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[QUOTE="Snake:136441"]Joe/NotCommon - this is a festival. Granted, no one is required to promote someone else's bands on their flyers and with 20 bands on the bill, it can clutter a flyer up if you don't spend a lot of time making it work. However, it is a festival. A TWO DAY festival. I think what torks people is that if you cared about the scene and wanted the fest that you are playing to do well, you would at least mention you are playing a two day fest. As the promoter/organizer of the show, it begs the question why I would have a band doing my fest that obviously doesn't care enough to put even a minimal reference to it on their flyers. The accusations towards CSDO that I have seen in this thread largely revolve around them caring little for the scene they are part of. The flyer situation for the Northern Aggression fest is now cannon fodder to back up those accusations. Maybe Eric has a good reason for choosing not to even mention the fest on his flyers. I can't think of what it could be, but I am curious to know. The flyer BS aside, reading this thread really makes sick. [insert your favorite metal brotherhood/support the scene rant here] Obviously there is a lot of bad blood between Eric/CSDO and some of the other bands and fans that post here. Even though I am not from the area, reading this sort of thing bothers me because this is what tears the metal scene down. Underground metal is already fragmented into subgenres enough as it is. Our fan base is already puny compared to other forms of music. Wars like this only make things worse. I saw a number of attempts by both sides to cool down this war of words, but yet it carried on. It would be wise for me to keep my mouth shut and stay the fuck out of it because the risk of making enemies is high, but I care about the metal scene and I am friends with many of the bands in the NE area, so I would like to see this shit storm disapate. Maybe what we need is a little levity to bring this back down to earth and tune the nastiness to friendly rivalry instead. When I read the bit about ticket buys to be on a show, I had an idea. I am dead set against the idea of requiring bands to sell tickets to play. I know the idea is in vogue with many promoters and club owners, but I strongly believe if you are doing a show, then you should book bands based on merit and they should be expected to promote to the best of their capabilities. If they are good enough to play, they add value to the show even if they don't draw. While I understand the concept of ticket buys is to force bands to shake their ass for a show, it is my opinion that if a promoter or club doesn't think a band will draw what is needed, then they shouldn't be playing. PERIOD. Anyway, my idea was this. There are three days left before I head up to New Hampshire. Since every band that is part of the Northern Aggression fest should care enough about their scene and the fest to push both days of it, we can have a little friendly competition....if both sides agree. Two day advanced tickets for the fest are available for sale from the SnakeNet Metal Radio web site at this URL... http://www.snakenetmetalradio.com/shop/shop.asp?filter=!&type=8 Since a lot of the shit being talked is between CSDO and Shroud, what we can do is this....from now until I head to New Hampshire, the advanced tickets will be on sale. Both bands can direct their fans to purchase their tickets through the SnakeNet web site. After purchasing their ticket, they will receive a confirm email. Once they receive it, they can forward it to me at snake@snakenet.com and list either CSDO or Shroud as the band they support. The band that sells the most tickets between now and when I take them off sale on Wednesday at noon is the winner. The stakes: If CSDO wins, then Dan from Shroud has to wear and CSDO t-shirt on stage during their set and give them props during their set. If Shroud wins, then Eric has to wear a Shroud shirt on stage and give them props during their set. This competition will take some of the nastiness out of this BS and at the same time help draw out the crowd, thus ending the dispute over which band works harder for the scene. Obviously the flaw is that not everyone can purchase advanced tickets because a credit card is required to do it, but the contest is in fun and for the good of the fest, so no one should care that much if they win or lose. By doing the ticket purchases online, it will also give us a paper trail if there needs to be a recount. So what do you say, boys? You game? Now you can walk the walk instead of just talking the talk. [/QUOTE]
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