Trancendental Hipster Black Metal[views:13314][posts:107]_______________________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 10:25am - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] Lisa needs music theory! Blurst beat plan |
| ____________________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 10:58am - FuckIsMySignature ""] [img] |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 11:26am - Alx_Casket ""] @DYA: where did you even paste that hockomock from? |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 11:32am - mutis nli ""] There's two things about this I find hilarious. First, that fucking manifesto uses all the same exaggerated and unnecessary wordiness and vocabulary that NSBM bands like to use as a way to show off their self-proclaimed intellectualism. I couldn't even get through the first paragraph. Not because it was hard to understand, but because I couldn't help but feel like I was being talked down to by someone who's a dumbass pretending to be smart. Fuck "transcendental". I play Socratic black metal. Second, when the kid says he wrote a manifesto called "transcendental black metal", his band mates start squirming and looking very uncomfortable. I find this amusing. |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 11:38am - DestroyYouAlot ""] Alx_Casket said:@DYA: where did you even paste that hockomock from? http://www.viceland.com/blogs/en/2010/03/0...-fit-to-print-transcendental-metal/ Vice magazine, where I get all my transcendental black metal news from, obv. |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 11:39am - dreadkill ""] the whole manifesto thing is what turns me off to shit like this. just shut the fuck up and play. it's music, not a fucking doctoral thesis. get over yourself already. if the music is good enough, i usually overlook stupid things the band members say or do. i don't know liturgy's music well enough to make the judgement, but the manifesto garbage makes me not even want to give it a chance. |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 11:39am - The_Rooster ""] did anyone count how many times they say "like" in that interview? Jesus. I feel like the harder bands try to sound deep and on some higher plain of thought, it just comes off contrived, unnecessary, and in this case, rehearsed. If your songs are good, and original, then you shouldn't have to so elaborately explain yourself. Let the music speak for itself dudes. I do think "Renihilation" is a solid album though, and have enjoyed them live. Maybe not being a die-hard when it comes to BM helps. All this kind of stuff is pretty new to me. |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 11:39am - DestroyYouAlot ""] I'd like to add that I fully support whatever "Hyperborean black metal" is. LOL |
| _________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 11:40am - burnsy ""] mutis%20nli said:There's two things about this I find hilarious. First, that fucking manifesto uses all the same exaggerated and unnecessary wordiness and vocabulary that NSBM bands like to use as a way to show off their self-proclaimed intellectualism. I couldn't even get through the first paragraph. Not because it was hard to understand, but because I couldn't help but feel like I was being talked down to by someone who's a dumbass pretending to be smart. Fuck "transcendental". I play Socratic black metal. Second, when the kid says he wrote a manifesto called "transcendental black metal", his band mates start squirming and looking very uncomfortable. I find this amusing. Backed. I noticed how uncomfortable the band looked when he said that as well. Did you happen to notice how many fucking times the kid said "like?" Fuckin' amateurs. |
| ___________________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 11:48am - largefreakatzero ""] dreadkill said: it's music, not a fucking doctoral thesis. get over yourself already. . This. Regarding this band, who gives a fuck anyway, they fucking suck regardless of who they are, what they look like, or where they're from. The fact that these kids are complete fucking dorks just complements their mediocre suckdom. |
| _______________________________ [Mar 21,2011 11:50am - ark ""] I watched for 30 seconds, when the standard grim black metal tremelo fare kicked in, he goes on to say "We don't play, like, grim music, we don't wear, like, corpsepaint" ...I was, like, done listening to him. |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 11:55am - DestroyYouAlot ""] [img] |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 12:06pm - nekronotshaver ""] i dont know what all the fuss is about. i love this band and anyone who disagrees is fail |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 12:10pm - NuclearWinter ""] I like my black metal played by economics professors, and riddled with broken English. |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 12:11pm - haz dingus ""] i like the official logged in nekronaut troll |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 12:11pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] only THE REAL Joe Christianni is real |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 12:17pm - dreadkill ""] only dick-flavored water is bro |
| _________________________________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 12:18pm - The Real Real Joe Christianni ""] Only my mom queefing pussy sharts on Liturgy is real. |
| _________________________________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 12:21pm - The Real Real Joe Christianni ""] Transcend the fundamental like boundaries like of the gate that's like in Chinatown and like engage in like a pugilistic contest with me upon like the premises of the like Walpole Mall or you're like a pussy per se. |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 12:30pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] Joe Christianni heard a Brooklyn black metal band was playing and re-upped his offer to fight the crowd at Suffocation. |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 12:51pm - goatcatalyst ""] Haptic buttdarts |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 2:32pm - ggallin666 ""] you can tell that none of them are metalheads, they are just hipsters with no real connection to the music. Just like hipster peruvian flute bands have nothing to do with indigenous culture. Hippy faggots have no place in black metal, black metal is for people filled with hatred. |
| ___________________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 2:33pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] do a time machine about it faggot |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 2:34pm - ggallin666 ""] I dont have a time machine, I guess beating up hipsters at metalshows will have to do instead. |
| ________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 2:37pm - xmikex ""] ggallin666 said:peruvian flute bands ...exactly. |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 2:45pm - ggallin666 ""] Alx_Casket said:(they) are just trying to make it their own. Isn't that what all of us musicians are trying to do anyway? A hippy fag trying to make black metal his own.... You dont see any problems with that? |
| ___________________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 2:47pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] hipsters are so last year.. |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 2:47pm - ggallin666 ""] DestroyYouAlot said:[img] thats pretty much how it is |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 2:52pm - arktouros ""] a white man singing the blues? NIGGA PLEASE. |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 2:55pm - ggallin666 ""] more like wiggers from the rich suburbs acting gangster |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 2:56pm - Randy_Marsh ""] its not black metal. |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 2:57pm - Alx_Casket ""] more like wiggers from the rich suburbs acting gangster And isn't that what the first wave of black metal really boiled down to? I think we could all get like, a little more romantic around here. |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 2:59pm - ggallin666 ""] Alx_Casket said:And isn't that what the first wave of black metal really boiled down to? I think we could all get like, a little more romantic around here. I smell a hipster |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 3:00pm - Alx_Casket ""] You got me. |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 3:01pm - arktouros ""] GG, the Internet really took off after you died, don't take it personally. |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 3:06pm - ggallin666 ""] bennyhillifier |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 3:06pm - Alexecutioner ""] DestroyYouAlot said:THE BURST BEAT The backbone of Transcendental Black metal is the Burst Beat. The burst beat is a hyper blast beat, a blast beat that ebbs, flows, expands and contracts, breaths. It replaces death and atrophy with life and hypertrophy. This transformation is accomplished by two features: acceleration and rupture. The first feature of the burst beat is acceleration. The burst beat accelerates and decelerates. It has an ebb and a flow. This flow both mirrors life and stimulates life. It expands and contracts like the tide, the economy, day and night, inhalation and exhalation, life and death. The second feature of the burst beat is rupture. The burst beat features sudden ruptures or phase transitions. Just like all natural systems, it breaks suddenly from one state to another. Consider the horse as it switches from walk to trot to canter. Consider water as it switches from ice to liquid to gas. The moment of the rupture is the moment of transcendence. What is holy if not the moment that water turns to steam? Or the moment that a walk turns to a run? The burst beat expresses an arc of intensity. It responds to and supplements the melodic flow rather than providing a rhythmic container or backdrop. The rate of change of the tempo, whether positive or negative, corresponds to a level of intensity. Any static tempo is a zero degree. The burst requires total expenditure of power and its very exercise fosters growth and increase of strength. And yet the burst beat never arrives anywhere, eternally “not yet” at its destination, eternally “almost” at the target tempo. Like a nomad, the burst beat knows it will never arrive. By mirroring life, the burst beat stimulates and fosters life. By fostering life, Transcendental Black Metal affirms life. are you fucking kidding me? so basically what you are saying is you're fucking sloppy and you cant even keep tempo? learn how to practice to a metronome and stop writing manifesto's to make it look like you did all of this on purpose. BLAST LIKE FROST OR GTFO |
| ________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 3:12pm - burnsy ""] Alexecutioner said: are you fucking kidding me? so basically what you are saying is you're fucking sloppy and you cant even keep tempo? learn how to practice to a metronome and stop writing manifesto's to make it look like you did all of this on purpose. BLAST LIKE FROST OR GTFO Haha I hear what you're sayin' but I think this concept has potential to sound pretty sick. |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 3:13pm - Alexecutioner ""] it does, but i have a really hard time reading what they wrote without wanting to punch a pretentious hipster faggot in the face :( |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 3:15pm - Alexecutioner ""] the idea in theory of an entire bands tempo ebbing and flowing along with a blast beat sounds awesome. but i still refuse to believe this was on purpose, and that some hipster fuck who couldnt play drums to begin with was struggling so hard to stay on tempo with a blast beat that he gave up, wrote a manifesto about it, and said it was on purpose |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 3:16pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] SRSLY, it basically amounts to, "play fast for one part, then play a little faster in the next part, then play less fast again". There, now I've transcended black metal. |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 3:18pm - arktouros ""] HE TALKS LIKE THEY'RE THE FIRST FUCKING BAND THAT DID THIS. THEY'RE NOT. SEE GRAVELAND AND A BILLION OTHER BM BANDS THAT DON'T USE A CLICK. AHHHHHHHHHHHH |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 3:19pm - Alexecutioner ""] the whole idea of "transcending black metal" sounds completely fucking pretentious WRITE A MANIFESTO ABOUT IT, FAGGOT |
| ________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 3:20pm - burnsy ""] hahaha, agreed. I dunno yeah, I just always thought it would be really cool to speed up and slow down a blast and have the guitars follow it. |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 3:23pm - Alexecutioner ""] burnsy said:hahaha, agreed. I dunno yeah, I just always thought it would be really cool to speed up and slow down a blast and have the guitars follow it. dont get me wrong, i agree with you here, especially in black metal. would sort of give you that feeling of being pushed and pulled by the forces of nature in a very atmospheric fashion |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 3:23pm - Alexecutioner ""] BUT WRITE A MANIFESTO ABOUT IT, FAGGOT |
| _______________________________ [Mar 21,2011 3:28pm - mutis ""] The backbone of Butter Black metal is the Popcorn Beat. The popcorn beat is a tasty blast beat, a blast beat that ebbs, flows, expands and contracts, breaths. BREATHS. Not breathes. It replaces peanuts and nachos with kernels of corniness. This transformation is accomplished by two poppers: jiffy pop and air poppers. The first feature of the popcorn beat is sloppiness. The popcorn beat accelerates and decelerates the more untalented the drummer. It has an ebb and a flow of coconut oil. This flow of coconut oil both mirrors margarine and stimulates butter. It expands and contracts like the tide, the economy, economy and economy, economy and economy, life and economy. The second feature of the burst beat is fancy words that don't mean anything. The burst beat features sudden fancy words such as "phase transitions". Just like all natural margarines, it drips suddenly from one state to another. Consider the horse as its hooves are turned to glue which is also the texture of coconut oil. The popcorn beat expresses an arc of sporadic crappy drumming. It responds to and supplements the delicious flow rather than providing a rhythmic container of un-popped popping corn or backdrop to movie theater food. The rate of change of the temperature, whether hot or cold, corresponds to a level of taste. Any static temperature is a zero degree (which is really cold popcorn). The popcorn requires total expenditure of money because they jack up the price at the theaters and its very expensive, and then something about foster moms. And yet the popcorn beat never arrives anywhere because it sucks, eternally “not yet” at its destination, eternally “almost” at the target tempo and I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about. By mirroring Jolly Time, the popcorn beat stimulates fosters beer. By fostering embarrassing manifestos, Butter Black Metal affirms memes. |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 3:30pm - arktouros ""] A+ |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 3:31pm - arilliusbm ""] Black metal died in 1994. Nothing to see folks, move along. |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 21,2011 3:32pm - Alx_Casket ""] Wicked hyperborean popcorn, bro. |