactly what is wrong with our country, and why the twenty dead children will not be the last unless we reverse that mentality. You want to kill yourself, go right the fuck ahead, drugs and no guns mean you go out alone. Instead we have legal military style weapons and illegal heroin, the implication shoot the kids as long as you don't shoot up. Who favors that policy? Anyone? Thing is, though, we will probably see this kind of mass shooting of children happen at least another five or ten times before we actually change - hundreds more children WILL die due to the power of gun enthusiasts like the shooter's mom to resist these changes in law from happening. And with every shooter, the question is raised: how many children's lives are worth the cost of not being able to reload your clay pigeon shooting fast enough? 20? 50? 100? 200? 1000? And eventually the number will get big enough - but the real answer is one child. Your child. Any child. In regards to bomb comparison, it's a pretty good because it makes the point bombs are illegal as these guns should be, and having government surveillance/pre-emptive techniques on bombing attempts used with the same efforts on preventing mass shooting sounds good, too. When it comes to the argument of how CT had relatively tight gun controls to other states, the murder weapon was in fact LEGAL here, clearly showing how low the bar is for reasonable controls in any state; what little gun control we do have in our state is why this shooter was twice denied guns when he tried to purchase them himself, due to his unwillingness to go through a background check and waiting period. For the record, I have never before posted anything on the topic of gun control, nor was I in favor of legalizing all drugs, just pot - but this tragedy has changed my mind and convinced me we've got it all wrong in terms of liberty when it comes to these things. Be free unless it infringes on the freedoms of others. Drugs, on their own, don't when taken by people. Guns capable of mass shootings do. And every dead child in that school shouldn't have had their rights to live freely at all put BEHIND the rights of others to weaponize freely. Liberty and justice for all. |
| _______________________________________________ [Dec 17,2012 4:30pm - shutup hippie fagget ""] ShadowSD said:My daughter is in the first grade here in CT, in a school a lot like Sandy Hook, where I sent her on Friday and again today. I keep thinking about this all day every day since this happened, walking through it in my mind over and over, what it would look through the eyes of student, child, and shooter. This topic isn't a subject I ever write about, and what I say here won't make me very popular here, but I don't really give a fuck. If the Founders of this country saw their sacred right to have a musket in your home stretched to semi-automatics that kill dozens of children in regular mass shootings, they would be disgusted. There's no way to extrapolate that intent from them. None. We don't each have a nuclear bomb or a bazooka under the second Amendment, even though they're arms, so why semi-assault rifles? This is one area where being a strict constructionalist really makes sense, as the second amendment was conceived about muskets when you couldn't shoot more than one person every thirty seconds. 40% of gun deaths in American come from guns legally owned by friends and family, like in Sandy Hook, but sadly many people think having high-powered guns in your house and taking your kids to the shooting range is still the solution and not the problem, like this shooter's mother did - and she unwittingly ended up helping him practice his target shooting for twenty first graders. For those who want to make the case that more guns are the answer to preventing future shootings, all I can say is that if one of your relatives grabs those guns you legally own and shoots you in the face, I'm not surprised and you get what you should have expected - but your stupidity also kills my child and dozens more, and that's when your damned right I have a say about it. My child's life is worth more than expanding your gun rights beyond the muskets the second amendment was written around. The true libertarian position at this point is the correct one: people have the freedom to hurt themselves, but NOT infringe to on each others' freedoms: it's time to take all police resources directed towards drugs and free up law enforcement to focus on eliminating guns that can be used for multiple shootings; the idea that to this day a person could walk into my daughter's elementary school and kill children with a legally purchased military-style weapon but would be ingesting illegal drugs in an overdose had he chosen to only harm himself shows exactly what is wrong with our country, and why the twenty dead children will not be the last unless we reverse that mentality. You want to kill yourself, go right the fuck ahead, drugs and no guns mean you go out alone. Instead we have legal military style weapons and illegal heroin, the implication shoot the kids as long as you don't shoot up. Who favors that policy? Anyone? Thing is, though, we will probably see this kind of mass shooting of children happen at least another five or ten times before we actually change - hundreds more children WILL die due to the power of gun enthusiasts like the shooter's mom to resist these changes in law from happening. And with every shooter, the question is raised: how many children's lives are worth the cost of not being able to reload your clay pigeon shooting fast enough? 20? 50? 100? 200? 1000? And eventually the number will get big enough - but the real answer is one child. Your child. Any child. In regards to bomb comparison, it's a pretty good because it makes the point bombs are illegal as these guns should be, and having government surveillance/pre-emptive techniques on bombing attempts used with the same efforts on preventing mass shooting sounds good, too. When it comes to the argument of how CT had relatively tight gun controls to other states, the murder weapon was in fact LEGAL here, clearly showing how low the bar is for reasonable controls in any state; what little gun control we do have in our state is why this shooter was twice denied guns when he tried to purchase them himself, due to his unwillingness to go through a background check and waiting period. For the record, I have never before posted anything on the topic of gun control, nor was I in favor of legalizing all drugs, just pot - but this tragedy has changed my mind and convinced me we've got it all wrong in terms of liberty when it comes to these things. Be free unless it infringes on the freedoms of others. Drugs, on their own, don't when taken by people. Guns capable of mass shootings do. And every dead child in that school shouldn't have had their rights to live freely at all put BEHIND the rights of others to weaponize freely. Liberty and justice for all. shutup hippie fagget |